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Correlation Desks Gone Apeshit: Announcement Gov't To Allow 13 Oil Firms To Restart GOM Drilling Whacks... Silver??!!
And then there was one... correlation desk. Following Reuters news that the US government would allow 13 oil firms to restart deep-water Gulf of Mexico drilling without the new environmental review (under certain conditions), oil drops, drillers spike... and precious metals plunge. Obviously, this is just because silver extraction is so very closely tied to how deep underwater a given jack up can reach. Record correlations may have declined, but only to be replaced with correlations that no longer make absolutely any sense. This is just how ridiculous the power of Wall Street's correlation desks is now that almost nobody is trading.
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Maybe JP Morg wants it to make look like they are correlated?
EXACTLY!!! I just posted this. Please read:
http://tfmetalsreport.blogspot.com/2011/01/thieves-and-criminals.html
Maybe the oil industry has hedged itself outside the oil industury kind of like JP Morgan may have hedged its silver exposure shorts against copper longs? We know that different nations have hedged themelves against each other, why would/should different industires not do the same? This would hedge bad parts of the economy/would support-against/by the good parts of the economy.
No copper kills JP Morgan. It almost killed them before but world war II saved them. Which is why we'll either see 9 dollar copper this year or world war III. Because that's how it works. They don't have gold they use palladium and platinum. They don't have palladium and platinum they use silver. They don't have silver they buy up copper to try to pay. It's just a progression of how broke they get from a real live "money" perspective.
They hedged all that with the Food Stamp distribution. It pays to be an early recipient of freshly minted Benny Bux
All while the dollar stays rangebound. Oh well, the EE is only setting themselves up. Obviously they did no historical checks on what happened in the '60's and 70's when the US and England were manipulating precious metals. Back then, the dumps spurred price increases only 6 months later. With all they are doing now, it should only be a couple weeks until we break this range and move from $1420 to $1440. I think the move above $1440 is the move the EE is scared of. Imagine when sheeple hear gold is +$1500, what will they say? Will they not realize what monie is then?
you don't think they know what happened in the 60s and 70s?
Even if this bites them on the ass this year, they have made billions in the meantime.
Mr. Turd could the EE be using the after hours globex raids to sell short contracts to themselves, protecting themselves, from delivery, by preventing the wrong investors, from buying their shorts, and basically creating a price suppresion mechanism, for the cost of the exchange fees?
... and precious metals plunge. Just because silver extraction is so very closely tight to how deep underwater a given jack up can reach.
LMFAO! Insanity has arrived.
"May you live in interesting times."
Borders up 3% on the day!
Yes, the same Borders book store that can't pay suppliers.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703820904576058261990943614.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
You seem to be under the mistaken belief that fundamentals matter.
You are smart and also hot if you really are a girl. The troll likes smart hot girls but not smart guys pretending to be girls be cause that last incident wirh the troll was embarrassing and we wont talk about it.
I think that avatar is a picture of that Russian spy from last year.
Yes, she was both smart and hot.
And I am a hand puppet who works in the Kermit the Frog show by day and deals Ice by night...
... and the domo kun also does god's dirty work on the side.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9898651@N04/1582978156/
I swear to fucking god I gotta change my avatar. I'm not a chick, it's incompetent, but hot Russian spy, Anna Chapman.
So what you are saying is... you are a hot, female russian spy...
Way cool, do you get conjugal visits?
/s
hell I.m just havinfun watchin yall
How 'bout an incompetent conjugal visit?
Then again that's sorta like box'in yer goofie, isn't it?
A Moscow mademoiselle from deep in the heart of the KGB! Vodka martinis all around!
She is a confirmed Russian spy. But I deny any rumors she is actively being recruited by Spectre.
+1
well remembering you great technical analysis about the upcoming USD/CHF increase when QE2 was lauched;) (as a little reminder we are now at 0.9335) maybe time to Escape from the bollinger band to real fundamentals - or do you want to explain you're bullishness on silver on manipulated price charts???
Maybe the oil industry has hedged itself outside the oil industury kind of like JP Morgan may have hedged its silver exposure shorts against copper longs? We know that different nations have hedged themelves against each other, why would/should different industires not do the same? This would hedge bad parts of the economy/would support-against/by the good parts of the economy.
Maybe we'll hear they discovered the biggest silver deposit ever while drilling for oil. Like that Afghan gold deposit in the news for 10 minutes.
They're drilling holes to China, to get some rare earth.
Betas must be preserved. It's a service they provide their clients.
No risk, VIX now below 17 at 16.9.
Medicated manipulation continues unabated into 2011.
Nothing makes logical sense anymore in this 'market' and that's the way the powers that be want it. Because logic = truth, and truth is the enemy of the powers that be. Truth is what they say it is.
Order out of Chaos.
Yessss! I was figuring that they'd do something like this during this week. Next up is Blythe and her evil flying monkey brigade to follow up with a serious exploit tomorrow or Wednesday. Goodness knows they needed some help here, as they have been getting clobbered lately.
Drive that price down, oh Wicked Witch of the East Coast. I was waiting, and now I'm going to be buying!
I love these fire sales!
A whack down to $25 or so would be nice. I'd Andy Samberg if a move to $20 happened.
Yes I know, neither will happen. A guy can dream however...
My thoughts exactly. Just got sent a new Citi card with 0% APR for 18 months. If Silver drops to $25 I'm loading up. Fuck the surcharges incurred by paying with plastic. I'll take the physical. If this corrupt economic system is still standing this time next year I'll deal with that then.
I think I got the same card in the mail. What is the credit limit on that? Got another one from Citi with General Motors rewards. That's even better
Only $8700,,or just about enough to buy half a green box of eagles. It's not to uncommon to get 12 Mo 0% APR, but 18% is rare (for me). If Silver dips I may contact them to try and get a larger limit. Never got a GM one...
Don't scare me like that.
What are the odds of a decision not going the way of the big corporation?
How can you trade on this near certainty?
Why would anyone want to take on the risk of trading this unless they're on schedule for meetings with Obama, Geithner, Bernanke, Sacks & Co.?
Buy semiconductors. SPRD,MIPS ...
Well that worked out beautifully . Shorted WTI crude futures at $92.50 a barrell earlier .
They have been smacking the metals all day. Any excuse will do.
Not much of a 'whack' to the price of silver, IMHO.
If 30 cents are as much as 'they' can manage anymore, then the end game is truly upon us.
The JP Morgue and The Ben Benank with Blythe will keep trying to whack silver.
This might well be their last smokescreen opportunity to try to get the price down.
And the more they try to supress it, the more it jumps back and the worse it gets for them.
Also there seem to be involved many more banks involved in the shorting escapade and the total silver bet is now growing to nearly 317 billion dollars. Enough to sink all these banks involved.
So I think we might expect some nasty rumors to try to get it down if this one fails.
And now I read that bazillionaire Carlos Slim is going to buy (some/all) of Fresnillo....
Maybe that is the reason a takedown was needed today.
this rumour first appeared summer time. While it seems logical, nothing has happened yet, so dont get too excited yet. The majority shareholder is one of the other richest dudes in Mexico.
\\ BREAKING NEWS //
Top scientists and enviromental experts have found a direct link between silver and global warming. All silver must be ............... sorry, we are experiencing technical difficulties due to net nuetrality.
Do you realize that from the moment a GOM drill operation starts until the first drop of oil flows is 5+ years? It will take an extra year to reserve the equipment, now off the coast of Ghana.
Expect more meaningless announcements because the one thing they are not is stupid. They know oil is everything. If it takes off, wars start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQexNRPvUc&feature=related
This is just noise (or after market rigging of the finest) - that will not change Turks outlook for 2011 at all:
Gold 2000, low in January
Silver 50, high in first half of 2011
Crude 150
Copper 6
XAU 300
GSR 30 (that would implicate 66.67 for silver!)
Another Lehman
Dollar collapse as of end of 2011
http://www.fgmr.com/outlook-for-2011.html
btw also other commodities went south - or at least they took note - algo logic: more crude makes production of all commodities cheaper. But guess this stuffs memory will be just very shortlived ...
I like your analysis but I'm going to have to change to copper to 9 bucks and crude to 240 spike 180 settle. Everything else looks about right to me.
Agree on copper way too low with 6. Copper chart in the weekly looks like gold in the daily inbetween July and December. If correct that means a huge move is coming.
I like the copper call, but am gonna put silver closer to 85. I think it is going to split the gap in achieving its historical ratio.
Interesting. Too bad it's the same old game. But it's fun to try to figure out what happens right up until the hat lands on park place with 4 hotels and kills everybody with tainted brow sweat.
LMFAO. What do you expect from the Matrix Reality of Wall Street? Happy New Year!
Trading today's market evolves from making a good rational decision from applying all of your variables and indicators. Gage sentiment from talking at the local pub and once you made a decision, do the opposite and last but not least, BTFD....all you need to know.
Let's sit in a circle, hold hands, close our eyes, and chant:
BTFD.
will there be weed?
D'flation is hitting the price of ganja hard...there will have plenty of pot.
Bernanke & Blankfiend are probably rolling a fattie right now.
Lloyd and Bernanke are burnin' buds in the Temple of the Fed, and crackin' jokes that Timmah is wound too tight.
"Come on Timmah, hit this 'ish man!" Timmah waved them off and walked to the fridge and popped the top off a bottle of red bull. Barry walked in and grabbed the joint from Bernanke, "I was never here," he winked. "Me neither," said Timmah, his face glued to the PPT video game he played on his Blackberry. "Timmah you are such a square." "Shut up Bernanke!" Bernanke mimicked him, "Shud up, Bernanke." "Damn it you two, you are killin' my high! If you are going to be debbie downers go hang out with Napolitano. Besides, I am going to shoot hoops in five and I got to have my mojo workin'." "Alright Bam, stop by tonight, Barney and I are lighting up the hooka." "lookin' forward to it." "Can I come?" Asked Timmah. "Why? So we can listen to you tell us boring stories about you sedating Chinese hookers?" "I hate those stories." said Lloyd as he puffed.
I think this could turn into a hit sit-com.
We could call it, "That 10's Show"
Ben & Lloyd getting stoned, watching 'Manswers' on Spike (something Robo watches religiously, no doubt) while munching on Cool Ranch Doritos, and prank calling Timmay Geithner.
Tosh.0!
A fattie with red hairs... while they sell us the green shoots
You bring weed and I will BTFD. Chips anyone? Drinks?
They think they are going to swamp the real physical market with shell company paper sales from foreign countries.
Does this mean you are out? Or is it white knuckle time?
Just as long as there is no double dip action, I'll bring the drinks..
Nice, glad to have you at the party.
Incense, cocoa butter and popcorn
No, there won't. There will be printouts of the current stock market performance, relative to the economy as a whole. But this is strong stuff, man, you can't look at them for too long. And watch out for the pigs, man, they bust people carrying strong hallucinogenics.
Pigmen dig up and bring psychedelic truffles.
Allowing 13 drillers in the gulf and oil and silver went down? Wow.
Lord only knows what would happen if they turn the water back on in Central CA.
Oil is not going down because of the drillers. It is going down because Larry Kudlow pants'd Jan Hatzius on the very matter of the economy, oil, and oil futures and how they are manipulated by crushing dollar...with counterfeit dollars printed by the Fed and passed by the criminal syndicate known as Wall Street.
Get up to speed, man.
Larry Kudlow has at least retained 1 ounce of his soul and dignity by still talking about "King Dollar?"
And The Government...uhm, I mean GE/CNBsC hasn't terminated him yet?
Someone needs to warn Larry that any notion of "King Dollar" can be thrown into the dumpster so long as Bernanke & Crew are left to their devices.
When does Comcast take control of management of NBC Universal?
Not soon enough?
drill baby drill....;)
Hey Banzai - can we get a photoshopped Girls Gone Wild cover instead called "Correlation Desks Gone Wild!"
Too many gloomers are long gold and oil.
Just needed a catalyst to whack both.
No wonder the XRT refuses to sell off.
Average LA drivers are now luxuriating in 3.40 gas. Just 60 more cents and you are history.
According to Robo, $5 is strongly bullish. $2 petrol is strongly bullish too. As is a clear blue sky. And dementia. Dementia is strongly pancakes.
Robo is going to be the fade for 2011.
Many have insinuated something along these lines, but I'm on record that you heard it expressly here first.
The Fade Robo trade is on.
With or sans jiggling jugs.
(No, I didn't junk Robo, but will begin soon if he doesn't provide us with some jug love - you've been slacking lately, Robo)
Bonus: QE really does end in June, also, when Americans are paying $4.20 a gallon, and the stock market has already been tanking for months - Bernanke gets precious little love, and much anger is directed at ObaMao.
Bavo Truth! Agreed. This stuff matters...and this stuff is coming out. Average Joe is figuring it out as the credibility of this market quickly approaches zero.
Criminal Synicate Wall Street Bankers = Bagholders!
This is going to be a good year, with our without Robo...who I agree will be a fading trade. I think both L. Kudlow and E. Burnett are actually out in front of him now...
here in scandinavia we have 1,5e/litre...must be a green shoot then..
gulf of mexico is ruined already...so no harm from future leaks..drill baby..
did sarah palin just got elected...
Palin, Obama, what's the difference? Oh, I know - rhetoric.
Only 9 trading days left until January 14.
Gold needs to rise $12.32/day, every trading day.
Otherwise, General Jim is history.
.....................
As far as RobotTrader is concerned, I bought enough UGA at $32 - $34 to lock in sub $3.00/gal. gas for the next 3 years.
It's going to be a great summer for Robot....
LOL.....
You know, I'd subscribe to your porn newsletter.
Be cautious about woman with abs.
and mustaches...
and hair on their but...
JUST BE CAUTIOUS WITH WOMAN!!!!
Nice work Big Shot. We're all impressed with your "trading" skills. But I'm sure Mr. Sinclair doesn't need your advice on gold. You will miss the Silver Train by the looks of it too. Fade out Robo...
Those look 16, maybe younger.
I'm quite sure each of them is 18. Otherwise it would be inappropriate; although in truth 16-17 is often not prosecuted.
16 is legal here in the UK.
That's the only yardstick? I think their fathers may disagree
Too bad their fathers' are unarmed.
That's funny.
16 was being generous I think the girl on the right is 14.
fake tits on second from left? (I do know of underage girls getting tit jobs, but I think it's generally safe to assume they're fair game... If that isn't parental consent, I have no idea what is). Needless to say, I doubt you would have to walk in on some asshole cleaning his guns conveniently at the same time you came over to pick her up for the date.
LMFAO
Nah...definitely college-age.
Geesh, man. At least have the decency to post pics of teens older than sixteen, or else your summer will be spent in the county hoosgow.
well said. Takes a big man to return to his high school looking for dates. Just what this site needs, a regular "contributor" drooling over bikini girls that other regular visitors are complaining look 14-16. Remove the picture.
I'm pretty sure you guys have just been too far removed from college...
Usually see these kinds of pictures in the Money McBag rants.
Robo, you made the 'trade the tape' cartoon. Why you don't apply this approach on silver and gold?
It is a KNOW Jew distraction technique to post scantily clad teenage girls on web sites to detract from intelligent conversation.
Do you use MEGAPHONE too Herr RoboTraitor?
Your correlations are about as f**cking ignorant as those of the general markets.
I do believe that RoboTraitor is indeed Larry Kudlow. TPTB are too cheap to pay 2 separate people to do the same job.
Oil used to be liquid black gold.
Now oil is liquid black SILVER BITCHEZ!!!
We've seen these drops before, always followed by a rise.
Also, Europe is toast. It's pretty clear right now so we'll be buying as much as we can.
Buying toast?
Ive been calling a top in silver since I sold all my silver at 27. Get out now! The sky is falling! The troll wants to buy back in at 24. Sell! Sell! Before its too late!
GoM? Nah, silver got spanked because Wikileaks says that Israel is getting ready to go full retard.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110102/pl_afp/usdiplomacywikileaksisraelmi...
No? Ok, how about Lindsey Lohan's release from Betty Ford today? Poor girl can't even get a job acting like a porn-star.
LiLo finds Gandhi, gets released and all I get's the boobs on CNBS. Will nobody ever please tell me where and when her next release date will be? I'd very much like to be there to greet her with a 1.75 of Smirnoff.
"Hello, how are you, won't you tell me your name...."
When is Isreal not planning a war?
Actually oil and silver dropped today because Lenovo just announced the x120e notebook powered by the AMD Fusion processor.
Israel only designs processors for Intel so not relevant.
Silver got slapped because China bailed out SPAIN.
And, China is fixing to hit the wall.(Silver is THE metal of the next 10yrs),if the economies of the world got back online tommorrow, the start time for new mines, and restarts, is 2-3 yrs.
Plus we are NEGATIVE supply now, and will be for a while.
There is no reason it should go back to $20's.
$40-$50,00 by June easy.
Worth watching from min. 25.20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7h4VjZhe_w
Yawn, we are still above 30. Wake me up if we ever hit 28 so I can buy some more.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BrotherJohnF?feature=mhum
+1 on that.
preparation for all out middle east war? When Iran gets attacked persian gulf supply gets whacked.
war with Iran silver gold off to the races.
Did the tax change from 6% to 19% made a dent?
Most of the world markets seem to be synchronized. This is what happens when machines do the majority of the trading across every market. HFT rules, bitches!
Went to the coin shop today and plunked down my fiat for another ten Silver Maples. Next pay, I'll be back to do the same. Or perhaps I'll acquire some smaller gold pieces, budget allowing. At this point, I'm just buying whenever I can.
Sold all mine Dec 7 2010. Hundreds of Morgan MS65s, Silver Eags, $20 Gold Libs. All of it! Coins are horrible investments
Surely you jest! If not, you will regret (like in really, really regret) this in a very short time.
The last person that sounded like you was my real estate broker in summer 2005 when I sold my 2 homes in LA before moving to FL.
Morgan MS 65s traded in the $60-75 range across the mid 1990s and now trade in the mid $120-130s. Some return.
You never owned any coins.
Think how much money you could have made if you would have bought simple bullion, bars or junk. So instead of realizing you made a bad buy, you blame the metal itself. You sir, are a douche.
You don't read well do you?
I said coins were a horrible investment.
I didn't mention bullion or miners or paper.
You my dear, are a strumpet and a failure to the female species.
Most people would view coins as insurance and paper as speculation. Hope the whole place doesn't burn down with your lapsed coverage.
I must apologize for also taking into account the context of EVERY SINGLE other post you have left since you picked up and carried the PM Troll Banner when Johnny Bravo was shot in the head.
You did say that you sold Eagles, which last time I looked were considered bullion. Then again, since you more than likely made the whole thing up, we will forgive you your ignorance.
Selling the numismatic coins for their premium was smart. Selling the Eagles, not so much. If you buy back into bullion with your proceeds you will have proven yourself to be a smart trader.
Remember- starting in 2012 you'll be 1099ed on all SALES to even the smallest dealer which aggregate over $600. He'll be counting because he's must 1099 his BUYS
Hopefully this provision will be repealed. It's so onerous even the Dems will back off on it.
I have no doubt it will be done away with.
IF its not, then there will be absolutlely no doubt the PTB are destroying the country.
This 1099 shit affects EVERYONE.............taht has any kind of business.
I'm Canadian. They don't even ask my name when I buy here, as long as it's under $10k, (at which point they assume you must be a criminal.).
Gee, will the border patrol let me bring massive quanities into O'Canada in 2012 and will the dealers there give me top bids?
So think about that $10k limit. A few years ago that would purchase 10 gold coins. A few years from now it will only be 2 or 3 coins. Same with declarations except that they scan you down and I'd be willing to bet that they will start documenting *anything* unusual like coins.
Here at the Austrian mint, it's anonymous to buy under 15k euros. There's always Russians trading for fiat. A few months back a Russian in a suit threw down stacks of 500 euro notes on the counter to buy 1-kilo bars of AU and when asked for his ID, the body guard coughed up his for the sale. The smart money follows the Russian mob.
Dr, they do not here either.
Unless your a regular customer,and buy/sell a lot.
Its nobodys bidness.
Just make sure you do not do it that way more than 5 times a year.
Why 5?
That is why you need to smuggle them all out of the country on a yacht. I think that as awesome as Brazil would be with a boat that the Pacific island option makes up for it. Crossing the tip doesn't sound good to me. Basically what I am saying is take your coins somewhere else and buy prostitutes. You will feel super boss style flicking a silver coin at them.
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TD monthly exhaustion count-sale setup has silver at +9 December
You're all wrong... from Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-03/dollar-asian-stocks-gain-on-optimism-for-u-s-growth-copper-hits-record.html
Bank of America Corp. rallied 6.5 percent after resolving disputes with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae by agreeing to pay more than $2.6 billion to settle claims it sold loans based on faulty information.
"faulty information"... Say What??
Complicity....
For every such settlement, the finely worded press releases are crafted and agreed to a priori by all parties to the action....
The GSE's and their regulators all pitched in with that specific language.
No harm, no more foul.
(sigh)
Let me be the first to call, a second time this New Year....
BULLSHIT!
"Faulty information" is the new euphemism for LIES, DECEIPT, FRAUD and THIEVERY!
If I write a hot check it's okay; I was the victim of "faulty information".