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A Couple Of Pointers For TheStreet.com On Blogging Etiquette
Our religulous readers at theStreet.com decided to take a stab at Zero Hedge over the weekend due to our discovery, first among all media, that the Hindenburg Omen had struck this past Thursday. We take this opportunity to teach theStreet a few of the key rules of blogging etiquette.
1. A website run by Jim Cramer describes Zero Hedge narrative as if "writing in a vein that seems made for professional boxing or WWE
pay-per-view event hype, describes the Hindenburg Omen as "Easily the
most feared technical pattern in all of chartism (for the bullishly
inclined). Those who know what it is, tend to have an atavistic reaction
to its mere mention." Seriously? Jim Cramer's website accusing someone of hype? That's some serious "crossing the streams" voodoo. We have nothing to say here - South Park's Eric Cartman did the best job of capturing the essence of thestreet.com's CEO style previously.
2. Oddly enough, The Street had no such qualms about the description of the Hindenburg Omen by David Buik at BGC Partners. As the Telegraph highlighted, Buik "drew attention to the
Hindenburg Omen, which he described somewhat theatrically as "easily
the most feared technical pattern in all of chartism"." Hmm - this seems oddly identical to our own language, which theStreet decided to ridicule. While we may or may not seek copyright arbitration vis-a-vis the nice folks at BGC, it seems somewhat obtuse of theStreet's staff to take offense by our characterization of the H.O., but not an idential one presented by one "of the world's leading interdealer brokers." Why the bias?
3. It is accepted etiquette to link up to the source, especially when that source breaks the news. Benzinga and most other sources did so. Does theStreet.com think traditional web rules do not apply to it? Or perhaps, theStreet believes that no rules apply to it? To wit, and as a case study of hyperlinking for the sole benefit of theStreet, we present this example of how that whole process works, from a previous Zero Hedge post. Note the hyperlink to thestreet's form 12B-25:
Jim Cramer's TheStreet Is Being Investigated By The SEC
Seek and ye shall find. Never has this been more true than combing
through theStreet's (much delayed if at all available) financials. As
investors may have been digging through the company's SEC reports to
find out just what the financial website's unadjusted EBITDA is (hint:
much, much less than its "adjusted" cousin), one stumbles upon this gem just filed in today's Form 12B-25:As
a result of the need for the Company and its independent registered
public accounting firm to focus attention on matters related to the
Company's previously-announced review of the accounting in its former
Promotions.com subsidiary, which subsidiary the Company sold in December
2009 -- including matters related to the preparation and filing by the
Company in February 2010 of a Form 10-K/A for the year ended December
31, 2008, a Form 10-Q/A for the quarter ended March 31, 2009 and Forms
10-Q for the quarters ended June 30, 2009 and September 30, 2009,
respectively, and matters related to an investigation commenced by Securities and Exchange Commission in March 2010 --
the Company requires additional time to prepare its financial
statements, assess its internal controls and file its Form 10-K for the
year ended December 31, 2009 ("2009 Form 10-K").
4. Last, and probably least, if theStreet has an issue with our writing style, perhaps they can tell Google's adsense to no longer advertise Jim Cramer's theStreet premium service contextually and based on cookies, on Zero Hedge (a process we have no control over). We assume had theStreet's revenue numbers (and thus traffic) been sufficiently attractive, they would not need to reach out and attempt to steal the eyeballs of Zero Hedge's nearly 200k a day readers.
And that concludes our web etiquette lesson for today.
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Maybe Rick Santelli can teach Jimmy a few things about proper etiquette and crediting ZH when it is the primary information source....
Etiquette, Bitchez!
We have better etiquette than to click on Cramer's stupid banner ad..I mean 200,000 x $0.25/click= $50k/day?
Imagine paying that kind of money for nothing but a click and scorn..
it seems somewhat obtuse of theStreet's staff to take offense by our characterization of the H.O., but not an idential one presented by one "
not to be a grammar nazi, feel free to delete this comment or i'll delete it when fixed...
doing my part, glad to help :)
not to be a grammar nazi, but your first and third sentences are missing periods and your second and third sentences should be partitioned with periods or semicolons; not commas. also, i believe pointing out a spelling error would make you a spelling nazi. :-p
seriously, there are spelling errors in practically every zh article posted, so i've conditioned myself to look past them. my humble advice to you is to do the same.
Cramer, Hindenberg, Fuld, Blankfein, Bernanke, Greenspan, Rubin
Why do all these overinflated zepplins originate from Germany?
And why do they always advertise safe passage, when they are, in reality, just hidden super-destructive timebombs?
Oh, the humanity!!
Burnt flesh, burnt portfolios, burnt republics. Who cares? They were pre-paid fares anyway.
thanks for your avatar. hell of a story.
On purpose. Security measure.
Coded instrucions for Prject Mahyem.
greased up deaf guy
Why does your post contain no capital letters?
DavidC
it's my mini-revolt against the grammatical rules :). i don't post often, but they're all that way. jd did the same thing in his post and it would have been rather hypocritical of me to point that out as well ;).
"check yourself before you check another" is the point i was trying to make. that's all.
$0.25/click is prob v aggressive...my guess would be, at best, $5 CPM ($5/thousand clicks) or $1000/day if each visitor clicked once...still not bad!
CPM is Cost Per iMpression, or on average, how much is earned for each thousand page loads displaying an ad. CPC is cost per click. Financial service ads are among the higher paying, as measured by either CPC and CPM. I think you meant to say, $5 per thousand impressions, not clicks.
With that being said, I have always been surprised by the Cramer Ads showing on this site. I would think that they would not convert to sales well among the ZH audience. I would guess the ads are contextual, and the person running their campaigns is not taking the time to refine and target the ads.
Just what you would expect from a mastermind of the business world.
I TAKE A DUMP IN THEIR MILKSHAKE.
MSM giving zerohedge exposure?...My wikileaks/Julian Assange spider senses are tingling all over.
LOL
Zh has the game. No wonder that real Women like Marla play. You check out and have made every clearance. Love you and thank you.
Where is Marla?
When will they change the name from "Mad Money" to "No Money"?
You tell 'em Tyler! Of course, they're so damned dumb that you'll probably have to tell them again
and
speak
very
slooooowly.
Cheers!
I don't normally do this social shit: but HE-HE and + 10,0000!
Very fucking funny.
HAHA! +1000
Because we need to pass through the 'Bad Money' phase first.
You mean change from "Mad Money" to "HAD Money."
+1000
YES!
No Money only applies to their followers.
Hmmmmm. You guys are so far ahead of those guys.... The Street is like the guys in Twister with all the black vehicles.....and we know what happened to them.
lol you mean jonas?
+1
Oh, snap!
This is all just a terribly deflated case of little prick-itis on the part of "thestreet.com". After all Tyler, in fairness to our "little" friends over at the street, you have been taking daily, and sometimes hourly (admittedly well deserved) shots at Jim Cramer. It seems only right for them to try a few seconds in the ring with Tyler and Company.
Now where's that damn white towel when you really need it?
Jim Cramer was probably Mike Damone in a prior life. Evolved from ripping off concert ticket buyers to ripping off investors. Common thread - both "little pricks".
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/fasttimeswiseguy1.jpg
"terribly deflated case of little prick-itis"
That's cold.
How'd anybody want what he has? Little shit's a grand example of the ego that must be smashed.
Tyler Durden, you're no Lenny Dykstra.
"IN THE $ CALLS-CHECK MY RECORD" oh yeaaah !
200K readers ... Wow and Congrats ... Look at all the lonely people where do they all come from?
They have come to spank dirty Eleanor. She has been a bad girl.
Did anyone expect better? Once a scumbag, always a scumbag.
friend of client no. 9, don'tcha know
Thank you for the Eric Cartman post. I have traded on Cartman's suggestions on the Nikkei since I saw it and am up 23% over advice I received on Mad Money.
Sweet! I never expected mah Mad Friends to get on ZeroHedge!
I expect thestreet.com will attack you next because of all the jew jokes...
From the NY Times:
Jim Cramer’s Guide to Market Manipulation
March 20, 2007, 9:22 am
I'm just sayin', kettle, black, pot.
Perhaps I should link up the classic Street.com "How I moved the markets when I was a hedge fund manager" video too.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRa0B34jMOQ
(has the SEC ever investigated Cramer's activities?... stupid me for asking such a dumb question of course they have and he was given a gold star for integrity)
No, not a dumb question. Seeing that Cramer is 'doing thy bidding' of his master, not only will he get a gold star, but any investigation that was quashed by the SEC will never see the light of day, due to SEC's exemption from the FOI act.
Go have fun Cramer, knock yourself out.
Blogging is just a way for them to pimp bubblevision viewership.
writing in a vein that seems made for professional boxing or WWE pay-per-view event hype...
I would have / do take that as a compliment. The blogsphere is jungle. We say eat shit fuck piss on crammer all the time. It's no place for content stealing weenies nor thin skinned hotheads who bristle at poorly (ghost) written hack jobs by denigrating man-whores for the ptb. Pro wrestling is real, stocks are for asshats.
After everything is said and done, and depending on the penitentiary he ends up in, he will be re-christened as Jimmy "the Creampie" Cramer.
Hey Tyler, Marla,
Can we preemptively block any comment from anyone who uses 'Booyaah' or any similar user name?
Mah Authoritah!
Now that you're done teaching Cramer blogging etiquette, perhaps someone could teach him some corn holing etiquette for his Mad Money features....
Apply the Vaz dude...!
Best regards,
Econolicious
I have been trying to tell people about this site - to come and be educated. Perhaps this may pursuade some more people to come by and experience the two by four of reality.
200,000 readers a day? Wow. But, if Jim Cramer's website is advertised here, and I click on it... doesn't that mean ZH gets some money and it costs Cramer??
Yes to "wow 200k readers a day" and yes to "wow costs Cramer".
So click away my friend. This (and every) round is on Cramer. Booyaah.
exactly the best gift we could give to Doug Kass's buddy, whom he affectionately refers to as Jim "El Capitan" Cramer, is to clik away. (not in a clik fraud sort of a way but in an effort to seek out the wisdom of El Capitan)
+1000000000
Cramer has long since become a sad caricature of himself, and it will only get worse as time goes on.
Not having cable, I have never actually seen his show. (Unless the self-parody he did in Ironman I was close to the reality.)
Damn, there's 200000 people here?
Yeah, so stop constantly making an ass of yourself. It's embarrassing.
Well done, saulysw.
Don't worry, he'll be out of here in less than a year:
tmosley: You wanna man up about it, JB? I'll tell you what, one year from today (August 12th, 2011) you can give me one American gold eagle for today's price from APMEX, including delivery, which comes to $1297.84. You can cover this bet at any time you wish, but I will deliver payment (say via paypal, or a similar service), which will be credited to your account upon my receipt of the gold. As an alternative, if you don't feel comfortable doing that, we could simply make it a theoretical bet, and the loser must close his Zerohedge account and never post again. Now THAT would be worth it for me.
JB: I'll take the bet on the zerohedge account. You'll just come back under a different name though, I'm sure...
But yeah, I'll take THAT bet. I'm not sending anybody on the internet my personal information.
If somebody comes to my house, they'll get shot in the face, but I'd rather not have things come to that. I don't think that you would, I just don't trust strangers.
Are you surprised? Even Timmay, Bennie, Blankie, and Obammie have a ZH page open on their desktops!
You mean GS's TV puppet actually has an issue with you Tyler?
I'm shocked!
All I'm saying is...
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/breaking-news/economy/jim-cramer-and-thestre...
Lest we forget;
Forget the investors?...ummm, whaaa?...no ideeea...NO IDEEEAHHH!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWksEJQEYVU
Still looking for the interview he did on a street corner in NY where he said he talked to his people in the banking industry...which I thought an odd way of putting it at the time when stock 401K's were crashing.
Fawtunately ah keep mah feathas numbahed fa jest sech an emugency...LOL.
Thanks for the clip. What a fucktard that guy is.
He recommends Washington Mutual at the end of that clip. I will have to look into that stock...
I guess people know where to get some maturity on the Internet and that is bothersome to TSC.
Hey Tyler, I first read about reaching the big H.O. over at Rich Cash's site,Jubilee Prosperity, on Wednesday evening August 11, does that count for an early tip-off?
Awesome site as well
In all honesty, Cramer has a cool shtick. I wish he wasnt on the dark side.
I wonder, in some alternate universe, is there a Cramer Ranting against the Fed and calling Steve Leisman a liar...
Bill Bonner and TD have cool shticks...Cramer reminds me of a midway carnival barker trying to tempt the local yokels into the hoochie-koochie tent. Suitable for instant gratification only and seperated from their dollars instantly.
I'd like to punch him in the nose. He reminds me of the guy that sold me that piece of shit car. I knew it was crap but bought it anyway.
Fool me once......
TD: Your writing style is very descriptive and to-the-point. The folks at thestreet might just be jealous. Someone press the crying baby sound effect button for them.
Jim, should I move my money out of Bear Stearns?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkbdjetlY8&feature=related
LMAO! Thank you!
No NO NO!YOU SILLY GOOSE!
hahahaha......some people actually make a good living off the bad memories of ignorant followers. At least for a while. Stupidity + Conviction = Snake Oil .
Only 200,000 addicts?
I think at some point in the near future one will look back at these days and fondly remember when ZH was a small fringe site for lunatics and conspiracy theorists.
Add a few dozen more when the SEC douches get sent here for remedial net surfing class.
Step 1...we admitted we were powerless over tranny porn..
The criticisms of twelve-step groups are as varied as the pathologies they address. People have attended twelve-step meetings, only to find success eluded them. Their varied success rate and the belief in a Higher Power suggested in them, are common criticisms of their universal applicability and efficacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program
God's work? Can't be.
I was preparing to point out all the pitfalls one encounters when trying to apply logical thought to a spiritual process with which one has had little personal involvement and realized I would commit the same errors.
Let me just say your assessment is shallow and the product of someone whose best thinking got them where they are today.
Enjoy your happy, wholesome life!!!
I will let you in on a secret. The basis of any success...ANY success...Is discipline!
Get it and you will have it!
As opposed to a very large fringe site for lunatics.
With apologies to Rusty....
Dang ole clickety click...click click click ;-)
I have watched Cramer several times but never a complete show. There was nothing interesting enough to hold my attention. I check out Zero at least twice a day and always read at least one or two of the articles, which are seldom a waste of my time. Zero being in the radar may not be good, but does lend credability to Tyler and crew. I do hope we truly understand and appreciate the time, effort, and contribution to our being an educated readership----- by all those who make the effort to improve our understand and knowledge.
cramer....Cramer....where have i heard that name?
Oh, that's right THIS guy
..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be74I42NAQQ
I direct you to 1:15 of the clip.
If that isnt a testament to a lack of integrity, then nothing is. He's a CNBC/GE sock puppet for sure.
Actually, EWtrends was the first to blog about the HO
http://ewtrendsandcharts.blogspot.com/
To compare the gibberish on TheStreet to Zero Hedge is a laugh. Zero Hedge should be the go-to site for anyone who wants to know reality, not some cheerleading garbage spin.
I don't want an audit of the Fed. I want an audit of Jim Cramer's "charitable trust".
Those bernanke-blankfein-timmy-PPT PC desktops where missing a browser window at "thestreet content submital webpage" each.
The Euro Crisis and the Coming Euro Collapse Act II- Time to Check How Austerity Is Going
Ummm...
Etiquette? ZH don't need no stinking etiquette.
Though as for myself I always do type with my pinky fingers extended outwards...
LOL
Never change Tyler, never change. cramer. What a fraud. Recommends BP at 33 or so, sells at 29+. Well, you all know the rest.
How does that man get paid and stay out of court. Amazing.
200k readers. Just the beginning all, just the beginning.
thanks TD, just thanks.
This is shocking news --- people read theStreet.com ?!
i can't believe little man still has a show. The American people really are stupid. I wonder where Cramer will be on the other side of this. Foreign Country, Charged with financial crimes ( I wish we were in China), or most wanted by the people buying stocks which are going nowhere nominally and have gone nowhere for 10 years.
The new CNBC lineup should be
Slow money (How to buy gold)
6:00-6:30 Jim Sinclair
6:30-7:00 FOFOA
7:00-7:30 Peter Schiff
7:30-8:00 Zero Hedge
Followed by American Greed how the American people got taken on the biggest wealth transfer from 1980-2010 and how America is now a bunch of oligarchs buying roads and bridges and tolling the sheeple each time you use them.
Exactly how should Tyler and Marla appear?
a) papers bags over head
b) sock puppets
c) Brad Pitt & Helena Bonham Carter stills with moving mouth inlays
Definitely C...
oh, most definitely "c"
and kudos to all of you "tylers" for the recognition, well deserved.
this is a unique space, for many reasons, thanks!
Mad Money....
Says it all doesn't it? I'd rather read/listen to a sane money show anyday.
Like here, at ZH. But there is an interesting element of the dialectic here, two extremes, thesis, anti-thesis......
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Creamer and the Rev....erend Shark..........another smooth surgery, TD.........Creamer has a 3rd asshole already!........the first from birth, and then obviously his mouth........imagine if Creamer turns state witness against the SEC or was declared a defacto terrorist, enemy combatant.......which it obviously is.........Guantanamo.......Guantanamo........
I wonder what Cramer would cough if at Guantanamo?
I think Lennon Hendrix made a point about retroactive abortion......maybe there is a point for torture too........after all, life is still cheap at GS.
ps.......wondered about the obvious oxymoron; Street.Shit.com adds on the ZH.........thank you for clarifying that question.
Gnarls Barkley sums it up;
My heros had
the heart to
lose their lives
out on a limb.
And all I
remember, is
thinking, I want
to be like them.........
You just know too much.....does that make you crazy? Does that make you crazy? Probably.
After his Bear Stearns advice...Seppuku!!!
Listening to a radio broadcast this evening (John Bachelor) and they were yacking about the Hindenberg Omen.
if you hate cramer so much why are his ads on your site
you're not very bright, are you ? as Tyler says in the article, he has no control over them being there. its a function of adsense. doh.
It is actually quite e-z to block thestreet.com if you don't want to add their ad cents via your adsense.
Goto adsense setup, then competitive ad filter.
https://www.google.com/adsense/filter-online
I just woke up from a coma. How is my Bear Stearns stock doing?
http://www.cxoadvisory.com/technical-trading/hindenburg-omens/
Back-tested the Hindenberg is nothing special.
Tyler,
https://www.google.com/adsense/filter-online
https://www.google.com/adsense/urlfilter#finding
At least he didn't pimp zerohedge. If he did it like he does with stocks it could have mean the end of ZH.
What if he said:
I love ZH, I check it everyday and that's where I get my inspiration!
Next day:
Visitors: 0
MMMMMM How dare ye! I love the taste of a nice cup of Fuck You in the morning!
It's no different than starting a war to divert the public's attention. TheStreet.com doesn't have anything worthwhile to say and doesn't have the facts on its side so it resorts to name calling. What a worthless organization. They are poison.
Buy CIT it's a NO BRAINER!!!!!
Bankruptcy doesn't matter!!! (Hits "buy buy buy" button)
I think Jon Stewart has said everything there is to say about Cramer. Actually, not sure I have ever heard him call him a twat.
Hindenburg Omen on Drudge. Left column, near bottom.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
"writing in a vein that seems made for professional boxing or WWE pay-per-view event hype"
Is this guy f***ing serious or what? That comment from anyone else would be pushing it, but when it comes from a blustering blabbering crazy fool like Cramer...speechless, my jaw is squarely on the floor. I can listen to this man for like 2 minutes before i start self-harming.
Do you think that Jim Cramer's comments are why some call him the CNBC Court Jester? Just wondering.
ZH, doing it's part to fight brain rot.
If there's ever a take-down, sign me up for the riot.. I mean sit in.
What I enjoy the most is reading Cramer's false reviews of his own Amazon books. As for me I am looking forward to the frown on Altucher's face as we slash through 1000 on the S&P. Anyway back to clicking on Cramer's face since it is such a pleasure to remove money from Cramer's pockets and place them in the Zero Hedge coffers.
That was the written equivalent of Robin Ventura (Jim Cramer) charging Nolan Ryan (Tyler) on the mound and getting an absolute ass kicking.
Next time Tyler, just slap Jim Cramer. Have someone film it of course and post on Youtube for the worlds enjoyment. It will save you a lot of time from writing articles on blogging etiquette which he doesn't understand anyway and can't be taught.
Glen Beck is now talking about the Hindenburg omen on his T.V. show right now. Tyler, you may have too school him also. No mention of ZH.
I think an interesting blog concept would be a site that tracked every call Jim Cramer made, and only posted charts and net change (percentages and actual points) as time wore on.
You can't sue someone for libel if they're just presenting the facts. I haven't googled to see if there is such a thing already - but it would make a good study in promotional media and the marketplace.
Resources like the one you mentioned here will be very useful for me! I like to share it with all my friends and hope they will definitely like it.
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