You're now on the archive server. Commenting has been disabled.

Cramer Defends His Citi Call, Says He "Has No Idea Really How Citi Is Doing"

Tyler Durden's picture




Did You Make Money? Then It Was a Good Deal

By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
12/18/2009 9:30 AM EST
http://www.thestreet.com/p/rmoney/jimcramerblog/10649290.html

The Citigroup (C) deal was a good deal. It just wasn't good for the bank.

I was adamant the other day -- some would say rabid -- that you be in on the deal. I specifically did not want you to buy it ahead of the deal, although I am now being ridiculed -- thanks Huffington Post! -- for suggesting that I wanted you in at $3.70.

Look, I have no idea really how Citigroup is doing. That's because they don't know how it is doing. That's the biggest flaw of the joint, of course. But what does matter is that I think that worldwide GDP growth is going to be stronger than people think, and that will cure a lot of the errors of all banks, including Citigroup.

Sometimes, as I say in Getting Back to Even, bad merchandise turns into good merchandise at a price. The idea that so much supply could knock down Citigroup to where the stock traded is of ZERO interest to me. The dilution? It is manageable.

The main thing is the stupidity of the critics who keep calling it a bad deal. A bad deal is one that breaks print, not one that goes up after.

Make judgments only about whether you make or lose money. That's what you can try to control.
The rest is dross ginned up by people who need something to write or talk about.

At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in the stocks mentioned.




Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:07 | Link to Comment bugs_
bugs_'s picture

You home gamers need to do your homework!

take my show away!

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Bearish News
Bearish News's picture

His rationale was classic. "It's 3 and a half bucks, and I know you like that
!!"

Gotta love advanced fundamental analysis.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Divided States ...
Divided States of America's picture

At least he admitted one thing, he HAS NO IDEA...which is the basis of most of his calls.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
Cognitive Dissonance's picture

"At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in the stocks mentioned."

It also looks like he's not sampling what he's cooking. Very interesting. I suspect some of his bad calls come from the fact that he has a daily show and he needs to introduce variety into his calls.

People who "love" him love his ferocity and emotion. They assume since he "feels" so strongly about what he's saying, he's someone they should follow. Most people don't know that manic-depressives act this way.

He also feels strongly about his favorite ice cream. Does that mean I should buy that as well? What flavor do you recommend Cramer?

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:37 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
SilverIsKing's picture

If I can speak for Cramer, "Tutti Fruity."

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment economessed
economessed's picture

Rocky road....

Blue moon...

 

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 15:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:11 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
DaveyJones's picture

No matter what Cramer said, I'm just glad that my taxpayer preferred shares were converted to common then diluted by a new public offering 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
Hephasteus's picture

Tree Fiddy strikes again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8iHPC-dGKY

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:10 | Link to Comment ShankyS
ShankyS's picture

"In on the deal, but not ahead of the deal, but I have no idea really how CITI is doing, and no open positions."

That about sums it up.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:15 | Link to Comment P Rankmug
P Rankmug's picture

How does Cramer get rewarded for touting this crap?  Are his med prescriptions comped?  Besides the humiliation, what's in it for Cramer?

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
Comrade de Chaos's picture

a juicy rumor:

Overheard that PIMCO underwrote some CDS contracts and got a bit burned. (some people were let go) And while they are still playing in well calculated poker, the rest of the pack (majority) are outright gambling.

Just imagine getting caught on the other side of interest swaps when the rates suddenly spike. (and once our economy does pick up , eventually  -- -- duck & cover.)

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:18 | Link to Comment spekulatn
spekulatn's picture

At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in the stocks mentioned.

 

Nuff said.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:18 | Link to Comment lizzy36
lizzy36's picture

interesting analysis.

so if it is a bad deal for the bank, who is it a good deal for?

the only reason it didn't break print is because the underwriters stood in their @ $3.25 and swallowed more than paris hilton has in her lifetime (so a metric ass ton).

interesting he doesn't mention the giant overhang, being the governments stock. 

stock will probably trade up today on S&P re-balance. 

seriously, if one expects stronger than than consesus GDP prints, isn't there about a million other ways in which one could play that scenario (that are less risky and provide greater upside)?

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:26 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
SteveNYC's picture

"swallowed more than paris hilton has in her lifetime"

You sold me on this line, absolutely brilliant! Coming from a chick too.....

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
Careless Whisper's picture

+1   too funny

Sat, 12/19/2009 - 01:45 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

and none of it food

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:56 | Link to Comment gmak
gmak's picture

Good point. Except that Paris doesn't swallow.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Rusty_Shackleford
Rusty_Shackleford's picture

 

Yeah, if I remember correctly she's a bit of a puritan.

She rolls with the schoolmarmish "Let me know when, and then you can douse my neck and breasts with your ejaculate."

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:40 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
ZeroPower's picture

so eloquently put that i lold pretty hard

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:21 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
Miles Kendig's picture

seriously, if one expects stronger than than consesus GDP prints, isn't there about a million other ways in which one could play that scenario (that are less risky and provide greater upside)?

Lizzy - You have me in stitches.  The reason Cramer made this selection is the same reason Paris makes hers.  They were both a long way from the door and are the subject of broad publicity.  Perhaps there is far more in common between Paris & Cramer if we just look a little closer. In this I agree fully with your closing observation and suspect that most of those who rely upon Cramer's investing advice ultimately realize that it is Paris who has been choosing their dates.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:42 | Link to Comment AnonymousMonetarist
AnonymousMonetarist's picture

DeFazio is a good man

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:49 | Link to Comment malusDiaz
malusDiaz's picture

Glad to have him as a represenative =)

 

And Merkly, they both give the Bankers the shaft.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:23 | Link to Comment midnitepoet
midnitepoet's picture

Cramer's show on CNBC is definitive of CNBC's problem. Hype and Noise replacing Thought and Analysis. What a CrapShow indeed!

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:28 | Link to Comment StopInvesting
StopInvesting's picture

That link goes to his sign up page for subscription. He should be paying us!

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:28 | Link to Comment etrader
etrader's picture

Yet more bread n' butter stuff for the daily show to run with......

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:29 | Link to Comment cocoablini
cocoablini's picture

These douchebags like Cramer, it's not their money, so who cares?

On the otherhand, Paulson and Associates(not Henry) are long Citi for a reason. What's the reason? TBTF banks are just a profit machine now. They have a revenue filter which allows profits to flow through and losses to divert into the US taxpayer Hoover Dam. Why WOULDN'T you not recommend garbage like Citi when you know full well that even if a 5 year old was running the place it would make profits and no losses?

In the meantime, I'm still waiting for my Goldman Sachs ATM card...

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Shameful
Shameful's picture

So if I act like a wildman and shill for stocks I openly have no idea about I too can have a show on CNBC?  Well hell, where do I sign up? I even have a full head of hair that should put me ahead of Cramer.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 16:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 16:53 | Link to Comment JR
JR's picture

and well worth it too.  fitting reminders...for these financial times.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:38 | Link to Comment AnonymousMonetarist
AnonymousMonetarist's picture

Smells Fargo on line 2

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:35 | Link to Comment AnonymousMonetarist
AnonymousMonetarist's picture

There are 4 shares of Citi for each person on the planet.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:23 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
Miles Kendig's picture

Citi stock is indeed a case study in how to apply the concept of scarcity for success and profit.

Sat, 12/19/2009 - 01:48 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

0.o

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:36 | Link to Comment RSDallas
RSDallas's picture

Jim Cramer has been setting himself up for a huge fall for the last 6 months (some would argue forever).  His comment "I have no idea really how Citigroup is doing", I think says a lot about Jims approach to investing.  He probably doesn't know anything about any of the companies he touts, other than what Govt. Sachs may be saying.

Jim is a promoter and that's it (and a good one).  He will have a lot of explaining to do when the house of cards begin to fall again. 

Jim better start reading up on topics such as deflation, inflation, money supply, dollar valuation, trade balances, credit and especially debt and what impact these forces can (and will) have on the stock market, as his viewers will inevitably start asking why he didn't ever mention these.  But he probably "has no idea how the real economy is doing in the United States".

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:45 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
Brett in Manhattan's picture

Did You Make Money? Then It Was a Good Deal

By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
12/18/2009 9:30 AM EST
http://www.thestreet.com/p/rmoney/jimcramerblog/10649290.html

The Citigroup (C) deal was a good deal. It just wasn't good for the bank.

I was adamant the other day -- some would say rabid -- that you be in on the deal. I specifically did not want you to buy it ahead of the deal, although I am now being ridiculed -- thanks Huffington Post! -- for suggesting that I wanted you in at $3.70. "

_____________

Actually, Jim, you wanted us in at 4. I guess you forgot about this:

From Seeking Alpha:

Stocks discussed on the in-depth session of Jim Cramer's Mad Money TV Program, Thursday August 6, 2009.

Citigroup (C)

Why would investors want to buy stock of a bank that represents national economic woes, and of which 34% is owned by taxpayers? Cramer thinks Citigroup is not just a buy for the individual investor, but is a buy for America. However, the reasons go beyond patriotism and may involve huge profits. Cramer gave 5 reasons to buy this underdog bank:

1. It is cheap. Very cheap. While some argue that it is not possible to figure out how much Citigroup is actually worth, Cramer thinks the book value is about $4 per share and thinks the stock should sell at 1.5 book value for a $6 price target*.

* Now, he claims he doesn't know how Citiigroup is doing.

 2. On September 10, the government can sell its 34% stake in Citigroup. The government has already made $5 billion on its position, and could have a $20 billion windfall from the sale.

3. Citigroup is the dominant bank in 108 countries. In spite of its domestic woes, Citigroup is still the leader in emerging markets.

4.Citigroup is spinning off bad loans by dividing itself into Citigroup proper and Citigroup Holdings. This leaves the main bank with three profitable businesses; retail banking, global services and investment banking.

5. Solid management. Cramer says the government would be crazy to replace CEOs Vikram Pandit and Ned Kelly.

Cramer called Citigroup "the ultimate call on economic growth worldwide."

 

 

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment ATG
ATG's picture

Will JC commit Hari Kiri live on the air for ratings?

GE dumped NBC.

BAC broke.

 

Can C, GE, HBC and WFC be far behind?

There are no financial earnings anywhere folks if balance

sheets are reconciled and bad loans foreclosed

or marked to market...

 

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:39 | Link to Comment AR
AR's picture

What an absolute idiot this guy is. If it wasn't for his wife's money, Cramer would still be living out of the back of his car. No wonder Berkowitz distanced himself from this "moronic mouthpiece." Clearly his Citi call was caused from his lapse in taking his bi-polar medicine.

Cramer states:  Look, I have no idea really how Citigroup is doing. 

Then keep your mouth shut...

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Tripps
Tripps's picture

everyone who bought the secondary is up right now. the government is at break even

 

once again, you got 10 comments here whereas 7 months ago you had 100

 

there's a reason..you spin everything negative when in fact one of the largest equity offers ever is still in the money

 

cramer 1- ZH -0

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:45 | Link to Comment AnonymousMonetarist
AnonymousMonetarist's picture

The double secret insolvency premium is priced in!

Broker on the phone he got some monkeys for sale.

Can't return your call they haulin him to jail.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
Brett in Manhattan's picture

Hi, Cliff Mason.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Jeff Lebowski
Jeff Lebowski's picture

Are you sure about that?

In the tape, he says to buy after hours, tomorrow, any day but the day of the offering.  Closing price on C at the time was $3.69.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
Green Sharts's picture

You're stoned again Lebowski.  On the tape he says NOT to buy after hours or the next day, that if you buy anytime other than on the secondary "you're an idiot."

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:43 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
Careless Whisper's picture

Look everyone, with Cramer, what you see is what you get. We know he's an idiot, but an entertaining one. At least he's not a scumbag investment bank that pretends that its research on a conviction buy is some legit research done for the benefit of its investing clients. Aren't they the ones that are more dishonest and dangerous?

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 16:06 | Link to Comment milbank
milbank's picture

Entertaining?  I couldn't even get through a third of that video above before I had to shut it off. 

Obnoxious and grating is not entertaining. 

If CNBC had a soul, they'd have something akin in format and decorum to "Wall Street Week with Louis Rukheyser" only on a nightly basis.  Not that those panelists didn't have an agenda of their own and the audience they were targeting were more "casual" towards investing than me but, at least it was something I could manage to sit through.

Sat, 12/19/2009 - 01:52 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

yawn...  no booyyah for ya

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:47 | Link to Comment koaj
koaj's picture

this one gets a double BOO-YAH!

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:48 | Link to Comment phaesed
phaesed's picture

Ummm, "I have no clue"

 

He shoulda just stopped there.

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:03 | Link to Comment wgpitts
wgpitts's picture

"Lotto tickets are only a buck and I know you like that price...besides, somebodys bound to win..."

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
Brett in Manhattan's picture

Cramer is "dross."

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:14 | Link to Comment 10044
10044's picture

The SEC should fine this guy before the mob whack him!

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Daedal
Daedal's picture

Make judgments only about whether you make or lose money. That's what you can try to control.
The rest is dross ginned up by people who need something to write or talk about.

"Individual decisions can be badly thought through, and yet be successful, or exceedingly well thought through, but be unsuccessful, because the recognized possibility of failure in fact occurs. But over time, more thoughtful decision-making will lead to better overall results, and more thoughtful decision-making can be encouraged by evaluating decisions on how well they were made rather than outcome." - Robert Rubin, Harvard Commencement Address, 2001.

Words of wisdom, something Cramer should re-read until it sinks in. As an aside, the ultimate irony here is that Rubin hails from Citigroup.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Fruffing
Fruffing's picture

Why not just change the channel?   Life's too short to waste on twits.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Fruffing
Fruffing's picture

Why not just change the channel?   Life's too short to waste on twits.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Fruffing
Fruffing's picture

Why not just change the channel?   Life's too short to waste on twits.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Fruffing
Fruffing's picture

Why not just change the channel?   Life's too short to waste on twits.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Fruffing
Fruffing's picture

Why not just change the channel?   Life's too short to waste on twits.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:43 | Link to Comment ATG
ATG's picture

or twitchy trigger fingers...

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:03 | Link to Comment JR
JR's picture

Cramer may be a funny clown and exceptionally light-hearted economic entertainment for the pop culture, but in this case--probably wired in to the financial elite’s plan to hype Citi shares for a quick return on insider government information--he’s a pretty dangerous individual.  Non investor types, who probably make up most of Cramer’s audience, would come away from the show with his drum-beat message: Buy, Buy, Buy, Citi! (Re-listen to the intro!)

The Huffington Post, in an update, says, Jim Cramer wrote in and said that he intended his recommendation to only apply to Citigroup's secondary stock offering price, which was $3.15. CNBC.com's accompanying piece, however, and many of Cramer's other comments in the video suggest that Citi's main stock price of $3.70 was still quite low.

The rant was so over the top--even suggested early on by Cramer to be an exception to his usual presentation--that very few viewers would have caught what he now tries to use as an escape hatch.  In other words you’d have to listen to his entire program to get that fine point (if it was there), in this Barnum & Bailey barker rant.

Cramer:" We're looking for doorbusters and you're getting a doorbuster! You're getting a discount and getting it big time and getting a huge piece of marked-down Citigroup merchandise."

Ninety-five percent of the people who tuned into that rant believed that Cramer was demanding that you buy Citigroup.  And those same 95 percent missed that alleged narrow window price suggestion. 

As HP put it, it seems unclear whether or not Cramer is recommending the stock's secondary offering price ($3.15) or just telling viewers to go out out and buy the stock.

Continues HP:” Here's the accompanying (Cramer video) piece from CNBC.com:

The share price is just $3.70, a near lottery-ticket price with somewhat similar potential. While the dollar amount doesn't matter, Cramer does bless this as a single-digit speculation play, the kind that investors seem to love so much.

“How's that investment doing so far? Citi's stock stood at $3.20 early Thursday night -- just about a 14 percent loss in three days if you had bought Citi shares outside of the secondary offering price, as Zero Hedge pointed out.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/17/jim-cramers-insanely-pass_n_396389.html

In the old days, Cramer was part of the Goldman/Bernanke Dog and Pony Show.  It’s clear nothing has changed--Bernanke is still the wild pony, Cramer the raging dog and Goldman owns the big tent.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:28 | Link to Comment John McCloy
John McCloy's picture

One has to ask themselves.

"Why is this self proclaimed "Brilliant" former Hedge Fund manager on TV selling books and television as opposed to doing what he claims to do so well which is running a hedge fund?

Answer:

The goal was to have someone like Cramer become popular and have mom and pop unknowingly Invite the "vampire" into their homes. Jim Cramer was a large catalyst for the bubble. If you look at the Dow and volume after his show debuted it was quite evident the mission of sucking dollars out of hard working Americans and getting them the markets allowing them to believe they had a chance. It was like 1929 on technological steroids and the reason I know the game has not ended yet is because many of those people have not yet become completely disenfranchised with the stock market because Cramer is still on the air. It all ends when those Booyahskidad home gamers have no desire to even look at CNBC because they are more concerned where their next meal is coming from. Wall Street is fattening the pig up for once last slaughter. And the answer is Cramer was simply not a very good hedge fund manager which is why he is on television and resorted to manipulation by his own admission. He is cut from the same cloth as the rest. This is why I have held FAZ for the last 2 months because when this unravels I may need FAZ just to pay the bills since Manhattan real estate here is now entering uncharted terroritory and the recovery is nowhere near better than expected.

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:46 | Link to Comment besodemuerte
besodemuerte's picture

Makes sense to me, and doesn't steer from what we already know of 'the plan'.  I concur.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:49 | Link to Comment ATG
ATG's picture

Absolutely correct Cramer a shill off his meds.

C a buy at 97 cents and sell at $7.58.

Cramer missed both calls and trades,

along with many others. Maybe that's why

GE sold him...

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 15:51 | Link to Comment JR
JR's picture

Powerful post! John McCloy. The stock market—as well as the financial media--is rigged.  The intention of The President’s Working Group on Financial Markets (PPT) is to falsify the picture of supply and demand.  That’s why they (the PPT)—the Treasury secretary, the Fed chair, the SEC chair and the CFTC chair—wanted and were granted permission by President Ronald Reagan to buy equities. Robert Rubin himself acknowledged during a high level financial meeting that “the Fed” intervenes to stabilize stock markets via phone calls to major stock investors with instructions on short-term injections. Hank Paulson fessed, in different terms, to the same.

How can there be fair play trading for Joe Q. Average when the US “government” legitimizes a PPT of market insiders masquerading as government officials for "enhancing the integrity, efficiency, orderliness, and competitiveness of financial markets and maintaining investor confidence” while the insider media, ie., Jim Cramer, shills for them?  Investor confidence?  How about insider confidence!

You see where it's led.  Which is what they intended.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Jewelsnorth
Jewelsnorth's picture

Today's a quick profit for those who bought the secondary earlier this week and are selling it to the Index funds rebalancing funds today.

So I'm guessing that we should see a return to the downward direction after Monday?

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 14:51 | Link to Comment ATG
ATG's picture

C volume bigger than the NYA means something.

Underwriters shearing Sovereigns and taxpayers...

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Cyan Lite
Cyan Lite's picture

To be fair, Cramer did say not to buy C ahead of the offering.  But what's TRULY amazing is that Jim Cramer says that Citi can go to $12 a share (after the dilution).  That'll be a market cap of about $274 billion, and would make it the 2nd largest company in the world, and twice the current market cap of BAC.

Then again, if hyperinflation takes place as many folks here are predicting then $12 would probably be quite cheap...

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 15:28 | Link to Comment Jewelsnorth
Jewelsnorth's picture

He'll probably will correct himself later and add that he'd meant it'll reach $12/share after a 10:1 reverse split.

Sat, 12/19/2009 - 03:51 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
Brett in Manhattan's picture

Yes he did, back in August. Does that not count?

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/32375678

Citigroup “has been red hot,” Cramer said during Tuesday’s Stop Trading!. He called the stock a buy, predicting a $6 share price within the next 18 months.

 

 

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Tripps
Tripps's picture

once again, you guys bash and see everything negative...you could have made 5% today if you bought yesterday

 

instead, still focused on what cramer says instead of making money

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 19:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 12/18/2009 - 20:54 | Link to Comment JR
JR's picture


Cramer’s buy, buy, buy Citi chant overshadowed any detail in that disgusting performance  and Cramer has a non experienced investor audience.  Anyone listening to Cramer for investment advice, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.  For anyone not up to speed on all the details, the one thing he heard time after time, for 17 times or more, was: Buy Citi! Buy Citi! Buy Citi!, you have to take it, it’s only $3 in change,  at an unnaturally low price,  the bottom line--I want you to buy, buy, buy Citigroup… a little dollar amount acorn that could once again grow into a mighty dollar tree…buy, buy, buy, all aboard…in this market that is moving rentlessly higher…at a beaten down price… buy-buy-buy Citi.

I suppose a serious investor would have asked for a copy of what Cramer called this “breaking form” performance for a “darn opportunity that’s too good to miss” to find out what the fine print said. But as I said before, IMO “Ninety-five percent of the people who tuned into that rant believed that Cramer was demanding that you buy Citigroup.  And those same 95 percent missed that alleged narrow window price suggestion.”

Did YOU take Cramer’s advice?  Did you go buy-buy-buy for the long haul? Is this how you make your buy decisions? I bet not.

As The Huffington Post  pointed out: “Cramer went on a breathless -- and rather unbelievable -- rant about the merits of buying Citigroup's stock… His logic: Citigroup's stock was priced so low that it could sit in your portfolio for years, it has a great reputation abroad and was much less exposed to the mortgage market than, say, Wells Fargo… At one point in the video, Cramer argues against buying the stock at any other price than at the secondary offering price, but then spends the next several minutes arguing why the stock is generally undervalued.

Regardless of the merits of buying Citi, in “fairness to Cramer,” let’s just call his insane performance shameless.

Fri, 12/18/2009 - 22:27 | Link to Comment omi
omi's picture

3.20 to 3.40  THANK YOU CRAMER!!! that's nearly 6 percent

Sat, 12/19/2009 - 00:17 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/19/2009 - 10:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 12/19/2009 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 12/20/2009 - 00:28 | Link to Comment JR
JR's picture

Dang, that's good.  What a wrap up!

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!