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Ctrl+Alt+Bernanke: Operation Empire State Rebellion Resumes Attack On Fed Chairman

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Operation Empire State Rebellion is back. Perhaps in the aftermath of the IMF "very major breach" by anonymous hackers, it is really time to make sure all external access points to FedWire and FedLine are truly safe and sound. It will be very sad if it is uncovered that this source of externally accessible portal to hundreds of billions in emergency Fed funding has been somehow compromised. Just imagine the loss of confidence in the system... Why, a global distributed attack would really stretch the Fed's 1,200-strong police force quite thin.

Op_ESR's just released video:

90 days ago, we requested Ben Bernanke's resignation as Federal Reserve chairman. Mr. Bernanke has not complied with our request.

  • The Federal Reserve's policies are systematically looting the country to enrich one-tenth of one percent of the population.
  • The Federal Reserve has deliberately driven tens of millions of people into poverty.
  • The Federal Reserve is responsible for Crimes Against Humanity!
  • The Federal Reserve gave trillions of American taxpayer dollars, in secrecy, to the people who were most responsible for causing our economic crisis.
  • Our tax dollars were handed out as all-time record-breaking bonuses to top executives at the “Too Big to Fail” global banks.
  • The Federal Reserve gave American taxpayer dollars to foreign banks and corporations.
  • The Federal Reserve directly subsidized tax evasion by funneling taxpayer dollars into to the Cayman Islands.
  • The Federal Reserve gave American tax dollars to their primary dealer banks, so the banks could then lend that same money back to the US government at higher interest rates, leading to significant profits for the banks, at the further expense of the American public.
  • Through bailout programs the Federal Reserve socialized financial losses onto American taxpayers and privatized profits into the hands of global banks.
  • The Federal Reserve aids and abets trillions of dollars in accounting fraud.
  • The Federal Reserve routinely manipulates the stock market.
  • The Federal Reserve deliberately caused inflation in the price of food, gas and basic necessities, while devaluing the dollar!
  • The Federal Reserve represents the central planning force behind a global banking cartel that has deliberately impoverished people throughout the world.

US Politicians have not taken action to break up the Federal Reserve and the “Too Big To Fail” Banks.
US Politicians have not taken action to prosecute the people who caused our economic crisis.
US Politicians have not taken action to end the system of political bribery, the campaign finance and lobbying racket, which allows global bankers to control our political process.
Democrats have failed us.
Republicans have failed us.
No one is defending our interests.
We cannot remain passive while our future is going up in flames.
It is time for us to stand up for ourselves.
It is time for you to stand up for yourself.
We must restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.
We must now launch Operation Empire State Rebellion.
The operation will commence on June 14th.
As a first step, we are calling upon you to occupy a public space until Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke steps down.

Operation Empire State Rebellion, Engaged.

 


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Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:49 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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For now, they seem to better master AfterEffects than hacking. 

But I'll wait and see. 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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How about occupying a pubic space instead?

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:31 | Link to Comment three chord sloth
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While I'm all for occupying pubic spaces as much as possible, I do not see how that will help the cause at this time.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:22 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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This stool at the end of the bar is a public place.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 12:05 | Link to Comment mkkby
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This is all misguided.  We don't want hack attacks because that just provides the false flag to shut down internet freedom.  We don't want physical protests because that's another false flag to unleash the thug brigades against the people...  Not only that but it didn't even slow down the Viet Nam war.

What we want is for everyone to opt out.  Stop feeding the beast as much as possible.  Stop doing business with TBTF banks.  Stop buying corporate crap that we don't need.  Buy PMs and barter if you can.  Doing this will bring down the system without breaking any laws that can cause a backlash.  There's nothing they can do if we simply make choices that are in our best interest, which at the same time deny revenues and taxes to those who are destroying our society.

Just fucking opt out.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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mkkby

+14.5 T

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:13 | Link to Comment FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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amen mkkby,

"Refuse to participate in the charade"

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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This is a fucking joke , do you think Americans give a shit they are so hopelessly dependant on the system they will give their life for it , they like being a slave and been made homeless and giving away all their rights and been shit on as long as they can watch snookie on their flat screen whilst been told how great America is doing , they will not get it until it is all gone . If you don't believe me see what happen on June 14 , I will tell you now NOTHING. All these post about rebellion are just bread and circus, I used to care about the poor people who had not woken up , but then I realized they don't want to they are happy being slaves , the whole human race is devolving and they deserve what they get, I Have no children , I have a good life no taxes , my own land free and clear, so why should I give a fuck about the rest of America if they are stupid enough to let the banks/ politicians do this to them FUCK um

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:49 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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And one other thing people take about "non violent protest" yet the police come in and kick the shit out of them ,how about violent protests take your guns and shoot the police then they will know you are not just pathetic soft dick Americans , you all say you want change , bull shit , fucking slaves are all the same.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Well abitdodgie, isn't it interesting that what is essentially a progression of slave culture, ie. inner city black culture, is now the dominant culture of America?

Look at black representation in the popular (sic) arts space. In sports of course. Everywhere except academia/finance and politics, where they remain a total minority.

I think that is very interesting in light of what you said above. I mean, ZH can do a wordcount of Muthafuka, hood, bitch and nigga, it'd be heavy.

Slave mind. Show me the way massah, you be the light.

Yo! wasup?

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/hey-america/

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 10:54 | Link to Comment SuperRay
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+1000

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 15:42 | Link to Comment Ben Fleeced
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+>20%

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 05:37 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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Interestingly, the music chosen for the background of the Anonymous clip seems to be a stretched version of the End Theme Title to the movie 'Wall Street' (Charlie Sheen, Michael Douglas & Daryl Hannah), as this scene in the movie is where Sheen's character, 'Bud Fox' is walking up the stairs to the Federal Court to commence his trial for charges of 'Market Manipulation'...this is of course one of the charges which Anonymous accuses Ben Bernanke and the US Fed of committing.
Coincidence????????????????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Jp5SgsNqo

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:12 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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If time were on our side, it would help by increasing our numbers. But we all know we're already living on borrowed time from our fate.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Shredd the FED
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This is a MUST watch… 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqXVYTKKMec

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:00 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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people just need to start using barter and time banks more and more..  get out of the debt cycle and they lose power more and more

 

(also, has everyone reused the Fallout 3 'Please Stand By' screenshot now?) 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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Anymore of the Fed and I'll be occupying the public space under a bridge.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:28 | Link to Comment AnonymousAnarchist
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If Americans chose a weekday (that's not a holiday), chose a large city, chose a main main square or artery in the city, gathered there and refused to leave until specific demands were met (like the Egyptians did), the extreme violence that would be used against ordinary, non-violent Americans and broadcast everywhere via the internet would be a breaking point.

However, because of the collective state of denial in the US, this just won't happen. The gatherings will eventually happen but not until after TSHTF and, by then, the gatherings will cause more harm than good.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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Boston (Malibu beach), Charlotte, NC, ...

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Michael
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Flash Mob dancing in public places seems to be becoming popular.

Adam Kokesh Jefferson Memorial Flash (Dance) Mob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSO3XYHYqwA

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:02 | Link to Comment l1xx3r
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Yeah cause dancing will make a difference. Stupid.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:17 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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If you think it's about the dancing you are a grand-scale idiot. It's about drawing public awareness to the fact that the country is now firmly in the grip of tyrants. The average person might not understand protesting the Federal Reserve Corporation, but the average person definitely understands that being arrested for dancing in public is unacceptable. And at the Jefferson Memorial of all places...

Small (two)steps on the road to liberation. More than you are doing, I am sure.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:26 | Link to Comment FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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+10

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:03 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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dancing frees towns from tyranny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUsNpfXwEy0

 

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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.308 W and 5.56 ap free towns from cupcakes!

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 02:45 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Sting, the musician, wrote a song called "They Dance Alone" about dances in Chile protesting the tyranny of Pinochet.

Men and boys were disappearing from villages and the news media was not allowed to discuss openly the government nor the disappearances so the mothers had to silently suffer but still had a voice in dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuclbQwXnBs

 

While not dance, 71-year-old Ray McGovern, in protest against Hillary Clinton, stood and turned his back on her during a speech only to be dragged from the audience then left beaten and bleeding in jail.  The speech by HC was condemning governments that arrest protestors and do not allow free expression

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0PcPDr1DeA

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 20:10 | Link to Comment Shredd the FED
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+1

Just recently there were people brutally arrested for kissing, and dancing at this memorial...  This video is to show that we already live in a  Police State…

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:40 | Link to Comment Cleve Meater
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What the fuck is "occupying a public space"?  I do that everytime I have a constitutional in a public restroom.  Does that count?

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:37 | Link to Comment Sam Clemons
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I enjoy dropping Bernankes off in public restrooms.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Moneyshot20
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I enjoy drawing his face in the toilet.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Shredd the FED
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This is how we need to resist… This is what was happening before, during, and after G20 2010 meeting in Toronto…

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySX3P8S0avA&feature=watch_response

 

Long, but very well made video… Worth watching and sharing with others…

 

 

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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One cop charged and very little public interest in pursuing it:

http://arkadaba.blogspot.com/2010/07/what-is-bothering-most-about-g20.html

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:47 | Link to Comment Popo
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Meh.  Actions.   Not words.   If you're going to talk *that* big, you had better have something to back it up.

Attack first.  Then take credit.  Don'tcha know there are established Rules of Engagement for this sort of thing?

 

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Don't wait for 'leadership' to give you instructions. Act on your own. Before calling out someone else who's talking the talk to your dissatisfaction call yourself out. Muster in 10 minutes.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment illyia
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Right. June 14th.

Any.Public.Space.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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6/14 b doggies birthdays.  So at Benning, I did "ONE for the doggies birthday".  Black-hats had to bite their cheeks as they pushed along.

- Ned

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:14 | Link to Comment CH1
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YES. Waiting for a leader is the same old game, and ends up leading to the same old place.

Rock on CD.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Worse, if one waits for a 'leader' one will be provided for you by the powers that be.

It is right out of the playbook of controlled opposition and other herding and mind control techniques a la psyops.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:49 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Just tweet that Justin Bieber and Sarah Palin will be at your local post office soon!  ... bringing the free beer.   You'll have a crowd riot and will never get them to leave.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 03:40 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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+lol Rocky

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 18:02 | Link to Comment FIAT_FixItAgainTony
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+10 rocky.  reminds me of monty python:

good idea oh Lord.

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 14:07 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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A couple months ago, somebody jokingly tweeted to a friend that Brad Pitt was on campus. In no time at all, there were herds of college girls surrounding the buildings where they believed him to be.

Social media can be your ally.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Popo
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Muster? Lol @ CD. Got your camos on then do you CD? For those of us who live far from the US, mustering is a bit tough anyway. Tax revolts are more 21st century.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Who said anything about armed resistance? The term muster was used to imply you should activate yourself and push back. The method used is up to you. Armed resistance is exactly what the powers that be what to be used against them because the system can counter that and doing so will actually feed the system.

A 100 million people doing their own thing will bring it down quickly. They can't force me to buy LCD TVs or keep my money in the stock market. And so on. Think outside of the box.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:13 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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nay armed resistance. passive--you go girl.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 12:19 | Link to Comment mkkby
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Right on, CD.  We don't want hack attacks because that just provides the false flag to shut down internet freedom.  We don't want physical protests because that's another false flag to unleash the thug brigades against the people...  Not only that but it didn't even slow down the Viet Nam war.

What we want is for everyone to opt out.  Stop feeding the beast as much as possible.  Stop doing business with TBTF banks.  Stop buying corporate crap that we don't need.  Buy PMs and barter if you can.  Doing this will bring down the system without breaking any laws that can cause a backlash.  There's nothing they can do if we simply make choices that are in our best interest, which at the same time deny profit and taxes to those who are destroying our society.

Just fucking opt out.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment creviceCaress
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the J.F.O. strat is old/cold;  en masse, over a a few quarters....maybe.  but still, idealistic....not realistic.  im sure the tech.s of the spectacle have a good plan to mask/deny/hide/capitalize on a sit. where good citizens decide not to play ball......after witnessing what they're capable of....(911, '08, now, etc.)...opting out is like....occupying public space.....like voting.  why?   sure, they take events and maximize the piss out of them, but "we" really dont provide them with reasons to shut down www, engage us for protests,etc.......w*w/o reason, they commence what they need to commence..........dont have one? make one. very easily done and done quite often thruot our glorious history.  armed resistance? absolutley, just not me.  throw out some militia-types/bible extremists so we can see what they'll do.  then take all the info they(us.gov) have put out over the years about the juiciest targets that the trrrrists were gonna hit, and let's dance.  we know its coming...........we, as citizens, are responsible for letting our 'handlers' take us into pre-emptive war........let's follow the precedent and pre-emptively act in our best interest?...........just kidding! har, i'll think i'll opt for an after-dinner round of dj shorts' blueberry and not worry about it.  call me if anything changes.

 

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:33 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Norman Morrison's heirs might disagree with you about the Vietnam war.

Norman Morrison, born in Erie, Pennsylvania, on December 29, 1933, was a Baltimore Quaker best known for committing suicide at age 31 in an act of self-immolation to protest United States involvement in the Vietnam War, outside then Defense Minister Robert McNamara's office in the Pentagon. On November 2, 1965, Morrison doused himself in kerosene and set himself on fire below Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara's Pentagon office, after handing over his young daughter to one of the spectators in the crowd.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 17:20 | Link to Comment SpiritBlade
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he was trying to call you out. and mock anyone who considers violence.

I think we all know where this is going but are agreed that the tyrant will fire the first shot. Now its just to the people to recognize the audible percussion.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:59 | Link to Comment trentusa
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anybody heard of Radio Atlanta or Radio Caroline? They were American owned pirate radio stations that sold advertising until Spain's Congress made it a felony to do biz w/ the american pirate ship, but anything that has ever been done b4 can be accomplished again.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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Don't wait for 'leadership' to give you instructions. Act on your own. Before calling out someone else who's talking the talk to your dissatisfaction call yourself out.

CD, give this a read.

http://ampedstatus.org/network/members/admin/activity/35028

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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So we play by their rules?

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:30 | Link to Comment trentusa
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i was hangin' w/ a marine sniper claimed to have done black ops & he said plans of engagement get thrown out window as soon as go into battle. How about just vote fer RP 2012 so we can all get along & play nice

 

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:17 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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dude, don't need no 0317 to know that the battle plan is rather flexible.  Even the doggies have figured this out.  But there is nothing about "play nice" in this scheme.

Can I get what u b smoking?  'cuz it must b good.

- Ned

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 01:51 | Link to Comment wannabe traitor
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whoever junked you doesnt know much. Besides the Navy SEALs , scout snipers of the Marine Force Recon are an elite unit that rarely gets any press time, i could venture as far as underappreciated. I only know this because one of my best friends from high school is a scout sniper and he has told me of missions with SEALs, and rules of engagement do get thrown out the window. thats life. end the fed!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment MarketWatchTerrorist
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Could be diversionary.  If they are actually announcing their targets beforehand then they apparently don't realize how many well paid and skilled professionals are arrayed against them.  Even with a zero day, if they announce their target before hand their activity will be quickly detected and stopped.

 

Anonymous may be legion, but so are the people being paid $200K a year to stop them.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:01 | Link to Comment dolly madison
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Meh, we need words too.  Anonymous has been hacking into things.  They are doing actions.  But if people don't go out into the streets and show that we want what anonymous is demanding, then the government will just demonize and prosecute them without anything being done. 

Haven't you been watching the middle east.  Nothing's gonna get fixed if people are not out in the streets demanding it.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:00 | Link to Comment CH1
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Words in private, to bring people out of their coma, are fine; good even. But, publicly, we have a massive tidal wave of endless words, and no action. It goes nowhere at all.

Either ACT, or remain a neuter.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:35 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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I agree that the whole "occupy a public space" idea seems weak, but at least it's something. We need loud, angry, mobs with blowhorns marching on all branches of the Fed.

 

What else we need is awake veterans returning from war, to fight the REAL battle, against the REAL enemies of America.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Josh Randall
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+++1 million -- seriously, hats off to these folks for putting a placeholder on the caledar and inviting others to put their time where their mouths are. I hope 100k+ show, I will be protesting in my own way that day on the other side of the country 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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WEAK? What the fuck
Has everyone forgotten the lesson of Vietnam and Cairo so quickly.
Appearing together on short notice in a public place to be seen by your like-minded fellow citizens is the Absolute STRONG thing to do.
I am going to a local mall at high noon and again at 1pm and yell end the fed three times. and post my intent on Craigslist. Perhaps put up a Facebook page for the time and place. Maybe I'll be the only one there.
Southpointe, athe fountain in front of the theater complex.
Muster now is the call. Public is the place You take from there.
A close friend has lived in Cairo since before the spring revolution and it is going well Only Because of masses of non-violent people, citizens - in the streets. Almost all civil crowds with a pre-announced non-violent intent remained non-violent during the large End the War rallies in the Vietnam era. I was there in San Fran, oakland, and Minneapolis.
Look to see you there Or you're basically a lazy shit couch potato blowing smoke out your ass and don't give a flying fuck.

Crumbles

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 14:16 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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You don't seem to understand that the protests in Cairo are only non-violent (on both sides) because they serve the elite's gaming strategy of remolding the political world in order to gain a more secure stranglehold on the people living under it.

The instant a real, grass-roots protest arises, two things will happen. First, the MSM and the politicos will treat it as a criminally inspired threat to "The American Way," creating the mindset for conflict. Second, false-flag provocateurs will infiltrate the movement, initiating the violence that TPTB will have to rise up against.

Bahrain's protests were mostly peaceful as well, yet their revolution was not televised, as the Sauds were too busy cracking heads.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 19:31 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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And don't forget:

Depository Trust Company (DTC, DTCC)

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:47 | Link to Comment Dayadog
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Sweet!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:48 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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If Empire State Rebellion is going to do something impressive, the time to act is now.

Otherwise, talk is cheap.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:54 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Nice video.  My guess is that exactly NOTHING will take place.  No one will occupy any government space.  No computers will crash.  As a matter of fact, life will probably continue in US of Zombie Land as it has for the last few years.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:56 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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+1

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Reese Bobby
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In fairness the weiner story is pretty all consuming at the moment.  And what about poor Huma?  Save us Nancy Pelosi!  Save us Hillary Clinton!

 

Were gonna need a bigger DILDO!!!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:22 | Link to Comment Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Maybe the first strike was Weiner. Maybe Weiner is the ... Mancircumsized Candidate!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:36 | Link to Comment falak pema
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I thought that went out of fashion with OBL!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:30 | Link to Comment trentusa
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Why do u get impeached for lying about a pic of a Weiner on Twitter, but lie about WMD and its cool-no prob.... Weiner had RP's back on the Patriot Act week b4 last

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Arnolds Love Child
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Or knock up your maid. Face it, dude's a weiner.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:12 | Link to Comment knukles
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The circus portion to accompany the disappearing bread.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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Yeah, Fuckhead
The reason for you not doing anything is YOU. Looser outlook you have, grasshopper. Look within. Just go to a public place on Tuesday. Not that hard ... IF YOU GIVE AS MUCH OF A SHIT AS YOU DID WHEN YOU SIGNED UP FOR ZH !
Dipshitt comment.
Just go.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 15:54 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Fed Joobux are accepted all over zee vorld bitchez!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Xibalba
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Javol!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Waterfallsparkles
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They are going about it all wrong.  All they would have to do is Twiter Free Beer at all Government Buildings or public places.  Or, say PARTY at the following locations BYOB. That would do it.  They would have so many people they would not know what to do.

Remember the gal that had a sweet sixteen party and forgot to say private and 1,000 people showed up?

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:59 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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like this?

pARTY @ MY pLACE
FREE BEER!!!
  RSVP:  Waterfallsparkles

 

Dear W_f_s:  LOL!  i'm on my way!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:36 | Link to Comment trentusa
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i pledge to contribute a keg of beer in Dallas to that idea

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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So just do it yourself
Or are you too stupid to figure it out
You keep it non-violent.
You are in charge.
Just do it - in a public place.
Do you have a main public place in town?
Is there a library?
Or just plain chickenshit and paranoid of becoming a leader
Seems so.

Crumbles,
Anonymous is my friend

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:07 | Link to Comment JOHNICON
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Those videos are so lame.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:04 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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There goes the internet.  Well, it was fun chatting with you all.

This is a little bit too...slick.  Too sophisticated for a motley group of hackers.  I speak of the "leadership".  Someone is directing the herd, someone is making the decisions.  And that person is either a master strategist or part of a coordinated effort.

One last note worthy of mention: notice that those who have been agitating for violent public reaction over the past few years are allowed to speak out, while those employing peaceful resistance are abused and persecuted?  Don't look at what they're cracking down upon, look at what they're letting get by.  It's not what they do, it's what they're not doing.  It's not what they say, it's what they're not saying that speaks volumes.  Etc.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:23 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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And keep in mind the Federal Reserve is only one head of the hydra.  Lop it off and you still have a dozen other centers of control to deal with.

Finally, consider this: Ben is not an idiot.  As much as we want to think that he really is just an empty vessel, the reality is he's a minion of Satan carrying out his orders.  Ben knows the Fed can't fix this shit with more liquidity.  Or, maybe he is a fricking moron, but someone in the shadows is telling him to stay the course and the plan will work (or else).  In either case, the plan is deliberate.  The nature of these things is cyclical, yes.  But do you think we're the only ones to know this, or even the first to find out?  Certain men throughout history have understood the cyclicality of time, events, civilizations, etc.  We all know that gold and silver, as an artifact of this particular cycle, are going to eventually go ballistic, so we are gaming the future, are we not?  Why would this be so impossible or impractical to implement at a societal level, to literally game mankind?

Knowledge is power.  You are more powerful than you know, you just lack the knowledge.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:39 | Link to Comment falak pema
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you be good player of chess. I would do a sicilian defense against you if you chumba- wamba'd me at the Empire state demo for doing what they expect me to do.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:02 | Link to Comment old naughty
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Well put, Chum.

And agree 100 percent knowledge is power.

Too many don't know how many others feel same...so acting out add to that...perhaps.

But then it is always in their play book, American summer?

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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More like American Winter where I'm at.  The weather patterns have definitely been altered (most likely from the volcanic spewage globally).

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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"You are more powerful than you know, you just lack the knowledge."

thanks for the reminder.   funny thing is, the more power i perceive, the less i choose to focus on what sneaky tricks the Powerful are up to.  

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:35 | Link to Comment Bob
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There was nothing sophisticated about that.  Perhaps you noticed the mispellings.  Couldn't have taken more than 20 minutes to slap that shit together, although if it's something like a DHS sting operation it would surely have taken longer. 

We don't know.  Guess it's time they make some real news to help us decide, yeah?

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:14 | Link to Comment centerline
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LOL.  I worry about the day the net goes down (or I have to choose between it and eating).  People ought to know that when the shit gets funny, the plug will get pulled... same as all these ME countries.

On the subject of allowing violence but supressing non-violence - I think the stage is being set for a specific form of class warfare.  The one where we all fight against each other instead of turning on the elite.  Yet another divide and conquer technique.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:49 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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+1

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:23 | Link to Comment MarketWatchTerrorist
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Insightful post.  They do actually want violence to spark in the U.S.  They want domestic unrest.  They are more than ready for it.  The SWAT teams are deployed, the police are militarized, NorthCOM is here, they can handle anything a few angry peasants with AR-15's can throw at them.  They are doing everything in their power to spark domestic unrest.  Look at the actions they have taken, read the news, I won't name specifics.

 

As for anonymous etc.  Yes, this will lead to a redesign of the internet from the ground up.  It will be essentially a content delivery network for the big media companies.  The free, open, internet will be a thing of the past.  The new version will be touted as "more secure", but in reality it will only be accessible via a PKI enabled single sign on that grants the government perfect attribution of internet users and access to all of their passwords and accounts (after all, someone has to hold your certs in "escrow").  The elite are terrified that "just anyone" (Hillary Clinton's words) can say "whatever they like" and "not be held accountable" on the internet.  They will destroy the internet, guaranteed.  All politicians are authoritarians, it's only in the West they let you believe you have freedom of speech and a choice in the matter.  But true near anarchy level freedom such as exists on the internet is antithetical to authoritarians and Western elites will destroy it, guaranteed.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:36 | Link to Comment zaknick
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I can imagine what was said about that whore.

The fact that the Facebook and Linkdin (Bill "I wanna vaccinate ur kid" Gates buying Skype) were at Bilberger and are the darlings of the banksters (see recent IPOs) means that they're using the Internet for their own purposes.

I agree 100% with them wanting violent unrest. This is what all that "federal funny money" "drug enforcement" for local and state "law enforcement" really was for.

They control the media .... effectively muzzled Amerika. They do this in all of their client states too.

Ucked

PS In case of bankster induced pandemic, use nano colloidal silver to kill bacteria and virii. The German e.coli has plague pathogens and was lab created to withstand 8 different types of antibiotics. Silver: the all around bankster slayer.

www.utopiasilver.com

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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You know, if They want unrest, We don't and have the numbers to keep it that way. Are you too scared or paranoid to find out ?
Join me in the street for just a day.
It's flag day. I'll be wearing my lapel pin upside down.
American Spring
American Revolution V2.0 !
Crumbles

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:42 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Hey, there's an idea.  Upside down flag pin.

Sorta like a secret handshake.

Where can I get a ZH pin?

Oooh.  I love being part of a clandestine and dangerous cadre.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 13:23 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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 zaknick, if you got some coins lying around, wash them in peroxide, then soak them in filtered water (or drop them in your filter).   DIY collodial silver...cuz shit's gettin expensive yo.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment centerline
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Would love to hear the position of the "junker" regarding the above post.  You know, the expectation here is that ZH has some intellegent posters - and hit & run junking on relevant posts is pretty damn stupid.  Make your case.  Maybe you will find some people change thier opinion, learn something, etc.  Or maybe you will forced to change yours.  Who knows.  If it is just pure "close-mindedness," there are plenty of sites on the internet for folks who prefer useless confirmation and haven't the brass to venture out of their "happy place," bunker, etc. - whatever appies.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 13:49 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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I didn't junk the guy, but I think the idea is silly.  It's popular around these parts, but mostly among people who don't really understand the existing infrastructure.

The problem is not that "they" wouldn't like to create a new form of Internet which is all totally top-down controllable, the problem is that it cannot be done *technically* without massive infrastructure investment.  That investment is simply not coming.

The Internet exists as it does because it is completely decentralized and very simple and cheap to add nodes.  Constructing a centralized "controlled" Internet will NOT be simple or cheap, and society has to continue to operate while you work on building it.  It'd probably take a decade to roll out.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 13:24 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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there's a great article on this in yesterday's NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/world/12internet.html?_r=1&scp=4&sq=in...

best to read between the lines to get the juicy bits.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:21 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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Please keep playin'

- Ned

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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Big talk, but so was Assange about BoA.

Less JAW JAW and more WAR WAR plz!!!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:55 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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+ .50 BMG

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:26 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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My brief experience with Anonymous was not impressive, at least the NYC "branch".  They seemed to have no interest in the FED or their actions.  Also, the fact that any concerted effort to make a bank fail by removing monies in concert with other depositors is illegal and brands you a terrorist makes it less than appealing.  A more subtle strategy would be to put as much money as possible into PM's and cash, removing their interest profits.  This seems like it's already happening on a pretty wide scale, just out of common sense.  It's like that old saying, the second time you try to pillage an entire town they tend to notice, and honestly, theres not much left for these guys to steal.  They've painted themselves into a greedy little corner.  When they've stolen all they can they'll start fighting amongst themselves.

 

All we can really do is stop buying useless shit we don't need. Starve the beast.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:26 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Can you cite the law that makes it illegal to withdraw cash from a banking institution in unison in order to break said institution?

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:32 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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I withdrew a considerable amount of cash from my bank shortly after the crash and the IRS sent me a cute little pamphlet stating exactly that.  I will search online for it, but I get no kick out posting bullshit with an anonymous avatar, there, chumba.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:34 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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I was not trying to rebuke you, if such a law exists I just really want to see it in writing for everyone's edification.  I'd like to see how they would make that illegal and whether it's based on any law at all.  I tried searching (not very hard) but came up empty.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 16:50 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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This is the broad statute the pamphlet cited, but I would have to find it to give the specific language.  It may not even be illegal, more of a scare tactic... to find out for sure, draw over 10K in cash and they'll send you one.  Will keep looking though...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:47 | Link to Comment iinthesky
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It goes back the amended Trading With The Enemy Act of 1917 and the states of emergency. The Federal Reserve system is legally the creditor to the US Government. The United States (Capitalized) means, according to the USC and the CFR and Stat. at Large, except where explicitly defined otherwise:

 

“United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.

and more importantly:


TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002

(15) “United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation; There's a (b) and a (c) as well regarding sub corporations (entities) and instrumentalities of the United States. So anyway-- the debt is owed by the United States corporation and what they did was, in placing us into a status of enemies of the state under the TWEA, they put us all in as surety on the debt and under a soft martial law as well. You'll notice most all courts fly a military flag. If you try to subvert the banks in an organized fashion you will likely be brought in under multiple criminal charges (those are military jurisdiction under title 50) and civil charges. They are breaking all the laws and their own rules because the concerted effort to 'change' this country from a representative constitutional republic to a socialist democracy is almost complete and people have no idea what came before this. They accept because they don't know any different and are not taught any different in the schools. I have studied this quite a bit. The instrumentation for mass scale adjustment to how and what we learn has been ongoing strong for about a century. Planning for much longer than that. In reality they are supposed to follow the rules (meaning the constitution and all their statutes etc. most of which are for commerce and for them to follow, not us) even under the state of emergency which puts us under military rule and jurisdiction of the Unites States. Lincoln put together the Leiber Code for this. Those are the rules of engagement. However, they are not following anything. The article on ZH from the other day regarding the Amerika Police State illustrates this well. There is so much to this its impossible to write it all in a comment. Study the law and history.
Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:26 | Link to Comment Crumbles
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YES. + 1 Trillion
study the law and history

THEN GET YOUR SORRY ASS TO A PUBLIC PLACE on Tuesday.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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You are talking about a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) and other permutations that fall under the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen). Most people think a SAR doesnt need to be filed unless someone is taking out, depositing or moving $10k or more. In fact any activity deemed 'suspicous' (and a broad definition is used for what is suspicious including the reporting person having a bad hair day) can require the teller, manager, account rep, accounting person or anyone in the bank to file a SAR.

Big Brother is watching. Except those who have large sums of money who can curry favor and work around the rules. The SAR is for the little people despite what we are told.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report_(banking)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:54 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Based on your post and Chumbas post about it being a slick organaizational effort. What better way to establish a master list of organized decentralized subversives than direct them to take out their money on June 14th.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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WORD

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:18 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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Based on your post and Chumbas post about it being a slick organaizational effort. What better way to establish a master list of organized decentralized subversives than direct them to take out their money on June 14th.

Not that I don't think something like that is possible, but this sort of fear-based thinking is a big problem. Get the people to be worried about being put on "the list" and it quells a lot of shit. The attitude has to be "fuck them and their lists", as most people are already on them anyhow. Besides, in the near future lists won't even matter...

http://blogs.computerworld.com/18388/homeland_security_testing_mind_read...

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:40 | Link to Comment SilverDosed
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Even better, since almost all public places are under digital video surveillance these days, just hanging out in public on that date could get you put on a list through facial recognition software. This list crossed with a list of ip adressess that access /b/ and other places of "Anonymous" activity, supplied by our ISPs willfully, makes an even better list of "domestic terrorists." Run this list through programs that compile data based on how "threatening" sites may be of course crossed with frequency of visit, duration, how elebarote their attempted security is, how often they search for "threatening" keywords, and how often their face pops up at similar rallies and whatnot and you've just created a list of domestic terrorists in milliseconds. You dont even have to take out their leaders because there are none, just pick out high profile, easy targets, raid their houses, plant bomb-making devices and automatic weapons, sieze power of the internet and scare the shit out of anyone who even thinks about tweeting anything subversive. Paint all "Anonymous" as Columbine-types in the media and its game over.

:takes off tinfoil helmet:

 

I think a false flag domestic terrorist attack in the name of anonymous is more likely though.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:53 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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Stay anonymous when playing with Anonymous: https://www.torproject.org/

And when you need to take it to a whole different level of anonymity: http://www.i2p2.de/

Android users will like this: http://www.whispersys.com/

 

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 05:43 | Link to Comment Reptil
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thanks, have Tor here and also use "trackmenot" will look into the i2p2.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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thanks CD, I was coming up dry.  Getting that pamphlet in the mail gave me the same feeling as hearing "honey, I'm late" in my younger years.  Good thing she couldn't count.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Libertarians fo...
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Keep in mind that any business can file an 8300 form.  Every business that deals in transactions over 10K cash is required by Federal law to file it on the customer. 

That goes for silver, too.  In fact, if your silver dealer sells you silver for cash, the dealer will report you to the government.  If he doesn't, he is in violation of Federal law and will be prosecuted, if caught.

An SAR can be filed by anyone, too.  It's not just the banks who file these forms.

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:30 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Agreed.

The comment I responded to was discussing banks, but it's good for everyone to know that SAR reporting is required of many different businesses that deal with financial transactions such as check cashing stores, broker/dealers etc. I strongly suggest people read about this subject. It's a bit frightening and right out of 1984.

The most frightening part for me for example is that as a broker if I am supposed to report someone it is against the law for me to inform that person that I am reporting them. What's next, children instructed at school to report 'suspicious activity' by their parents? Don't laugh. We are not far from this. 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Bob
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Against the law to inform them you're reporting it?  That's bizarre . . . and I thought the child abuse mandates were strange.  What is the penalty to you if you fail to report?

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I am talking about the SAR, not the requirement to report $10k or greater transactions. My very first comment in this sub thread linked to the wiki on SAR and FinCen. The SAR is much more insidious and most people are not aware of it.....as this thread demonstrates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report_(banking)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Bob
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Now it's getting really suspicious--the SAR link takes us to a "no info" destination . . . at wiki, of all places!

But that's all right, I see you've expanded on the subject below. Thanks, CD. 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Bob
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No, I won't read it!  I trust you, man.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:03 | Link to Comment zhandax
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"as a broker if I am supposed to report someone it is against the law for me to inform that person that I am reporting them"

CD, check the footnote in your own link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report_(banking)
[1] http://www.ots.treas.gov/_files/480024.pdf
Yes, it is a federal offense.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:45 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Thank you for supporting my assertion. I was stating the fact, not asking the question. However, others were questioning my statement or simply confused between the Currency Transaction Report, form 8300 for businesses and the Suspicious Activity Report.

http://www.fincen.gov/forms/bsa_forms/

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 18:54 | Link to Comment Libertarians fo...
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it is against the law for me to inform that person that I am reporting them

I'm not sure this is correct.  More than likely, this is just your company's policy, which doesn't reflect well on your brokerage firm.

The crime is not about telling the person that you are reporting him; you can tell him, and still transact business with him perfectly legally.  Rather, the crime is advising the person not to make a particular transaction because you will be required to report them. Or, similarly, advising the person how to "structure" the transaction to avoid being reported. The crime is called "structuring."  

If an individual asks if you will file an 8300 form on their transaction, it is not illegal to tell them so. It is, however, illegal to show them how to avoid the form.

I don't mean to be trivial, but it's a fairly important distinction.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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You and I are talking about different things. You are discussing form 8300 which is used for the "Report of Large Cash Payments over $10,000 Received in a Trade or Business". You are allowed to discuss this form with the customer, but you can not help them evade the reporting requirements. I am talking about the catch all Suspicious Activity Reports (SAR) which does not have any level of transaction that would trigger the report. All that is required is suspicion on the part of the reporting person. This is limited to banks, brokerages, check cashing business etc.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148857,00.html

Read the law. As a broker I cannot tell the person that I am filing a SAR on them. Period. Full stop. I am talking about the SAR, not form 8300. The justification is that if I told them I was reporting them that this would alert the 'bad guy' that someone was on to him/her and they could disappear. Not saying it is right, just that it is the law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report_(banking)

Do your homework folks. Stop focusing only on the reporting of transactions over $10k and understand that because people were evading that law the SAR was created.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Libertarians fo...
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No.  This just isn't correct. 

The 8300 form doesn't say one thing about informing the client, or otherwise. It is absolutely discretionary.

 

 

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:05 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Instead of narrowly focusing only on form 8300, which pertains only to business, why don't you read the law behind it and all other financial transaction reporting. BTW I said "You are allowed to discuss this form with the customer..." which means it is discretionary. You are also allowed to not discuss this form with the customer. What you can't do is help them evade the reporting.

http://www.fincen.gov/

http://www.fincen.gov/forms/files/fin8300_cashover10k.pdf

As I said above several times we are talking about different things. You are focused solely on 8300. I am talking about the broad laws that support SAR and all other financial transaction reporting. SAR is very insidious and very broadly applied by banks, brokers, insurance companies etc but not all businesses.

http://www.fincen.gov/forms/bsa_forms/#SAR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report_(banking)

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:12 | Link to Comment Libertarians fo...
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What you can't do is help them evade the reporting.

Why are you trying to tell me this? 

I'm the one that just taught you.

If you want to teach me something I don't know, please tell me how to add a picture next to my name.

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:26 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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LOL

Stick around newbie. You'll get the hang of it eventually.

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 16:43 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Noobie noogies!  Yeah!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:40 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Reading's a real challenge sometimes, but check it out:

Notification Prohibited Federal law (31 U.S.C.
5318(g)(2)) provides that a financial institution, and
its directors, officers, employees, and agents who,
voluntarily or by means of a suspicious activity report,
report suspicious transactions to the government,
may not notify any person involved in the
transaction that the transaction has been reported.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Thank you blunderdog.

I prefer to let people find out on their own. People can always find an excuse to disbelieve what they are told by someone else as just hearsay or ideology. Letting the person find it on their own doesn't prevent denial, but at least it makes the denial harder.

Then of course there are those who will believe whatever they want to believe. Absolutely nothing can be 'done' about them and I don't try.

 

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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know your client! law? is that what all of you grease monkeys are spitting about!

 

and who is new guy? and why is new guy fucking with CD? of all people? and were the fuck are the Marines while this goes on? LOL!! never mind the SWAT Team killed them ALL.. let them bleed out in front of their wives and children!!

 

 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 19:02 | Link to Comment RichardP
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This requirement pre-dates 1984.  I have read the IRS Code that covers this issue, although I'm not going to try to remember the Section citation now.  The regulation actually is that, if you have any one or more transactions within a defined period of time that totals $10,000 or more, the organization you were doing the transactions with must report it to the IRS.  This orginally had nothing to do with terrorism. It was aimed at making drug traffikers and other money-laundering activity more visible.

If your nose is clean, it is nothing to even give a second thought to - so long as you've accepted that you live in a county that passes such laws.

As far as it being illegal to notify someone that you have reported their transaction - the way around that is to simply have a flyer that explains the IRS regulation and let every customer have one when they enter your place of business (or whatever).  That way, they will know themselves every time you report them, and you won't have to "not tell them".  Most folks who deal in large sums probably already know this IRS requirement anyway.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I am discussing the Suspicious Activity Report (SAR), not the requirement to report transactions (or a series of transactions) of $10k or greater. The SAR is much more invasive and 1984ish. The SAR was created precisely because people were getting around the $10k report. Or more to the point, to create a Big Brother attitude in the financial community.

http://www.fincen.gov/forms/bsa_forms/#SAR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report_(banking)

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Hulk
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CD, could it be that you are discussing the SAR and not the requirement to report transactions, or series of transactions, of $10k or greater? just askin, ya know...

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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LOL

Maybe. Then again....maybe not. I'll re-re-read the thread and let you know. :>)

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Hulk
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For a few minute there, I was concerned I may have been trapped in an infinite loop!

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:56 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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So I think what you're trying to tell them is that you're discussing the SAR, and nothing else, right?

;)

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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LOL

ECHO......Echo......echo.........

SAR.......Sar........sar..........

FINCEN........FinCen...........fincen............

NOT FORM 8300..........Not Form 8300...........not form 8300...........not........

:>)

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:23 | Link to Comment Blano
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Geez I've never seen people so confused about something (not you CD).

You talk over my head on occasion but sheesh I was able to follow along with you here just fine.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:34 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Kiss ass.

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 23:37 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Smart ass...

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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sexy beast!

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 01:08 | Link to Comment Hulk
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You're scaring me again JW!

Sun, 06/12/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment 55 men
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NICE ASS!.... Maybe thats going the wrong way with this...

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 22:53 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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CD reveals his hypocrisy in this thread.

On the one hand he hopes the Fed will come down eventually:

100 million people doing their own thing will bring it down quickly.

On the other hand he profits from the Fed in a licensed financial activity:

... as a broker ...

One reason the federal government withdrew its currency from circulation and went to FRNs is FRNs are a private currency.

The Fed being the owner of that private currency can make any rules it desires regarding use of that currency.   Those rules do not have to be constitutional since the Fed isn't bound by the constitution.  They can be as tyannical as the Fed wishes.

The Fed can require anyone using that currency in a commercial manner to be licensed and follow all manner of reporting rules, effectively making the licensee an agent of the Fed (and its revenue arm the IRS), working against the rights, liberty, and privacy of the American people.

As a licensed securities broker CD is an agent of the Fed and part of the tyranny he decries.

If CD was sincere he would reject the license and abandon the licensed activity.

Instead he chooses to stay in it and profit from it.

That's CD's cognitive dissonance.  His refusal to recognize his own hypocrisy.

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