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Cuomo Expands Foreclosure Probe, Demands Information From Wells, BofA, JPM, GMAC

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BN  *AG CUOMO EXPANDS PROBE OF NEW YORK FORECLOSURE ACTIONS
BN  *CUOMO DEMANDS INFORMATION FROM BANK OF AMERICA, WELLS FARGO
BN  *CUOMO DEMANDS INFORMATION FROM WELLS FARGO, GMAC MORTGAGE/ALLY
BN  *AG CUOMO ALSO CALLS FOR SUSPENSION OF SOME FORECLOSURES
BN  *CUOMO CALLS FOR SUSPENSION OF SERVICERS ENGAGED IN ROBO-SIGNING

Well, come on, the guy is running for some political office somewhere.

 

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Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:42 | 643828 TooBearish
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yea in a couple o weeks this will be yesterday's news - dow 35,000

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:43 | 643835 NOTW777
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isnt everything basically a dem campaign move?

hope, change and more bs

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:36 | 644300 LowProfile
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It appears his hand was forced

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ANDREW CUOMO, AS HUD SECRETARY, HELPED TO CREATE THE MORTGAGE FRAUD, AND
PREDICTABLY HAS DONE NOTHING TO STOP THE BANKS FROM USING FALSE AFFIDAVITS

New York, NY - Attorney General Candidate Carl E. Person announced today that "Andrew Cuomo has a duty as NYS Attorney General to start lawsuits to stop Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, GMAC, Countrywide, Wells Fargo and other lenders from using the New York courts to foreclose mortgages on homeowners in NYS."

Person explained that "these banks and lending institutions have been filing false affidavits in New York foreclosure actions for several years and have been illegally obtaining judgments of foreclosure and illegally selling the homes of many tens of thousands of homeowner victims." Presently, there are approximately 80,000 foreclosure cases in the New York courts, with more being filed every day.

"Cuomo is trying not to get involved", said Person, "because he helped to create the mortgage fraud when he was Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)."  Person also stated that "Cuomo should have recused himself and let someone else in his Office of New York State Attorney General be assigned the responsibility for ensuring that mortgage foreclosure fraud is stopped in NYS."

Person went on to say that the banks, servicing companies, and other participants in the illegal activities should be penalized by not being able to use the New York courts to commence or pursue any foreclosure actions in New York State as to any residential mortgages, and that the banks should not be able to assign the residential mortgages to anyone else for the purpose of starting foreclosure proceedings in New York State.

What needs to be done, according to Person, "is to require the banks to enter into modification agreements with residential homeowners decreasing the monthly payment to the current low mortgage rate of 4.5% or so and decreasing the principal amount of the loan to 90% of the present value of the property."  As to each property for which this takes place, the bank would then be able to enforce the modified mortgage in the New York courts.

"Everyone can see that Cuomo is unable to serve honestly as New York State Attorney General, and this should disqualify him from becoming Governor of New York State," according to Person.

Cuomo's running mate for NYS Attorney General hasn't done anything in Albany to stop the fraud, and can be expected to do nothing except benefit the banks.

If elected, I would commence the needed lawsuits to stop this devastating fraud on the NYS courts and homeowners.

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For further information contact
Carl E. Person at 212-307-4444; cell: 917-453-9376;
or email at carlpers2@gmail.com

Campaign websites: carlperson.org and carlperson4NYAG.com

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He still has a long ways to go, however. ...Goddamn pesky third party candidates!

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 21:47 | 645050 Bringin It
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Ouch!  You mean Cuomo doesn't love us after all?

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:43 | 643837 rubearish10
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Unfortunately, this is well known to be a non-story. Contra-thought...

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:44 | 643840 ILikeBoats
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Cuomo is an idiot, watch how he will screw it up somehow and avoid dealing with the real issues.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:45 | 643846 NOTW777
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like spitzer?

get some coverage then settle in front of cameras, fighting for the little guy

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:55 | 644130 Miles Kendig
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Learned it from Schumer...

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:44 | 643842 HarryWanger
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At least Diana Olick is still on it:

"Quite the can of worms. Anyone who says that the banks will fix all this in a few months is seriously delusional."

 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:48 | 643854 reading
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She must have done some studying since she was on Kudlow last night saying it was just a paperwork issue...I will I was impressed that at least she learns about the stuff she doesn't know unlike anyone else on CNBC

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:54 | 643883 HarryWanger
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She does seem to actually know what's she's talking about with housing. But I agree with the assessment that it is essentially a paperwork issue.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:50 | 644058 Miles Kendig
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Yep, warrants, indictments, forfeiture and judgment & commitment orders are just paperwork issues as well.  Too bad Wall Street and those that populate it (for the most part) are exempt from such trivial concerns.  No wonder you respect the law and social convention the way you do Harry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5trlioR8K8

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:44 | 644071 Fed Supporter
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Two Faces: Demystifying the Mortgage Electronic Registration System's Land Title Theory


Christopher Lewis Peterson 
University of Utah - S.J. Quinney College of Law

Real Property, Probate and Trust Law Journal, Forthcoming 

Abstract:      
Hundreds of thousands of home foreclosure lawsuits have focused judicial scrutiny on the Mortgage Electronic Registration System (“MERS”). This Article updates and expands upon an earlier piece by exploring the implications of state Supreme Court decisions holding that MERS is not a mortgagee in security agreements that list it as such. In particular this Article looks at: (1) the consequences on land title records of recording mortgages in the name of a purported mortgagee that is not actually mortgagee as a matter of law; (2) whether a security agreement that fails to name an actual mortgagee can successfully convey a property interest; and (3) whether county governments may be entitled to reimbursement of recording fees avoided through the use of false statements associated with the MERS system. This Article concludes with a discussion of steps needed to rebuild trustworthy real property ownership records.

 

 


Foreclosure, Subprime Mortgage Lending, and the Mortgage Electronic Registration System


Christopher Lewis Peterson 
University of Utah - S.J. Quinney College of Law

University of Cincinnati Law Review, Vol. 78, No. 4, 2010 

Abstract:      
At the roots of the worst recession since the Great Depression were unaffordable home mortgages packaged into securities, sold to investors, and used as capital assets by financial institutions. The process of securitization, as well as financial institution over-leveraging associated with it, has been well documented and explored. However, there is one company that was a party to more questionable loans and foreclosures than any other and yet has received virtually no attention in the academic literature. Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc., commonly referred to as “MERS,” is the recorded owner of over half of the nation’s residential mortgages. MERS operates a computer database designed to track servicing and ownership rights of mortgage loans anywhere in the United States. But, it also acts as a proxy for the real parties in interest in county land title records. Most importantly, MERS is also filing foreclosure lawsuits on behalf of financiers against hundreds of thousands of American families. This Article explores the legal and public policy foundations of this odd, but extremely powerful, company that is so attached to America’s financial destiny. It begins with a brief explanation of the origins of the county real property recording systems and the law governing real property liens. Then, it explains how MERS works, why mortgage bankers created the company, and what MERS has done to transform the underlying assumptions of state real property recording law. Next, it explores controversial doctrinal issues confronting MERS and the companies that have relied on it, including (1) whether MERS actually has standing to bring foreclosure actions; (2) whether MERS should be considered a debt collector under the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act; and (3) whether loans recorded in MERS’ name should have priority in various collateral competitions under state law and the federal bankruptcy code. The article culminates in a discussion of MERS’ culpability in fostering the mortgage foreclosure crisis and what the long term effects of privatized land title records will have on our public information infrastructure. The Article concludes by considers whether the mortgage banking industry, in creating and embracing MERS, has subverted the democratic governance of the nation’s real property recording system. Yeah just a paperwork problem.

 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 17:18 | 644456 Eternal Student
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Care to back up that assessment with any sort of reality? Or are you just delusional? The evidence to the contrary is both substantial and impressive. And a bogus assessment does nothing to enhance your credibility.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:33 | 644033 hidingfromhelis
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Yup, just a paperwork issue.  None of the paperwork was completed.  None of the paperwork was recorded in the appropriate jurisdiction.  None of the paperwork exists to establish/maintain chain of title.

No problem, just fabricate new paperwork!

Works for TPTB(me.)

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:28 | 644266 carbonmutant
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It's a paperwork issue until they start changing the locks...

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:48 | 643855 Conrad Murray
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Anyone catch what CNBC was talking about maybe 15 minutes ago in the "Breaking News" thing?  Something about, "there will be no support for any large firms that may fail".  I missed it.  Was it related?

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:54 | 643882 The Rock
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Turning TBTF into NTBTF?  hahahahahahahahaha, in our dreams!!

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:36 | 644042 Conrad Murray
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Damn, those bastards didn't put up the video of that part of their broadcast on the website.  They skipped right over the timeframe(2:30ish).

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:50 | 643862 TooBearish
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Anyone = everyone - we are all being deluded, raped and pillaged and we will continue to be until the food at the local store either quadruples in prices or altogether disappears - meanwhile - who do you like in tonights game?

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:52 | 643872 system failure
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Well, would it be impossible to rig all the voting machines or just a few where needed like in the past. Otherwise, The canidates must be worrying that they are about to be eating shit sandwiches.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:57 | 643891 The Rock
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After the stunt they pulled during 9/11, NOTHING is impossible.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:52 | 643873 unum mountaineer
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hey now...he's political royalty..he's been groomed for the position since birth..check 'em out at helpusa

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:53 | 643878 Shameful
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Yawn, and? This is going to end up like his fight against Ken Lewis.  He will make some statements and then the big boys will warn him off and business as usual.  He looks good for "standing up for the little guy" without any follow through.  To bad we don't have elections every 3 months we cold enjoy this circus year round.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:56 | 643887 NOTW777
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CUOMO DEMANDS INFORMATION FROM GMAC MORTGAGE/ALLY

question one: how can you guys still be in business? were you not BK years ago?

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:13 | 643939 NumberNone
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Government let the banks buy the gun, government provided the ammo, and government cheered the banks on as they fired the gun that killed the economy...now the government gets to sit back and act as judge during the murder trial.  Fucking maddening. 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:13 | 643940 A Man without Q...
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For those who think this is merely a "paperwork issue", the point is if the trustees do not receive all the correct paperwork, they are supposed to force the sponsor of the vehicle to buy back ALL the mortgages.  Failure by the trustee is securities fraud.  

It amazes me how many people are willing to believe these is simply a few technicalities and that the big banks will get away with is, get bailed out by the taxpayers etc etc...

 

http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2010/10/11/foreclosure-fraud-for-dummies-...

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:16 | 643949 taraxias
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Cuomo will get some political mileage out of this and then the whole thing will fall into a news black hole a la Ken Lewis

Nothing to see here, move on.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:29 | 644011 Capitalist Sooner
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Got this in my email today from the NAR (I'm a Realtor).  Side note, sold a home for $265k today as well, was asking $267k, cash and closing Monday.  Wanna bet that is my last sale for the year?

 

Report on NAR’s Meetings with Large Lenders

to Discuss Originations and Servicing Issues

Bank of America Home Loans

Wells Fargo Home Mortgage

Chase Home Mortgage

CitiMortgage

Prepared by NATIONAL ASSOCIATION of REALTORS®

October 12, 2010

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SUMMARY

NAR is meeting with several of the largest national mortgage lenders in an effort to communicate REALTOR® concerns and discuss how we can work together to make significant improvements to both the origination and short sale processes. These meetings mark a new phase of the relationship between NAR and lenders. The goal is to increase our mutual success and help support market recovery.

In each meeting, lenders and REALTORS® have agreed to work in the following areas:

Transparency

REALTORS need to understand each lender’s policies for underwriting loans, valuing property, selecting brokers for REO listings, and deciding whether to approve a short sale.

Service

Having a single point of contact is an extremely important to improve service to the borrower, short seller, and the real estate agent. NAR is urging all lenders to adopt this approach.

Balance

FHA and the government sponsored enterprises (GSEs: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) have become over-focused on safety at the expense of their mission. NAR urges lenders to advocate a return to a reasonable center, now that credit policies have over-corrected.

Speed

When a borrower applies for a loan and receives a conditional approval, the conditions are often impossible to meet. It would be better to decline the loan and allow all parties to move on. Short sale approvals often take months. HAFA and other short sales programs should be implemented quickly.

Accuracy

Lenders are aware that problems related to the application of new appraisal guidelines have skewed some appraisals. NAR continues to raise these issues with the lenders, regulators, FHA, and the GSEs and seek solutions.

Performance/Compensation

Real estate professionals work extremely hard and for many months on a successful short sale. NAR urges lenders to make commissions policies more transparent and to agree not to reduce commissions at or shortly before closing. At the same time, NAR acknowledges that lenders waste time processing short sales that are not real offers, and we urge our members not to participate in this practice.

Lenders also are monitoring performance of REO listing brokers and will take steps to resolve problems.

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DETAILED REPORT

In response to intense concern raised by REALTORS® about the state of the housing and mortgage markets, especially with respect to lender policies on originations, short sales, and REOs, NAR’s elected leadership met with the leaders of Bank of America Home Loans on July 7, 2010, and of Wells Fargo Home Mortgage on August 26, 2010. NAR will follow up with a meeting with Chase Home Mortgage on October 26, 2010, and with CitiMortgage on a date to be determined.

These meetings give NAR an opportunity to discuss with the four largest lenders the problems REALTORS® face every day when working to get deals to the closing table.

Both banks sought to assure NAR that they understand the problems our members are facing and are working hard to address them. BofA seeks to provide a great customer experience, solutions for distressed homeowners, and, of course, profitable growth. Wells Fargo briefed NAR on its originations approach, including the responsible lending principles that were adopted at the beginning of the crisis and resulted in three years of essentially no growth at the company. However, those principles have laid the groundwork for more growth now and fewer distressed mortgages to resolve.

The banks do not debate that there is a lot of room for improvement. NAR is not yet seeing improvement, and communicated that reality to the banks. We have resolved to work more closely together on solutions.

NAR discussed a number of key principles for addressing existing problems:

Transparency is Key

? Too often, from the REALTOR® standpoint, lender and servicer decisions are made in a “black box” and appear to be inconsistent and, at times, irrational. While NAR understands that lenders have rational policies in place, these are not well-understood outside of those entities. If the lenders and the GSEs disclosed more detail about their policies for underwriting loans, valuing property, selecting brokers for REO listings, and evaluating and approving a short sale, REALTORS® would be able to close more deals—to the benefit of everyone involved. As noted by lenders, for the most part, the underwriting policies are determined by FHA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.

? NAR has offered to post links on Realtor.org to bank information, so that our members can learn more about what they need to do to move a contract to closing in the shortest possible time. NAR has already posted Wells Fargo’s REALTOR® Short Sale Guide:

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http://www.realtor.org/wps/wcm/myconnect/e5dd7d804e01f067be0abf4eb13ae60...

Bank of America has launched a new site which houses extensive short sale education materials and webinars for real estate professionals:

Bank of America’s Real Estate Resource Center

http://realestateagent.bankofamerica.com

Bank of America’s consumer brochure: “Selling Your Home in a Short Sale”

http://homeloanhelp.bankofamerica.com/en/short-sale.html

Bank of America’s site about the HAFA Program

http://homeloanhelp.bankofamerica.com/en/home-affordable-foreclosure.html

? Transparency alone will not solve the problems. NAR also has urged lenders to assess their requirements and, wherever possible, simplify their policies and rules for implementing these policies.

Need for Speed

? Questionable delays characterize many segments of today’s mortgage market. The Lenders report they have hired and are continuing to hire more staff and otherwise working hard to speed the process. At least one of the lenders has set up teams that work exclusively on purchase loans (as opposed to distressed sales, including short sales), so first time homebuyers and other buyers can have their applications processed expeditiously. Lenders are also working with the mortgage investors (who own the mortgages and set the rules, including when to approve a short sale), seeking broader authority for the servicer to decide how to handle distressed properties. With most short sales, the final approval still remains in the hands of the investor and other third parties, which can contribute significantly to lengthy delays. With broader authority, servicers will be able to establish more uniform, and more transparent, rules that will expedite decision-making.

? Having a single point of contact is extremely important from the standpoint of the borrower, short seller, and the real estate agent. Some lenders use this approach, but NAR will continue to urge this practice throughout the industry. Many times, the customer service representative who answers the 800 number must start from ground zero

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and reassess every step that has been taken so far. A tremendous amount of time is wasted with this approach.

? Although many borrowers are preapproved for a loan, that preapproval often is meaningless. As one bank explained, regulators do not allow a preapproval to equal a commitment because, without knowing the particular property and its value, there is too much uncertainty for the lender to make a commitment.

? When a borrower applies for a loan and receives conditional approval, the conditions are often impossible to meet. It would be better just to acknowledge that fact and decline the loan, so all parties can move on.

? Wells Fargo offers a closing guarantee. For qualified purchase transactions, it promises to close the loan on or before the closing date in the purchase contract or send the borrower a check for the first month’s principal and interest payment.

Make Credit Available to More Creditworthy Borrowers

? The GSEs and FHA have tightened credit so much in response to the housing crisis that they now are contributing to the sluggish recovery. NAR believes everyone involved in the lending industry should reassess current policies and modify them so more creditworthy borrowers are approved for loans.

? NAR, of course, does not support making loans that are not consistent with sustainable homeownership. Along with a few others, NAR started warning the industry in 2005 about the extreme riskiness of payment option adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs), teaser rate ARMs, and no-doc loans, but these warnings had little effect. However, when mortgages insured by FHA or purchased by the GSEs in the last few years are described as “pristine,” we think FHA and the GSEs are becoming over-focused on safety, at the expense of their missions. NAR urges a return to a reasonable center.

? Credit for condo purchases is a special problem. Extra fees and a series of policy restrictions have doomed whole buildings in many areas to long-term vacancy. NAR has experienced some success in this area. Fannie Mae has raised the unit cap on investor borrowing and both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have adopted special rules for the unique challenges faced in the Florida markets. Much more needs to be done. If no progress is made, the damage to the condo market will hurt the value of properties already insured by FHA or owned or guaranteed by the GSEs, resulting in more losses to their portfolios, not fewer.

Make Appraisals More Accurate and Compensate Properly

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? REALTORS® are extremely concerned about inaccurate appraisals. Too often, appraisals fall short of the value REALTORS® believe is supported by the market. This can be a particular problem in a market that has bottomed or started to recover. Markets with large numbers of distressed sales (short sales and REOs), also present challenges for appraisers, who should not include distressed sales as comps without adjustment. REALTORS® report too many examples of appraisers working in their markets without knowing that market (the “geographic competency” issue). Bank of America shared its new geographic proximity policy which it believes will help alleviate this issue.

? Appraisers complain that since the Home Valuation Code of Conduct (HVCC), their compensation has been slashed as the importance of Appraisal Management Companies (AMCs) has increased. Bank of America stated that it compensates appraisers within industry norms.

? Lenders are well aware of these issues and report they are working to address these problems. A sound appraisal is in the interest of everyone involved in the transaction, including the lender, the seller, and the buyer. NAR will continue to raise these appraisal issues with lenders, regulators, FHA, and the GSEs and seek solutions. The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act is landmark legislation for the appraisal industry and will affect many of these issues. Among other things, the legislation requires regulation of appraisal management companies, establishes new standards for appraisal independence, and sunsets the HVCC.

Short Sales and REOs (Bank-Owned Properties)

? The Home Affordable Foreclosure Alternatives Program (HAFA) short sale program is not working—at least not yet. The front-line servicing staff knows little about it, and HAFA is resulting in extremely few short sales. This may be because it is overly complex and rigid, or because the servicers are simply not able to keep up with all the programs and the frequent changes made by the Treasury Department, FHA, and the GSEs. Wells Fargo estimates that about 90 percent of HAFA applicants are unable to complete a HAFA short sale because the property, the loan, or the borrower does not qualify. The most common reason is that the property is vacant and HAFA requires owner occupancy (with a limited exception for some job transfers). Lenders acknowledge that the main reform of the HAFA program—identifying, up front, the required minimum net proceeds—is an important principle that can improve their own proprietary programs.

? On the positive side, even if HAFA does not work, the lenders all have their own short sales programs. Wells Fargo encourages real estate professionals and homeowners to submit requests for a short sale as soon as possible so work can begin to determine if a

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short sale is appropriate. Bank of America is undertaking a cooperative short sale pilot program that includes identifying the required net proceeds up-front to facilitate both marketing the property and approval of the short sale once an executed sale contract is obtained. Bank of America reported that it has reduced the average time for processing a short sale to under 60 days.

? One problem lenders face in the short sale arena is weeding out “straw buyers.” Lenders believe they are wasting time processing short sales that are fake offers to determine what offer price the bank will approve when a real buyer makes an offer. While this behavior is understandable in light of the extreme frustration with the delays getting a decision whether to approve a sales contract, it is inappropriate. NAR urges its members not to participate in this technique.

? Last-minute attempts to reduce commissions are a continuing source of problems with short sales. HAFA seeks to address this issue by setting the commission up front, so the broker may decide then whether to accept the amount, attempt to negotiate it with the servicer, or decline the listing. In proprietary short sales, lenders have various policies, and private mortgage insurance companies and investors also weigh in. NAR continues to make the point that it makes no sense to cut the compensation of the real estate professional, who has had to work extremely hard and for many months on a successful short sale. NAR urges lenders to make commissions policies more transparent and to treat real estate professionals fairly by agreeing not to reduce commissions at or shortly before closing.

? REOs also are a critical problem facing the housing market. Sometimes, real estate brokers have so many REO listings that they are unable to market and show the property, assess all offers, and give the best offer to the bank. Like short sales, until the last few years, REOs were an extremely rare problem and the ramp-up at the banks has been a challenge. Lenders have assured NAR that they are monitoring the performance of REO listing brokers and taking steps, when appropriate, to resolve problems.

? REO volume is likely to increase as more homeowners fail to qualify for a loan modification or default on modified loans. These homeowners will then typically seek a short sale. If that does not work, the bank will end up owning more properties either through a deed-in-lieu of foreclosure or a foreclosure.

Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act

? Lenders discussed potential unintended consequences of the Dodd-Frank Act. The risk-retention provisions will be given close attention. While NAR has long touted the benefits of standard 30-year and 15-year fixed rate mortgages and traditional ARMs (with

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reasonable annual and lifetime caps), we do not think those should be the only mortgages on the market. Consumers have a wide variety of needs and circumstances. For those who can appropriately take the risk, other types of mortgages can be appropriate.

? Another potential risk is the possibility of over-regulation to protect consumers so extensively that they will end up having to pay much more for mortgages and other financial products.

? The Dodd-Frank Act creates uncertainty and higher costs for the lending industry, and it will take years before it is fully implemented and all the important questions are answered.

NEXT STEPS

The meetings between NAR and the lenders have been extremely amicable. They have served the objective, which is to communicate REALTOR® concerns, better understand how we are both working on these problems, and discuss how we can work together to make significant improvements that change the reality for REALTORS®, lenders, and servicers.

Better communication and education on both sides are needed, and both sides commit to work towards improvements in these areas.

These meetings make a new phase of the relationship between NAR and lenders. The goal is to increase the success of both of our businesses.

 

Thought you might enjoy this, even though it's long. 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:15 | 644198 Ripped Chunk
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Birds of a feather are flocking outside.........

Wed, 10/13/2010 - 02:47 | 645477 StychoKiller
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The Home Affordable Foreclosure Alternatives Program (HAFA) short sale program is not working—at least not yet. The front-line servicing staff knows little about it, and HAFA is resulting in extremely few short sales. This may be because it is overly complex and rigid, or because the servicers are simply not able to keep up with all the programs and the frequent changes made by the Treasury Department, FHA, and the GSEs.

A prime example of the US Govt exacerbating a problem into an inflammable problem!

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:33 | 644031 williambanzai7
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What a bunch of fucking morons

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:56 | 644132 Capitalist Sooner
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Agreed - the real estate industry has been very, very slow to grasp the full implications of all this.  Most Realtors and home builders have very little idea that this is going on, unless they specialize in foreclosures.  They don't even know the fraud(s) that have been perpetrated.  The title companies have a clue because their legal department is trying to figure out how to not get sued into oblivion, which is of course futile.  The county tax assessors and DA's have absolutely no clue about this in most parts of the country, nor are they aware of the massive amounts of recording fees that have been avoided.  The foreclosure buyer that closed in the last couple of years has no idea he may have bought nothing but a mortgage on a stolen property, and is happily watching Dancing with the Stars or Monday Night Football.  The banks are busy shredding everything under the sun that can implicate anyone, and trying to figure out which low level sap is going to get blamed and jailed.

I'm getting out - as soon as my listings are sold, I'm done, after more than a decade and 3-5 million a year in sales.  I knew we had a problem with bad loans, but I had no idea we had such a massive level of fraud going on with the MBS situation.  Happily, a total of zero of my sales have been foreclosures, since I work new and custom homes, so I can sleep at night.  This makes me sick.

The building and selling of homes should be a noble profession.  Helping a family find the right home for them - close to work, in the school district they want, with the right number of bedrooms and a yard for the kids, and most importantly SOMETHING THEY CAN AFFORD has always been the goal I have been reaching for.  Most of the time, I was able to succeed.  As my parents taught me, a good deal is when both sides are happy at the end.  If that didn't happen, even though the sale went through, I felt like I failed.  These slimy, thieving bastards have destroyed one of the foundations of our country - property ownership.

Who knows when we will recover.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:11 | 644193 williambanzai7
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You know of course what the average IQ is over a broker? They would never make it through the ZH login script, even though all those negative numbers are based on the latter.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:34 | 644289 carbonmutant
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OK, +1 for that.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:20 | 644220 Ripped Chunk
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"Most Realtors and home builders have very little idea that this is going on"

Most of the experienced ones understand title issues and law. They see that it is game over for the near term. Still in shock they are in stage 1: denial. What will they do next won't hit them until the credit card bills come in in January. Then look for many suicides.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:40 | 644052 Miles Kendig
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What's it like to want Cuomo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2nuOneeQ5M

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:54 | 644122 AcidRastaHead
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CUOMO DEMANDS MORE PAPERWORK

CUOMO DEMANDS TO READ PAPERWORK

CUOMO DEMANDS PAPERWORK ROBOTREADER

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:22 | 644246 Rotwang
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The chain of naming was subverted so long ago that you cannot reasonably expect to dig this out of the fog. (my wife is prime example)

"land" is not "real estate" is not "REAL ESTATE".

"REAL ESTATE" is an abstraction existing under a couple of gossamer gloves of variable transparency. "Watchamafuggit" is not the "city of Watchamafuggit" is not the "City of Watchamafuggit" is not the "CITY of WATCHAMAFUGGIT".

They even post the signage for their duplicity. Go to "county". Read the signs. One label here beside the door, a similar but different etched into the glass of the door.

"land" is no longer transacted

 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:34 | 644291 AcidRastaHead
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Sorry, why are you digging your wife out of the fog exactly?

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 17:14 | 644449 Rotwang
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goes to the immediacy of propaganda effectiveness.

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:35 | 644296 carbonmutant
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 Somebody's gonna be cutting down a lotta trees to meet those demands...

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:37 | 644307 Djirk
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once again lawyers win big...who runs the government...oh yeah, lawyers

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:43 | 644326 Fearless Rick
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Hey, I'm happy Andrew has stepped up, as I live in upstate NY, am in a home which has been foreclosed upon (Disclosure, so I don't get junked too hard or often: It's not my house. I inherited it from my father who put a Countrywide mortgage on it - loads of fraud from appraisal onward, etc.).

I also found out today by searching court docs that I was robo-signed in Texas, by Sandra Williams. Here's the sad truth about the banks and how they operate (as if anyone here needs further proof). Well, the document in question is an assignment from MERS to BAC Home Loans servicing, signed by Miss williams and nobody else, which brings up the first question: Shouldn't there be more than one signatory to a mortgage assignment?

I mean, there's an assignor and an assignee, right? OK, so the doc state the assignment is effective November 7, 2008. Then the document is dated March 3, 2010 and notarized by Liliana Morcan on the same date in Addison, TX, right near Plano, home of BAC HLS.

Served on March 29, so they took three weeks to get it started, since then, nothing, and now they are in violation of the state mandate that says they have to conduct a mandatory buyer-lender conference within 60 days of the filing of the affidavit of service (it's been 6 months), so actually, the Supreme Court of the State of New York isn't even following its own rules and procedures.

But, it's the mortgage assignment that really will hang them. If the assignment was made on November 7, 2008, why did it not get notarized until March 3, 2010, and filed with the county clerk here in NY on 4/21/2010. Seems fishy, no?

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 17:14 | 644451 DollarMenu
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FWIW-

I copied the following from another blog.

"Beastie" posted-

"More foreclosure info - put your tinfoil hats on


I did a little sleuthing tonight to see who owns MERSinc.org and the first place is to do a Whois lookup to see who registered the website.
I was surprised that they didn’t make it private. They registered it so long ago that privacy was a pay me more option. Guess they forgot about it.
Anyway the first address for tech contact etc. was here.
1595 Spring Hill Rd
Vienna, VA 22182

A quick google maps and this company www.ebrinc.com/ is located at this address.
If that doesn’t look like a govt. think tank I don’t what one is supposed to look like.

So the big mystery of where the MERs database is physically located is solved as far as I am concerned."

You folks are very good a ferreting things out,

maybe there is something here worth chewing over?

 

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 22:41 | 645162 tom a taxpayer
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Will there be no end to the rampant criminality? My fear is that Cuomo and the other State AGs will just produce "settlements" with the bank mafia rather than the RICO convictions and 20 years-to-life hard time prison sentences that justice demands.

Wed, 10/13/2010 - 08:03 | 645630 harveywalbinger
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Interesting video.  Damning words from Cuomo's own fucking yap: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64

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