CVN 77 G.H.W. Bush Enters Persian Gulf As CIA Veteran Robert Baer Predicts September Israel-Iran War

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Sun, 07/17/2011 - 16:10 | 1464353 Cognitive Dissonance
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Nothing like a good shooting war to distract the plebs from their full time unemployment and their empty purses.

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 16:35 | 1464440 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Jist send the unemployed to war!  Solves that problem. 

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 17:57 | 1464672 wanklord
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The only way Barry & Associates (including the Zionist warmongers) can justify a war against the Islamic Republic of Iran is by staging another false flag attack on continental US: most likely a controlled nuclear explosion (dirty bomb) targeting a major urban concentration killing dozens of thousands of civilians. This operation will be carried out by the CIA in partnership with Mossad and MI6 to later on be blamed on AlQaeda working in conjunction with elements of Iran's IRGC and Pakistan's ISI. Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue; the Obama administration will need the unconditional support of these brutes in order to further their agenda.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 18:11 | 1464712 Missiondweller
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You're either paranoid, an idiot or both.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 18:52 | 1464832 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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no fuck you

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 19:49 | 1464955 chumbawamba
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Mon, 07/18/2011 - 01:16 | 1465497 Harlequin001
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This is why America will never have an empire; you're just not smart enough.

You are about to be dragged into another very expensive war to defend THE most strategically important piece of real estate on the planet bar none (and I don't mean Manhattan) when you've just spent god knows (and you don't) how many hundreds of billions of your not so hard earned (yet) dollars taking out the one man that had Iran and its nuclear ambitions contained; Saddam. No body is or was better placed to take out Iran's nuclear facilities than him had you kept him on side instead of pulling  the oil rug.

Didn't you do well. George Bush is obviously a very bright cookie because for the life of me I see only stupidity in this whole series of events when the alternative was so much cheaper, and so much more effective.

Let's not try and lose perspective here, Jew haters or not, to not support Israel is to lose control of the ONE piece of real estate that allows easy passage of trade by land from Europe to Africa, the Middle East and Asia and vice versa. Everything passes by land through that area unless you wish to go north through mountain passes to China and Russia. It has been that way since Rome and Byzantium and long before. Nothing changes. 

Some of you need to look past your Jew hating ways to the bigger picture. Every body fights to control that strip of land, everyone, because he who controls it controls trade and commerce throughout the whole continent.  If you don't control it or ally yourself with its rulers you sail, or now fly...

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 02:41 | 1465560 AnAnonymous
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Every body fights to control that strip of land, everyone,


Who is that everybody/everyone? Is it everyone/everybody or is it as it is done in the US what you get once you have withdrawn all those who do not fight for this piece of land?

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:19 | 1466933 Harlequin001
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There can never be peace in the Middle East, it is strategically too important.

Establishing Israel there was a great effort and gesture by the British in support of a race of people hounded and persecuted throughout history, but it cannot survive for long and the Jews will sadly be homeless again...

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 04:17 | 1465621 Hobbleknee
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The US military occupies over 150 countries. If that's not an empire, what is?

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:11 | 1466905 Harlequin001
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The US military doesn't occupy any country other than the US.

You don't pay rent in an empire, neither do you lease bases or ask permission to come and go. You install a government of your own and impose your own rule of law, just like the French did, the British more than anyone and the Spanish, the Dutch and Portuguese to name but a few. America just buys its friends and pays everyone else's bills.

and fucks off when they're told to...

That is not an empire.

NHexdt yopu'll be telling me you think the UK is part of the US empire because you have a base there. That is so idiotic it defies belief.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 09:31 | 1465985 chumbawamba
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What?  Go eat a cock, spunky.

- Chumblez.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:12 | 1466915 Harlequin001
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and there was a chance of a debate but alas, and as usual there is no point...

No thanks.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 10:21 | 1466144 I did it by Occident
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I agree.  But this time around it's all about the OIL!  The US alliance with Israel is more real politik than the Israel Lobby.  Israel (the place) is the US beachhead into the ME, basically a backup plan if the arabs/persians decide to shut off the oil (for whatever crazy reason), or blockade the straits/canals.  If they were to do that, then the US would have limited time to retake (and keep) the oil fields.  Having an ally in the region with 500k troops (including reserves) would be useful to have to buy time until backups arrive. 

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:50 | 1465315 Partisan
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Yea, that was pretty dumb.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:44 | 1465463 Harlequin001
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I agree, somewhere on this wonderful planet there is a tiny village missing its idiot...

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 01:12 | 1465490 Problem Is
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"You're either paranoid, an idiot or both."

STFU Gestapo Fascist Netanyahu wannabe...
or sock puppet cock sucker of AIPAC...

The Difference Between an Idiot and a Moron?
A moron Zionist THINKS he knows what he is talking about...

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 03:54 | 1465611 luigi
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"You're either paranoid, an idiot or both."

There is another possibility: him being right.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 18:51 | 1464826 Vlad Tepid
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You've got it all figured out.  Aren't you smart!  Here's a gold star.  <sarc>

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:08 | 1465422 JW n FL
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Mon, 07/18/2011 - 06:54 | 1465689 BigDuke6
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JW your anger with lobbyists is an inspiration to us all.

in australia there was an ordinary bloke voted to parliament in the 1960's.  His manifesto was 'i'm going there to keep the bastards honest'

would it work in the usa?


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:43 | 1466785 JW n FL
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Thanks Duke! (Surfs Up Bro!! Hows the Marlin Fishing?


1. I think that the entire financial structure that allows for Government to be purchased needs to be completely routed out of America.

2. It will take real people who care about the Long Term Concerns or America (or other) as a Nation to stick with and fix / re-wire the system.

3. I hope that we are lucky enough to have people who can NOT be bought like Don Chipp!


I have looked at moving down under, going to stay with my Jail Bird cousins does not bother me.. the Fishing is FANTASTIC, the Surfing is FANTASTIC and the People as well are FANTASTIC!


But I would have to be forced to make the move, in other words I will have to have my head beaten in time and time again to where I believe that America can NOT be saved from the Lobby Whores their owners and the Federal Reserve.


I have a feeling that I will end up dieing trying to fix my BeLoved Country. Honestly I would rather be fishing with you guys Down Under and ignoring the issues.. but I unfortunately am not wired that way. If there is work to be done I am not one to walk away or shirk the load.


God Bless You Guys / Gals Down Under! You have a really beautiful island!! I dont envy very many things.. but your island is truly Gods Hand!

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:11 | 1464990 bigkahuna
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Brutes with guns - even worse!

I agree with your theory. There would have to be a false flag primer of some sort to get the USA involved in anything initiated by Israel.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:46 | 1465044 Max Hunter
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100% spot on.. The Americans will not endorse another war in the ME without a false flag attack. Plan accordingly.. Bibi has the power to make it happen..

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 21:38 | 1465161 dark pools of soros
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and the first casualty would be the debt ceiling - in time of war, the printer is mightier than the bomb

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:57 | 1465481 Harlequin001
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I don't think the war's going to make much difference to the printer issue...

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:12 | 1464991 macholatte
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So it's Netanyahu who's going to start a war. Wow. What a surprise. Iran has been a nice little lamb, not doing anything except grazing in the desert. No threats to murder all the Jews and Americans and Christians, no threats to build nuclear weapons, no practice firing long range missiles. Just the best damn folks in the world. Yea. Nothing one sided about that report. Right wanker? You fit right in with all your hate speech. You must be one of them transplanted Muslim parasites sucking off the socialist tit in London, huh?


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:49 | 1465056 Max Hunter
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Can you provide some evidence about this?.. I've seen multiple interviews with Ahmadinejad.. He's never said anything like that.. Sounds good though. I'll give you the standard C+ for repeating the standard lie propagated by Zionist trash and American morons.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 21:52 | 1465182 FeralSerf
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He was hoping for something better than C+ to bring back to his handlers at the ADL.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 03:10 | 1465496 Ahmeexnal
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It is the bankrupt Europe/US who desperately need to go to war with Iran. The CIA/Bilderbergs will create a false flag iranian attack on Israel in order to provoke a defensive response. Remember that the power elite still wants to finish the job they have been unable to conclude since...thousands of years ago. Their latest failure was with their austrian born puppet during WWII. Remember the ayatollahs are also puppets very much the same like Saddam was. They are armed by the same death merchants who have always sold weapons to both sides on every conflict: the royal families of "enlightened" europe.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:39 | 1465262 mtomato2
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Sun, 07/17/2011 - 21:41 | 1465162 dark pools of soros
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screw the Zionists..  Haaretz would be considered anti-jew if it was printed in America

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:58 | 1465482 DaveyJones
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So true

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 21:44 | 1465172 FinalCollapse
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We absolutely have no reason to meddle in the Middle East. Let Israel and its neighbors to resolve their differences, the same way they were doing since biblical times. Bring all f* aircraft carriers home, and save some money. Whoever wins the fucking war there - we will make friends with them.


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:51 | 1465470 Harlequin001
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Which do you think costs the most, to have an aircraft carrier overseas or have an aircraft carrier in home waters?

If you want to save money you need to sail your aircraft carriers into open waters and sink 'em. Alternatively you could sell them to your enemies for a profit and scream about what a good deal you got, and then shout even louder about all the jobs you created with the proceeds trying to develop a missile that can sink them when they are used to attack you...

Bringing carriers home doesn't save you any money...

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 20:22 | 1465015 Michael
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Sounds like you've been studying the American art of war.

I wonder if the Iranians have enough fire power to take out the Dimona nuclear facility and weapons factories. That should make for a nice size dirty bomb.

You know Israel has 300+ nuclear weapons don't you?

Israel's Dimona Nuclear Weapons Factory In 3D

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 21:58 | 1465203 FeralSerf
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"It is the kind of thing where we know how it starts, but not how it will end."

"Who knows what the Iranians really have?"  Reminds me of the Clint Eastwood movie where the other guy "thinks" Clint is out of bullets.  Clint is suggesting he find out for sure.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:54 | 1465477 Harlequin001
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WMD, loads of them, and can hit you in 20 minutes if that's what govt wants you to believe. And no one goes to prison when you die for it as a result, even if they aren't there...


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 01:35 | 1465519 cosmictrainwreck
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don't mess with the's Zohal, I guess

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 01:41 | 1465526 Harlequin001
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It just gets bigger and better doesn't it.

I believe 'em, honest...


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 22:19 | 1465248 msamour
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I was thinking that too. Iran does notneed nuclear weapons, all they have to do is fire the bulk of their long range missiles straight at the nuclear plants, and there you go, no more Israel. No wonder thousands of Israelis are leaving every year.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:35 | 1465451 Michael
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The Israeli people are totally psychotic.

You begin to understand why when you see them living amongst their own kind in the same place for the past 45 years in that God forsaken arid strip of rocky land over there with the way they are.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 06:06 | 1465663 stev3e
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I never thought of NYC as arid or rocky.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 01:15 | 1465495 Problem Is
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+5... On the correct analysis, Wanklord...

I hereby <UNJUNK> you...

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 01:33 | 1465518 The Heart
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Not so off base becuase the radiation is making people into Gumbys.


Dark Nights of the Zombie City Dwellers

Dear friends, and those of you that have some brain capabilities left to think with. What many people do not know is how radiation affects the human body, and more specifically, the brain.

This is a huge issue that must be explored and researched as well kept track of because we are seeing theses affects on the environment and people from all over in real time. More real reporting is needed from those who suffer and documentation of all the stories too. The word must go out to help people and solutions are what should be sought in the long run.

We are all no doubt being slowly irradiated. It has been coming since March and before that, and still continues to come down in the entire northern hemisphere poisoning everything in its path. There are many evidences of this that have since been covered up by the EPA and other sorted crony govt stooges. The major efforts to conceal and cover up this radiation and it’s effects has turned into a cottage industry in the lame stream media. The babylonic govts do not want you to know that they are allowing you to slowly die.

What we are seeing and continue to get many reports of are the affects of the radiation from the testimonies of many people. There are a lot of people feeling fatigued, angry, suffering confusion, loss of memory, and angst all around. Cognitive problems in general.

After some checking around, we find indeed that there are links to all these symptoms with the exposure of radiation. What is most interesting are the many reports of people getting angry and being mean. This is because the spirit of the body knows it is being poisoned and killed off and is conflicting inside causing many people to be off kilter, or in the state of Tilt!

Slow down and get ‘Zen-like’ is the new philosophy as we take slow purposeful steps going about the day. No hurry to die is the thinking now and material things are not as important as spiritual warrior words, deeds, and actions on the daily path.

Cancer is often the result and the damage it does to the brain results in a lot of the same symptoms people all over and more especially on the west coast are reporting. Could it be possible that people are suffering from the beginnings of the slow term kill-off already? Does anyone think there is truth in the medical industry around this?

From this link:

“Some of these changes may be subtle, with the patient seeming "off" to their loved ones. In other cases, brain cancer patients may become quick to anger and display extreme personality changes. Since the brain damage as a result of cancer growth is very difficult to repair, these personality disruptions may persist long after the cancer has been treated, leading to lifelong personality changes.”

The radiation is getting deeper into the food systems world wide. There is no escape from the fact that this is happening. What is escaping is the truth about the real overall effects on everything and everyone planet wide. People, you better start thinking as One Specie instead of divided dis-eased sheeple because you are about to be wiped out! This is a good story and source of information from Japan with helpful hyperlinks:

Here is a very interesting older report about airborne radiation. This is more about mobile phone radiation, but there are some correlating similarities and questions can be raised about the fact that all this mobile radiation runs rampant in the big cities and it just hit this writer that the modem is putting out the electromagnetic energies from there too. Answer-> all electromagnetic devices are off at night to sleep well.

But oh, so you have towers, cell phones, modems, radios, computers, and TV’s, and all sorts of radiation emitting devices and then the fallout from leaking reactors in the US, and to top all that, the Fukushima catastrophe all hitting the country now?:

So, if radiation is causing stress, and that results in conflict within and without, then it stands to reason that this also has a devastating effect on our systems:

We all now know the brain is affected by radiation and some of the causes. Taking brain supplements like Ginkgo Biloba and Detoxing to stay as clear as you can is good. Anyone with better advice is invited to do so and add to this post. Here are a few more links to get you started on a healthy learning pattern. All we can do, is all we can do.

There are things we can do to protect ourselves also. What we do not know is what the slow continued build up will exactly cause and how long it will take until either people fall over from sheer stupidity, or they tear each other apart in anger and confusion. You add some food shortages into those big city equations and well, we may be looking at the Night of the Zombie City Dwellers coming to a theater near you soon!

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 02:29 | 1465524 The Heart
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This is not the first time you have shared this and it sounds like it comes from a place of knowing. Thank you for putting the plan out so easily.

As far as people being 'Steered' into submission and easy control, see responce above.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 18:22 | 1464747 Xibalba
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Worked for Nazi Germany, albeit temporarily.    

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:14 | 1465432 John Rotten
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Israel is modern Nazi Germany. 


What does that make the U.S. (us) though?  Apparently well on our way to facism.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 00:55 | 1465479 Harlequin001
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Does Israel have rendition? Just curious...

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