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Dallas Fed's Fisher Stunner: Admits Worries Fed Has Created Nothing But Bubbles

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The war of words continues, this time with Dallas Fed's Fisher. More quotes from the fourth spoke in the Kocherlakota, Plosser, Hoenig, hawk sanity quadrangle. In his just released speech we read this stunner: "In my darkest moments,
I have begun to wonder if the monetary accommodation we have already
engineered might even be working in the wrong places."
Aside from adding Fisher to the Shirakawa, Hildebrand suicide watch, it is notable that the Fed is finally doubting the actions of the Fed, and realizing it is creating neither employment, nor moderate inflation, but just bubbles, bubbles and more bubbles. And here is why Fisher may soon be looking to resign: "A great many baby boomers
or older cohorts who played by the rules, saved their money and
migrated over time, as prudent investment counselors advise, to short-
to intermediate-dated, fixed-income instruments are earning extremely
low nominal and real returns on their savings. Further reductions in
rates earned on savings will hardly endear the Fed to this portion of
the population
." Hardly indeed. And next time it won't be the Pentagon.

More highlights:

  • Not clear that economic conditions warrant further 'deployment of Fed's arsenal'
  • Further Easing Rrisks Driving Down Returns For Savers
  • Efficacy of further accommodation using non-conventional policies not clear
  • Much debate still at Fed on pros and cons and costs and benefits of further accommodation
  • Economy barely cruising above stall speed
  • Removing tax and regulatory uncertainties would make any further monetary easing unnecessary'

Full Fisher speech before the New York Association for Business Economics

Rangers, Yankees and Federal Open Market Committee: One Game at a Time

Thank you, Steve (Gallagher). I am incredibly
touched that you and the New York Association for Business Economics
are holding this lunchtime rally for the Texas Rangers baseball
franchise.

I have been asked to
talk about the economy. I realize that many of you are here looking for
clues as to what will emerge from the next meeting of the Federal Open
Market Committee (FOMC). You might get a sense of what shapes one FOMC
participant’s perspectives and inputs this afternoon. But let me say
right up front that as in the American League championship playoffs,
the outcome of the next FOMC is yet to be determined.

Just as bookies in
Vegas adjust their lines for the playoffs, the oddsmakers on the Street
are constantly reassessing their positions regarding monetary policy.
They change with new developments in the economy (the Fed’s Beige Book,
for example, will be released tomorrow); with every public
pronouncement of individual FOMC members; with insights proffered by
the daily wire services and editorials in the Sunday editions of the
nation’s finest newspapers (and good regional ones like your New York Times);
and with the insights of consultants and analysts, some of whom even
claim, spuriously, to have access to the internal deliberations of
Federal Reserve policymakers. But until the committee meets, nothing is
decided.

You should bear this
in mind given the recent speculation about the prospect for further
quantitative easing or the shape and nature of forward policy guidance:
No decisions have been made on these fronts and will not be made until
the committee concludes its deliberations at its next meeting on Nov.
3.

Well, there is your
“take home” from lunch! But given that we have some time left, if you
will indulge me, I would like to give you one man’s view on the outlook
for the U.S. economy. I do so with considerable humility being in a
room full of major league economists. And because the professional
economists among you know as well as I do that John Kenneth Galbraith
was not all that far off when he divulged that “economic forecasting
was invented to make astrology look respectable.”

So what do I divine
from contemplating the celestial bodies of the economy? And how might
this shape my approach to monetary policy?

Late last year and in
early 2010, we had a burst of growth led primarily by inventory
adjustment. Real inventory accumulation rose from a minus $162 billion
in the second quarter of 2009 to a plus $69 billion in the second
quarter of 2010, a swing of $231 billion that accounted for
approximately 61 percent of the 3 percent real GDP growth that we saw
over that four-quarter period. With inventories now better aligned with
sales, it is doubtful this variable will provide much economic
propulsion in the coming quarters.

Turning to final
demand, the weak pace of recovery in U.S. export markets and political
and budget realities mean that little near-term growth impetus can be
expected from net exports and government purchases. Only consumption
and nonresidential fixed investment are likely to make positive
contributions to the expansion. In these sectors, there is no reason to
believe that growth will be notably strong, though the latest retail
numbers surprised to the upside despite the warm weather, which
typically retards fall sales. Residential investment, meanwhile, was an
outright drag on growth last quarter, reflecting the hangover from
expiring tax incentives; now, the foreclosure debacle has added a
serious wrinkle to the potential for a clearing of that crucial market.
On net, then, I see only modest third-quarter growth at a level
slightly above 2 percent, with a gradual rate of acceleration to what
would best be described as moderate growth after that.

Contemplating this
scenario, the brow begins to furrow. We are barely cruising above what
we at the Dallas Fed call “stall speed.” Annual real gross domestic
product (GDP) growth below 2 percent has predicated every recession
since 1970. If we continue to barely clear the 2 percent hurdle, the
pace of economic recovery will be insufficient to create the number of
jobs the United States needs to bring down unemployment significantly
in the foreseeable future. If we cannot generate enough new jobs to
sufficiently absorb the labor force over the intermediate future, we
cannot expect to grow the final demand needed to achieve more rapid
economic growth.

In the summation of
the recent FOMC meeting, released after we concluded our deliberations,
it was crisply noted that “employers remain reluctant to add to
payrolls.” At the same time, the committee reported it saw no prospect
on the foreseeable horizon for inflation?the bête noire of all central
bankers?to raise its ugly head; neither was the bête rouge of deflation
highlighted. Instead, in more convoluted syntax, the majority view of
the committee was summarized as follows: “Measures of underlying
inflation are currently at levels somewhat below those the committee
judges most consistent, over the longer run, with its mandate to
promote maximum employment and price stability.” The statement
concluded by saying that the FOMC is “prepared to provide additional
accommodation if needed to support the economic recovery and to return
inflation, over time, to levels consistent with its mandate.”[1]
Chairman (Ben) Bernanke, who I might add is the only person empowered
to speak on behalf of the entire committee, repeated this verbatim in
the penultimate sentence of his speech last Friday in Boston: “In
particular,” he said, “the FOMC is prepared to provide additional
accommodation ifneeded to support the economic recovery and to return inflation over time to levels consistent with our mandate.” And
he concluded by saying: “Of course, in considering possible further
actions, the FOMC will take account of the potential costs and risks of
nonconventional policies, and, as always, the committee’s actions are
contingent on incoming information about the economic outlook and
financial conditions.”[2]
In short, the Chairman said nothing in Boston that hadn't already been
said in the FOMC's most recent pronouncement or in his earlier speech
in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

Let me give you my two
cents on some of the potential costs and risks that the Chairman has
been referencing in his recent speeches.

I very much share the
concerns of my colleagues who fret that unemployment is not receding
quickly enough. (I spent too much of my childhood with a father who,
bless his soul, often struggled to find work.) Given that we at the Fed
are mandated to maintain price stability and create the monetary
conditions to encourage maximum employment growth?at a time when
inflation is “somewhat below” what the committee as a whole judges
appropriate?I instinctively understand the impulse to put the monetary
pedal to the metal to try to move the needle on employment growth. The
problem is that, presently, the efficacy of further accommodation using
nonconventional policies is not all that clear.

When the Federal
Reserve buys Treasuries to drive down yields, it adds money to the
financial system. In sharp contrast to the depths of the Panic of 2008,
when liquidity had evaporated and we stepped into the breach to revive
it, today there is abundant liquidity in our economy. The excess
reserves of private banks parked at the 12 Federal Reserve Banks exceed
$1 trillion. Nonfinancial corporations have an aggregate liquid-asset
ratio running at a seven-year high; cash flow from current production is
running above total investment expenditure; cash as a percentage of
market cap is extraordinarily high. Credit availability remains a
challenge for small businesses, but only 3 percent of small businesses
surveyed by the National Federation of Independent Business reported
financing as their top business problem in October.[3]
And reports of lagging receivables or the stretching out of payment
terms that were so prominent only one year ago in the corporate supply
chain have become as scarce as hens’ teeth.

However one may view
the prominence of credit constraints for small businesses, it is
unclear whether broad monetary actions will alleviate them; it might be
more appropriate, perhaps, for the Treasury to undertake a targeted
fiscal initiative to improve credit availability to small businesses.
For mid- and large-size nonfinancial firms, capital is fairly abundant
in America, and it is unclear how much they would benefit from lowering
Treasury interest rates.

The vexing question
is: Why isn’t this liquidity being utilized to hire new workers and
reduce unemployment?
Why is it that, as pointed out in Alan Greenspan’s
op-ed in the Oct. 7 edition of the Financial Times, the share
of liquid cash flow allocated to long-term fixed asset investment has
fallen to its lowest level in the 58 years for which data are
available?[4]
If current dramatically high levels of liquidity and low interest
rates are not being harnessed to add to payrolls or expand capital
expenditures, would driving interest rates further down and adding more
liquidity to the system through Fed purchases of Treasury securities
induce U.S. businesses and consumers to get on with spending it?

The intrepid
theoretical economist would argue in the affirmative, the logic being
that there is a tipping point at which the market becomes convinced
that money held in reserve earning negligible returns is at risk of
being debased through some inflation and, thus, should be spent rather
than hoarded. Hence, the appeal of the Fed’s showing a little leg of
inflationary permissiveness.

There is some valid
theory behind this approach. Yet, my soundings among those who actually
do the work of creating sustainable jobs and making productive capital
investments?private businesses, big and small?indicate that few are
willing to commit to expanding U.S. payrolls or to undertaking
significant commitments to expand capital expenditures in the U.S.
other than in areas that enhance the productivity of the current
workforce. Without exception, all the business leaders I interview cite
nonmonetary issues?fiscal policy and regulatory constraints or, worse,
uncertainty going forward?and better opportunities for earning a return
on investment elsewhere as factors inhibiting their willingness to
commit to expansion in the U.S. As the CEO of one medium-size business
put it to me shortly before the last FOMC, “Part of it is uncertainty:
We just don’t know what the new regulations [sic] like health care are
going to cost and what the new rules will be. Part of it is certainty:
We know that taxes are eventually going to have to increase to get us
out of the fiscal hole Republicans and Democrats alike have dug for us,
and we know that regulatory intervention will be getting more
intense.” Small wonder that most business leaders I survey, including
those at small businesses, remain fixated on driving productivity and
lowering costs, budgeting to “get fewer people to wear more hats.” Tax
and regulatory uncertainty?combined with a now well-inculcated culture
of driving all resources, including labor, to their most productive use
at least cost?does not bode well for a rapid diminution of
unemployment and the concomitant expansion of demand.

So, it is indeed true
that some economic theories would lead one to believe we can shake job
creation from the trees if we were to further expand our balance sheet,
and/or induce greater final demand if people and businesses with money
in their pockets believe the central bank will tolerate inflation
somewhat “above” levels consistent with our mandate. Yet, to paraphrase
the early 20th century progressive Clarence Day?the once-ubiquitous
contributor to my favorite magazine, The New Yorker?“Too many (theorists) begin with a dislike of reality.”[5]
The reality of fiscal and regulatory policy inhibiting the
transmission mechanism of monetary policy is most definitely present
and is vexing to monetary policy makers. It is indisputably a
significant factor holding back the economic recovery.

One of my most
intellectually credentialed and also pragmatic colleagues, the
president of the Minneapolis Fed, Narayana Kocherlakota, has noted that
a deep-seated problem is structural unemployment. He believes that we
do not have a workforce adequate to meet the needs of the
high-value-added businesses that define the U.S. “Firms have jobs but
can’t find appropriate workers,” he says. And he concludes, “It is hard
to see how the Fed can do much to cure this problem.”[6]
I would add that if this were true, then the matching of job skills to
needs is doubly complicated if businesses feel handicapped by the
current tax and regulatory regime or see other countries as better
places to expand in a globalized, cyber-ized economy that encourages
investment to gravitate to optimal locations for enhancing return on
investment.

While its sports coverage is second to none, my favorite part of the New York Times
is the obituary section. I read it daily not only because it is
superbly written, but because it offers nuggets of wisdom learned by
others who have gone before us. If you had read the obit of former Fed
Governor Sherman Maisel two weeks ago, you might have noticed a
relevant quote from his repertoire: “In my view, changes in monetary
policy may be desirable, but they should be used only to a limited
degree in attempts to control movements in demand arising from
non-monetary sources
.”[7] There are limits to what monetary policy can accomplish if fiscal policy blocks the road.

Of course, if fiscal
and regulatory authorities are able to dispel the angst that businesses
are reporting and put together a credible plan for deficit reduction
that does not choke off growth, further accommodation might not even be
needed. If job-creating businesses are more certain about future
policy and are satisfactorily incentivized, they are more likely to
take advantage of low interest rates, release the liquidity they are
hoarding and invest it robustly in hiring and training a workforce that
will propel the American economy to new levels of prosperity. This
would render moot the argument for QE2, or a second round of
quantitative easing. The key is to remove or reduce the
tax and regulatory uncertainties that act as an impediment to
businesses as they respond to increases in final demand. I think most
all would consider this to be a far more desirable outcome than being
saddled with a bloated Fed balance sheet.

In my darkest moments,
I have begun to wonder if the monetary accommodation we have already
engineered might even be working in the wrong places.
The Treasury
International Capital, or TIC, data released yesterday morning show
that foreign interest in buying Treasuries remains robust. Yet, far too
many of the large corporations I survey that are committing to fixed
investment report that the most effective way to deploy cheap money
raised in the current bond markets or in the form of loans from banks,
beyond buying in stock or expanding dividends, is to invest it abroad
where taxes are lower and governments are more eager to please. This
would not be of concern if foreign direct investment in the U.S. were
offsetting this impulse. This year, however, net direct investment in
the U.S. has been running at a pace that would exceed minus $200
billion, meaning outflows of foreign direct investment are exceeding
inflows by a healthy margin. We will have to watch the data as they
unfold to see if this is momentary fillip or evidence of a broader
trend. But I wonder: If others cotton to the view that the Fed is eager
to “Open (the) Spigot,” as proclaimed on the front page of the Oct. 6 Wall Street Journal,[8]
might this not add to the uncertainty already created by the fiscal
incontinence of Congress and the regulatory and rulemaking excesses
about which businesses now complain?

In performing a
cost/benefit analysis of a possible QE2, we will need to bear in mind
that one cost already incurred in the process of running an easy-money
policy has been to drive down the returns earned by savers, especially
those who do not have the means or sophistication or the demographic
profile to place their money at risk further out in the yield curve or
who are wary of the inherent risk of stocks. A great many baby boomers
or older cohorts who played by the rules, saved their money and
migrated over time, as prudent investment counselors advise, to short-
to intermediate-dated, fixed-income instruments are earning extremely
low nominal and real returns on their savings. Further reductions in
rates earned on savings will hardly endear the Fed to this portion of
the population
.
Moreover, driving down bond yields might force
increased pension contributions from corporations and state and local
governments, decreasing the deployment of monies toward job maintenance
in the public sector. Debasing those savings with even a little more
inflation than what is above minimal levels acceptable to the FOMC is
also unlikely to endear the Fed to these citizens
. And if?and here I
especially stress the word “if” because the evidence is thus far only
anecdotal and has yet to be confirmed by longer-term data?if
it were to prove out that the reduction of long-term rates engendered
by Fed policy had been used to unwittingly underwrite investment and
job creation abroad, then the potential political costs relative to the
benefit of further accommodation will have increased
.

Another issue to be
considered before embarking on a program to purchase additional
long-term assets is whether such programs violate the basic tenets of
the bedrock Bagehot principle, named for the 19th century British
leader who “wrote the playbook” for central banking. Walter Bagehot
advocated that when responding to a financial crisis, a central bank
should lend freely at a penalty rate to anybody and everybody on good
collateral. This was the principle we followed in addressing the Panic
of 2008, and it was the right thing to do. While none of us are
satisfied with the current pace of economic expansion and job creation,
presently it is not clear that conditions warrant further crisis-like
deployment of the Fed’s arsenal. Besides, it would be hard to build a
case that the main recipient of further credit extensions, namely the
U.S. Treasury, and borrowers whose rates are based on historically low
spreads over Treasuries have difficulty accessing the capital markets.

Part of our
cost/benefit analysis should include where the inertia of quantitative
easing might take us. Let’s go back to that eye-popping headline in the
Wall Street Journal: “Central Banks Open Spigot.” The article
led off with a discussion of the Bank of Japan’s announcement of a new
bond-buying program. It prefaced this by noting that this round of the
Bank of Japan’s quantitative easing was done “anticipating that the
U.S. Federal Reserve will resume large-scale purchases of U.S. Treasury
bonds and [in light of] strong domestic political pressure to spur
growth and restrain a rising yen.” Referring to the fact that the BOJ
would be buying real estate investment funds and exchange-traded funds,
in addition to government bonds and corporate IOUs, it then quoted the
governor of the bank, Masaaki Shirakawa?a thoughtful man and,
incidentally, a member of the advisory board of the Dallas Fed’s
Globalization and Monetary Policy Institute?as concluding: “If a
central bank tries to seek greater impact from its monetary policy,
there is no choice but to jump into such a world.” The article went on
to say: “Central bankers elsewhere are strongly indicating that they
are preparing to open credit spigots to reflate their economies at a
time when fiscal policy is stalled or contracting.”

My reaction to reading
that article was that it raises the specter of competitive
quantitative easing. Such a race would be something of a one-off from
competitive devaluation of currencies, a beggar-thy-neighbor phenomenon
that always ends in tears. It implies that central banks should carry
the load for stymied fiscal authorities?or worse, give in to
them?rather than stick within their traditional monetary mandates and
let legislative authorities deal with the fiscal mess they have created.
It infers that lurking out in the future is a slippery slope of
quantitative easing reaching beyond just buying government bonds (and
in our case, mortgage-backed securities). It is one thing to stabilize
the commercial paper market in a systematic way. Going beyond
investment-grade paper, however, opens the door to pressure on a
central bank to back financial instruments benefiting specific economic
sectors. This inevitably leads to irritation or lobbying for similar
treatment from economic sectors not blessed by similar monetary
largess.

In his recent book titled Fault Lines,
Raghuram Rajan reminds us that, “More always seems better to the
impatient politician [policymaker]. But any instrument of government
policy has its limitations, and what works in small doses can become a
nightmare when scaled up, especially when scaled up quickly.…
Furthermore, the private sector’s objectives are not the government’s
objectives, and all too often, policies are set without taking this
disparity into account. Serious unintended consequences can result.”[9]

While all of us are
impatient with the unemployment situation, it is worth bearing Rajan’s
wry observations in mind. There is a great deal of legitimate debate
still to take place within the FOMC on the subject of quantitative
easing and the pros and cons and costs and benefits of further monetary
accommodation. Whatever we might do, if anything, must of course be
consistent with long-term price stability. But we also must avoid the
unintended consequence of adding to the nightmare of confusing signals
that job creators are already receiving from other government
authorities.

So, what will we
likely decide at the next FOMC meeting? As with the American League
championship, you’ll find out when it’s over and only then.

Before concluding, I
want to return to the TIC data I mentioned earlier. Yesterday, I asked a
trader of sovereign debt how he interpreted the recent numbers. His
answer: “We are still the best-looking horse in the glue factory.” It
was a witty reply. But it was disturbing. This is America. Whether we
are Ranger or Yankee fans, Texans or New Yorkers, we have been blessed
to live in the most prosperous nation on earth. We cannot now accept
simply being the “least worst” among major economies. We must be better
than the rest.

This cannot be
accomplished by the FOMC alone. Whatever we do with monetary policy
will be of limited utility, if not counterproductive, unless it is
complemented by sensible fiscal policy that restores confidence and
puts the American people back to work. We are not glue-factory horses.
We are thoroughbreds. It’s time to put us back on track.

Thank you.

 

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Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:07 | 661726 NOTW777
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"I have begun to wonder"

 

what took so long 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:20 | 661773 unwashedmass
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you really have to wonder about these guys...i mean, we're going to have millions of seniors eating cat food in cold houses this winter .... because "there is no inflation"....that the Fed will admit to....

so the SS is smaller than ever

and the CDs they depended on are paying nothing,

and have the potential to literally evaporate before their eyes....

You wonder how guys like Fischer can possibly justify what they are doing.....

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:30 | 661815 Shameful
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They have the same morality as a Dimon, a Paulson, a Fuld, or a Blankfein.  There is no moral question for them.  Even if such thoughts would emerge they would be defeated with "They have it coming, if they there were smarter then they would speak out or stop me".  We cannot try to put morality on our "betters", morality is for us not them, just like laws.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 06:50 | 663715 Diggintunnels
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And that is the true nature of the FED and the assholes who run it.  The thinking goes something like this: We will punish those who do not buy the assets we tell you to and you will obey or suffer the consequences. 

A wise man once said "If the America people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 16:12 | 662449 chopper read
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simply to give this speech reeks of incompetence.  Is he an intern learning on-the-job? 

He'll probably write a book when he retires about the whole fiasco and make millions.  talk about the follies of privilege.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:43 | 661866 midtowng
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Looks like the Fed has been living in a bubble, not just blowing them.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:44 | 661870 B9K9
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They have always known. It's laughable to presume that those who excel in advanced mathematics (a prerequisite for any post-grad economics degree) are ignorant about the underlying nature of compound interest.

The really interesting aspect of this story are the macro level implications. That is, consider the Condor's job focused on open source intelligence. Now, let us use this model here - why are these kinds of stories now appearing? Who is authorizing their release? To what purpose do they serve?

I have long asserted that the power-elite can make money only two ways: (a) lending; or (b) repossession. Moderate inflation drives (a), while deflation engages (b). In no case does currency destruction via hyper-inflation enter into their P&L models.

Since organic loan growth driven by moderate (or extreme as the present case may be) monetary/fiscal stimulus has proven to be a failure, that only leaves option (b). In order for option B to be utilized towards maximum effect, it needs the herd to be driven off a cliff. That is the role of the captured media.

OK, back to square one: why are these kinds of reports now surfacing? When that paid whore Cramer begins to question outloud about some very basic assumptions, you might be inclined to think the top has been signaled.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:04 | 661951 Larry Darrell
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I thought about this while driving last week and thinking about the possibilities of QE2.  The following occurred to me:

They like their power, and since they have been outright stealing in broad daylight as of late via the "market" with no repercussions, why would they not continue to do so.  They have been cashing in on the POMO, HFT, etc. ramp job (witness the insider selling to buying ratios).  Why would they actually follow through with QE2 now.  It would have the adverse effect of crushing the purchasing power of their newly acquired gains.  And since they know that QE2 is "priced in" but not coming, just switch sides and short the market to make more gains on the way down.  And if in fact "retail" is out and leaving quickly, then where are all of the recent new highs in short positions coming from.

It's really quite easy when you think like they do. Manipulate market higher through rumor of debasement coming, cash in at the top, don't debase the currency, and cash in on the way down through shorting.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:19 | 662038 hedgeless_horseman
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And who is going to say anything?  Nobody.  That is who.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:17 | 662248 TheJudge2012
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If they don't follow thru with a substantial degree of QE2, it will then be harder for them to manipulate the market based on their hints.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:40 | 662331 the rookie cynic
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This is an interesting hypothesis to me. Let's think out loud for a second.

In the context of deflationary macro-environment (which is the dominant theme), the Fed has essentially created a mini-bubble of inflation in commodities and stocks (minor theme). The "market" is a mini-bubble they can expand and contract at will with POMO, HFT, QE1, etc. at will.

All the talk of QE2 could be a massive head fake (or a head and shoulder fake if you're technically inclined). If they postpone further easing, the markets collapse, and the Big Boys can short all the way down on a wave of crashing equities and a concentration of wealth in the dollar.

They can dance in time, while the rest of us stumble over our feet, because we don't exactly which tune they're gonna play next, but they DO.

Just a thought.

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 21:55 | 663221 MacHoolahan
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Nothing too mad there rookie... The bulk redistribution of wealth to the hyper-rich relies on the mis-allocation of effort, time, resources, worry, blood, etc.... by the masses. That way nothing is "earned" for the long term - it was all a bubble, "he worked hard but it was doomed", "they lost their savings in the crash" etc... etc...

Keeps the treasure flowing one way,

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 17:03 | 662666 Future Jim
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"In no case does currency destruction via hyper-inflation enter into their P&L models."

Have you considered that the fed could buy government debt, and then the government could spend this money in way that transfers it to the "power-elite" - such as government contracts or bailouts? This may cause inflation or even hyper-inflation. Everyone's dollars would be worth less because there would be so many more dollars, but a big percentage of the number of dollars would have been transferred to the "power-elite". The result would be repossesion/confiscation through inflation. The "power-elite" would have taken some of the value from each of our dollars.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:57 | 661913 High Plains Drifter
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Mea culpa  just doesn't cut it at this point.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 16:46 | 662574 chopper read
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i feel certain that they are well aware that bloggers are calling for their heads (literally).  CIA is all over these chat rooms relaying information to the executive branch.  President communicates with Fed Chairman.  Out comes the damage control ("we're only human just like you") rhetoric.  

If Ron Paul's voice begins to gain traction amongst the elderly as it relates to a Fed audit, then it may just happen; they definitely do not want this.  In fact, the 'put back' to BofA is likely in preperation for this event, and an admission that they cannot re-inflate the value of the toxic MBSs on their balance sheet.   

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:08 | 661729 mynhair
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Note to Fed:  Suicide is painless.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:11 | 661737 SDRII
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that would require honor

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:24 | 662065 tmosley
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Where's Hannibal when you need him?

           Hannibal - Hanging Scene         

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:11 | 661988 midtowng
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I want to hear more about this:

"if it were to prove out that the reduction of long-term rates engendered by Fed policy had been used to unwittingly underwrite investment and job creation abroad"

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:08 | 661730 NOTW777
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We are still the best-looking horse in the glue factory.”

 

more like the one with the biggest gov't liars

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:09 | 661731 RobotTrader
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They are forcing investors out of commodities and trying to get the mo-mo players to jump back into banks, retail, and REITs.

It is the only way to avoid hyperinflation, boost consumer sentiment, and get the "Perpetual Positive Feedback Loop" going once again.

So easy for the PPT to manipulate price action by chart painting.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:31 | 661822 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How well will this work?  If it works even minutely, for how long?  There is not even any monie on the sidelines, what does the President's Working Group on Financial Markets expect?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:00 | 661908 B9K9
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On & on we go about how the Fed is plotting to destroy the very essence of its being, the global reserve status of the $USD. It could possibly work if the $USD didn't happen to be a store of wealth, as well as a unit of account. Even then, currency destruction could possibly work if the store of wealth was primarily held by US citizens.

Unfortunately for the hyper-inflation thesis, military control of critical ME oil reserves requires a moderately stable dollar. In addition, unless we just want to tear off the mask and admit to the world that we're no different than Nazi Germany by proceeding directly to naked conquest/occupation, we need a stable dollar as a means of exchange to induce oil producers to take our paper without too much fuss and continue the charade for the consuming public.

People who view the Fed in a vacuum, as if they have no other considerations than that of merely raping US citizens (which of course they have zero compunction), fail to take into account the larger macro picture.

I feel like a broken record, but our national policies, including a subset, the monetary regime, are all about OIL. No oil, no civilization - it's really that simple.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:04 | 661946 Shameful
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But how can they keep the dollar stable?  Let us assume that they decide to stop printing, no more money.  How on can the budget be brought into line?  The level of austerity it would require would send people rioting, even Americans.  Particularly since virtually all cuts would be on the social side as we need the military to protect the ME oil.  So that leaves us with a Treasury default.  Such a default would have vastly negative effects on the trust based dollar as well as funding the military machine.  How can they pull off what would be revolt level austerity, and not lose any confidence in the dollar?

I understand you are saying they have to, ok I'm game how can they pull it off?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:39 | 662154 SheepDog-One
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'The level of austerity would send even americans to rioting'...these idiots better hope like hell they dont riot. Because if AMERICANS start rioting all over the place its a far different game than Greece or France riots.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:52 | 662189 Shameful
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That's just it.  The level of austerity is basically no services no SS or other goodies from Uncle Sugar, he will need it all for the corporate welfare and military empire.  So I KNOW that a lot of us young folks are pissed at the social security system.  Now take away the payments to our parents and grandparents but force us to keep paying in and that will dial up our anger to say nothing of our elders.  They would need the military to suppress the people, and without going totally evil, like laying siege to cities and burning out civilians they won't be able to suppress them.  And remember most cops are locally funded, so they would be going down as well and I have to assume that cops don't want to be robbed either.

Now Americans are totally passive but if you yank away all of their goodies and back them into a corner, what can be expected?  Have to ask what is safer; acting like a tyrant in the ME to seize oil, or fight a rioting America in a tyrannical way?

Now with the hyper inflation scenario it's a lot more confusing to the general populace as seen in Weimar and much easier to scapegoat people.  In that scenario it's much easier to scape goat "evil speculators" or "dirty foreigners" then doing that when troops have to put down protests about cuts.  And it's not like they would not profit from a hyper event, after all the big boys touch the money first, when it spends like real money.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:50 | 662184 uno
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Why not Mexico or Venezuela oil instead.  There is so many false flags with

both, the cartels in Mexico, and Russia saying it is giving nukes to Venezuel.

Also, Cuba would make a nice base for the Air Force and Navy and location

for a major refinery and storage.  Also the oil in the Gulf is better (sweeter) than the ME.

Also makes for an easier sell to the US public and a heads up to South America.

Good for the US oil corporations, NAFTA etc...

I believe we (US) could make up for the amount we get out of the ME, don't

have the latest stats, will have to go look for them.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:56 | 662196 Marla And Me
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Looks like B9K9's views are well reasoned:

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct10/great-game10-10.html

The MIC runs the show.  Like the author said, until the benefits of controlling oil start creating diminishing marginal returns, it will be the ultimate game in town...

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:45 | 662352 Assetman
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Or perhaps...

B9K9 = Charles Hugh Smith

Trick or Treat!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:28 | 662311 -273
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No oil, no civilization - it's really that simple.

 

Nothing resembling our current one anyway. Oil is not going to run out anytime soon, it will however come up short of demand, and then shorter, and shorter. How this plays out remains to be seen, but at that point monetary policy will most likely have even less effect.

I thought Fisher spoke some truths, and posed some interesting questions as you yourself have too.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:32 | 662110 SheepDog-One
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RIGHT yea ignite the degenerate alcoholic gambler trait in bankrupt american unemployed folks again....its REALLY gonna work! Sure! HASTA work! Long live BubbleMania, all hail!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:34 | 662119 SheepDog-One
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HA RoboTrader so much for these idiots 'Animal Spirits' nonsense and their believe in their Pied Piper ability to control what people do! As usual, they overestimate their own abilities and underestimate everyone else!
When someone has been ripped off in a certain casino, they dont go back, ever!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:10 | 661736 SDRII
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as thatcher said - don't go wobbly on me

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:13 | 661748 merehuman
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Fed. i will gladly help out and lend you my very sharp swords. No need to return and you have ALL my interest

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:17 | 661760 99er
Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:46 | 661875 firstdivision
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Very solid resistence at 1163 there.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:18 | 661767 Tortfeasor
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He's not a voting member, is he?  Thought he was an alternate.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:15 | 662884 NotApplicable
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Has a voting member ever come out against the boss's plan?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:31 | 662922 Rainman
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Throughout the period 1930-33.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:20 | 661772 LeBalance
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It would be "luvly" for William Banzai to edit this Lawrence Welk Video:

"I am forever blowing bubbles" as Lawrence introduces the members of his

orchestra.  William might edit some strategic faces into the video and change the narrative slightly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aSJhb78R-o

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:20 | 661774 Ms. Erable
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That's right, get 'Mercans back to work - the coffers are running dry, and they're running out of other countries to fleece. Ponzi be needin' new suckas.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:21 | 661779 TooBearish
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Fisher's ducktail hair style is tell - all business up front, party in the back.....

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:35 | 661781 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Good cop/bad cop...who cares, if King Fischer had worried, why did he not do something about it sooner?  Sort of like the Chinese raising rates; we will see how much time that buys.  His tone sounds like he is about to ride into the sunset; like someone said above, it would be honorable to face the day, but these people have none.

I still think my time line is right in target, November 15th.  A couple weeks after the elections for everyone to figure out playing musical chairs while the Titanic is sinking is moot.  They should have all gone and gotten a life boat.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:33 | 661789 bada boom
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"A great many baby boomers or older cohorts who played by the rules, saved their money and migrated over time, as prudent investment counselors advise, to short- to intermediate-dated, fixed-income instruments are earning extremely low nominal and real returns on their savings."

Well, just to take the other side, what about all the Gen X'ers and others who played by the rules of investing in stocks and buying houses like so many financial advisers suggested.

Rules, there are no rules, just fools.


Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:25 | 661791 lsbumblebee
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"I never imagined the consequences, ya see. That's why I'm a Federal Reserve policymaker."

- Richard "Numskulled" Fisher

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:25 | 661792 threefingerscam
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"adding Fisher to the Shirakawa, Hildebrand suicide watch,"

LOL TD, u r 2 funny

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:31 | 661819 truont
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 "A great many baby boomers or older cohorts who played by the rules, saved their money and migrated over time, as prudent investment counselors advise, to short- to intermediate-dated, fixed-income instruments are earning extremely low nominal and real returns on their savings. Further reductions in rates earned on savings will hardly endear the Fed to this portion of the population."

Ah, I see the reason for the disconnect between the Dallas FED and the FOMC.

Dallas FED's Fisher seems to think that the FED is accountable to the people of this nation.

Silly Fisher--the FED is not accountable to the people.  It's a shell company for an international cabal of banksters who want to run the world.  Someone missed the memo.

Someone send Fisher a copy of the Creature from Jekyll Island or something.

I wish we had more idealists like Fisher in the Federal Reserve system...

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:16 | 662018 Bob
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That's the funny thing here--Fisher comes off as an idealist!  You can imagine how much pull he has if he talks like that at Fed parties. 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:40 | 662943 Rainman
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yeah, that good looking horse at the glue factory story must be a real knee-slapper. 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:16 | 662894 NotApplicable
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Meh, file it under "controlled dissent" and walk away.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:30 | 661830 michigan independant
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You destroy Classes by subsidized Govenment edict coddled in avarice from Interest. http://www.opensecrets.org/

Small wonder that most business leaders I survey, including those at small businesses, remain fixated on driving productivity and lowering costs, budgeting to “get fewer people to wear more hats.”

Working Corporate you understand may the beating's continue until moral improves. Moral hazzard has destoyed much credability.

http://www.auburn.edu/~garriro/ppsus.htm

the graphical analytics demonstrate the inevitability--but not the timing--of the subsequent bust. 

Well we seen it coming to survive. We are not back to levels pre crisis in some area and that is not going to change for some time is it.

They cannot figure this out and they are still going in the wrong direction in this new predicated market cycle we provide products to. Overall what I have found in our sector is the new normal is 20 percent less post bubble for now in a few areas. We are in 31 countries – 2,100 patents – 20,000 products and we are not the enemy. 

 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Feds-Lockhart-Quantitative-rb-3269262294.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=5&asset=&ccode=

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank President Dennis Lockhart said on Tuesday that further easing by the Fed has to be large enough to help boost demand, and purchases of $100 billion of securities a month would be a possibility.

"If we're going to pursue another round of quantitative easing, it has to be a large enough number to make a difference," Lockhart said in an interview on CNBC.

The disconnect from reality is staggering.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:34 | 661832 SpeakerFTD
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Good for Fisher.  Might be a meaningless gesture, but it is nice to hear someone at the Fed acknowledge that low rates are devastating to the elderly.

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:38 | 661844 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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This is a grande gesture, make no mistake.  They are saying, "Woops!  But we didn't mean to!"  And this is no apology!  This is so you will not chase after them when it is time for their crow.  You can hate the player, and you can hate the game, but if you don't recognize the difference, ain't a damn thing changed.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:45 | 661871 SpeakerFTD
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You might be right, but the acknowledgement does change the PR situation a bit.  An intrepid reporter, if there is such a thing left on the planet, could write some pretty interesting articles profiling the seniors who are suffering because of this policy.  It is a story I have not seen told in the MSM, and it needs to.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:51 | 661896 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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PR and the Fed should never be in the same sentence.  I understand that they are trying to make it so there are still (was there ever?) perceived "good" economists in the Fed system, but this is merely using a dialectic of good vs. bad in context. 

 

Let me put it simply:  There have been no good PR moves by the Fed because it is an outlaw criminal syndicate forcing themselves on our population by stealth and corruption.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:18 | 662033 Bob
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But without the Fed, we would have no money!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:35 | 661838 sethco
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This Fisher should absolutely avoid flying in small aircraft for awhile. Accidents will happen.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:41 | 661858 TheGreatPonzi
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And he should beware of cars too.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:19 | 662040 Bob
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Nahh, he's been a fairly good boy.  A nice hot bubble bath should do it. 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:51 | 662378 cougar_w
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Hot tubs. Bad mojo, them hot tubs.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 00:30 | 663506 StychoKiller
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You just say that 'cause cats don't like water. :>D

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:37 | 661842 Boilermaker
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Ahhh...a good old fashioned mutinous vote-of-no-confidence against Heli-Ben. 

Didn't they call this getting 'fragged' in Vietnam?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:40 | 661852 bada boom
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Who knows, maybe this is just cya. 

Well ya see, I was going to vote against, I really wasn't for it, but they convinced me to do it.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:54 | 662388 cougar_w
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These are the furious sounds of an end-game. Everyone has their strategy, nobody is pulling together, play your hand close to the vest, and be on the roof when the chopper lands.

Your story holds water, the guy who got left behind can take the blame. Nothing personal, just business.

We'll need another Fed chairman someday. Let's all guess who wants that job.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:42 | 661862 Grand Supercycle
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Today marks an important turing point for global markets and the USD strength I warned about has arrived.

http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:05 | 661952 Spalding_Smailes
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You have been bearish for 5 weeks, you have lost your flock a small fortune ... Your calls have been very bad.

Sep 2

Today’s sharp counter trend rally clearly has a short covering
component but that aside – these counter trend rallies don’t
change the bearish bigger picture. In response to queries from
readers, I’ll try and post more charts when time permits.

Sep 7

Choppy mixed signals continue and intra day equity futures are now
bearish. Opposite for USDX. More info later.

As medium and long term indicators for equity indices become more
bearish, counter trend rallies get weaker. In other words the
increasingly bearish outlook overides any smaller time frame rallies.

Sep 16

EURUSD 2hr chart showing a common pattern these days …

DOW / SP500 / FTSE / DAX intra day chart bearish warnings have
increased. As suggested earlier, we may be seeing the resumption
of the downtrend. DOW futures last price 10,534

Sep 27

SP500 Financial Index weekly chart Fri 24 Sept inclusive shows
this important index is basically flatlining and hasn’t been bullish
for some time.

Oct 8

Have just realised that my EURUSD target was 1.4030 (a bit late
i know) – let’s see if i’m right and it marks the top of this leg.

The NFP reaction 10 mins ago confirms further EURUSD intra day
weakness and USDX strength.

As shown on my Oct 1 chart, XAUUSD signals a top for this leg.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:47 | 661872 crosey
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The physics of this will become overwhelming.  TPTB have been screwing us for centuries, but they've managed to contain the backlash.

This time there will be much blood spilled.  I don't think there will be a way to contain the backlash.  You can feel the gathering storm growing against the tyranny.

Today rifle shots were aimed at the Pentagon.  Outrageous?  Barney Frank, are you wearing your Kevlar?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:32 | 662928 NotApplicable
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Backlash? What I feel is the gathering storm OF the tyranny.

Why? Because destruction is their only end game play (as well as beginning and middle game).

You feel it is a backlash of the masses because you've been conditioned to believe so. (every government promotes the revolution that empowered them as being liberating) Instead, I see it as the trigger the elite will use to crush the masses, while blaming it on "rogue elements."

You see, violent revolution is just the next trap to be sprung, same as countless times before. Problem is, being an incoherent ideology, it always sows the seeds of its own destruction.

Society relies on voluntary cooperation in order to be successful. The elites though, they rely solely on destruction of this sustainable social function in order that their services are needed. That the masses rise up occasionally, only guarantees that they will remain subdued.

If they had nothing to lose before, they'll end up with even less in the long-run. Of course, long-run thinking and revolutions seldom occur together, which is why they work so well for the elites.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:47 | 661877 Milton Waddams
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And there you have it: the potential realization of failure equates to "darkest moments". The psychological constructs of a confidence artist, or sociopath. Conjuring delusions to protect a fragile ego, which itself is covering for additional underlying issues.

"I have these academic credentials from world class universities, my dream job, and for what? I'm still a incapable, blathering idiot that no matter how hard I try I'm still going to commandeer the ship into the iceburg."

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:49 | 661885 buzzsaw99
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hardly endear? how about die mofos!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:49 | 661886 treemagnet
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I didn't read the whole thing, but "crocodile tears" comes to mind from time to time.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:49 | 661887 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Burn baby burn its a disco inferno

Keep them guessing, buy time, look for signs of change ... rinse, wash, repeat.

Matt Groenig of Simpsons fame had the "Hell" series which was very funny. The characters were rabbits.

In one frame, there is a young rabbit surrounded by two older rabbits on the playground.

One of the older rabbits explains, "We're going to play a game now. Yes means no, and No means yes. Do you want me to punch you now?" "No!", PUNCH "Ouch!", "Do you want me to stop?", "Yes!", PUNCH, "Ouch!, I mean No!" etc.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 16:04 | 662422 Kilgore Trout
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<i>Life in Hell</i>

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 00:35 | 663520 StychoKiller
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I recognize that Transistor!  I really wish QCAD would publish a useful library of electronic parts, then I would actually PAY for their software!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:53 | 661901 Caviar Emptor
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In my darkest moments, I have begun to wonder if the monetary accommodation we have already engineered might even be working in the wrong places

These indeed are words that describe the hitherto unthinkable: that the Fed has created a monster in the form of BIflation. What he's saying is that INflation has crept into commodities, raw materials, the cost of financial transactions, insurance and healthcare, the cost of homeownership, the cost of doing business and the cost of living for the middle class. Who can deny it? The figures are all there even if core CPI does not reflect it. Just look at the CPI-PPI spread: it's been widening ever since QE1 and the stimulus pushed up the price of cost inputs which CAN"T be passed on to a constrained consumer. And why is the consumer constrained? Because of DEflation in the wrong places : real incomes, employment and advancement opportunities, housing, anticipated retirement income from social security, medicare, pensions and even 401Ks which are being drawn down to pay for cost of living. 


Tue, 10/19/2010 - 16:06 | 662427 the rookie cynic
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It's like an invisible hand has slapped the Fed across the face. Capital will eventually find the cracks and leak out after all the Fed does or does not do. Reality always wins. The Fed can flip-flop around all it wants, but the global flow of capital will eventually (though it may take awhile) find the route of least resistance.

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:42 | 662946 NotApplicable
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You're assuming there is capital left to flow, when really all that's left is debt.

What capital that's not yet been consumed (or stolen) is mostly locked firmly in place by the construction industry and their millions of empty houses, condos, moth-balled factories and strip malls.

Short of China relocating citizens here (US), I fail to see how it can ever be employed to produce value. Or will the New New Deal tear them all down in order to have "work?"

Crack-up boom? Why you're soaking in it!

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 00:36 | 663523 StychoKiller
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The Fed needs to get it through its collective thick skull that the solution to the Economic woes involves CUTTING GOVT SPENDING and REGULATION -- accept no substitutes! :<(

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 13:59 | 661926 spartan117
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Why does anyone even believe what these people have to say anymore?  Do you seriously believe, even for a second, that what they tell us they should do is what they will do?  Fuck these assholes.  All of them.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:05 | 661957 SheepDog-One
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Theyre trapped like rats, soon the carnage will be massive.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:22 | 662059 proLiberty
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Inflation cannot change the actual economic resources. It only changes the amount of currency used to describe those resources. It is like trying to feed surprise guests at a teen party by cutting the pizza into thinner slices. It just cheats everyone. Ludwig von Mises said it only gave the "appearance of prosperity" after which economic reality must reassert itself. Alan Greenspan in his essay, Gold and Economic Freedom said:

"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.

"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard."

http://www.usagold.com/gildedopinion/greenspan.html

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:38 | 662135 macholatte
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So, what will we likely decide at the next FOMC meeting? As with the American League championship, you’ll find out when it’s over and only then.

2010 Members of the FOMC

 

Members

Ben S. Bernanke, Board of Governors, Chairman

William C. Dudley, New York, Vice Chairman

James Bullard, St. Louis

Elizabeth A. Duke, Board of Governors

Thomas M. Hoenig, Kansas City

Sandra Pianalto, Cleveland

Sarah Bloom Raskin, Board of Governors

Eric S. Rosengren, Boston

Daniel K. Tarullo, Board of Governors

Kevin M. Warsh, Board of Governors

Janet L. Yellen, Board of Governors

 

Alternate Members

Charles L. Evans, Chicago

Richard W. Fisher, Dallas

Narayana Kocherlakota, Minneapolis

Charles I. Plosser, Philadelphia

Christine M. Cumming, First Vice President, New York

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:39 | 662153 max2205
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Pea brain liar or dumbshithead

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 14:52 | 662187 belogical
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This assh*le is only figuring this out now. No wonder this economy is crashing, these guys are too stupid to take up air

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:00 | 662190 Miles Kendig
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Welcome to the road Mr. Fisher as you discover that your perception of being an "er" was false as you begin to appreciate you're just one more "ed" in this rolling shit storm.

Your weak will won't help to heal her heart is the refrain of the day from all corners.  Hope you can develop some real stile ... as the quest to bridge JMK & Hayek gains in urgency

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfDIs4LdSA

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:28 | 662310 shushup
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Honesty - That's refreshing from a Fed Gov.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 15:40 | 662333 Ripped Chunk
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Fisher is off the reservation.

Fatal heart attack or car crash by Friday AM.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 16:25 | 662490 THE DORK OF CORK
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If the FED really wants to increase wealth withen its borders and allies and hurt China then inflating Gold instead of dollar debt may be a option.

Europe and American CBs still have substantial Gold reserves and I speculate that Europe has vast private gold holdings.

Also the buying power of its more pliable ally India would be transformed and would  pressure on China's ability to buy commodities.

The FED is using this fake Dallas cowboy to court the zealots of this new Gold age to preserve its political power which is under attack from various sourses.

For the first time I have the feeling that China is being set up for a surprise.

How Japan may react may be more problematic.

Watch this space.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:00 | 662841 gwar5
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The late Don Ho would be proud

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:09 | 663066 thermroc
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It's not a glue factory, it's a great depression dance marathon.

"They shoot horses, don't they?"

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:24 | 663087 onlooker
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--- ” Credit availability remains a challenge for small businesses, but only 3 percent of small businesses surveyed by the National Federation of Independent Business reported financing as their top business problem in October.[3] And reports of lagging receivables or the stretching out of payment terms that were so prominent only one year ago in the corporate supply chain have become as scarce as hens’ teeth.”----- What was the “top” business problem and where was the lack of money, like #2? I reject his comment as inane. Cash is short

------ he states some businesses have a lack of competent/educated work candidates.----- I reject his comment as untrue and an outrage against the highest educated unemployed in the Nations history. Kids get the degree and continue to wait tables. Kids get the degree and then go for a masters because there are no JOBS. This is again the spin that if you just get better educated, you will have a job. It is the citizen’s fault to be unemployed. It is untrue and untrue and untrue with intent.

By exporting America’s manufacturing, the housing boom was all that held the economy up but provided the chicken coop for the surly wealthy thugs. Now that housing is collapsed along with the economy, there are not enough jobs for the educated or uneducated.

Let me tell the readership of ZH that Dallas has its problems with the power elite, but this fellow may not be one of our most honest or original thinkers.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 00:33 | 663514 HungrySeagull
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There was one bubble the Fed did not create I saw today.

A ad placed onto satellite TV by a native indian owned bank on a Indian Territory Reservation selling Loans and Banking services.

 

Can you imagine this bubble as the Native American Indian Nations band together to buy out the USA and reclaim what they once owned?

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 07:49 | 663740 overmedicatedun...
overmedicatedundersexed's picture

If you understood the native stone age culture you would understand :NO ONE OWNS"TURTLE ISLAND."

Such sophomoric adulation of the noble savage is beneath most here on ZH.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 07:45 | 663737 overmedicatedun...
overmedicatedundersexed's picture

The fed can slowly confess it's sins to the public..that will be called heroic in the MSM.

None of these criminals will see jail in fact they will live very well

while old people eat cat food and die off as one congressman(Grayson) so elegantly stated: " they can't die off quick enough to save SS and Medicare"

Some of us are kept in check by our responsibility to our families..but even that check can be overcome by these criminals in your face hypocrisy. 

anyone see the pictures of Obuma speaking( See Drudge)?

they are pulling the curtain back, to what end we will see.

Sat, 11/13/2010 - 08:34 | 724529 mark456
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Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic.
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