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The Day The Dollar Died

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An entertaining, and no holds barred fictional look at what America's post QE4 future may look like.

Released by the NIA.

 

 

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Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:06 | 753250 BobPaulson
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While Lennon read a book on Marx.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:16 | 753279 Yancey Ward
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Imagine there is no money.....?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:28 | 753322 hedgeless_horseman
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Imagine there are still "investors" in the stock market.

We may never see another market crash again, as price discovery has been eliminated.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 08:00 | 754410 Instant Karma
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Problem wouldnt be a food shortage, problem would be $40 for a loaf of bread.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:55 | 753405 At120
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Gold up a $1000 in a day?  I wish.   Limit up for gold on Comex is $75.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:08 | 753446 DoChenRollingBearing
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Price of paper gold...

fofoa.blogspot.com

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 06:12 | 754356 fredquimby
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I can't believe there are only 58 subscribers to FOFOA's post feed!

He is the best gold writer on the planet!

http://fofoa.blogspot.com

Click, join, buy physical, enjoy!

 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:23 | 753489 DarkMath
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NIA is a pump and dump scam. This film did for hyper-inflation what "The Day After Tomorrow" did for global warming...It's all bullshit.

China would never announce their intent to stop buying treasuries. That would be fucking crazy and immediately evaporate whatever dollars they hold. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot.

Tyler and the ZeroHedge Staff,

You cheapen your reporting buy referencing the NIA. Go ahead, sign up for their mailing list. You'll get "suggestions" on what penny stocks to buy. Gee thanks NIA, so you can dump them after the jump 25 cents. Fuck you. What the fuck do penny stocks have to do with Hyper-Inflation? Nothing, they're using the fear of hyper-inflation to generate a mailing list of people to pump stocks to.

We're screwed. The Fed is clueless and supposed "alternative media" like the NIA want to scam us. That's how fucking sorry this country is. I wish I could teleport to a different time because present day American is PATHETIC.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:30 | 753517 tmosley
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Exactly.  And the worst thing is, their material is often posted by people who believe that hyperinflation is coming, and that behavior makes everyone who truly believes in it look like a charlatan.

In situations like this, you must look at the credibility of the source, and if it is bad, as it is in this case, you must throw it out.  You can NOT be tempted to use it as evidence to the contrary.

You see, contrarianism only works until your contrarian indicator figures out that he has power over markets, and will merely reverse his calls to move the markets.  This is the case with Goldman's calls a few months ago, and likely has been the case with Cramer.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:01 | 753720 Bananamerican
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+

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 10:58 | 754516 clymer
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I cannot fault vison victory or NIA. These punks put out some good vids / info. They have a biz to operate like everyone else, but I do not doubt their integrity, nor their genuine concern for the American economy / currency.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:52 | 753579 traderjoe
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I disagree that the piece 'cheapened' the reporting done here. It's a blog, and I enjoy the wider variety of items posted then other financial news sites. 

I thought the video was an interesting thought experiment with decent production values. Do I think that's the way it will play out? No. But it was worth my seven minutes invested. 

I'd rather have a couple of these sorts of items every now and then - than not. Even if done from a less then credible source, I didn't need to buy anything or be on any mailing list to watch. 

Similarly, I enjoyed the SEIU sponsored Where's the Note post, and have passed that campaign along to more then a few people - many of whom were more likely to participate based upon the SEIU sponsorship. 

Variety of 'reporting' is good. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:29 | 753759 DoChenRollingBearing
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I completely agree traderjoe.  Of course such a scenario would not play out in a day.  And, it is very true that ZH can and should offer up an interesting variety of material, as it has since I discovered this site.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 22:59 | 755361 ChookChoker
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There are a few inaccuracies. As you say, it would take more than 24 hours. The euro will be dead first, so oil will trade in gold and renimbi. And it will happen before 2012.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:48 | 753792 Thanatos
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Hey, these NIA vids get better production all the time and this one is pretty slick.

The way I see it, most people need a message like this; Short, Overly Dramatic, Slick Production... If they are going to get in en masse...

Think Glen Beck. He might be an idiot, but if he were a stock, there would be people in here buying him (flinchinly) because of his charts...

That is what the public can digest... Don't give them tabular fact, they will go catatonic on ya...

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 01:46 | 754215 Oh regional Indian
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Agreed Thanatos.

It's a matter of being heard by the herd, so to speak.

The shrillness of daily MSM tripe is far greater, their subliminal mesaging skills sharpened by years of research by Tavistock Institute and their buddies.

Shock and awe, the only message that "gets through" anymore.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 04:34 | 754311 Herd Redirectio...
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Did someone mention a herd that needs redirecting???

The Central Bankers know what they are doing.  The truth is, currency debasement has become the most viable strategy for the Oligarchy.  Its not the first time in history an Empire is debasing its currency.  Its just, the other times haven't ended well, you see.

Not everyone can be 'saved'.  I am reluctant to believe that, but evidence abounds.  Focus on the people who are receptive, alert and aware.

http://psychonews.site90.net

PsychoNews: Exposing the Oligarchy, one Psycho at a time.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 08:05 | 754413 Instant Karma
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Glenn Beck rocks. Kept me buying physical. Explained the fiscal black hole we're in, from which there is no escape other than dollar devaluation.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:01 | 754606 RockyRacoon
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And he made it clear how it's all the fault of the unions (which make up about 7% of the work force).

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 14:09 | 754805 Blankman
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He also informed me that mormons stockpile food so if there ever is a food shortage i know whose door i am going to kick down to feed my family :)

Mon, 12/20/2010 - 19:33 | 819722 Bendromeda Strain
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That was funny. Kick mine down if you want more minerals in your diet.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 13:59 | 754798 Green Leader
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"Not everyone can be 'saved'.  I am reluctant to believe that, but evidence abounds.  Focus on the people who are receptive, alert and aware."

My closest ones in our green movement keep pounding me with that. I am accused of being naive & altruistic.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:12 | 753639 cpgone
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NIA has been right on.How have they scammed you?

I know they push penny stocks.If you are dumb enough to buy penny stocks,then

that is another story.The nickel penny junker they push is up.Take profits. They made a great SLV Call call.Did you miss it too?

Did you miss the part about the vid. about it being fiction?

From the tone of your profane diatribe ,you missed silver run.Its not too late.

Im buying more myself.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:22 | 753744 Rusty Shorts
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Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:16 | 753972 DarkMath
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Funny, no I've been on the Silver bus since $17/oz. Been very happy with it. No the NIA didn't scam me. How stupid do you think I am. Oh my. I naively signed up on their email list and got a bunch of penny stock buy ideas. Gee the real question is HOW STUPID ARE YOU?

You don't even see the NIA for what they are. They are pump and dumpers. Do you even know what that means. These guys probably worked in some boiler room somewhere and got a few ideas. After all there's a sucker born every day.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:04 | 754608 RockyRacoon
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You bought your first silver at $17?  Who's the sucker?

You're obviously not a quick study.

I was selling 100 oz bars on eBay when it was $6... and glad to get the money.

Mon, 12/20/2010 - 19:39 | 819737 Bendromeda Strain
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Wrong. The sucker is the one who holds none and refuses to buy at today's price.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:04 | 753727 Hugh_Jorgan
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Your personal feelings about the NIA aside, we all know that most of the analysis here is valid. They picked one of the more unlikely possibilities as their precipitating event. But, with China and Russia announcing today that they will not be trading with the world's reserve currency anymore, I'm not ready to cast the NIA aside as "bullshit". There are many scenarios that could cause an avalanche scenario to finally commence in earnest. I think war-gaming them all out out to get a better idea of what it might look like makes a lot of sense. I for one, would like to have a chance to duck the first barrage and have some ideas as to what to do next after that. The more people do it, the better off we will be in the end

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:37 | 753777 Thanatos
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Yeah, I am not ready to discount his information without research.

One tends to get a lot of usable information from less than upstanding folks (not saying NIA is not upstanding) you just have to check it out.

All the NIA stuff I have seen is overly dramatic, but generally correct as far as I have seen. They actually go out and document street level decay to back up some of their claims. Yes, I know how easy it is to tragedy shop but they are out there...

I don't subscribe to their newsletter, and I wouldn't consider owning stocks of any type for lots of reasons. Mostly because I like to "Own" stuff and not paper. I know I miss out on a lot of money, as people rub it in all the time. But I sleep good knowing that what I own is very unlikely to dissapear if idiots in Washington or wall st. blow us up.

 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:09 | 753786 ColonelCooper
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Deleted. 

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 03:06 | 754265 Rusty Shorts
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The good stuff is being deleted every day ColonelCooper.

http://vodpod.com/watch/358247-rod-stewart-lost-in-you

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 10:43 | 754508 ColonelCooper
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I stepped all over Faustian in my attempt to point out JGalt's Blovel. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:22 | 753981 DarkMath
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No doubt China is diversifying their holding and no doubt the dollar is doomed. It will take 10 years to happen though. It's not going to happen over night and certainly not in one day.

Hey, I believed the NIA videos until I signed up for their email list and they started pitching penny stocks. It's a f'ing scam. Hyper-Inflation is their hook to get you in. It's sickening. Why else do you think these guys are spending time and money to produce these videos, altruism, the love of mankind?

I'm just disgusted with hacks that would take advantage of people. I've seen enough of the past few years.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:06 | 754615 RockyRacoon
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So, move on already.  You've made your point.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 05:27 | 754334 Ted K
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Darkmath,

You are 100% correct on NIA and the "pump and dump".  Don't let the 18 junks bother you.  That was Tyler's male secretary making 18 trips to warm his coffee but he kept forgetting the vaseline and surgical glove.  You might notice Tyler also likes gold a lot.  It seems to jive coincidentally well with the advertising.  As for Tyler's trading book, well, you get 2 guesses on that.  The only thing more pathetic than this post is Tyler acting like he takes Keiser's silver campaign against JPMorgan seriously.  Since Tyler likes to take cheap shots against the SEC and rarely mentions former Republican Senator Phil Gramm's sodomization of the SEC,  I wonder what year Tyler will be talking about this story (See link)????

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay-verdict-20101...

 

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:33 | 754557 Air_BernanQE
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DarkMath, I could not agree more with you. NIA scamily explained. NIA is utter bullshit and a rip off. These fear mongering campaigns are the last things people need now. How's NIA better than Micheal chertoff? Everything is for personal gains, just to rip off common people who already lost their shirts and pants. At this time, we need people like Ralph Nader to bring true liberty and prosperity to this Country through his idealistic/realistic views.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:25 | 754647 downrodeo
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"At this time, we need people like Ralph Nader to bring true liberty and prosperity to this Country through his idealistic/realistic views."

It is not my intention to go off on a tangent, but I have to comment on your last line there. Liberty is not something that can be brought to you. You have to seek it out. You have to call bullshit on anyone who would make any move to limit your freedom. Are you opting out of the body-scanners based on principal? This is not something that will be fixed by electing a different ilk. Elections are charades these days anyway. We have to fix this from the ground up. My advice is to decouple with the system to whatever extent is feasible for you and your family. Then put your money into something that will be productive in the future.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:50 | 753577 qrad
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when the time comes, the comex won't have shit to say about it! physical and paper will decouple. that's why it's time to get your physical now! http://standfordelivery.com

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:00 | 753802 MeTarzanUjane
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What are you guys talking about?

I've been over at http://www.thegreatstuffingdebate.com schooling some bitches.

What have I missed?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:08 | 753818 traderjoe
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That's your best post ever. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:14 | 753826 Thanatos
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I was laughing pretty hard!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:20 | 753830 MeTarzanUjane
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Those old bitches are rough. I told them that Tarzan was going to come to their houses and steal their stuffing and I got banned from that site.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:29 | 753844 traderjoe
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Some people take their stuffing very seriously. I think it's fair to say that if you are stocking up on stuffing, you'll also have the means to protect it...

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 00:52 | 754156 redpill
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Who knew people could care so much about soggy bread? More wine please!

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:10 | 754624 RockyRacoon
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Anybody catch Art Cashin's stuffing recipe yesterday?

Starts with 30 White Castle burgers.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232/?video=1662255667&play=1

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 10:08 | 754489 alien-IQ
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Do you really wish to see gold rise $1000 in a day? Really? Do you understand the ramifications of this or are your just speaking out of blind greed? Try this out, as an experiment: Take some of the gold you've been stashing, put some of it between two slices of bread...and take a bite...Let us know how that goes.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:00 | 754517 AmericaRacket
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Yeah maaan!  Have'tn you hurdd??  Ya cant eet goooold!@$!%

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:00 | 754518 AmericaRacket
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Yeah maaan!  Have'tn you hurdd??  Ya cant eet goooold!@$!%

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 22:51 | 755346 ChookChoker
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Here is another experiment. Take fifteen $100 notes. Put them in between two slices of bread. Take a bite. Let us know how that goes.

Anyone who says that gold isn't better than Fiat because you can't eat it is a moron.

Mon, 12/20/2010 - 17:00 | 819400 Panafrican Funk...
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I can't eat my house either. I also can't eat my Mossberg 590.  Another thing I can't eat?  My computer, on which I produce most of my work output. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:15 | 753463 DaveyJones
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I'm sure the Fed sings dirges in the dark

A long long time ago
I can still remember,
how those forecasts used to make me smile
And I knew if I had Ben's chance
That I could make those numbers dance
And maybe we'd be happy for a while
But February made me shiver
With every paper Ben delivered
Bad news on our doorstep
Were at the cliff, now take a step   
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about this cyanide 
But something touched me deep inside
The day the bond holders died

{Refrain}

So, why why, did America die?
bailed out chevys and banker heavies 
now my coffers are dry
And good old boys were drinkin' young blood with a sigh
Singin' this'll be the day that I lie
This'll be the day that I lie

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:54 | 753587 BobPaulson
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Well done if you wrote that.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:39 | 753915 DaveyJones
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Thanks

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:57 | 753944 bonin006
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Any possibility of getting a few more verses out of you?

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 01:42 | 754192 DaveyJones
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(just got home, let me give it a shot)

 

Did you write the book of love

did you know Obama's not a dove

if his prompter tells him so

Now do you believe this place will roll

can precious metal save your mortal soul

and can the chinese disinvest real slow.... 

 

well I know Tim Geitner's got a twin

cause I saw him kissing Uncle Ben

They both pissed on Tyler's news

and said stop your whining blues 

 

He was a lonely teenage blogging buck

with a razor wit and his message stuck

and he knew we were all shit out of luck

the day, the easing died

 

so why, why did America die...

 

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 07:15 | 754388 i-dog
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Bravo! Molto bene!

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 07:17 | 754391 infinity8
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you, sir, are awesome

 

thank you!

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:29 | 754639 DaveyJones
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now for ten years, Steagall's dead as stone

and debt grows fat on our aging bone

but that's not how it used to be

when Bill Black stung for the King and Queen

and snagged a few including Charles Keating

In a voice well it came from you and me...

but while we bought homes with nothing down

the system stole our jewels and crown

the lawyers are now adjourned

no verdicts will be returned

while the oval office read a book on Marx

the guys too big hit one out of the park

and the SEC masterbated in the dark

the day the easing died

 

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 16:28 | 755022 velobabe
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davey i like it, especially coming from an attorney in california.

ROCK on, jones_y

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:31 | 753768 DoChenRollingBearing
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Second that!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:02 | 753721 Cheesy Bastard
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Your excellent Don McLean reference is duly noted.  +1

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:10 | 754528 Yancey Ward
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I thought it was "Lenin", not Lennon.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:30 | 754553 BobPaulson
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There are many sites like this but here is one:

www.explainthelyrics.com/AmericanPie-DonMcLean.cfm

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:10 | 753258 zevulon
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fickty first!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:13 | 753266 faustian bargain
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Any relation to this story written by our fellow commenter johngaltfla last year?

http://johngaltfla.com/blog3/2009/11/18/the-day-the-dollar-died/

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:19 | 753293 johngaltfla
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No. No contact. No nothing. Damned nice parallel though. F'ing assholes.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:48 | 753386 faustian bargain
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sounds like it's time for some comment bombing on that video. (if it's possible, anyway...i haven't looked.)

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:04 | 753814 MeTarzanUjane
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DMCA takedown bitchez.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:50 | 753391 Shocker
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The sad part is, this 'made up' video could actually happen. Most people see the train that is coming. The dollar is losing value, prices at the grocery store going up. The list really goes on and on. Its time for people actually to wake up and even if they want to live in lala land, at least have a clue in the back of your head.

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:08 | 753819 MeTarzanUjane
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Any guesses about what Tyler has in store for Thanksgiving articles?

I want to see a story about turkeyday at Lloyds house. Possible?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:08 | 753817 ColonelCooper
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Deleted

 

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 04:36 | 754312 bigkahuna
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JG,

 

The icon you use comes from a really good film that more people should see:

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/

 

 

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 09:09 | 754458 tallystick
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MOtherfuckers!  I remember reading your article last year, and I assumed the same author made a video version.

 

Take these plagiarizing scumbags down.

Mon, 12/20/2010 - 20:05 | 819788 Bendromeda Strain
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Are you familiar with David Crawford and Lights Out? Started out as an online story, popular like yours, and he kept going with it until it disappeared. It's back as a novel, and seeing how well received your story was, I think you could do the same. Halffast Publishing (half assed?) handled the logistics.

http://www.amazon.com/Lights-Out-David-Crawford/dp/0615427359/ref=sr_1_1...

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:20 | 753295 WaterWings
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I considered it anti-climatic, but what do you expect. Good guys die. Nothing is certain. Protect friends and family from the beginning. Suicide/disappear the quislings immediately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Resistance_(book)

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:22 | 753306 johngaltfla
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Actually I'm publishing the sequel one chapter per week now. Chapter 1 went up last Thursday, the new one goes up tomorrow morning.

The Year After the Dollar Died
Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:27 | 753323 SV
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I particularly liked the spin put on by the media about disease killing everyone off in the area... Keep up the good writing!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:29 | 753334 WaterWings
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Nice. As you may recall I was jabbing you to finish a while back. Great read.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:33 | 753344 johngaltfla
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LOL, I had a LOT of jabbing. But after a long summer to reflect, there is more to the story. The financial news media returns in Chapter 3 and most of my fans will not be shocked by the tone and delivery of the news.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:56 | 754021 ColonelCooper
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Can't wait.  Is there a place or format to buy it?  I would like to be able to give it to friends. 

Your story is an excellent way to get people to think a little besides my proselytizing.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 01:13 | 754179 johngaltfla
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I was having an editor clean it up for publication but as I've discovered, I need to get a new editor. Thus any publication of the first book will be postponed for at least 4 to 6 more months. I'm thinking about doing an E-Book with the raw blovel however if you have a Kindle.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:40 | 753547 realitybiter
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JG rocks.

I loved your blovel.  You and Rawles scare the bejeezus out of me and that is a good thing.  

What do you think about the timing of the dollar death.  Didn't your blovel have last Spring?  I am not holding you to this because who knows?

 

Peace.  you should be flattered.  I like the sequel, too.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:27 | 753503 DoChenRollingBearing
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Two recent fiction books about what happens after the SHTF:

--  "Patriots" (J. Rawles)

--  "One Second After" (I do not remember the author)

Both are excellent "survival porn" books.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:53 | 753707 -Michelle-
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Rawles has a new one coming out soon.  I'm sure I'll read that one too.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:02 | 753812 Thanatos
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I liked Rawles book(s) He knows his shit and doesn't play the pollyanna. Most folks in here would find his stuff a bit disturbing as it is a little to "in detail" about some rather sticky subjects like cannibals and shit like that... Haha..

I still like Lucifers Hammer the best of all the Survival type books I have read.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:31 | 753845 FEDbuster
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Lucifers Hammer took a long time to get going, but I really liked the last half of the book.  Another good one that was available online for a long time was "Lights Out" (an EMP disaster book).  Very well written, and was supposed to be published in hard copy soon.  "One Second After" was one everybody should take the time to read.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:22 | 753888 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yeah, I read "Lights Out" a year or so ago, 400 pages over a weekend looking at my computer monitor.  It was excellent as well.  I tried to find it again not long ago, but the site where I read it before only had the first half of the book...

South Texas, bitchez!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:56 | 753940 Thanatos
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Hey, I don't know if you know (or care) but if you ever want to listen in on the Police, EMS, Fire, Etc. In your area and you don't have a scanner, you can use this website:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/

They have full 50 state coverage, but maybe not your local area.

Cheers! and Happy Thanksgiving!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:18 | 753975 Cheesy Bastard
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Thanks for the link.  I will use it.  Read Lucifers Hammer about thirty years ago.  Re-read it last summer.  Great book but a bit dated and plot a bit too serindipitous.  It is still a must read though.  I am looking forward to getting some newer books for Christmas such as The Road and One Second after.  OTHER SUGGESTIONS?

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 23:24 | 755389 -Michelle-
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It's a little more out there, but Without Warning and its sequel After America are pretty good.

Mon, 12/20/2010 - 20:19 | 819828 Bendromeda Strain
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See my link above - it's in print today.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:56 | 753807 Thanatos
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Countdown to Looking Glass [1984]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8786950669565492785#

 

I have been reccomending this movie to people... It is fascinating for many reasons, the media in 1984 was so much more than it is today... Wow.

It's really apropriate for the times.

Great flick.

 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:05 | 753815 Thanatos
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One Second After is about an EMP event if I remember. That was a freaky book.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 02:10 | 754237 Oh regional Indian
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My take on who-will-survive up-porn... looks white-unfriendly, but is not meant to be, just the turning of wheels as I see them. 

An excerpt...

A look at the last 500 years or more of world history will show that many more red,black, brown, yellow and sundry other hued peoples died at the hands or the wits of the white men than the other way around. In fact, while I can present no numbers, I’m sure the ratio would be staggering.
If you throw in direct consequences of white on colour actions (Buffalo Slaughter, Forced Language conversion, forced religious conversion, divide and rule, small pox in blankets, the grind-you-into-the-dust-rial revolution and all it’s associated horrors, chemical/literal/figurative/cultural pollution…..the list is long and odorous/onerous), it becomes staggeringly clear that the white population (in proportion) has grown all out of proportion to it’s original carrying capacity.
We always speak of absolute numbers in population statistics, whereas the real numbers that matter are relative.

Now a population of any space is supported by a certain natural resource smorgasboard, suited to because it sprang from the local, could naturally support a certain, limited population. Nature, left to her own devices, understands balance, or it would/could not be.
Which skin colour, if you could be so objective, has grown all out of proportion to it’s available resource base?
Of course and without a doubt, the world’s white population.To deny that even momentarily, is to deny an obvious, slap-in-your-face reality.
May I suggest this site for some in-sight…
http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/human_pop/human_pop.html#Past
But even there, you cannot see the dis-proportionate rise of the white population as a percentage of world population, especially accounting for the fact of their original, natural environment’s Carrying Capacity, over the past 500 years, especially since the start of the industrial revolution.

For the rest:

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/as-the-great-wheel-turns-rele...

 

Such is how I see it.

 

ORI

 


Thu, 11/25/2010 - 07:59 | 754408 i-dog
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Interesting perspective, ORI. But, knowing the minds of the oligarchs, and assuming a few other geopolitical factors, I beg to differ.

I do see the imminent subjugation of the west to the status of cotton-pickers and prison work-camp inmates, but I also see a concerted effort, over a slightly longer timescale, to worldwide population reduction. It's in their plans; it makes sense from both planetary survival and management perspectives; and, they have the means and the will. I expect the means to be biological rather than the oft-touted nuclear winter.

Just my 2 rupees. Peace. :)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:13 | 754630 Oh regional Indian
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i-Dog, we are actually in complete agreement.

I think we are entering a massive, fractal reversion to the mean. That would mean reductions in all populations due to the factors you mention (Georgia Guide-stones/Eugenics/Vaccination and all). My core issue was relative numbers.

The white wave decimated many populations to almost extinction levels. White populations are currently in decline due entirely to weird socio-economic-cultural factors. The Indias, Chinas, Bangladeshs, Malaysias et. al. of the world are much better suited to survive the biological winter you speak of though, wouldn't you agree? Not so much the majority of the white world, softened by generations of prosperity, built on the backs of indigenous/imported populations and colonized resources. 

You cannot eat aircraft carriers, bullets and missiles, except to your extreme detriment, ne?

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:14 | 753269 ranrun
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thank god obama will meet with the G20. was worried he wouldn't.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:14 | 753272 Cleanclog
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Appreciate it, but underwhelmed as the hype just took to hyperinflation.  Would have been better if it SHOWED what hyperinflation will look like.  Then this could go viral with mainstream America - most folks don't really know.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:52 | 753394 jdrose1985
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Basically less dollars exist today than existed in 2008.

The hyperinflationary expansion gets farther behind us every day, the hyperdeflation is all that remains to be seen.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:01 | 753424 tmosley
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You don't remember my "train pushing a string tied to a watermelon" analogy do you?  You're just sitting there eating that watermelon like a fool.  The watermelon isn't moving, so the train is obviously incapable of moving it ever.  

Well, whatever.  I'll hold your purse for you whilst you pig out.  Enjoy the just desserts.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:40 | 753687 Calmyourself
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Respectfully you do not get it..

Please take time to understand:

 HYPER  (loss of confidence followed by printing)inflation

It took me a while to get it but once you do it shows you that the number of Bernanke bucks in the system is the last thing that matters..

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:14 | 753273 Croesus
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That's why you need to crash JPM with silver !!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjXEnqLy7Fw&feature=player_embedded

 

 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:16 | 753281 string
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"will only accept EUR"

hahahahahhahahahahahah fucking awesome.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:36 | 753355 Sudden Debt
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Like that will ever happen.

QE4 is still at least 1 year or even 18 month away from now.

By then, almost every european country will have defaulted and euro coins will only be worth something to people who collect ancient coins.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:46 | 753691 unky
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before the dollar dies, the euro will die 10 times. but a lot of americans just look at their own country and dont think the euro-zone problems are that serious.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:16 | 753283 suckerfishzilla
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I've been consulting the metal oracle and it concurs with most of these events.  I thought the euro was the canary in the coal mine for the dollar.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:16 | 753284 HarryWanger
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Anybody read this at Ritholtz's site? Zombie Bears, Time to Admit the Recession is Over

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/11/zombie-bears-time-to-admit-the-rece...

No, I didn't write it but a long time bear did. And his points are right on. It's a recovery - subpar and slow but a recovery nonetheless. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:21 | 753298 goldmiddelfinger
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Narrowing stock leadership is a sign of a top. Buy NFLX on any 20 cent dip

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:24 | 753312 RobotTrader
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Virtually every sector is up today, except for solars and golds, which are pretty flat.

Huge breadth surge today.

Sector charts here:

http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=9466149

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:32 | 753342 hedgeless_horseman
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Bloomberg said it is because of good unemployment numbers. 

Nov. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Stocks rallied, driving the MSCI World Index up from a five-week low, after U.S. jobless claims declined to the fewest since 2008...

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aKQu19t7Eyy8&pos=1

Tyler points out they are not so wonderful:

Most importantly, non-seasonally adjusted claims increased by 52.5k.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/seasonally-adjusted-jobless-claims-beat-expectations-nsa-number-deteriorates-notably

 

What say you?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:34 | 753343 goldmiddelfinger
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This markets been topping for a year.  Bull markets generally end with quite narrow leadership, declining breadth, extreme complacency and overall bullish sentiment (but not extreme), momentum divergences, restrictive monetary conditions ("pushing on a string" might qualify), low cash levels at mutual funds and other institutions.  sounds like someone you know

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:39 | 753363 spartan117
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NIA did say we'd reach 14k on the DJIA.  Not that I believe NIA, but it plays into the Zimbabwe scenario, which I am a subscriber to. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:35 | 753530 SheepDog-One
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All on zero volume Robo.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:22 | 753305 Dr. Engali
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Hmm seems to me that unemployment was much lower before our current depression. I do believe that the Major indices where at much higher levels. Home values where much higher. Car sales were about 16 mill instead of the current 13 mil. We were creating 200,000 jobs a month. Now we have to rely on the birth death model to show any job growth. Yep we are in a raging bull market.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:23 | 753307 Tyler Durden
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When reading the otherwise rosy stories in the mainstream media, the
most glaringly simplistic and attention grabbing subsegments of which
continue to proclaim the recession over, while conveniently ignoring
that despite $4 trillion in monetary and fiscal stimuli
underemployment is at 17%, foodstamp recipients are at all time highs
(but who cares about that social stratum), discretionary purchases are
continuing to be funded primarily from millions of delinquent homeowners
who refuse to pay their mortgage (now on average between 18 and 24
months behind), companies are refusing to hire, capex spending is at all
time lows, banks are hoarding cash for the imminent perfect MBS
putback storm, commodity price inflation is threatening to collapse
profit and net income margins, half of Europe is locked out from capital
markets, rampant Chinese inflation is threatening to recreate Tianenman
square, investors are pulling cash from markets for 29 weeks in a row,
hardship withdrawals from 401(k)s surging, and the muni mess is one
political decision from an avalanche of city and state defaults, one may
be excused to have a comparable simplistic perspective of the economy.
After all stocks are up. Which of course is precisely the response that
Bernanke is hoping to elicit from these same simplistic interpreters of
economic and market data, who are next supposed to take money procured
from selling newsletters and other top and bottom-line declining
products, and buy (Chinese) trinkets they don't need. It is these same
people who will also conveniently ignore the sad reality that America's
small business find themselves increasingly in: and for the most vivid
example of this is the latest Reuters report which informs that small
business are now calling of Christmas en mass. "The 2010 holiday season represents the worst
slump since the firm began polling 22 years ago, she said. Of 103
leading businesses queried, those holding a celebration of any kind fell
to 79 percent, down from 81 percent both last year and the year before,
during the height of the economic recession."
Obviously Wall
Street is not among those polled: the country's bankers are preparing to
spend over $140 billion in compensation this year. Good luck booking a
restaurant, club or lounge in New York in the next month.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:27 | 753327 Cognitive Dissonance
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Tyler,

You're like a sour patch kid in Harry's sugary sweet Kool-Aid. I bet you don't get invited to Harry's Xmas party. :>)

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:06 | 753439 Max Hunter
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You have to admit Tyler, besides everything you point to, things are pretty good.. Right Harry?

LMAO

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 16:30 | 753337 RobotTrader
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Hourly and nightly rates for the high end escorts in Manhattan are soaring to all time highs.

LOL...

http://www.manhattan-escorts.elitemanhattanescorts.com/

http://highsocietyny.com/gallery.html

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:00 | 753423 YHWH
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Not a sign of inflation... more like a sign of big bonuses at Goldman, Morgan, Citi, etc...

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:28 | 753650 MarketTruth
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Exactly, and sad that Robo obviously frequents these services. Maybe he is 250+ lbs and needs those types of, eh hem, services? BTW Robo, real men have no need for services and in fact get spoiled by such women with gifts. Would say more, yet if you knew then you'd know. Judging by your posts over many months, you are being gamed instead of being the game.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:28 | 753757 Rainman
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..haha....the "real man gets laid for free" yarn is the oldest urban myth in the world. The Cinderella syndrome for men.

Sorry. Pussy has value. Pecker is worthless.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:38 | 753854 FEDbuster
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They will be grinding up Viagra, and doing lines of baby blue "powder" in NYC gentlemen's clubs.  Lap dances and happy endings for everyone!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:09 | 753968 chindit13
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Damn!  I'm long pecker!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:39 | 753914 MeTarzanUjane
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"you are being gamed instead of being the game."

No, U Jane Me Tarzan. DON'T ARGUE TARZAN!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:05 | 753435 Lndmvr
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Airbrushed bullsh**

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:11 | 753457 SilverIsKing
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They can say what they want about you Robot but I appreciate you.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:47 | 753859 JonNadler
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i like robot too

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:25 | 753890 DoChenRollingBearing
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Figures.

Au to $0.02

Ag to $0.01

:)

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 17:39 | 753541 SheepDog-One
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What is she a reptillian or something? Bizarre looking.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:07 | 753628 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Reptile?  No.

That "bizarre looking" thing is called a woman.

If you weren't living underground surrounded by 500 cans of green beans and feverishly writing your unibomber manifesto, you might have seen one before.

Cheers.  

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 18:11 | 753636 SheepDog-One
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LOL, I think I just pissed off this loser redneck with comments about the picture he downloaded for his date with Rosy Palm tonite!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 19:36 | 753776 DoChenRollingBearing
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LOL, SheepDog!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 20:57 | 753865 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Rosy palm?  LOL?

Are you serious?  That's your level of humor?

That's as witty as Bob Saget...sleeping.

It's not surprising to me that you'd find a pathetically witless phrase from the mid 80's so amusing that you'd have to laugh out loud with exclamation points.

You guys are geeks. Big time geeks. Geeks from outer space.  Geeks with walrus sized buck-teeth, bowl cuts and pocket protectors stapled to your pocketless shirts.

   

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:06 | 753875 nmewn
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"You guys are geeks. Big time geeks. Geeks from outer space.  Geeks with walrus sized buck-teeth, bowl cuts and pocket protectors stapled to your pocketless shirts."

Faux Redneck's?...LOL.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:14 | 753880 Cheesy Bastard
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Save your breath Red Neck.  You'll need it to inflate your girlfriend later.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:41 | 754013 Red Neck Repugnicant
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Indeed, your wife's breasts are plastic, but I paid extra for the silicon-filled upgrade.  No need to blow into a nozzle.

While we're on the subject, is there any chance you could look for my socks?  I think I left them under your bed.  Her side.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:46 | 754017 Cheesy Bastard
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We all know you are typing with your date.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 00:21 | 754126 FEDbuster
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Red rides on top of his G.W. Bush doll with a 10 inch dildo attached named "Big George".

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 01:37 | 754206 Arkadaba
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Ok - that made me really laugh out loud!

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:28 | 753894 DoChenRollingBearing
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Actually it was the "pissed off loser" part that I thought was funny.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:40 | 753919 nmewn
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I "hoped" it would be easy to bait up a faux redneck...gonna have to "change" mah bait I gis ;-)

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:50 | 753931 Cheesy Bastard
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His "Faux News" avatar suggests that any subsidy stolen from someone who earned something will do nicely for bait.  Or a roadkill possum.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:04 | 753957 nmewn
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"His "Faux News" avatar suggests that any subsidy stolen from someone who earned something will do nicely for bait."

Ah-ha!

So he's all jiggy with tax payer subsidized NPR firing Juan Williams for expressing an honest opinion on a given topic.

Glad we got him all sorted out ;-)

Faux Redneck it is from here on out...LOL.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:26 | 753990 Cheesy Bastard
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Faux Redneck it is then!  And by the way Faux, if we want to indicate Chinese, we will add rice paddy hats in our winking smiley faces like this <;)

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 21:59 | 753947 Red Neck Repugnicant
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@ nmewn

What's with the semicolon?

;-)

Are you fucking winking at me, or are you Chinese? 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 22:07 | 753965 nmewn
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@ nmewn

What's with the semicolon?

You progressive pricks have stolen the other half of my colon...LOL.

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 00:00 | 754107 ColonelCooper
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WIN!!!

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 04:37 | 754313 Hook Line and S...
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Colon? I wonder if anyone out there has the scent of RoBonerTraders colon looming large on their index finger. Anyways, that lizard chick invokes good vibrations for me. My type of reptilian bestiality.

and the women scream... "Hook line and sphincter, oooh...reptilian from the waste up, equine from the waste down!"

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