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The Debt Avalanche

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Today's Wall Street Journal featured a story about the upcoming "debt avalanche" faced by many of the major banks which have mountains of corporate bonds coming due.

Yet the U.S. Treasury offloaded another load of fresh fiatco bonds without a hitch, and Treasury yields proceeded to plunge again.  Why are the banks worried when so many "yield thirsty" investors are so anxious to lap up 1% and 2% 2-year bonds?  Why worry when the issuance of such 1% - 2% debt to replace 7% notes is likely to plunge funding costs even further, thus assuring vast profits in the future?

  COUPON MATURITY
DATE
CURRENT
PRICE/YIELD
PRICE/YIELD
CHANGE
TIME
3-Month 0.000 02/25/2010 0.03
/
.03
0.002 / .002 14:00
6-Month 0.000 05/27/2010 0.13
/
.13
-0.008 / -.008 14:20
12-Month 0.000 11/18/2010 0.26
/
.26
-0.018 / -.018 14:22
2-Year 0.750 11/30/2011 100-00
/
.75
0-01¾ / -.030 14:20
3-Year 1.375 11/15/2012 100-14
/
1.22
0-03 / -.032 14:13
5-Year 2.375 10/31/2014 101-05½
/
2.12
0-06+ / -.043 14:13

 

I mean, what CFO at a major bank really cares what happens after 5 years?  Chances are that he's going to be working somewhere else anyway:

1.  Near bankrupt entities like Fannie, Freddie, Ally Bank, AIG, etc. are always on the hunt for new CFO's.

2.  Enterprising new hedge funds are always looking for "experts" at raising money dirt cheap for the casino in order to lever returns.

3.  Board of Directors will fire him and he'll eject with a multi-million dollar parachute.

4.  New 26-year old mistresses invariably will demand that he relocate to Southern California or South Florida.

"So when are we moving to Los Angeles?  I hate this city."

Hey, no problems found here...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone...

I'll be taking the rest of the week off.

Happy tailgating!!!

 




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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 16:17 | Link to Comment _Biggs_
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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 16:23 | Link to Comment chet
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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 16:37 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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I wanted to be Britney Spears until Lady Gaga was invented.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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she is awesome (you may want to watch before viacom idiots delete it again) a true artist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSyNIWyQh4

Problems at Blackstone (BX) ???

Sequenom (SQNM) was en fuego today; something going on ther.

Any predictions on who wins the disco ball tonight on dancing with stars? I'm pullin for Mya and Dmitry because they are soooo hot, I mean who wouldn't want a 3 way with them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4OR9ImRFA0

 

 

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 11/24/2009 - 17:28 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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I feel bad for China. If they want to replace American consumption with internal demand, their young woman will have to emulate spoiled, entitled American whores like the Kardasians.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 11/24/2009 - 20:54 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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@Brett  don't you mean real housewives of Jersey?

http://cdn.sheknows.com/realitytvmagazine/2009/05/real-housewives-of-new-jersey.jpg

 

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 21:43 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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CW,

I don't watch TV or know these people. You're killing me. Alien and bizarre.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 21:59 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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We're doomed.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 23:03 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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@Ms  you don't need tv. hopefully you can get up to speed on gaga on youtube. the queen of england invited her to perform on december 7. real housewives are a waste of time.

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Altan311
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That is a sign that something is not as it seems with the queen right there. What monarch wants to see that tranny writhing about? 

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 02:01 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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WTF?!? Drag queens? RuPaul wanna-bes?

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Brett in Manhattan
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300 million Americans consume 10 trillion dollars a year; 1.3 billion Chinese, 1 trillion.

The latter has a long way to go.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 17:36 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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Mmmmmm Vodka!

 

Hey! These girls are just trying to break into show business. Give them a break!

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 20:39 | Link to Comment Master Bates
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I couldn't shoot a 28 on the FRONT NINE, let alone an eighteen hole championship course.  I shot a 29 on a par 3 once... :)

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 16:36 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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These purchases feel fictional. Fiction will not hold back an avalanche.

Your avalanche is too tame for my taste.

http://www.getoutdoors.com/goblog/uploads/avalanche.jpg

http://www.colorado.edu/geography/class_homepages/geog_3251_sum08/02_loo...

We should train them at the junior colleges to be CFOs, this would help with the unemployment problem, Obama could start this program now.

 

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 16:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 11/24/2009 - 17:31 | Link to Comment phaesed
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deflation folks.... the banks are now caught in a massive short squeeze of the "obvious trade" of shorting Treasuries... Dipshit wannabe cookie-cutter economists........

Want to be a famous bank economist? Have mommy and daddy pay for everything.

-(Any wonder why Keynesianism is so popular? And I'm not talking about Post-Keynesian's... they know what the fuck they're talking about).

 

http://www.chinaeconomicreview.com/today-in-china/2009_11_24/Credit_pressure.html

 

Credit pressure

By Tim Burroughs

China's financial regulators continue to tread the fine line between serving the nation's economic needs and keeping its banks in order The tug-of-war over monetary policy between China’s central bank and its banking regulator earlier this year reduced the country’s economic dilemma to a single conflict. On the one hand, the People’s Bank of China (PBoC) wanted to promote credit growth as a means of sustaining the economic recovery. On the other, the China Banking Regulatory Commission (CBRC), wary of past calamities, didn’t want domestic lenders doling out cash with abandon.

The tensions no longer spill over quite so keenly into the press, but after total new loans came to US$1.08 trillion in the first half of the year, the issue remains a pertinent as ever. So the regulators are treading carefully.

Reports that Beijing would asks major banks to increase their capital adequacy ratios to 13% next year – up from an average of around 11%, a shift it was estimated would leave Bank of China needing US$14.6 billion in fresh capital – were met with a swift denial by the CBRC. Rather than imposing across-the-board targets, the regulator said, banks have been warned to meet their current capital requirements or face sanctions. Punishments include limits on market access overseas investments and new branch openings.

The CBRC has been tightening its grip on lenders for a while now: The capital adequacy ratio increased by two percentage points to 10% at the end of last year; credit provisions must now total at least 150% of bad loans; and the issuance of subordinated bonds has been curtailed.

These are cautious tweaking of the regulatory system, not wholesale alterations in monetary policy. While more diligent enforcement of existing rules on capital adequacy requires banks to raise more money if they want to lend more money, a return of interest rate hikes, credit quotas and required reserve ratio increases (making banks hold back a higher proportion of their assets) isn’t likely. At least, not yet.

Shen Mingao, Citi’s chief China economist, expects a slow exit from stimulus conditions, with credit growth easing in 2010, but remaining at a faster pace than in normal years.

“In general, [interest] rate hikes do not happen at the beginning of a policy exit. Open market operations, hikes of bank reserve requirement rates, normalization of credit growth, project control and other administrative interventions can be expected to come before rate hikes are considered,” he wrote in a note dated November 23. “When rate hikes are unable to cool off the economy, credit control is often the last resort.”

Unless inflation jumps, deposits drop sharply or other central banks impose aggressive tightening measures, Shen doesn’t expect an interest rate hike until at least the third quarter of 2010.

So what of China’s banks? Will the CBRC’s tinkering (and it said on Monday that it won’t impose controls on the size of bank loans) be sufficient to stave off another non-performing loans (NPLs) crisis?

The credit explosion in China has probably led to a depreciation in loan quality, with money going to places from which it is unlikely to return. At the same time, while domestic banks still have much to learn about risk assessment, their judgment is far better than it was in the 1990s, when the seeds of the previous NPL problems were sown. It will take time for the truth to emerge. Analysts say that there is a lag of at least a year before problem loans appear as warning lights on banks’ balance sheets. Perhaps marking off certain debts as “special mention loans” (a concern, but not yet non-performing) will once again delay the impact.

For now, most banks – and most regulators – are more concerned about raising enough capital to meet next year’s credit demands. According to BNP Paribas, the nation’s 11 largest publicly traded banks may need to raise about US$43.9 billion to ensure they have capital for continued loan growth. Citi estimates that the A-share banks alone require US$16.5 billion by 2011, and that’s excluding US$15.5 billion in fundraising drives already announced.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 19:52 | Link to Comment Winisk
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I agree with the thrust of what you are saying here.  There is no going back.

With respect to capitalism distributing surplus wealth, I believe it is simpler than that.  In aggregate, wealth is steadily declining as the world population consumes it's finite amount of resources.  More people consuming fewer resources at an increasing pace is not a formula for wealth creation. Economies, however organized, simply redistribute the remainder of the world's resources.  Technology, scientific advancements, and the accumulated fruits of our labours built upon what has already been established provided an easier lifestyle to date, but this should not be confused with wealth.  Did the arrival of fire and the wheel create wealth, or did they simply make life easier?  Looking forward, do you see life on this planet getting easier or harder?  Richer or poorer?  I see wealth destruction.

The beauty of gold as a currency, as I see it, is that it too is finite and it's difficult to extract from the earth.  It reflects reality well.  If the gold standard existed, our measured individual wealth would be far less than our forefathers because it would have to be spread exceedingly thin to accommodate the growing populations.

This is my thinking for what it's worth.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 21:20 | Link to Comment phaesed
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Winisk...

1. Why in the hell would you want to go back to naivety and waste? Unbalanced pay scales, corrupt government officials paying each other off while fucking everyone but themselves. (They hire trannies for that), kickbacks, glaringly obvious illiteracy and buzz words? Going back is stupid, let's move forward.

2. If you want to understand wealth, read "The Nature of Capital and Income" by Irving Fisher in 1906 (didn't get published till 1913... the Fed paid him off to keep it out of circulation). Or read Jevons... there's a wealth of incredible economists who had it right wayyyyyy before Mises was a blip on the map, Cournot is the most advanced in the end and he published in 1837. Go figure.

 

Oh and FYI... Hayek used geometric analysis (Pure Theory), so why the fuck the majority of Austrians still refute legitimate analysis irritates the hell out of me.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 21:31 | Link to Comment Winisk
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Thanks for the suggested reading. 

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 07:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 22:12 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I had a slightly different take, they are someones' daughters acting big, craving approval, pretending to be ready for things they are just not quite ready to really take on.

But yeah, seeing my reaction, I had the too old moment too.

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 09:31 | Link to Comment FreddyInBangkok
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one of the benefits living in Bangkok is  ....

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 09:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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IN BONDS WE TRUST!

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 22:13 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Did you mean BLONDES? Stay on topic dude.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 19:36 | Link to Comment Steak
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Heres a fun one for anyone with a bloomie or can overlay graphs or can do that squinty eye thing where stuff merges together.

Look at 2yr corporates and 10yr corporates from 2003 to 2007.  Overlay those with the Fed funds rate.  Now your textbooks tell you that when the Fed is raising rates then bond folk will want to shorten their duration.  So if the Fed is hiking and you're sitting there with 30yr debt you'd be a likely seller...or so says your book.

But thats not what you see.  Instead the 2yr yields rise along with the Fed funds rate while yields on 10yr debt barely moves over the whole period.  Thats yer inverted yield curve, and my thesis is that we're at least moving toward flattening in a similar fashion.

The duration argument methinks breaks down when one knows how high the Fed is likely to raise rates.  If we go up to 2% on Fed funds, then 2yrs will be decimated, but a 10yr at 3.5% can still net a decent spread.

 Moral of the story under this thesis, when the Fed signals they're about to hike, it might well be a good time to go farther out on the yield curve and extend yer duration.  Food for thought.

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 09:28 | Link to Comment FreddyInBangkok
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are we there yet?

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$UST10Y:$UST2Y&p=D&yr=1&mn=3&dy=0&id=p38725068556

 

as an exercise do the same thing for the period 1929-1935 using Homestake instead of $GOLD.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 11/25/2009 - 02:09 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Der Vampir Tintenfisch

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 21:41 | Link to Comment deadhead
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less debt. more meat.

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 22:16 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Deadhead knows MsCreant always gots the goods. He asks, me delivers. In my email today:

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Tue, 11/24/2009 - 23:39 | Link to Comment deadhead
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MsCreant has the bestest posts!!!

Robo...MsCreant has been kicking your ass. bigtime.

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 22:37 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Have to love that SQNM squeeze late from the ILMN spillover...

Tue, 11/24/2009 - 23:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 11/25/2009 - 03:07 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Wed, 11/25/2009 - 06:02 | Link to Comment time123
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What if we use the remaining TARP money to pay ff US debt? Then give an equal amount of tax cuts to small businesses to spur economic growth. That will do it! Enough with the bailouts and printing money.

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Wed, 11/25/2009 - 11:44 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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So you would use the debt, to pay off the debt.  Hmmm.... I am not sure what to do with you...

 

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 06:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 11/25/2009 - 11:48 | Link to Comment SV
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Have a Happy Thanksgiving Robo - Please don't shack up with the likes of those girls with the Stoly, their sure to be "giving" something (probably a variety of things you would NOT be thankful for).

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