The Debt Ceiling Farce Is Ending... Or Is It?

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Sat, 07/16/2011 - 14:19 | 1462193 gorillaonyourback
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LMAO   extend and pretend

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 14:42 | 1462245 eureka
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Are you saying TeaPartiers Won't Risk US EMpire By Denying To Raise DEBT CEILING...?

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 15:01 | 1462279 AnAnonymous
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Teabaggers are doing what they do the best: teabagging.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 15:13 | 1462304 WestVillageIdiot
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You might not be a teabagger but you sure are a partisan cunt.  And I bet you have done your share of teabagging at the local frat house. 

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 15:22 | 1462335 AnAnonymous
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Speaking of frats, have people noticed how frats run the same initiation rituals as gangs?

Tells about the socialistic US mindset.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:17 | 1462393 Bay of Pigs
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And what Utopian Paradise do you hail from?

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 17:37 | 1462566 narapoiddyslexia
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How about a Million Gun March On Washington? Eh?

Always polite. Always legal. No one points a weapon except in self-defense.

Veteran's Day, 2011.

When we get there, we play it by ear.

And carry 21 day's provisions.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 22:43 | 1463047 Things that go bump
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Please see the Veterans' March on Washington for the script to that play.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 00:00 | 1463147 gall batter
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forget the provisions.  you'll be droned in a flash.  

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 11:31 | 1463558 grunion
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People who live in glass houses....

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:21 | 1462436 snowball777
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What kind of ignorant dumbass thinks that the fratboys (Dubya, Boehner, Cantor...) are socialists?! Socialism for corporations perhaps.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 18:59 | 1462756 Captain Planet
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what other kind of socialism have we had?

oh right, the USSR. wait....

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 19:09 | 1462797 snowball777
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The Otto von Bismarch kind. The Tito kind. The English kind (NIH). The Scandinavian kind.


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 00:22 | 1463171 i-dog
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You really haven't a clue! Next you'll tell us that you aren't a socialist!! ROFL

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 08:13 | 1463356 snowball777
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Sure I'm a socialist. I went to an elementary school on an airforce base paid for by taxpayers so I must be a least to pond-scum like you who think that everyone is a socialist.

Now go watch your Glenn Beck and collect your UE check like a good dog.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 10:52 | 1463480 JW n FL
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have you noticed that he never takes a position? he has nothing he stands for and only adds one line of bullshit so that you end up wasting your time engaging him instead of educating or helping others?


He is a plant, paid or not.. he is here to disrupt the flow of sourced and sited information.


just a heads up brother.. do what you will with him.. just wash your hands when you are done playing with it. I wouldn't want you to get sick, catch something from handling it.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 11:42 | 1463594 grunion
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It always saddens me when I read something like snowbal777 writes. It serves to remind me of the declining prevelance of civility in the US.

I suspect it contributes to the decline of our culture as well. At least the culture of being polite, aiding your neighbor, having a reasonably positive regard for your fellow man, productivity.

Today we have a culture of isolation, suspicion, blame and hate.

We're not gonna make it.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 12:10 | 1463688 snowball777
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My fellow man could meet me in the middle on that (or at least keep the false aspersions to himself, were he able).

In a sense, I'm a mirror...stick around; you'll see how I interact with people that are capable of civility like JW, ORI, Flak, and even some of the cons like NMewn and DochenRollingBearing.

Should I "take the high-road" when it comes to ignorant poo-flingers like i-dog and sun tzu? Perhaps, but it's a blog not an ice-cream social.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 12:24 | 1463734 blunderdog
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Misconceptions about one's own behavior abound.  I'm sure you're doing your best.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 16:15 | 1464370 JW n FL
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I have a life long afinity for Blue Russians.. that aside if you take issue with SnowBalls delivery I can only assume you must think me the devil himself! LULZ!!

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:36 | 1462459 toady
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I didn't know they 'jumped' people into frats...

You must kill someone to get into a frat?

I think I'll remain unaffiliated...

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:42 | 1462466 Michael
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65 incumbent congress critters thrown out of DC and replaced in 2008.

93 incumbent congress critters thrown out of DC and replaced in 2010.

"It shows there is strength in numbers. Of those 93 newly elected House members, more than a third consider themselves a member of the tea party, eager to push both parties to cut spending.

"We've got some big issues to work on here in Washington, D.C., and the American people are not patient," said Representative-elect Allen West, R-Fla.

On Monday, the huge new freshman class took a crash course on how Congress works.

Thirty four of them have never held elected office before. Seven of them are doctors, seven are farmers and 32 of them own small businesses. Just nine of the 93 are Democrats.

"We're calling ourselves the mighty nine," said Representative-elect Karen Bass, D.-Calif."

How many bums to throw out in 2012? How many? 365 or more?

How many incumbents were tossed out in state legislatures last November? 535?

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 18:23 | 1462643 snowball777
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Bang up job placing the 12 that proposed HR2411 in office.

What'll you do for your next trick, twinkies?

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 22:54 | 1463061 FEDbuster
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Once the iceberg was hit, it didn't matter who was the captain and crew of the Titanic.  We hit the iceberg in 2008, now it's just a question of when the ship goes under.  Time to get your lifeboat ready. 

Beans, bullets, band-aids and bullion, start to think of a simple diversified survival strategy. is a good place to start or check out AnalyticalSurvival on youtube:


Sat, 07/16/2011 - 23:02 | 1463075 Michael
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It'll be a shame telling hundreds of thousands of military personnel their services are no longer required as Uncle Sam is bankrupt and he doesn't have the money to pay them anymore.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 23:33 | 1463109 FEDbuster
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Isn't it something that defense of the Country is one of the only things these idiots in D.C. are supposed to do for us, but they may even screw that up, too. 

The guy who does AnalyticalSurvival is ex-special forces with lots of medical knowledge.  He has produced some very good videos on all aspects of survival.   His preps and organization are something to aspire to.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 23:55 | 1463141 AldousHuxley
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military = government job. subsidy for military industrial complex. Cut them off. Pentagon is full of paper pushers. If prostitution is world's oldest profession, then military jobs are world's oldest government jobs.


When your country is attacked, you don't need salary + government pension to bribe people into military.

Also uncle sam is bankrupted BECAUSE of military advantures.


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 11:07 | 1463502 JW n FL
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I do like almost everything you say.. but I have to say that..


Uncle Sam is Broke.. because..

Uncle Sam Taxed the shit out of the middle..

Uncle Sam gave Tax Breaks and Subsidies to his Corporate Lobby Dollar Wielding Friends..

Who moved 6 Million Manufacturing Jobs to China over the last 10 years..

and those Corporations were paid by the "We the People's" Tax dollars to undermine / gut America's Manufacturing and Tax Base.


We could have kept going to war.. except we gave away our tax base.. one better! We PAID Corporations to Undermine Our Tax Base and Our Manufacturing Base!


The Lobby Whores! were paid Lobby Dollars! to Provide Tax Breaks and Subsidies! to DESTROY! America's Manufacturing Base.. which as well undermined America's Tax Base!


50,000 Manufacturing Jobs a MONTH! were shipped Off Shore! for Tax Breaks and Subsidies that "We the People" paid for!


Government Paid Corporations "We the People's" Tax Dollars.. to DESTROY America's Manufacturing Sector and Tax Base that those jobs equated too.


what is 6 million people paying taxes worth.. not the top 1% who pay NOTHING! but the middle manufacturing jobs.. $50k to $100k average for the last decade?


25%? on $100k ='s $25k X's 6m ='s $1,500,000,000,000


That is nothing to sneeze at.


Now multiple that $1.5 Trillion times 10 years.. we are down $1.5 Trillion in Tax Revenue per year! for those Manufacturing Jobs..

and over ten years (its really 11 years now, so even more) it would be $15 Trillion..

So the same amount of money we paid to move off shore is what we as a Country owe..



Sun, 07/17/2011 - 11:11 | 1463507 JW n FL
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***** “Over the last ten years, China has mounted the biggest challenge to the U.S. manufacturing sector ever seen, threatening producers of steel, chemicals, glass, paper, drugs and any number of other items with prices they cannot match. Not coincidentally, the United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs every month during the same period.” *****


That is the 50,000 jobs a month.. equaling 6m jobs +++ becuae it has been 11 years now!!

Top U.S. Lobbying Banks Got Biggest Bailouts


1.    [PDF]

A Fistful of Dollars:Lobbying and the Financial Crisis; Financial ...

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A Fistful of Dollars: Lobbying and the Financial Crisis by. Deniz Igan ...


that is the lobby dollars! what else do you need to see? to wake the fuck up? let me know! and I will make it dumb enough for you to understand!


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 17:16 | 1464563 FEDbuster
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Sir James Goldsmith saw this coming 20 years ago when that fucktard Clinton was doing NAFTA and GATT.  The cunt in the interview who shilled for Clinton is now an economic advisor to Obama.  The globalists got everything they wanted 1% super rich, 9% middle class administrators and 90% lower middle class or poverty.  The US was sold out and dragged down to a Mexican like existence (including the possibility of bankruptcy and default).  The whole interview and debate is worth watching:


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 00:43 | 1463188 G-R-U-N-T
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"Teabaggers are doing what they do the best: teabagging."


Sun, 07/17/2011 - 12:54 | 1463810 G-R-U-N-T
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"I'm a "teabagger"...just not in the political sense."

Nor am I...Just stressing a hypocritical point.

Sun, 07/17/2011 - 08:30 | 1463363 Scroto Gaggins
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I'm a "teabagger"...just not in the political sense. 

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:05 | 1462405 chet
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"There is less than 168 hours in which we can be proven wrong. We hope we are, but we doubt it."

So ZH wants default?  Time to clarify what exactly you're angling for, Tyler.

Since libertarians are generally politically illiterate, here is all the analysis you need about which side will eventually cave and who's fault that is.  From Republican Lindsey Graham:

"Our problem is we made a big deal about this for three months," said Graham of the debt limit debate.  "How many Republicans have been on TV saying, 'I'm not going to raise the debt limit'? You know, Mitch [McConnell] says, 'I'm not going to raise the debt limit unless we talk about Medicare.' And I've said I'm not going to raise the debt limit until we do something about spending and entitlements.'"

Graham says now Republicans should have tempered their language early on.


"We shouldn't have said that if we didn't mean it... We've got nobody to blame but ourselves," Graham told reporters.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:33 | 1462453 macholatte
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Lindsey Graham is a redshirt Progressive. Nice try.

Here are some real facts:

There has not been a terrorist attack in the United States since Jack Bauer first appeared on television.


Terrorists dread the day in October that Daylight Savings Time ends. Jack Bauer gets 25 hours in which to kill them.


Jack Bauer sleeps with a night light because the dark is afraid of Jack Bauer


Kryptonite is not really from Krypton. It is made from Jack Bauer's crap, that is why it can kill Superman.


The war in Iraq will end when Jack Bauer vacations there.


Jack Bauer doesn't just piss excellence, he also shits gold. Bauer can single handedly end the recession.


As a boy, Jack Bauer interrogated his parents on Easter until they revealed the location and contents of each hidden egg.


Jack Bauer doesn't drink honey, he chews bees.


Jack Bauer named his cat 'Chuck Norris.' Why? Because he's a pussy.


Sat, 07/16/2011 - 17:37 | 1462567 Uncle Remus
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Jack Bauer named his cat 'Chuck Norris.' Why? Because he's a pussy.



Sat, 07/16/2011 - 20:29 | 1462871 Votewithabullet
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not in "71" . world class knock yer fuckin teeth out bad ass. all that jack bauer shit was funny. dunk shane.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 18:33 | 1462679 blunderdog
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Redshirt Progressive?

Jeez.  I thought he was just another gay sailor. 

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 20:31 | 1462874 Votewithabullet
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Sat, 07/16/2011 - 16:51 | 1462481 kito
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Chet what is your point?

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 17:20 | 1462532 Bay of Pigs
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His point is to show that he is a partisan douchebag.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 19:30 | 1462816 LowProfile
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Sun, 07/17/2011 - 14:34 | 1464094 gmrpeabody
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Sat, 07/16/2011 - 17:25 | 1462543 Ricky Bobby
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Those illiterate libertarians, so quaint, they still want to believe in the Bill of Rights. Oh how the world has moved on from those evil White men.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 18:22 | 1462640 snowball777
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Let's just say they tend to be more keen on some amendments than others and leave it at that.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 22:35 | 1463039 CompassionateFascist
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Yeah...Repubes had both houses of Congress + PreZ, March '01 thru March '07. Where wuz all thus Fiscal Responsibility conservocrap than? They spent debt like drunken whores. Now, if Zero hangs tough, offers nada, and Repubes OK debt ceiling hike, that's it for the Repub Pty: splits along right/left lines. And good riddance to the StupidEvilGoyParty. next: get rid of the SmartEvilJewParty, and we're cookin'.  

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 21:36 | 1462960 Stares straight...
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I live in SC and unfortunately, Graham is my She-senator.  We always try to do the opposite of what Graham says.  It is tradition.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 15:08 | 1462293 lolmao500
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Geopolitical risk on?

Israel will probably attack Iran in September, a veteran CIA officer who spent 21 years in the Middle East, including in Lebanon and Syria, told a Los Angeles radio show on Tuesday.

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 15:12 | 1462298 cosmictrainwreck
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"they" said the same thing last year....just about this time, forcasting Aug-Sept, in fact.... US Navy was building up "presence" and blah blah blah

Sat, 07/16/2011 - 15:14 | 1462308 WestVillageIdiot
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I think this is about year number 6 where an Israeli attack on Iran is imminent.  Something tells me the market might see it as bullish. 

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