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    There is unfortunately no basis for renewed optimism that this current litigation will have any meaningful impact on precious metals manipulation – with respect to either silver or gold.

"Deja Vu All Over Again" - Jeff Gundlach's Latest Set Of Contrarian Observations

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Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:09 | 1163320 disabledvet
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"90% of this game is half mental," too.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:17 | 1163343 Muir
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If you see nothing else in the presentation, see page 18.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:08 | 1163679 linrom
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If you subtract payroll taxes, you're back at the pre WWII level.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:45 | 1163782 ArsoN
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Pg 18 on the doc owner or the actual presentation?  If you go with the presentation it brings up a valid point.  I just wish they would first fix the monetary policy (so stop targeting "asset"/stock prices) before jacking up progressive taxation.  

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 02:01 | 1164295 Popo
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If you see nothing else in this article, note that one of the primary holders of US debt is... wait for it... wait for it... The Social Security "TRUST FUND".


LOLOLOL.  Now here's a question for the politicians:  If it's a "trust fund", how come it's consdered "debt" and not an "asset"?   (And therein lies the fallacy of the semantic use of the words "trust fund").  In other words, there is no trust fund.  The so-called "lock box" is nothing but a box of IOU's. 



Wed, 04/13/2011 - 03:06 | 1164372 Urban Redneck
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The data was from September 2010.  Throw in FED buying and foreign outflows, we are well on the way to exactly three owners of US Bonds 1) The FED 2) The US Taxpayer 3) Regulated US Financial Institutions (Bank, Insurance, Pension).

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:18 | 1163350 Cdad
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Good grief....still going through it, but "No market for old men" summarizes one of our current problems...with the geriatric segment of the syndicate using their experiences to make calls on things that they have no fixed reference to measure against.  Hence, the constant clatter of, "At $98 per the S&P, slap a historical ratio on it and...presto, 20% upside from here" bullshit we are subjected to every day by the laziest bunch of "journalists" our nation has ever known...aka those that simply take their talking points from said geriatric criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers and call it "programing"...aka The BlowHorn [aka CNBC].

So keep kicking ass, Tyler...and now back to yet another ream of shit you have put to me.....

Cdad drinking one big ass martini...and secretly hoping for a J. Dimon whining rant tomorrow....

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:50 | 1163438 treemagnet
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Why secretly hoping - I want finger pointing, blaming, Jerry Springer show type shit - maybe a thrown chair, brawl - o.k. now I'm secretly hoping....

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:29 | 1163568 Cdad
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We are all secretly hoping for yet another "it hurts to be a banker" fucking bullshit J. Dimon swamp of nonsense.  And then...to watch it impact K. Finerman on Nanosecond Money...oo la la.  I could lose 5% tomorrow and still feel like I had a great day.  Just so happens that I am not so good at that whole "secretly" thing....but I do try.

Oh...and...FUCK J. DIMON BTW!


Wed, 04/13/2011 - 08:34 | 1164648 Ricky Bobby
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"No market for old men" Rack it! another gem added to the ZH lexicon.

Res publica mortuus est, vivat imperium


Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:26 | 1163367 silvertrain
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Housing numbers on 68-69-70 are U L G Y ...And another Yogi for that would be,

"the future aint what it used to be"

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:45 | 1163429 mrcmmm
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Why anyone would buy a house right now.....the amount of fresh inventory that will be flooding in from foreclosures for years......

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:03 | 1163478 cxl9
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Depends on the market, I suppose. I've been looking at rental properties lately (to add to the 1.5 that I own now). Prices have come down far enough in some areas that I am finding properties that are immediately cash-flow positive. And rents have been climbing. Remember: all of those people foreclosed out of their houses will still need somewhere to live. They don't just disappear, although I guess some of them migrate back to their native countries..

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:27 | 1163571 Double down
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Blame Canada

Wed, 04/13/2011 - 03:22 | 1164383 cowpieflapjack
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Blame Tim Hortons

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 23:08 | 1163994 PulauHantu29
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"107: How many months it would take to sell banks’ current and shadow inventory of foreclosed homes.

Banks’ vast pile of foreclosed homes doesn’t appear to be diminishing. That’s a troubling sign for the future of the housing market."

107 Months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even in Dog Years, that's ALOT of inventory ...added to the thousands of new homes builders are piling on the market every week....

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 19:59 | 1163464 ZeroAffect
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Home Builders are becoming extinct...default rates are still headed up, up and away...the majority of houses that sold in my area this winter were VACANT.  

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:08 | 1163490 silvertrain
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Not to mention materials going sky high like copper etc.. It will not be cost effective to stick build vs buying and remodeling or some variable of that for a long time..Atleast until the supply gets sucked up.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:03 | 1163485 I am Jobe
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Don;t we need more service jobs paying $10.00 per hour to get this economy moving?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:48 | 1163628 Seasmoke
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people (friends and family) are actually asking me , do i think they should drive over 1 hour, one way, to take $10 an hour jobs with no benefits......i hope they get the answer when i get up and walk away

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:10 | 1163503 RobotTrader
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Looks like JPM earnings have been leaked.

ES futures just took off.

Same with gold and oil.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:17 | 1163521 RobotTrader
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Bank of Japan??

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:23 | 1163550 bob_dabolina
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Top 10 Shortfall States As A % of 2011 Budget: slide 64

What do all those states have in common?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 21:12 | 1163689 New_Meat
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kinda' trick question: Jersey, Maine, and Cow Hampshire all at least made Governor reversals last time around. - Ned

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:26 | 1163567 Double down
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The QE pages were great as well.  QE makes yields and stocks go up.  Also thought it was neat to see how much the S&P outperformed Shanghai.




Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:43 | 1163611 linrom
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Interestingly the US Civil Service Sector plus the US Military Retirement Fund own combined total of 8.1% of US Debt or just over $1 trillion dollars. In comparison, Social Security Fund owns 17.8% or just over $2.4 Trillion. The question that one might ask is " when will US Civil Service and Military Retirement Funds exceed Social Security Fund obligation?

By my caculations, the SS Fund should be at 32% in relation to Governement employees given that 4 out of 5 are not Government employees. To me that implies that Government retirement is almost twice as generous as Social Security.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 20:48 | 1163621 Seasmoke
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easily twice as generous , it sure starting to look like 10 times as generous, whatever the numbers, it is unsustainable

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 23:09 | 1163995 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Angry combat veterans are a worse scenario for TPTB than a bunch of boomers protesting SS cuts.


Wed, 04/13/2011 - 11:41 | 1165305 Monday1929
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Exactly. That is why I fear that if the Rule of Law is not restored, veterans who have lost homes and jobs and feel that the System they risked life and limb for has failed them, will decide to target leading bankers for assassination.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 22:23 | 1163894 crzyhun
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Tour de force!! Leaves gross in the dust!

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 13:22 | 1184716 ndspg
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