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Do High Frequency Algos Dream Of Electronic Corn?

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Some late night observations courtesy of our liquidity providing overlords: Sky Net has morphed from "adding liquidity" in FNM, to Citi, to Amazon, to Intel, and following a massively overcrowded computerized shindig where every outfit's two bit amateur algo has crashed the party, is now actively managing the price of corn. Behold high frequency trading in September corn futures. But don't call it churning - the robots are. adding. liquidity. When JPM decides to add some computerized luvin' to PM fixings, look for the Hurst exponent in gold to go from 0.5 to around 666, as gold microvolatility makes widows and orphans out of the families of precious metals traders.

h/t Sam

 

 

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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 03:00 | 488284 i.knoknot
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we really are at their mercy, aren't we...

to heck with zero-hedge, i think i'll go do something useful for a change... like write a letter to my senator.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 03:02 | 488286 defender
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Nogger has been noticing alot of vol in the commodities in the last few days, as well.

http://nogger-noggersblog.blogspot.com/

a hilarious grains blog with some good insights

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 03:06 | 488287 chump666
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I bet none of you traders have followed a tight algo bid/offer spread, as it got tighter bought in at the price broke out on the updside huh?.

i got no prob with the machines...they neutralize all the medium/small borgerkae firms.  but that's it...oh yeah they create one week market correction in 10mins. you gotta respect that

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 04:34 | 488323 Popo
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A better question:  Do HFT algos directly lead to starvation in the third world?

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 05:07 | 488342 Tense INDIAN
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i bet they do......

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 08:57 | 488422 ATTILA THE WIMP
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So who cares? That's why we call them "third world." The dinks, darkies and dagoes either pony up their oil and pineapples for our IOUs or we blast 'em back to the stone age and let the IMF strangle any survivors.

First World: USA

Second World: Foreigners with nukes

Thrid World: Foreigners without nukes

It's the Second World that bugs me. Russia and China (foreigners with nukes) have formed the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and there ain't jack s**t we can do about it.

Even Lindsay Lohan had to go to jail eventually and pretty soon we'll be brewing vodka for the Ruskies and pulling Chinese tourists around in rickshaws.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 04:37 | 488327 Ted K
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I wonder what Sean Young is dreaming right now??? (Attempts to roar like the MGM lion twice.)

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 08:27 | 488402 MachoMan
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she's dreaming of riding the white pony.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 04:44 | 488332 Mentaliusanything
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Does BP stand behind Hayward

Yes - with knives

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=abSxMFbnWSJs&pos=2

Lies Lies and more lies until the truth must come out

See Ya baby - like I said. Corporatism is a den of thieves wearing nice $500 suits hiding sharp objects.

At least he gets his "life back" lucky fuck

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 06:08 | 488361 Oh regional Indian
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That is just brilliantly rich writing. From headliner to tail-liner. *hat tip*

Question is, what do we dream of, Collective Heap?

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:02 | 488374 newstreet
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Check out pork bellies.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:55 | 488387 MeTarzanUjane
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Nice volume. Must be the GentleBreeze Algo.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 08:17 | 488394 DarkAgeAhead
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Gentlemen, this is why you buy prime agricultural land near abundant fresh water, not gold.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 09:33 | 488442 MachoMan
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Easier said than done.  If you're just getting started, good luck with that.  The stampede has been ongoing for many years...

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 11:48 | 488575 DarkAgeAhead
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True to some extent. 

But in certain areas, the ecological destruction that is industrial agriculture has created much "marginal" land, but that actually is highly-productive, excellent soil.

As example, you couldn't pay me to buy land in, say, most of Iowa.  But in parts of extended Appalachia, good land that is proximate to 25% of the world's freshwater (at a larger scale), with barns, etc. is still relatively cheap.   Land's an inherently local thing, a statement that I'm sure is no surprise to any here.  You just need to know where to look.

Much depends on how "subsistence" one wants to go...

But the wealth of the future is most certainly land.  As it always was, it will again be.

EDIT - out west as well, though that presents a different pattern of issues to be concerned with!

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 14:21 | 488867 Cathartes Aura
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EDIT - out west as well, though that presents a different pattern of issues to be concerned with!

 

. . .like the "tic tac toe" skypainting?      *nods*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEFITGpXwZk&NR=1&feature=fvwp

(WARNING: turn down your speaker volume, good / short tutorial to the agenda)

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 21:08 | 489494 DarkAgeAhead
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Hah, not what I expected! 

Had to listen on mute.  I assume the narration provided the tutorial as to why NATO is dousing us?

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 08:29 | 488403 DavidC
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Tyler,
Superb!

DavidC

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 09:18 | 488435 ZeroPoint
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Of course you have to wonder how many HFT rules engines are out there, that ended up generating this sequence of prices.

I wonder what Goldman Sachs does when it genuinely wants to short commodity futures, when you have this kind of bullshit going on now.

 

 

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 09:43 | 488455 Lux Fiat
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Instead of Rick Deckard running through the streets of a futuristic LA, the headline gives me visions of him running through a field of corn.  Does corn have blades or leaves?  He expands his business into "retiring" market androids, eerr, algos.

Nice reference to one of my all time favorites.

Mon, 07/26/2010 - 13:51 | 488822 TheGoodDoctor
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Nice Blade Runner/Philip K. Dick reference Tyler. :)

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