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Do You See What Happens Larry When You Ban Naked Shorting, CDS Trading And Institute A Transaction Tax With A 6 Hour Notice?

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With Merkel also about to announce a transaction tax, America is about to see its population of HFT scalpers, front runners, predatory algos and other binary mutants explode as all the German math Ph.D.'s come to New York. In the meantime, if you listened to Goldman earlier today and covered you lost, as usual. Santelli now sees EURUSD going to 1.20 promptly. Additionally, with tens of billions in sovereign CDS scrambling to unwind overnight with no prior warning, you will see some seismic moves via arb desks. When Lehman blew up, CDS traders at least got a heads up that Sunday. This crisis is rapidly becoming worse than Lehman.




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Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:45 | Link to Comment Mae Kadoodie
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why the gold sell-off?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:48 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
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Goddamn! With TEN YEARS of data that has been published by GATA, how many times is someone going to ask this same question?????

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Kataphraktos
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Why the gold selloff?

(I couldn't help myself)

Actually, today is one day I don't see manipulation... gold is actually holding up very well today. If you see it head for 1200 in a rapid, violent move, then start suspecting...

 

And for God's sake, if you want to bet on long gold, use at the money calls, limit your downside against the Fed-backed JPM nitwits.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:57 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
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Gold does not have to plummet for there to be manipulation.  The best example is the 2% rule, which has been enforced for years.

Gold/silver are simply NOT free markets, yet!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Easy, Hog. Don't make me tase you, bro.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:22 | Link to Comment John McCloy
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  Damn you hog. You just forced me to go watch that tool get tased again on Youtube. It never gets old.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Sucks_to_be_Smart
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moronic computers who don't know which way correlations go on an hour by hour/day by day basis? 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:55 | Link to Comment sheeple
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option week; surge protection team doing their things

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Pegasus Muse
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Option expiration week?

That or "smart money" is bailing 'cause Cramer's on the tube pumping gold. 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:46 | Link to Comment London Dude Trader
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Flash Crash #2 today?

The mother of all flash crashes?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Pat Shuff
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    THE SECOND TOP COMING

    Churning and churning in the widening gyrations
    The fall guy cannot hear the Fabulous Fab;
    Things fall apart; the averages cannot hold;
    Mere algorithms are loosed upon the world,
    The red-inked tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremonies of insolvencies are drowned in liquidity;
    The best are charged but avoid conviction, while the worst
    Are full of flash orders.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Top Coming is at hand.
    The Second Top Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of CNBC
    Troubles my sight: a waste of dark pools;
    A shape with lithe body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indulgent no-fat dessert ads
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty seconds of stony asleep-at-the-switch
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking ticker,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards bell-ringing to be born?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:20 | Link to Comment chet
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+1  Nice work

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Rider
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+1 poethic

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:13 | Link to Comment mrhonkytonk1948
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If we could only tie Yeats rolling in his grave to a generator, there would be no energy problems! Good job!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:46 | Link to Comment The Rogue Trader
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Germany is building a "roach motel"

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Cheeky Bastard
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Nothing good came out of Gottingen since the 30s.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Double down
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Agreed

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Yophat
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Do your friends a favor. Tell them to "batten down the hatches" because there's a HARD RAIN coming. Tell them to get out of debt and sell anything they can sell (and don't need) in order to get liquid. Tell them that Richard Russell says that by the end of this year they won't recognize the country. They'll retort, "How the dickens does Russell know -- who told him?" Tell them the stock market told him.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dow-theorist-richard-russell-sell-everything-liquid-you-wont-recognize-america-by-the-end-of-the-year-2010-5#ixzz0oIumLLaK
Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Interesting. Has Russell ever had a freak-out before?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:12 | Link to Comment John McCloy
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  My girlfriend is not thinking me too crazy now for forcing her to liquidate her 401k at Dow 11k last month. When she called the broker up he was saying to her, "I do not understand you finally recovered most of your losses and now you want to sell?"

I told her he would say something similar to that and told her to tell him this, "My boyfriend said to say I am no longer a willing participant in the ponzi scheme" 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Dantzler
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Love it!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:45 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Awesome.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:49 | Link to Comment koaj
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silly TD, central planners and central bankers know best

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:50 | Link to Comment Whizbang
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This is What Happens Larry! This is What Happens When You F*** a Speculator in the A**!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:02 | Link to Comment wagefreedom
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ha ha ha ha-- what is that from?? I can't find it in my Google!!!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:08 | Link to Comment John McCloy
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The Big Lebowski

" Your like a child Angela.Like a child who wanders into the middle of a financial revolution.Angela you are out of your element!"

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:14 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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If you like that line, you will love this movie. Go watch it.

 

I'm not sure I can fully trust another human being who doesn't like TBL.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:17 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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I keep telling myself I really need to watch that damn movie.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Vecon
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Won the oscar for best movie ever made!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Kegfreak
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and yes Donnie, we can go to In&out Burger after the crash!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Mercury
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These guys clearly don't know what the hell they're doing at this point but I for one do not have a problem with banning naked short selling per se. In at least some circumstances (in equities anyway) it gives the sellers' side of the market a mechanical advantage:  load up on puts/CDS etc. and give the order to essentially short the float at the market. BAM! Not a foolproof bear strategy but it can be hard for (an especially) smaller company to defend against. 

In the soverign debt/CDS arena I'm not sure you really can "ban" anything with much effectiveness.  If you put the squeeze on in one place it will come out another.

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Good Meredith Whitney interview from yesterday:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1496578146&play=1

 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:50 | Link to Comment DonnieD
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Why was the Euro ever valued 30% higher than the dollar in the first place?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:09 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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Metric System.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Double down
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HAAAAAAHAAAAA  +1/4, No, no, no +10 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment woolly mammoth
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excellent!!!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:08 | Link to Comment jbowman
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nice

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Mark of Zerro
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+100

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Mark of Zerro
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+100

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:23 | Link to Comment Mark of Zerro
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+100

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Fazzie
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Funniest 2 word witty comeback award of the day!!

 +10 banannas !!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 23:36 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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LOL. They were always valued the same. America just couldn't do the conversion.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Silver just moved through 1st support at $18.88...what happens next will be decisive....

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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There she goes.Silver to move to $22 overnight, watch.......

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:12 | Link to Comment geminiRX
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I hope so. Bought 30oz physical last week for just under 20 bucks per oz. Yah, getting in a little late, but the way markets have been reacting lately is a little disconcerning....

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:14 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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That will be interesting...it's almost 19. right now.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:20 | Link to Comment GoodBanker
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I'm holding you to that one LH! (I wouldn't hurt if you're right, but bold and daring need to be held accountable) Cheers!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Cheers!  And if I may, I will hold to breaking $20.92 in 24 hours, as that is the exact number I have been waiting for to start the fist leg of the break out ($20.92 is the old peak circa May '08).  Note, this breakout will end with silver moving to $330 an ounce in the next year or two, this while gold moves to $3300 an ounce ($3300/$330 conservative estamate, and high estamate at $20,000/$2000).  I have silver to gold at 10/1.  Not sure where the cross will land, variables are gold(platinum)/dollar/oil.  It could be $10,000/$1000 or $3300/$330 for example, but 10/1 is the end result.  I also have the Dow Jones on par with gold.  This is all on a two year time line.

Once we hit that top ($20.92), I think it will pause for a few days, capitulate violently, and then continue up.  I have been waiting for this moment, and I think we are now on the doorstep.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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Let the $100 gallon of gas commence!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:56 | Link to Comment dcb
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all for transaction tax. just enough to make hft not work. it is insane. they pay these fools to run hft on their systems, so in effect they are paid to trade on an exchange. it costs me to trade, it should cost them. charge them two bucks a trade and watch how fast trading for two pennies a share is gone. a merket may have to actually move based on some economic rationale. not momentum computer algos.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Spaceman Spiff
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Support the transaction tax at your own risk with these jokers instituting it.

 

Like the PTB are smart enough or care enough to distinguish between the small trader and these hft.   Anyone who trades is a fat cat to be beaten for political expediency.  

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:56 | Link to Comment sheeple
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1.2266

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:58 | Link to Comment dcb
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silver and gold move down because of deleveraging. when most of the money in the market is borrowed this is what happens. it is why margin, leverage, must be limited in speculative markets. having hft leverage up is a market disaster and one of the main reasons for the collapse

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Xibalba
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Das ist wunderbar!

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Captain Obviousness
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What is wrong with banning naked shorting?  It's fraud per se.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:16 | Link to Comment steve3828
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Isn't it already banned?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Double down
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Yeah, Do not like what you see, close your eyes.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Popo
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Yeah, but now it's double-secret banned.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:29 | Link to Comment mikla
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Yes, naked shorting is bad, and already banned.  However, in this case, the regulation shuts down the naked CDS markets, and you will no longer be able to hedge against EU bonds.

Ooops.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:09 | Link to Comment geminiRX
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Ok, if there is a flash crash today everyone keep their eyeballs peeled for odd stock prices (i.e. the ability to buy P&G for 1 cent a share). At 1 cent a share, I am game. The whole "NYSE won't honour the trade" is a sham. I heard there may be a class action lawsuit from the last flash crash on P&G. Did anyone get the opportunity to buy P&G during the last crash?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:15 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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It'd be funny if everybody put in orders for hundreds of stocks at 1cent.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:28 | Link to Comment geminiRX
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I should put an order in for Apple at this price. Harry would be proud of me.....

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Duesco
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Do you mean funny "ha ha" or funny "omg where the hell did all of my market cap go"?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Hawkeye Pierce
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Zerohedge RULES if for no other reason than constantly quoting Walter Sobchak.

Isn't LIBOR OIS a great confidence builder for us shorties?
SHHH don't tell anybody about it.  It's rallying.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:32 | Link to Comment bob resurrected
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EU leaders need to hire a better PR firm or they are deliberately tanking the euro. Since I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, it must be deliberate. If they devalue quickly they can sell bonds easier where it settles? Guess I'll be greedy and wait a little to trade dollars for euros.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:34 | Link to Comment trillion_dollar...
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Anyone else notice that the 10 yr is now under 3.40?

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:46 | Link to Comment What_Me_Worry
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I publicly rescind any prior comments I have had on the Euro.  I did not think it was possible to have worse PR than what the EU has done lately.

US may have horrible financial policies.  However, you have to hand it to Bernanke's crew for managing it in the PR forum so well.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 14:56 | Link to Comment EireWhiteTrash
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What happened to gold exactly when Lehman imploded? Explain...

So if Euro collapses, capital will rush to USD correct? USD Index will strengthen because it's weighted heavily on the Euro. So wouldn't this drop gold and silver for awhile? Until entire world realizes USD is shit? World will finally wake up the fact the Bernanke printed money like it was going out of style...then BAM! gold - silver to the moon when those US bonds implode.

 

 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:32 | Link to Comment Spaceman Spiff
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Merkel to push for international transaction tax... sigh.

http://imarketnews.com/node/13621

 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:32 | Link to Comment Spaceman Spiff
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Merkel to push for international transaction tax... sigh.

http://imarketnews.com/node/13621

 

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Goods
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Hey leo remember this?

Thanks for quoting me, and as far I can tell, calm is restored and the markets are heading up again. Not good for gold.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 16:03 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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He's probably too busy attending to his margin calls.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 16:07 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Tue, 05/18/2010 - 16:07 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Tue, 05/18/2010 - 16:11 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Tue, 05/18/2010 - 16:27 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Tue, 05/18/2010 - 15:46 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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And to think that I ALMOST covered @ around 1.25 ish....

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Arturo
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It is an "undercover" devaluation folks. We want 1 EUR = 1.1 USD.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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I think the Germans smell another Lehman Brothers out there and are getting ahead of the curve.  Something doesn't feel right in the market and it almost has a feeling that somebody told the truth and others are getting whispers about the truth and are running to protect against Lehman II.

Tue, 05/18/2010 - 20:49 | Link to Comment boeing747
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I'm thinking same like Eire but will buy Gold by the end of this year or start of next year, meanwhile I'm preparing a shopping list for German made tools now I may finally afford.

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