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there is a monster in the house, but the TV is on,ipod rang and i have a date tonite
or, Oh this will take care of itself
or, ME? i cant do nothen bout tis
or, i got a job with the government, What tent cities?
300 million, most having no clue
This reeks of genocide as the masses begin to suffer the ill effects of treason and thievery.
Some of you with monetary buffers have no clue of the suffering amongst our people. No job, no income often translates into greater harm as crime rises due to basic needs not met. Husbands and wifes fight, employees come to shoot their worksites coworkers and bosses. Some fly airplanes into federal buildings. All the result of an unjust lawless country.
Waiting for it to fall from within may be a long wait , i have no clue, some of you might. I got the impression from reading here daily that it would indeed fall from within. But much time has passed thinking that and here we still are with the same complaints.
Is it cowardice, what is it, that we have no recourse to being raped and robbed, that we all sit still while being rolled over?
Is TV and the media lies that effective? The internet is alive with folks like me, not entirely clueless. Having had less than an 8th grade education i freely admit i do not know how to proceed.
Perhaps is me being german, but i cannot live happily with the status quo.
I have freed myself, shut business, refusing to use or own the "dollar"
Bought some silver, gave one each to 300 of my small community, planted a Large garden, tried often to clue neighbors in and annoy folks at the market, asken " hey are you stocking up for the coming hyperinflation?"
Yes i have a shotgun and ammo, tools and musical instruments. Prepared as i may be, googling EARTH i see the masses in their many houses and wonder how the hell they will eat when it falls apart as it is doing now.
So i believe in action and noticed how few took 500 out of the bank and how many still trade on a market they know well to be illegitemate.
I am profoundly dissapointed by the lack of real men of character to take a stand. I expect you all feel you have too much to lose. I expect because of such tight hold it will escape you none the less.
Yet it is those of you who are moneid and most at risk of greater loss who should stand against the monster, against the thieves and pirates.
Stand and deliver...or whimper. Choose well
Milestones seems to have noted, correctly imho, that the CONgress, directed by its legion of lobbyists, and aided by corrupted socialist Supremes, has steadily delegated all its real duties to a cadre of insiders who are quietly creating a perfect fascist structure for the One World Government, driven from the inside by a One World Currency, which will be controlled by the Fed. The DONK bill succeeds in eliminating the rule of law, and even excludes its actions from review by the courts, and turns all power to regulate money, and the value thereof, over to a cadre of insider bureaucrats. Thus completes the transfer of control from we the people to we the banksters. Not only will the DONK bill not prevent the next financial crash, it insulates those engineering the crash, and institutionalizes the concept and procedures needed to transfer bad debts from private financial companies directly to the government. This completes the capture of the economy and all future tax collections; all profits now flow to the private banks, and the entire economy, including all corporations and all citizen-slaves are now fully owned by the government/financial complex. If there were any where else to go, I would think it is (past) time to go. Like an advnced brain cancer, the kleptocracy has now insinuated itself so completely that attacking it will kill the patient.
I am reposting my first submission to ZH of some 2 months ago as it relates to the Federal Reserve. The same objections I made @ the FED applies here. Congress does not have the authority to grant such sweeping powers. I contend that the Reserve Act of 1913 is not only unconstitutional--it is VOID. Milestones
The Trials and Tribulations of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913
There has been, over the last several months that I have been reading ZH, issues raised concerning the Federal Reserve and The Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The almost unanimous opinion of the readers here as well as those blogs were the topic has come up such as Market Ticker, Jesse’s Café Americain, Naked Capitalism, Mish and others too numerous to mention all decry the “FED” and their propensity for large scale plundering of our economy among other peccadillos’ .
I would contend that after reviewing the circumstances of the FED, its origins and its daily operations, the FED is not only illegal and unconstitutional; that it is also void by law, and has been since its inception in 1913.
I will interject here and now, I am not an attorney. Hopefully the arguments I will lay out below will bring up the issue to be judged by what appears to be one of the most knowledgeable, well-educated and outspoken group on the web. I post below for your consideration, comments and rebuttal.
The Federal Reserve Act was passed by Congress in the last days of December by a handful of Senators who had not left for Christmas break. The House had passed the bill earlier. President Wilson then signed it into law.
The concerns of those who oppose the FED generally center on Article I Section 8 (5) (18).That particular part of the U.S. Constitution reads in part: Article I Section 8 (5) says (Section 8)” Powers of Congress. The Congress shall have power: (5) To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin—“.
Herein lay my problem and question. The Constitution says “Congress shall have power—to regulate the value thereof.” That is what the Constitution says. Congress shall have the power to do. Oh, -I forgot, Congress apparently delegated that authority to the new kid on the block; the FED.
That delegation of power to the FED is my question. Did Congress have the authority to do so under the U.S. Constitution? So let us go to rulings by the Supreme Court to see what they had to say about this issue of delegation of authority.
Panama Refining Co. v Ryan 293 U.S. 388 1935
“The Constitution provides that 'All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.' Article 1, 1. And the Congress is empowered “To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution' its general powers.” Article 1, 8, par. 18. The Congress manifestly is not permitted to abdicate or to transfer to others the essential legislative functions with which it is thus vested. Undoubtedly legislation must often be adapted to complex conditions involving a host of details with which the national Legislature cannot deal directly. The Constitution has never been regarded as denying to the Congress the necessary resources of flexibility and practicality, which will enable it to perform its function in laying down policies and establishing standards, while leaving to selected instrumentalities the making of subordinate rules within prescribed limits and the determination of facts to which the policy as declared by the Legislature is to apply. Without capacity to give authorizations of that sort we should have the anomaly of a legislative power which in many circumstances calling for its exertion would be but a futility. But the constant recognition of the necessity and validity of such provisions and the wide range of administrative authority which has been developed by means of them cannot be allowed to obscure the limitations of the authority to delegate, if our constitutional system is to be maintained.”
The Court observed that 'it was impracticable for Congress to provide general regulations for these various and varying details of management,' and that, in authorizing the Secretary of Agriculture to meet local conditions, Congress 'was merely conferring administrative functions upon an agent, and not delegating to him legislative power.'
Thus, in every case in which the question has been raised, the Court has recognized that there are limits of delegation which there is no constitutional authority to transcend. We think that section 9(c) goes beyond those limits. As to the transportation of oil production in excess of state permission, the Congress has declared no policy, has established no standard, has laid down no rule. There is no requirement, no definition of circumstances and conditions in which the transportation is to be allowed or prohibited.
If section 9(c) were held valid, it would be idle to pretend that anything would be left of limitations upon the power of the Congress to delegate its lawmaking function. The reasoning of the many decisions we have reviewed would be made vacuous and their distinctions nugatory. Instead of performing its lawmaking function, the Congress could at will and as to such subjects as it chooses transfer that function to the President or other officer or to an administrative body. The question is not of the intrinsic importance of the particular statute before us, but of the constitutional processes of legislation which are an essential part of our system of government
FIELD V CLARK 143 US 649 1892
“That congress cannot delegate legislative power to the president is a principle universally recognized as vital to the integrity and maintenance of the system of government ordained by the constitution.
: 'The legislature cannot delegate its power to make a law, but it can make a law to delegate a power to determine some fact or state of things upon which the law makes, or intends to make, its own action depend. To deny this would be to stop the wheels of government. There are many things upon which wise and useful legislation must depend which cannot be known to the law-making power, and must therefore be a subject of inquiry and determination outside of the halls of legislation.'
That no part of this legislative power can be delegated by congress to any other department of the government, executive or judicial, is an axiom in constitutional law, and is universally recognized as a principle essential to the integrity and maintenance of the system of government ordained by the constitution. The legislative power must remain in the organ where it is lodged by that instrument.”
Well now, it appears by the language of the above two cited Supreme Court decisions, i.e.: Panama of 1935 and Field of 1892, the Federal Reserve Act is bracketed by 2 separate decisions by the Supremes; one prior to the Fed act of 1913 and one after; that the court has said that Congress does not have the authority to delegate the power “to regulate the value thereof” as that power is directly mentioned in the Federal Constitution as being granted to Congress.
Please bear with me. Sovereignty is granted to “We the people” as outlined in the first 3 words of the Preamble. As such, under the Constitution, we delegate our sovereign authority to persons to represent us in dealing with the events that govern us from day to day. But it is the reserve of the sovereign’s to delegate authority, not Congress; they only represent us; but it does not carry with it the authority to yet further delegate congressional power-that is our power as sovereigns to bind this nation in such a manner.
John Locke came to the same conclusion: (Parliament, Congress)—“Cannot transfer power of making laws to any other hands for it is being but a delegated power from the people who have it and cannot pass it over to others.”
I would contend that the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 is illegal under the Constitution. Further if we consider Marbury v Madison of 1803, a decision which to my knowledge has never been legally overturned, states the case in even far starker terms:
Marbury v Madison 17 Wall 205 Cranch 2 1803
“Thus the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principal, supposedly to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and the courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.” Marbury v Madison 17 Wall 205 Cranch 1,2,3,4, Book 2
So now, if we follow he train to the end of the line, not only does the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 appear to be unconstitutional due to Congress’s illegal delegation of power concerning “The regulating the value thereof” part of Art. 1 Section 5 and 18; one is drawn to the conclusion that the Federal Reserve Act is void under Marbury. Congress acted illegally and contrary to the constitution by delegating its authority but President Wilson also acted illegally in signing said act into law.—“as well as other departments are bound by that instrument.”
: Black’s Law Dictionary
Manifest—Evident to the senses, especially to the sight, obvious to the understanding, evident to the mind, not obscure or hidden, and is synonymous with open, clear, visible, unmistakable, indubitable, indisputable, evident and self evident. In evidence, that which is clear and needs no proof; that which is notorious.
Void—Null; ineffectual; nugatory; having no legal force or binding effect; unable in law, to support the purpose for which it was intended. An instrument or transaction which is wholly ineffective, inoperative and incapable of ratification and which thus has no force or effect so that nothing can cure it.
In short, I contend Congress was and is prohibited by the Constitution from delegating any of its authority that is vested to it in the Constitution as shown in the 2 cases cited,i.e. Panama and Field and that that action was repugnant to that instrument and is Void under Marbury. There are undoubtly many, many laws that are currently on the books that would fall into this category.
Because the Supremes have already addressed such acts as outlined above, I question how they could rule against what they have already done. I would think the government could simply fire up the presses, make changes to the currency as did JFK in 1962 when he used red ink on $5 bills and simply deal out the Fed. (This contemplates of course eliminating Tiny Tim and BB).
I am well aware this sounds rather simplistic, but if the FED is seized lock, stock and barrel and folded into the Treasury there will of course issues to be resolved but I really can’t see them as being life threatening. Congress could try and reinstate the Act but would almost certainly face 1890’s wild west justice rapidly; like while they are all still in D.isneyland C.entral.
I am not so naiveté as to believe TPTB are going to roll over if my argument is correct. It will be ignored, and laughed at later if ignoring it fails. But Joe Sixpack is growing more and more aware that somehow the FED is the central problem in the financial mess this country finds itself. The connection must be made in the public mind that this 1920’s Al Capone Chicago style Mafia lives again posing as upstanding bankers who are in fact monstrous crooks who are in direct violation, not of the law, but of the U.S. CONSTITUTION and the banking industry are not just “greedy” people but a Mafia criminal element threatening this nation and its well being. A proper coat of paint would go a long way to identify to the general public who and what these criminals are about.
And now the caveats: this is my first post. This issue has been sticking in my craw for some time now and ZH appears to be the best forum to outline my thoughts. It’s not the only one. Corporations as people, which Thom Hartmann has gone over in his book, Unequal Protection, is another saddle on the American public that has bothered me for some time. I hope to address that issue sometime in the near future.
Further I am not an attorney as mentioned earlier and I do not know how to use the internet to Shepardize the 2 mentioned cases. I know there are attorneys on this site and any comments, critiques or help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Getting bent over a barrel is never fun but that’s how the game has to be played if you want to know if you have something or you’re as full of shit as a Christmas goose. Let the games begin.
"The Congress manifestly is not permitted to abdicate or to transfer to others the essential legislative functions with which it is thus vested. "
This is one of the fundamental problems with our government - up there with the need for term limits. Most here tend to be focused on financial activities for obvious reasons, but name any subject - literally, anything - and you will find not only government regulation of it, but government agencies to whom congress has delegated their power in the form of rule-making authority.
These people answer to almost no one, and they frequently care nothing for due process.
Congress granting themselves unlimited power in response to the failure of their last power grab?
Sounds to me like the new FSOC will be able to declare a financial firm an enemy combatant and ship them off to Gitmo.
I wonder if any large Wall Street firms in particular might have some influence over this process of protecting our economic system from firms that are becoming too big for their own good (i.e., the competition)...hmmmm.
And I'd like to know if these "regulators" and their friends would ever get busted for insider trading right before they decided to seize any business...
I'd bet Goldman Sucks alumni are piling in their applications for the job.
An incomprehensible, megalithic and deliberately arcane insider’s joke written by financial industry lobbyists and voted into law by the most corrupt Congress in living memory. Triumphant evidence of the Obama administrations “hard line” on Wall street that contains few specifics and relies on future generations of bought and paid for shills to interpret and enact. A disgraceful exhibition of bureaucratic government’s complete lack of honesty and resolve in understanding core problems and dealing with them; instead papering over them with reams of nonsense to placate the ignorant masses.
I found this commentary, originally posted on Harvey Organ's site before he deleted it, interesting:
excuse me if i cannot share Adrian Douglas' enthusiasm for the sham financial measure spoken of in such glowing terms by the pitchman Brad Chilton whose rhapsodic and fulsome praise of his boss Obama belies the intrinsic worthlessness of this bill. Despite Chilton's assertions otherwise, this hogwash does nothing to delimit the "too big to fail" monoliths of the financial system. This measure was actually deleted alone with Dorgan's attempt to limit the size of these monster zombie banks. The most significant effort to reign in the notorious hybrids of investment/commercial banks via the re-instatement of the Glass-Steagal Act was unceremoniously removed as were efforts by Blanche Lincoln to stop banks from trading in derivatives. The great "populist" Scott Brown, actually a shill from NY Mellon bank, on the other hand introduced a successful amendment to allow hedge funds to devote 3% of capital to the purchase of the toxic and destructive financial implements. In addition an already watered down Volcker Rule was completely gutted. The bill written by Wall Street investment bankers (much like the health bill was written by insurance companies) also stipulates progressive delays in the implementation of the provisions therein starting with a 6 month "grace" period to "study" the proprietary trading of banks and extending the effective enactment of the major provisions to a full 12 years! This is just so much window dressing which will do little to delay the inevitable economic and social collapse of this nation due to more than $1.5 quadrillion in financial toxic waste fatally poisoning our economy. Although I too much appreciate the position limits in silver, I feel this measure has accomplished much too little far too late.
a) Thanks for the great article.
The Act thus creates a board of economics czars who will have almost unlimited powers to regulate the financial sector of the economy.
The Act thus creates a board of economics czars who will have almost unlimited powers to regulate the financial sector of the economy.
where can I get one of those jobs?
Or is those seats reserved for Larry, Ben and Turbo Boy?
US Constitution, handwritten, four pages.
Donk, close typed, 2,300 pages.
In the UK, during its tenure, Labour created 6,300 NEW laws (yes, that is not a typo).
"US Constitution, handwritten, four pages."
"US Constitution, handwritten, four pages."
Yeah, but come on...it needed 27 amendments. I'm sure this bill is perfect from the beginning!
Yes, of course, you're right. I think I'm correct in stating that Tolley's (tax reference material in the UK) increased size wise fourfold under Labour's tenure - if the number of changes are in the same order that should make some nice weekend reading for someone of 9,000 to 10,000 pages.
Loved your comment!
These people wil tell the proletariat to believe that abandoning the management of the economy to a web of faceless bureaucrats gives us a better chance of avoiding trouble, but what they really intend is to create another bureacratic monster which will allow them to manipulate money without having to actually touch it. I know from personal experience that a Congressmen from Massachusetts used the Small Business Administration to manipulate the awarding of contracts for D.o.D. services. My ass still smarts from time to time from that one. From what my Navy contacts told me at the time, using the SBA to over-rule Naval procurement decisions was the rule rather than the exception - and the SBA laws they showed me were clearly written with this purpose in mind.
We cannot be too aggressive in the cause of explaining this to the American electorate.
Large non-bank financial organization needing further regulation to stem systemic risk: Federal Government.
More reasons for any business that can do so to leave the U. S. Malta looks great to me. Great weather and scenery. More compliance costs to be paid by consumer. More regulatory crap that no one can figure out, certainly not government employees. Thanks for your work.
Going to a Third World hellhole won't help either. It just makes the hunt easier to sanction.
While it looks like DONK has many issues, for those wanting to get out of the US, go and don't let the door hit you.
Moreover, the competitive equity notions in the international banking act of 1978 should be revisited if they serve simply as a means to allow US entities to offshore and then come back into the US.
I wonder if a foreign bank from malta has been vetted under the foreign bank supervision enhancement act. Hmm...wonder if US bank regulation would pass if subject to FBSEA scrutiny?? Sigh.
Thank you for a great, ongoing series.
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