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Dollar Intraday Collapse

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Somewhere, Ben Bernanke is cheering the collapse of the dollar: after all it bought the market another 1%. Of course, forget his sworn duty of protecting the US currency: who cares about hyperinflation when there is a great ponzi stock bubble to reflate.




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Wed, 07/01/2009 - 14:03 | Link to Comment andy55
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I love zerohedge to death, and I'm very thankful to the level of time and effort put in by TD, MS, and other contributors.

However, it's a little tiresome when the words used to describe a *day's* move in the dollar, bonds, or treasuries are extreme to absurd: "collapse", "liftoff", "tank", "rip", and so on. C'mon, let's be professional. This kind of hyperbole is the same junk we see from the pundits and mainstream talking heads -- zh doesn't do itself any favors by being so sensationalistic. Let's reserve those words for the real deal, not volatility. Agreed?

Again, I love zerohedge with a passion, so I'm just trying to offer some feedback to give it a better taste to newcomers.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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When you have said "drop" as many times as I have, it gets tedious. It is more for personal amusement. But I get your point.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 21:26 | Link to Comment deadhead
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the ones that always get me are "surge" and "slash".

jobs are always "slashed". one would think that all those HR libs are Freddy Kruger wannabees.

the market, of course, always "surges". sounds like a penicillin resistant STD to me.

Having said that, I hope TD stops slashing GS....after all, Lloyd DID apologize

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/01/2009 - 17:09 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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In the last 100 years BACHWARDATION in commodities has been much more common than CONTANGO. If deflation takes hold, there might be pain in the con-tango camp, especially if one jumped in a little late. Just imagine, filling a tanker in the evening and realizing that GS went full reverse and future price is lower than spot in the morning. Ahh, good times are coming' unless sheep will buy in to oil 200 again.
Again the uncertainty of deflation/inflation will make yo or break yo. : )

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/01/2009 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/01/2009 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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Well, we do need the collapse of dollar. While we have been giving the bail out funds to Banks, foreign countries were giving min interest funds to their exporters. How else could we reach the equilibrium in the balance of trade?
(there are other ways, but our government doesn't have balls to implement them. It seems they only have balls when it comes to screwing our next generation :( )

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Steak
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Yeah those squiggly lines on your bloomberg are better off with a dollar collapse. But the old folk on fixed incomes and people making minimum wage won't much like it. How about a little deflation to give the little guy a fighting chance?

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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Don't kid yourself, deflation puts the negative spin on wages. And as long as employers are forced to reduce their prices, they will not hier more people. In addition a dollar collapse will not necessary cause the inflation, but it might help the ever decreasing manufacturing sector.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 19:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/01/2009 - 14:58 | Link to Comment phaesed
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The dollar and the twenty year are moving in sync again, exactly what drove the market up the first time.... this is going to be an evil bubble.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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Ok, so speaking of sensationalizing, where exactly did you get that data from? Zero Hedge reader retention is 86%, the highest for any blog.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 16:06 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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WOW! Thats unheard of. Id be interested to see a live stats page for this blog. Wont do anything useful other than satisfy my curiosity but would be pretty cool =)

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Veteran
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Funny, I've seen the same posters here for months.

By the way, anyone who uses the words champ, sport, or bro immediately labels themself a grade a douche bag.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/01/2009 - 16:11 | Link to Comment fxquant
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In reality it is Turbo Tax Tim's responsibility at the Treasury not the FOMC's to maintain the $.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 20:16 | Link to Comment Charles Wilson
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FOMC Minutes, August 8, 2006:

"At the conclusion of the discussion, the Committee voted to authorize and direct the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, until it was instructed otherwise, to execute transactions in the System Account in accordance with the following domestic policy directive:

"The Federal Open Market Committee seeks monetary and financial conditions that will foster ***price stability*** and ***promote sustainable growth in output***...

"Votes for this action: Messrs. Bernanke and Geithner, Ms. Bies, Messrs. Guynn, Kohn, Kroszner, Ms. Pianalto, Mr. Warsh, and Ms.Yellen."

Not that it matters...

CW

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:17 | Link to Comment mhmani
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China has requested a Debate on Reserve Currency Change at next weeks G8 Summit in Italy, this is probably why the Dollar did "collapse" around Noon.

BTW- I love the words "Collapse", "Tank", "Lift", and "Rip"...keep up the good work ZH.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Cplus
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Have you thought it could be to bankrupt you on the coming trip?

Or perhaps that's only a bonus.

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/01/2009 - 16:20 | Link to Comment fxquant
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The primary move came in EUR crosses, Cable only up 10 pips or so on the day. (Cable = GBP/USD for non FX traders).

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 16:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 07/01/2009 - 18:37 | Link to Comment topshelfstuff
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any mention of the PE Ratio on the S&P 500, now near the PE 130 Mark....if a decimal point was stuck in there, making it 13, that would be about average. i'm just surprised this record breaking, unbelievable, PE has been kept quiet.
and please keep in mind this includes Q1/09 and the highly fudged "E" for the Banks & Financials, thanks to retroactive accounting rule changes, and Mark-to-Whatever gimmickry. do the "few" know something re: Decimalization ?

>>>After the earnings result for the quarter ending March 31, 2009, the PE ratio is now even higher. The reason is the denominator E or earnings in the PE ratio is falling while ht price is rising. For these calculations the 919.14 closing price of the S&P 500 on May 29, 2009 is used.

With 99% of all S&P 500 companies reporting, the as reported earnings are for the March quarter is $7.61 according to Standard & Poor’s. As shown on the chart below the S&P 500 PE ratio has risen to 132 for the quarter ending March 2009.
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http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/KE28Dj01.html
>>>Insanity gone rampant
Indications of insanity abound and are increasing, such as with the ludicrously high level of the S&P 500 price-to-earnings ratio as share values soar even as earnings plunge. No wonder the Chinese yuan is looking a saner reserve currency than the US dollar. Sanest of all, of course, is gold!!!

Wed, 07/01/2009 - 19:49 | Link to Comment 100PercentProle
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Please wake me up when USD/EUR drops under 0.65.

Thankyoudrivethrough.

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