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Downtown New York Office Vacancy Rate Spikes To 9/11 Levels

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Surely this must be worth a strong buy upgrade of the REIT sector by someone (too bad most banks already have these in the "conviction buy to the grave" category). Bloomberg TV reports that the office vacancy rate in downtown NY has dropped to September 11th levels, and is about to pass 14%. In other words short reality, long hopium and office REITs, and presto - 100% P&L overnight. Who needs such boring things as cash flows when you have record vacancies and guaranteed, undisputed bailouts.

 

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Tue, 03/30/2010 - 18:48 | 281079 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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We can now call the sector "FAKE" Estate.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 18:52 | 281081 Prof Gulliver
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Downtown? Nobody but Petula Clark wants to go there. Midtown is doing just fine, though.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 18:55 | 281084 Agent Orange
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This is an amazing news piece considering IYR has retraced half of its post-LEH decline and 38% of its total decline off the 2007 high.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 18:57 | 281086 tip e. canoe
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anyone know who owns 85 broad? 

whoever it is, they're going to have to do a cleansing ceremony to clear out all the bad juju after the goldsack boys vacate the joint.

maybe even hire Father Amorth:
http://www.newser.com/story/82981/popes-exorcist-satan-is-in-the-vatican...

i'll bring the sage.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 18:58 | 281087 Rainman
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Off topic by a continent, wonder how Cali's doing selling those 11 State owned buildings . No wonder Lockyear's in a panic to move those GOs. The State-owned CRE sales were to net $ 6B.

I'm betting the May budgeting session in SAC is going to reveal some surprises that can't be covered any longer. That's why Lockyear is tearing into the hated Squid.....a deflect strategy. 

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 01:38 | 281385 swamp
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Senator Feinstein's husband's real estate company is the listing agent to sell the buildings that the new owner will lease back to the State as rentals. Just an all around screw job on the public and an all around inside job on the money grab.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 19:31 | 281117 BrianOFlanagan
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reminds me of the last peak - vacant buildings were worth more than occupied buildings, as you could proforma the rents to the moon.

The stupidity of real estate investors is beyond comprehension.  They fall for the same shit over and over.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 19:52 | 281141 Belrev
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Wait till millions of square feet of new badly needed office space are completed in the new World Trade Center. Then the vacancy rate will reach a new post-9/11 high.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:11 | 281166 10044
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"business will get better"

"rents will be cheaper"

"lots of optimism"

OBAMA ????

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:23 | 281175 trav7777
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Just drink the fuckin Koolaid, all right?!?!?

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:13 | 281168 girl money
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A little song for NYC -- Tightrope, by ELO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzvuTNhdL0w

"They say some days you gotta give--
They say some days you gotta take--
If that's the way it's gotta be,
Roll it over and you will see.
The city streets are full of people going nowhere making time.
The change from night to day is really only hours,
It's just along the line can't you see the sign
When I looked around, I was heading down,
Won't somebody throw me down a line..."

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:26 | 281173 Reflexivity
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This decline may be permanent.

With a virtualization (see: digitalization) of the local, national and global economies, who would continue to pay the cost of living in NYC (since there are many other available substitute locations out of which to base operations).

Let me give you an example:

If you were a banker, or lawyer, doctor, etc., why not work in Charlotte, NC instead of NYC or Chicago and make similar money and take home more money net?

I think NYC's desirability could decay and the untapped 'reserves' of the midatlantic states from DC to NoVa to NC to GA will steadily gain in prominence while the northern power cities of yester year (think all of the old NFL team cities) like Detroit, Pittsburg, Clevland, etc. will continue to decline in economic viability.

[For those of you who have never done business or lived in the midatlantic (visiting doesn't count), this conjecture may seem ridiculous.  If you grew up in New Jersey, went to Princeton, then Harvard MBA then worked in New York and now live in CT (and will retire in FL), then just bypass this comment.]

Any thoughts on the explosive growth opportunities in the midatlantic as an alternative to the over-rated NYC?  Or do you think NYC will always comeback?  Any other areas of the US viable places for the NYC refugees?

 

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:39 | 281197 SteveNYC
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I don't see a sustainable comeback for NYC unfortunately. I love the city, however, it ain't looking good right now.

I scored a serious deal on a new apartment last year (rental from an individual condo owner), about 40% less per month than peak rent, PLUS, owner paid move-in, application fee, AND broker fee. Plus, 2mth exit option for tenant. Over $4,500 just to get an apartment leased!

So, this is the state of residential, commercial is a complete disaster and getting worse.

Unfortunately, NYC may stay on the slippery slope from hereon in.

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 01:44 | 281388 swamp
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You have a good point, as money is leaving NYC due to the high and increased taxes and state fiscal problems. Mid and south atlantic states may see a surge for other reasons too, like state soveringty issues.

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:23 | 281177 trav7777
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It's even better...the major IYR components are paying dividends in STOCK!

At this rate of dilution, I am long IYR to infinity

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:26 | 281179 dark pools of soros
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all moving to Abu Dhabi of course...

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:31 | 281186 carbonmutant
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Wow just like China.

"New York City Towers Empty"

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:35 | 281190 SteveNYC
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Larry Silverstein = Next Uncle Sam sweetheart bailout deal

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 20:51 | 281210 shinola
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Did vacancy rates "spike" or "drop" to @14%?

Since 9/11(/01, I assume)...  What time of day?  By noon, was the vacancy rate higher or lower than it was @ 8 am?  That is, if the World Trade Center buildings (& peripherals) were suddenly removed from the overall square footage available/vacant, wouldn't the relative  percentage of vacancies suddenly drop?

 

I think I understand the gist of this article (vacancy rates are rising) but it could have been written better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 23:27 | 281320 Budd Fox
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Yeah...and Monica Bertran is a 23 year old chick mainly notable for good looking that spoke with all the vested interest laden ppl that could give her a positive spin!!

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 21:34 | 281244 Carl Marks
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Who gives a shit. The Mayans have it all ending in 2012 anyway. Fuck Elliot Waves, Fibonacci Ratios and all that crap. The Saints won the Super Bowl. The handwriting is on the wall. Got milk?

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 21:44 | 281255 augmister
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What is the big surprise?  9/11 destroyed a couple of buildings, today the Government has destroyed the economy.  Of course, you don't think higher taxes had anything to do with the latter?

Tue, 03/30/2010 - 22:42 | 281289 Reflexivity
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We have met the enemy, he is us. --Pogo

 

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 02:06 | 281277 poor fella
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That's one coast and meanwhile on the other the largest building in Seattle is half empty and they missed a mortgage payment. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2011431935_colu...

It's only one out of many so it should work out fine.

Downtown San Diego was about 40% empty and downtown Napa was looking a bit worse for wear recently... Localization and becoming a Locavore may possibly help turn around your local communities. Regardless we are on a 'walking path' to recovery..

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 00:16 | 281343 boeing747
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Silicon Valley, 30% of some stripe malls now are empty. More and more 'For Lease' and 'For Sale' sgins pop up everywhere, not less. Thanks 'The worst is behind us'

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 01:55 | 1094014 george22
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Since 9/11(/01, I assume)... What time of day? By noon, was the vacancy rate higher or lower than it was @ 8 am? That is, if the World Trade Center buildings (& peripherals) were suddenly removed from the overall square footage available/vacant, wouldn't the relative percentage of vacancies suddenly drop? I think I understand the gist of this article (vacancy rates are rising) but it could have been written better.
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Wed, 03/31/2010 - 01:42 | 281386 excellent
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You still need to physically be very close to the market to get optimal latencies... I get ass for latencies here.

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 02:46 | 281403 Dantzler
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Columbia Center [Seattle's tallest building] misses loan payment

Puget Sound Business Journal / Jeanne Lang Jones

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2010/03/22/daily26.html

"The loan servicer had to advance more than $1.6 million to cover the payment [on $380MM], according to Manus Clancy, managing director of Trepp LLC, a New York research firm tracking commercial mortgage-backed securities.

The loan servicer’s comment on the lapse, Clancy said: “Imminent default due to cash flow issues.” "

. . . .

"Nearly 20 percent of Columbia Center currently is vacant, and the 76-story tower is about to lose its largest tenant, online retailer Amazon.com Inc., which occupies 230,000 square feet. When that happens as scheduled next year, the 1.5 million-square-foot tower could be 33 percent vacant, unless the building’s property manager, CAC Group, is able to secure new tenants."

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 07:55 | 281444 Reflexivity
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Is this (the columbia center) news just an isolated event, not indicative of the greater commercial real estate market?  Or is this news a sign of more bad times to come...that the market is missing.

The REITs have been doing very well lately.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=MUTF:VGSIX

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230360150457515417022686751...

Investors Win on REIT Path:  Real-Estate Stocks Are Set to Notch Their Best First Quarter Since 2006

Could you (or anyone else) comment on your news/insight for Seattle in regards to the greater market outlook for commercial RE?  Same with commenter from Silicon Valley.

Wed, 03/31/2010 - 10:21 | 281542 Dantzler
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Not sure--I'm in science not real estate. I just noticed the story in SEATAC on my way back from a class on the east coast.

Maybe Ghost can comment?

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