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The Dubai File: Is Venezuela Headed for a Default?

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Earlier this week we wrote in a research note:

"The market flutter caused by the unilateral debt moratorium by Dubai suggests to us is that the illusion of stability created by the Federal Reserve Board over the past year is starting to dissipate.  Specifically, there are many Dubai type situations in the global markets, both sovereigns and corporates, that are over-extended and are unable to service their debts at par.  The corporates will end up in restructuring but the sovereigns are an open question."  

"We would not be surprised to see more sovereign debtors make unilateral announcement of debt moratoriums and/or restructurings, perhaps including even oil rich Venezuela.  We notice in that regard that Venezuela’s lider maximo, Hugo Chavez, is preparing to nationalize the few remaining private banks of that nation, usually a good indicator of an approaching sovereign default."

I have been following VE, both as a journalist and professionally, for many years.  While Chavez does have a reasonably tight grip on the security situation, c/o his Cuban trained praetorian guard, the economy is a mess, even with plentiful oil.  Indeed, not only has Chavez managed to wreck the state oil company so that VE barely meets half of its OPEC production quota, but inflation is running wild. 

The Chavistas thought that oil prices would stay near the highs of the past two years, a dream that they share with the rulers of Dubai it seems.  But with oil below $100 and the political opposition in VE starting to get organized, it may be time for Chavez to go for the whole ball game, nationalize the banks and take control over the rest of the economy that the government does not already control.  Keep an eye on VE as the next soveriegn flash point.

As the WSJ reported today: "Upping the ante significantly, Chavez said he would not hesitate to
intervene in the country's whole banking system. "You can be sure that
if I need to intervene in all the banking system, I will do it," the
self-declared socialist revolutionary said in a televised address
Wednesday."

Chris




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Thu, 12/03/2009 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 12/03/2009 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 12/03/2009 - 11:37 | Link to Comment bugs_
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That border with Colombia can go hot at any moment.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 13:04 | Link to Comment tetsuotrees
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Good point. Were he to nationalize the banks, it stands to reason that he'd want to immediately create another crisis onto which he could focus the nation's attentions and resources...

War between Venezuela & Colombia = all bets are off in S.A.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 10:24 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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Venezuela was counting on oil staying at $100?  If they don't like it at $75-$80, wait until it's at $40 again after the global risk trade reverses.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 09:53 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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GLOBAL DAY OF JUBILEE.  Coming soon to a country near you!

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 13:07 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Hopefully the People conduct 'roundups' for trial - otherwise it'll be more of the same after the dust settles. Human beings rarely learn - the third generation always ends up defining the new insanity.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 09:45 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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This will give the US the perfect justification for invading.  Now all we need is a pretext.  I say we accuse Chavez of child abuse and "step up" to our status as the world's policeman.  (What?  You think this is a flimsier pretext than WMDs?)

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 13:00 | Link to Comment tetsuotrees
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Ya - if you think Obama is going to preemptively invade a fellow companero de la revolucion over anything other than his wholesale privatization of state-owned enterprises, re-establishment of press freedoms, and implementation of a flat-tax system, I've got a block of hotel-backed CMBS to sell you (I give you par - you take, is good price).

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Flyingtrader
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After all the arm twisting, hemming and hawing about troop escalations in Afghanistan, do you really think The Obama will threaten the "international goodwill" he has work so hard to buy by kicking some petty S. American dictator?

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 10:46 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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I'm not convinced that Obama is actually in charge, in a meaningful sense.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 11:36 | Link to Comment NYPoke
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Not even in his own household, let alone in charge of the country.  The ship is adrift.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 09:41 | Link to Comment bobby02
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Someone's got some 'splainin to do.

btw, they don't call them PIIGS for nothing. Greece and Ireland CDS has narrowed, but at 170 and 155 bp, are wider than a lot of EM.

reminds me of a joke that was going around in the spring: What's the difference between iceland and ireland?      -> 6 months.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 09:31 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jCeOagSyMOyK8aJykX8bdxyV-Www

It's almost impossible to get real accurate news regarding Venezuela. If you look at the structure of what he is doing it's Fascism in the disguise of Socialism. What we are doing in the US is Fascism in the disguise of Democracy. While one is using Government to take over corporate entities (VE), the other is using Corporate entities to take over the Government

The same small groups of finance and industry are controlled by the same group of political cronies. Or vice versa.

The difficulty lies in that they are not our cronies, so he must be evil.  He is part of the same system, it's his bad luck that he has oil that our Fascists want, otherwise we would leave him alone. 

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 09:45 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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Increasingly I think the difference between socialism and fascism is only theoretical, not practical.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Argonaught
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It just a natural progression from utopian to realistic thought.  Socialism (equality for many ruled by few; central planning) and fascism (dicatorial rule of state and corporation) are not sustainable.  Those desparate to exert their control over their fellow man must adapt.  They look around, realize that both Socialism and Fascism contain elements they like and don't contain dealbreakers.  So the drift together and will make another go of it. 

And the world continues to take steps away from freedom of individuals... 

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 12/03/2009 - 13:05 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Agreed. Corruption is corruption, no matter what flavor you tell your customers it is.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 12/03/2009 - 08:34 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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"The Chavistas thought that oil prices would stay near the highs of the past two years, a dream that they share with the rulers of Dubai it seems."

 

perhaps the author could elaborate on the impact on  Dubai of declining  revenues from the oil it produces and then contrast that to Venezuela's situation.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 07:43 | Link to Comment jm
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Seems like the (de)fault line is oil producers. 

Russia next?  Not like they don't default at the drop of a hat.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 07:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 12/03/2009 - 06:03 | Link to Comment nevket240
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I think I can remember an incredible event only a short time ago when a National Govt seized the retirement accounts of its citizens. It too was Sth American. A few Billion$$.  wash, rinse, repeat maybe????

regards

 

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 07:57 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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the argentine

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 07:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 12/03/2009 - 12:47 | Link to Comment tetsuotrees
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Uh, try Argentina dude.  Under the far-left joke of a socialist they call a President.  

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 02:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 12/03/2009 - 01:12 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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Someone else blogged about this a while back, the potential of a VE default. Can't remember when. Wish I could remember who holds the majority of their debt.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 01:09 | Link to Comment gookempucky
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Doesnt anyone remember that certain interest in Dubai own 28% of the london stock exchange??? Default that in your Funk and Wagnals--London is going toast soon....this is growing like the killer tomato.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 04:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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