Durable Goods Ex. Transportation Prints At -0.8%, Misses Target of 0.5%, Boeing Aircraft Orders Save The Day

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Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:45 | 680144 the not so migh...
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The rich are getting their jets ready for the escape.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:47 | 680147 Cookie
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A favor from Boeing. Easy to readjust those orders later

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:38 | 680262 hedgeless_horseman
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Accrual accounting...book it, Dan-O!

Rarely a headline when orders are cancelled, deliveries are missed, and payments are discounted.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:47 | 680150 Dr. Engali
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Should be good for about 10 points on the S&P. Wait...no pomo today. I take that back.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:51 | 680156 firstdivision
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Good to know they count the orders when they come in, but do not remove them once they have been canceled.  Think Benny had United & Southwest "order" some planes then let them cancel the orders this month?

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:14 | 680206 Cognitive Dissonance
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Actually Boeing does back out the planes when they are cancelled.


In my opinion, the games are played with the "Unidentified Customers" line item. See my post further below.

Boeing has real problems with their new 747-8. It was received conceded by Boeing that the plane will probably never be profitable in the future considering the development costs are way over budget and the 747 order book is very thin, with only one new order so far this year. Ugly ugly ugly.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:19 | 680224 firstdivision
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Sorry, I should have been more specific in my statment.  I was refering to the Fed backing out canceled orders in the Durable Goods. 

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:22 | 680231 Cognitive Dissonance
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You mean the official first level manipulation of economic numbers rather than the second level corporate manipulation? :>)

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:52 | 680287 Panafrican Funk...
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Beat me to it CD, just wanted to further point out that a big bunch of orders happened on literally the last day of September, specifically, 54 orders of 737-800's from the Air Force (Air Logistics Center, or ALC) and 20 orders from "unidentified".  There were also another 18 orders from "unidentified" in the month of September in general.  Only 25 of the 117 orders were from actual, identified private businesses.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:07 | 680316 Gordon Freeman
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Yeah, that was my order.  I have since changed my mind.  Maybe some other time.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:52 | 680159 RobotTrader
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Amazing how:

-  The faster the economy deteriorates

-  The more POMO's and free money printed out

-  The higher the illegal short interest rises on the COMEX

Gold and silver keep getting sold off with the utmost urgency.

Jim Sinclair, Eric Sprott, Eric King, Bill Murphy all must be puking up blood today.

Meanwhile, cult retail stocks and 60 P/E tech stocks continue to rocket into Outer Space.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:59 | 680172 Turd Ferguson
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"Jim Sinclair, Eric Sprott, Eric King, Bill Murphy all must be puking up blood today."

Uhhhh, I rather doubt it.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:29 | 680174 Quintus
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You are surprised that waves of illegal short selling are putting pressure on Gold and Silver???

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:59 | 680164 Cognitive Dissonance
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I suspect that Boeing, under orders from the White House "intelligence czar", is playing games in the "Unidentified Customers" column. Remember that the "intelligence czar" can now order companies to cook the books. "Unidentified customers" now represents 35% of Boeing's commercial plane orders year to date. Very strange.


Intelligence Czar Can Waive SEC Rules

Now, the White House's top spymaster can cite national security to exempt businesses from reporting requirements.

Boeing is currently showing 151 B-737 planes on "order" by "Unidentified Customers" out of a total of 166 "Unidentified Customers" orders, an increase of 50 since the last update.

While this line item ebbs and flows from quarter to quarter, the number has grown quite large and I suspect it has become just another way to goose the numbers to continue the mythical "growth" story. See Boeing's order page below.


Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:03 | 680173 Anarchist
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Left unsaid is the creative financing being offered to these buyers. Who wouldn't buy when you know you can default in the future with no repercussions. After a few years of minimal maintenance to boost profits and the loan is under water might as well default.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:06 | 680185 Cognitive Dissonance
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Assuming there are real "buyers" for all these planes, identified or not. There have been rumours that some of the "named" customers have been.....how do we say this........encouraged to place orders with Boeing that will quietly fall off the books in the future when they are canceled.

Normally Boeing expects a small payment when the contract is signed (thought this does vary) and it's my understanding that a large number of orders this year (compared to other years) didn't require the small down payment.

Interesting. Buyer's market or playing with the numbers? Since Boeing and Airbus are always competing with each other, the actual contracts never see the light of day. So who knows what's going on here.

Trust no one.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:14 | 680332 Panafrican Funk...
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Looking at a somewhat harder to BS numbers, EPS growth year to date is -49%. The stock performance YTD is +34%.  Just to reiterate, the earnings, per share, dropped almost 50%, yet the stock price went up 34%.

Somewhat of a tangent, but does anyone else note that RBC is always way the hell aggressive in their price targets, whereas UBS typically isn't?

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:00 | 680177 Charley
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quite astonishing ...

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:08 | 680193 Cognitive Dissonance
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quite astonishing ...

Including the junk I received.

It's amazing what people consider "junk" on ZH these days. Or maybe it's just my shadow lover/junker going at it again. The sexual release must be considerable. :>)

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:54 | 680165 Headbanger
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It's amazing all the goodies like jets the Fed can buy now with QE!

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:54 | 680166 jus_lite_reading
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I'm sure this will offer Main Stream Media an opportunity to put a wonderful spin on this today as there is no POMO scheduled.

Now, given that the gov't has been "revising" numbers as of late so as to avoid the fallout of the truth, Boeing I'm sure can easily adjust the numbers at a later and more practical time- the fact that Boeing has strong ties with capital hell...oppps I meant, Capital Hill, then we know the lies will never stop.

It's all about the "headline" figures; no one pays much attention to the "revised" numbers a month later.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:54 | 680168 chunkylover42
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Tyler, if I didn't know better, I'd say you are skeptical of the strength of our recovery.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:00 | 680176 John McCloy
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I'm confused Tyler. You mean everyone with a 50" LCD is not buying 3DTVs and Rosie the Robots?

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:23 | 680233 Cognitive Dissonance
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Please describe, in detail, exactly what Rosie the Robot does and where I can get one. :>)

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:41 | 680268 John McCloy
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Rosie the Robot was the Jetson's maid. Korea however is developing one. Regardless in 10 years the way Ben is robbing the taxpayer we will all be maids and there will be no need for Robots.


Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:02 | 680178 Ratscam
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does greece belong to the category of unidentified customers?

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:11 | 680190 firstdivision
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Instead of a turkey in every pot, it will be a Boeing 737 in every driveway.  All I can say is I will be giving mine away the minute it arrives due to parallel parking one of those is a bitch.  I'll keep my 727 with the tighter turning radius.


Well I would have to say that it is official that we are in a bubble.  Just like 2008, rampant speculation in the commmodities, economy obviously in crapper even with govn't intervention, companies missing sales/revenues, and stock prices are valued to unknown realities.  Viva la reveloution!

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:11 | 680202 Cortez
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Unlike CNBC, AP and Reuters,  Bloomberg actually managed to provide an accurate headline reflecting durable goods ex-transportation. 

"Orders for U.S. Capital Goods Fall, Signaling Less Investment"

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:14 | 680211 scatterbrains
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Gregor MacDonald has a story over at BI suggesting the gold producers are leaving the gold in the ground rather then exchange it for paper other then to pay the bills and post dividends.

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:25 | 680237 unum mountaineer
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unbelieveable this shit is. smile and wave boys and girls..just smile and wave

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:33 | 680251 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Just smile and wave" October Fest style. :>)

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:36 | 680255 unum mountaineer
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hhhhhmmm beer wenches

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:10 | 680321 Gordon Freeman
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That one on the right looks like she'd make you see God...

Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:14 | 680334 Gordon Freeman
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Boeing is sort of a "second tier" asset to the Oligarchy.  It is used in just the way it is described in this thread, to manipulate data.

For all the cretins that think of it as an investable idea, I will remind you that it is time for the traditional falling apart of their labor agreements, which reliably craters the stock.

Sun, 10/31/2010 - 17:14 | 689382 max2205
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Please...fed uses BA IBM GE to make their #'s. They just cut a PO or call in a bogus order

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