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ECB Has €444 Billion PIIGS Exposure, A 4.25% Drop In Asset Values Would Bankrupt European Central Bank

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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:32 | 1346250 qussl3
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Frankly the easiest way to bail out the banking system is to have the PIIGS default, declare the ECB insolvent then do a EU wide one time recapitalization levy.

If they want to go for MAD, go all the way.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:42 | 1346269 Crisismode
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If the PIIGS default, then they take all of Europe, and then all of the rest of the western industrial world with them.

It's not as tidy as just letting a couple small governments renounce their debts . . . the entire world financial system is so interlocked that once the first dominoes fall, the rest soon fall afterward.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:51 | 1346282 Dr. No
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Hank Paulson, is that you?

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 10:42 | 1346763 Ahmeexnal
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ETARP (European Troubled Asset Relief Program) to be announced, by rETARD Trichet.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:20 | 1346337 qussl3
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Well the tidiest it will get is if the ECB takes all PIIGS "assets" off the banks at par, raise reserve requirements so the "good" money doesnt go nuts in velocity and then have the PIGGGS declare a simultaneous default. After that just do a 15% EU wide income/wealth levy to recapitalize the ECB.

Problem is the bankers who have the heads up on this will be stashing all their cash in CHF, ......... wait..

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 09:32 | 1346550 Lieutenant Dan
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The EU will never mark to market their assets. We are doing the same thing in the United States. Thats what keeps us "solvent". If the Brics establish well developed sustainable economies that don't depend on the ponzi countries, they will be able to tell the Eu and the US that the joke is over.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:26 | 1346350 three chord sloth
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Yep. And that doesn't even take the whole derivatives scam into account. What would all this do to the 10x World GDP Sword-of-Damacles CDS market?

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 09:05 | 1346459 Reptil
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Yes, and when a system becomes unmanagable for the purpose it was set up, and even becomes a disruptive force, there's only one way to solve this issue in a capitalist system, and that is to abandon it and let it die.

Just the day before yesterday in a discussion an angry and frightened person threw the following question at my feet:

"so then, where do you keep your money!? how can you argue this point, when you yourself are at risk?"

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 14:33 | 1347636 StychoKiller
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Answer is easy:  PMs, Pb & high-speed delivery devices, beans, booze, anything with a store of value -- cause FRNs sure ain't!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:40 | 1346382 Re-Discovery
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EURO printing will begin in earnest UNLESS unrest moves to Germany.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 10:33 | 1346740 Urban Redneck
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It interestingthat the Eurozone is still waiting on Trichet & Juncker to pull a repeat of the Paulson & Bernanke 2008 extortion performance.  Meanwhile, Greece skipped the IOUs and has erupted in riots and they don't even have California's $500B in outstanding state & municipal debt. 

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:34 | 1346252 dcb
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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:47 | 1346281 Cash_is_Trash
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Nationalization of lossezz

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:57 | 1346297 speedy
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woud you mind not shouting please?  My ears hurt!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 09:02 | 1346461 Reptil
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those are real, aren't they? (not the ears)

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 14:37 | 1347680 StychoKiller
Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:31 | 1346254 writingsonthewall
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Going down, going down, going down.....

I wonder when the ECB will admit there is a problem? - perhaps after the major banks disappear and the 'contagion' takes the world back into recession.

Is this some sort of revenge on America? - you seel us crap, our banks will bankrupt your banks and we'll all go down the tubes together.

I never thought economic armageddon would be so much fun - one minute it's the US, then it's the EU, then it's everyone else, then back to the US etc....

What's the shorting on banks these days? - surely everyone knows that EU banks are finished - it's just a matter of when...

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:36 | 1346262 Id fight Gandhi
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It's like ping pong. Probably eating to be shorting time.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:32 | 1346255 Josephine29
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The problems of the European Central Bank just go on and on. It has perhaps the lowest quality collateral on its books of any mid/major sized central bank. Ironically as the Notayesmanseconomics blog points out it was boasting about this only 2 years ago. From a speech by Mr.Trichet to Munich university.

The second building block of our new liquidity management approach is the list of assets that we take as collateral. This list was already very long before the crisis. We have enlarged it further and now accept an even wider range of securities as collateral. Government securities account for less than half of the nominal value of the securities on the list. The rest are private securities. By contrast with many other central banks, the ECB already accepted private paper before the crisis. In this sense, we were fairly well prepared for the crisis, as we had a relatively “modern” collateral framework. As a consequence, the total value of these eligible securities is currently €12.2 trillion, equivalent to 130% of the GDP of the euro area. This very broad range of eligible collateral has considerably eased banks’ liquidity constraints during the crisis.

Mindful Money http://t.co/9fV7guT


I guess many others will now be asking the question of what this “modern” collateral framework means in terms of losses as values in places like Greece have collapsed...

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:57 | 1346290 A Man without Q...
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"It has perhaps the lowest quality collateral on its books of any mid/major sized central bank."

Everyone seems happy to forget what the Fed bought in the first round of QE.... never mind Maiden Lanes...

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:33 | 1346256 SWRichmond
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Obviously, the world needs another, new level of financial obfuscation, capital-from-nowhere, to bail everyone out.  SDR!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:36 | 1346261 Crisismode
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But it's not real money anyway . . . .

 . . . just a bunch of 0's and 1's on a few hard drives.

Wipe the drive, reinstall the OS, and create a bunch of new 0's and 1's

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:38 | 1346259 BlackholeDivestment
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...Built on Sand? That's beyond generous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULsiXVkKINA

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:39 | 1346260 oogs66
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The ECB has become a huge roadblock to solving any problem.  So many of their holdings had nothing to do with the daily functioning of the economies.  Trichet embarked on a program of secondary market purchases which are killing the ECB and the governments that fund it!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:40 | 1346263 kaiten
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How could a central bank go bankrupt? They´ll just print few more trillions. Problem "solved".

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:41 | 1346264 Sean7k
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During the Weimar hyperinflation, the only thing that mattered to the German people was one: constant adjustment of wages and two, printing enough money to pay it. 

No one questioned if this caused inflation, they blamed it on other outside influences and the people went along.

We often act as if people are rational. However, when the wolves howl and pace, the herd moves together and panics. Something cowboys use to lead them to their eventual slaughter- that mindless run into the gaping jaws of death.

Academics have the job of recording the history of these roundups- the official version to be taught each new generational herd and the harder to find "alternative" versions which could save their lives. 

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:42 | 1346267 swissinv
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On thing to consider is that the 820% of Swiss GDP number mainly results from UBS giant where 80% of operation lies in the US. While a bankruptcy of the biggest bank would be certainly catastrophic for the Swiss, I doubt that the gov. has any incentive nor the money to bail it out. 

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:03 | 1346300 buzzsaw99
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the bernank guarantees all usa and euro banks.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:43 | 1346270 Greeny
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What EUR doing at $1.46? Should be 1:1 at least.

Look at that CHF, insane valuation. USD used buy 4 Swiss

Franks in 70's

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:54 | 1346289 topcallingtroll
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This is great for the dollar!

We can rebalance and recover at european expense.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 09:05 | 1346468 Reptil
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Yes. And that's the plan. Like a tag team off a cliff...

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:46 | 1346273 godzila
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As far as I am concerned the ECB can and will print Euros at will - not a good idea but it will never be "bankrupt"

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:55 | 1346285 topcallingtroll
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Yeah....double entry bookkeeping for a central bank is just a figleaf. Public doesnt understand or care. Just print. You have no respect or credibility anyway.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:49 | 1346275 earnulf
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ECB has about 1.895 Trillion Euro's on it's books, 23% of it is PIIGS, much is just plain crap that was loaded on during the "easy" phase of accepting everyone's belly lint as gold thread.

I think it's time to MAD everything and let it all shake out.   At least then we can get back to something solid instead of all this fiat.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:49 | 1346276 THE DORK OF CORK
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They have a shit load of Gold on their balance sheet or at least they claim they have - CBs cannot go bankrupt with such a asset.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:19 | 1346342 qussl3
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China will be very very very unhappy if they go that route.

Not to mention the Ruskies.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:50 | 1346278 PaperBear
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ATLANTA—Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner called for global standards in the way derivatives contracts are structured in order to prevent a global "race to the bottom."

Is this guy having a laugh or what ?

He is a former Wall Street banker and these banks lobbied long and hard to keep derivatives unregulated.

AIG's bailout of $180BN saw $13BN go to Goldman Sachs for their CDS on the mortgage S**T they sold investors.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:10 | 1346323 EscapeKey
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Oh, don't worry. PD's are considered to do an excellent job self-regulating, and hence will receive waivers. The standards will only apply to everyone else, raising the cost of competition.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 07:51 | 1346283 equity_momo
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I've still got some Track and Field awards in the attic from the 80s, i wonder if i can pledge them as collateral. Few hundred vinyl LPs too , thats got to be worth a medium sized housing development to the ECB.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:00 | 1346294 anvILL
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Should the ECB see the value of its assets fall by just 4.25%, which is no longer a remote risk, its entire capital base would be wiped out.

Wonderful. It is significantly less levered than the FRB.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:09 | 1346318 poydras
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The ECB is most likely already insolvent on a true mark to market basis.  The objective of Extend & Pretend is pretending that the subject entity is solvent.

This problem would not exist if banks operated on a Reg T type leverage (e.g 2:1).  This 12+:1 coupled with horrible underwriting is a clear recipe for insolvency.

Remarkable!  The recipe is a success!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:11 | 1346325 EscapeKey
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ALL major banks are insolvent on a true mark to market basis, not just the ECB.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:10 | 1346321 Zero Debt
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ECB leverage of 23-24x is approaching Lehman Brothers leverage of 30x in the end of 2007. And we all know how that went.


Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:12 | 1346328 EscapeKey
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Lehman couldn't print money, however. How do you think this crisis will ultimately be "solved"?

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 09:08 | 1346466 Zero Debt
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Most likely the endgame is the failure of the European central bank.

ECB has 82 billion Euro in capital and reserves. In this article the scenario painted out is that Greece restructures half of its debt forces losses of 44-66bn eur. This is 53%-80% of the entire capital base. Recall back in end of 2010 that ECB boosted the capital base because they were worried about sovereign bond losses. This is why. At that time, they got the cash (5 bn eur) from 16 national central banks. The crux this time is that Greece is indirectly also linked to these other national central bank's ability to meet a margin call from the ECB. As monetizing these debts would wipe out the confidence in the system, there would be severe political pressure for central banks to help the ECB. Now consider the study done by Reggie Middleton. He claims that in order to restructure the debt to be in compliance with the Maastricht Treaty, Germany would lose 23% of Tier 1 capital of their domiciled banks. Rates in the Eurozone in general would face severe upward pressure to attract deposits to cover the shortfall, of course, as is happening in Hong Kong right now despite lots of "liquidity" in the system. Thus the national states will not be able to have the cookie and eat it, e.g. save both the ECB and their own national banks as the national banks are squeezed between recapitalizing ECB and recapitalizing their own banks. As the savers holding the pitchforks are more likely concerned with their savings in Germany, the choice is obvious. Recall also that Dagong rates Greece sovereign credit as CCC, Standard and Poor rates it B so restructuring is pretty much a fact, the rest is more or less a matter of formalities.

Now an alternative way for the ponzi to buy time would be that the US Fed extends temporary swap lines to the ECB. The initial swap lines were 20bn USD in 2010 which is approx 13.7 bn EUR. However this would fall way way short of the credit losses of PIIGS ggiven how levered ECB now is as they don't want to be doing monetization. Again, from the article, the exposure to PIIGS is 444 bn EUR. The Fed swap line of 13.7 bn eur would supposedly be a temporary measure. But such hope is premature, many economists do not believe Greece would grow its economy until 2013 or 2014. Same story for Spain and most other post-bubble economies. The purpose of the swap lines are overnight and short-term funding only. That can hardly be stretched 2-3 years ahead. And while the Fed could provide discount window funding to European banks, thus easing pressure on the national ones, it would hardly be feasible over a multi-year period. All Fed swap lines are scheduled for shutdown in less than 2 months, August 1, 2011. With the end of QE2 that is a double whammy from the Fed, one for the US treasury, one for the various other central banks.

All of the above, after all, are just temporary measures and various forms of central planner musical chairs and money printing. Hedge accordingly.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 10:19 | 1346679 Zero Debt
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And it gets worse...

German banks according to DIW have 7,600 bn euro in assets, three times Germany's BNP, but only 350 bn in capital. The leverage ratio of the entire German banking system is thus 21.7x, not much different from ECB. So beggar-thy-neighbor wouldn't work, because Germany is in no better shape than the ECB. AND....among their assets are 230 bn euro exposed to the PIIGS. Which means.. PIIGS can wipe out 65% of the capital of the entire German banking system, perhaps in a matter of days or weeks, or equivalently leverage these banks to 7600/120 = 63x. And this figure is an aggregate because no doubt certain institutions may be even more seriously exposed.

On top of this..any rational saver would not really prefer their saving to be leveraged 21 times by the bank meaning that your hardly earned euro has beeen lent out 20 times over, not even mentioning 63 times over to a less stellar concoction of debtors. AND...did anyone say BASEL II. Under basel 1, sovereign debt was risk weighted 0%. Hello yeah that Greece is a 0% risk asset. With 8% capital the maximum leverage is 12.5x. Plus, a higher risk weighting on subpar sovereign debt changes weightings. Conservatively this requires the current leverage in the entire German banking system, the largest economy in Europe, to be cut by half by say 2015. So what does that mean for rates. Etc.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 13:21 | 1347374 Tom_333
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Don´t worry. ECB will just lend a leaf out of the Fed playbook and  print...print...print...and print some more.And you know - it works!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 13:30 | 1347406 desgust
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wonderfull contribution!

Thank you.

Yes, let us see the European bankstas and the socialst sheeple go to hell!

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 09:16 | 1346497 fockewulf190
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One nasty black swan event is all it is going to take to push the eu back into the dark ages.

Tue, 06/07/2011 - 08:16 | 1346334 scratch_and_sniff
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It's like sticking my head in a spin-dryer. So the possible solutions; Get a bail out(from china? or EZ) Slow down cheap money to bad banks and tell them to stay away from peripheral debt(How long do these banks need propping up, it cant be much longer until we find out the final costs), print money…I can smell the Heidelberg GTO’s purring as we speak. I couldnt see the ECB getting its knickers in a twist with that many can-kicking options on the table.

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