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Egypt Government Warns Of "Counter-Revolution" As Military Regime Retrenches Power
It is not like we don't have enough revolutions to worry about, now we have to be concerned about that good old staple: the Thermidorian reaction, made so popular during the first real revolution, and now about to be repeated in Egypt. According to Agence France Presse, Egypt's new government warned Wednesday of a "counter-revolution," the official MENA agency reported, following clashes in several parts of the capital widely blamed on diehards of the former regime. Those expecting press releases of the "Egypt is not Egypt" variety will not be disappointed: it was only on February 24 that Reuters reported that "Egypt's new military rulers assured the nation on Thursday they would guard against what protesters have called a counter-revolution by associates of Hosni Mubarak, deposed nearly two weeks ago in an 18-day uprising. The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces said it noted the use of political expressions such as "the counter revolution" and denounced what it said were "attempts to create strife", saying it was taking all steps to meet the people's demands." It is oddly ironic then that it is the very Supreme Council using threats of taboo "counter-revolution" suppression to get the people to finally understand that they deposed one dictator and replaced him with another.
From Dow Jones:
The government stressed that it "is fully committed to the interests of the people and to implementing the goals of the revolution; and it will stand firm against plans for a counter- revolution."
Of course by the time a government which attained power in a violent military coup stresses the futility of a counter revolution, it is too late. Look for concerns about Suez blockage to hit the Mainstream Media some time in late March.
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OUSTANDING Tyler :)
Thermidorian reaction, well played my man, and you get an atta boy on top
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
Now fight the power.
Infinite loop.
Right, first the street protesters, angry mothers and student youth take the palace and oust the autocrat.
Then they realize that they are disorganized and don't really know what they're doing governance-wise.
Finally, the radical minority, who are very serious and very well organized, makes a power play and proceeds to ruthlessly eliminate all opposition.
I hope this will not be Egypt's fate but this is the classic French/Russian/Cuban model.
For what it's worth Turkey's military has a pretty good record of stepping in when things get out of control but then making the hand-off back to stable civilian leadership once the dust settles.
don"t think Turkey wants to re-assemble the empire again? mayyyybbeee in the offings?
The REVOLUTION is disorganized, huh.
That's a pretty astute observation for a lame White dude with no conception of REVOLUTION, sitting behind a computer screen 5000 miles away!
That's the thing with revolution. One good turn deserves another.
The DB staffers best keep a careful watch. They may suffer an unfortunate accident should they continue this brazen outing the real Power Elites causing so much mischief and misery in the world.
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The Unspontaneous Libyan Revolution
Wednesday, March 09, 2011 – by Staff Report
Qadhafi will be held accountable even if he steps down: U.S. ... In a clear message to Muammar Qadhafi and his aides, the U.S. has said they would be held accountable for human rights violations against their own people, even if the Libyan leader leaves the country, putting an end to his over four-decade long regime. "We want to see Qadhafi step down, and one would infer that in stepping down it is probably best for him to leave the country, to allow a different government to emerge. Any departure from Libya does not exempt him, his family, or others from responsibility and accountability for what has occurred," State Department spokesman P. J. Crowley told reporters at his daily news conference. – Reuters
Dominant Social Theme: Where do all these spontaneous revolutions come from? Is it something in the water?
Free-Market Analysis: The United States and its allies do not want to get involved outright in Libyan warfare, or so we are told, but as we can see from the above article excerpt, the administration has plans for Colonel Qaddafi. Of course, if we peer beneath the surface, we find that the US (and its allies) are far more involved in the Libya "revolution" than it seems on the surface. In this article, we will examine US and Western involvement in the Libyan uprising – much as we have already examined participation in Egypt and Tunisa.
What is the evidence for US involvement in the overthrow of the Libyan dictator? When one lifts the curtain, an obvious portrait of involvement emerges. Pictures, for instance, have emerged of "rebels" carrying "EnoughGaddafi.com" signs. The webmaster of "EnoughGaddafi" is listed as Movements.org – and Movements.org is the network supporting the larger youth movement, with State Department encouragement.
We have written about the Alliance for Youth Movements' worldwide network – a US sponsored organization of vast proportion. Using Internet technology and organizing "youth," the US (and its vast network of intelligence operatives and mercenaries) has successfully destabilized numerous developing countries around the world and actually succeeded in creating regime change in two of them. Doubtless there will be more.
www.thedailybell.com/1800/Protests-Are-a-Force-of-Nature.html
"EnoughGaddafi" material (which can be seen on Twitter) is also archived via Ibrahim Sahad's NFSL site (National Front for the Salvation of Libya). The NFSL, run by Sahad, is apparently headquartered in Washington DC and Sahad, a former captain in the Libyan army, has been making appearances from Washington where he is providing strategic guidance to the revolution. Tony Cartalucci at Land Destroyer wrote a ground-breaking article on Sahad's alliance with the US and pointed out the following:
The Sahad's NCLO began organizing the February 17th "Day of Rage" right on cue as Egypt fell so the mainstream media apparatus could swing around and put the focus on Libya. Conveniently, the media needs only move from Cairo to Egypt's western border and wait for Sahad's men on the ground to secure them a base of operations, presumably in Libya's eastern city of Benghazi. Qaddafi apparently understands the role of NGOs and the foreign media, which is why they are not in the streets of Libya's cities, and coverage has been admittedly daunting.
The pattern repeats itself. Beginning with Tunisa, and then most evidently in Egypt and now Libya, the US and its allies are firmly, tenaciously, in charge of the revolutionary process. The arrogance is breathtaking as is the cynicism. Around the world, staunch US allies – many of them dictators and murderers to be sure – now tremble at the thought that what just happened in Egypt and Tunisia may be visited upon them as well. It used to pay rather well to be a US ally. Not anymore. Hosni Mubarak's fate in particular may be troubling to erstwhile US allies, as Mubarak was as staunch a "friend" of the US and Israel as existed in the Middle East. Yet his regime was very obviously targeted by the same forces that are now at work in Libya.
This is very much an operation of the Anglosphere located primarily in the City of London, Washington DC and the Vatican – three "special cities" that are actually countries unto themselves. Those who see the fine hand of Israel and "Jews" behind all these disruptions will have to explain the dismay of Israel's leaders at the fall of Mubarak. Here's the beginning of a Reuter's story that appeared in late February:
Israel shocked by Obama's "betrayal" of Mubarak ... If Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak is toppled, Israel will lose one of its very few friends in a hostile neighborhood and President Barack Obama will bear a large share of the blame, Israeli pundits said on Monday. Political commentators expressed shock at how the United States as well as its major European allies appeared to be ready to dump a staunch strategic ally of three decades ... Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has told ministers of the Jewish state to make no comment on the political cliffhanger in Cairo, to avoid inflaming an already explosive situation. But Israel's President Shimon Peres is not a minister. "We always have had and still have great respect for President Mubarak," he said on Monday. He then switched to the past tense. "I don't say everything that he did was right, but he did one thing which all of us are thankful to him for: he kept the peace in the Middle East."
Israel is a tool of the Anglo-American elite; the Mossad is a kind of "enforcer" (along with MI6 and the CIA), conveniently placed at the heart of the Middle East from whence all sorts of mischief can emerge and chaos can be fomented. It is apparently a kind of fiefdom of the Rothschild family, which personally paid the bills for the construction of the Knesset and the eerie Supreme Court building with all its Illuminati symbolism. Of course the Rothschild's were instrumental in the creation of Israel before and after World War II, and also helped devise various plans to frighten Jews into "returning" to Israel.
The Rothschilds it should be noted have a strong base of operations in Britain, specifically in the City of London where the strategic braintrust of the New World Order is located. It is run like a mafia family, with the Rothschilds choosing to work with other Jews just as the Italian mafia works with other Italians. The Rothschild's operations are apparently worldwide and the money that the Rothschild's and others control via central banking is virtually limitless.
From this nexus of investment and banking families has spread the plague of mercantilist central banking, which now afflicts the globe. Not content with the ruinous centralization of central banking, the Rothschild's, their allies and intelligence operatives have apparently launched a global attack on developing countries. Libya is just the latest country to receive the "treatment." Even the orchestration is deliberate, with each country falling in line, like dominoes, no two at once to ensure maximum media coverage.
America, like Israel – though to a much greater degree – is the muscular enforcer for the City of London braintrust. There is, in fact, no doubt about American involvement in orchestrating the Libyan revolution, right down to the shiny new flags that were unfurled for the cameras – red-and-green flags of a pre-revolutionary Libya that have now conveniently found their way onto flagpoles of Libyan embassies around the world. The 'flag-change' initiative was taken by the Libyan Human Rights League – another group that "spontaneously" formed in 2005 at the same time as Sahad's NFSL.
There is much hand-wringing currently in the mainstream media about how involved the US and its allies ought to get in the Libyan revolution. We would suggest that the West is already fully involved and that there are likely intelligence agents and Western mercenaries on the ground in Libya helping organize the rebels' military campaigns. While it is no doubt true that the rebels are composed of average Libyan citizens along with many deserters from the Libyan army, it is likely just as true that the groundwork for the Libyan revolution was laid well in advance – organized by the West in the same manner as the other revolutions now taking place.
These are meticulously planned events. No doubt Sahad and his allies constitute a leadership in waiting and he will fly back to Libya at the proper time. Gaddafi has proven to be a much tougher nut to crack than Mubarak or Ben Ali, and thus his emergence onto the world stage may have been put off for a while. But there is little doubt that Gaddafi's days are numbered. There is an army on the ground and it will be buttressed one way or another with Western resources.
Conclusion: The eventual triumph of this latest revolution, when it comes, will be hailed by the Western mainstream media as another miraculous uprising of oppressed people. There is no doubt of the heroism of those Libyans fighting and dying to free their country. But that is obviously not the whole story. And whether the West can maintain control of these revolutions, or whether many will emerge as Islamic republics is an open question. Presumably those helping with the orchestration do not care. (Perhaps they will in a sense control the Islamic republics as well.) Additional Islamic republics only buttress Western authoritarianism at home and provide the pretext for further domestic oppression.
http://www.thedailybell.com/1839/The-Unspontaneous-Libyan-Revolution.html
I agree. Whether it's markets they're after or because Mubarak opposed war with Iran, it's more than obvious. Even more obvious in Lybia.
The joooos must have junked you. The MSM is the originator of the conspiracy theories most call reality. How does it feel to be a punk?
nice diatribe, but maybe do you think with no less than 50% of the population of NEMA under 30 ( some as high as 62%) , unemployed, and in popverty, and hungry, has somethnig to do with it? Couple it with a 7th dirt bag "kill everybody not like us" ideology might influence them?
Riot...Like...a ...E..gypt..ion...
The world is vibrating internally and externally.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php
The tsunami warnings are probably in effect for the East coast of Japan.
In other news, the solar system is close to crossing the galactic plane. Could be an interesting time for seismologists and volcanologists, especially in the 'ring of fire'..
Two, I went there and go lost for an hour, nice place. Glad I had a tottie with me.
a skeptic's view of events in the middle east.......
http://nakedempire.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/paul-buchanan-middle-eastern-transitions-a-skeptics-view/
This is getting just plain ridiculous.
A revolution to counter the revolution leading to a countercounter revolution.
Get your shit right the first time.
i don't think it is officially classified as a bona fide revolution until heads start plopping into baskets...
You're right.
It's not a revolution when you overthrow your government and have no plan what to do afterwords. That's called anarchy.
The thing is, we can never get anarchy to take hold. It only ever shows its head at the most chaotic transition points. People instantly get tired of looking over their shoulder and form a new government as soon as they're able to do so. It is a shame that we humans cannot seem to get this right. Until each of us is able to have the integrity to respect life and property, we'll never see the kind of anarchy that would actually benefit humanity. Perhaps the next iteration of human evolution will allow for that. It doesn't stop at opposable thumbs ya know...
Thanks to government schools, hardly anyone knows that the only peaceful political system is a self-governing one.
All other flavors are nothing more than a strongman with a gun, dictating the behavior of others.
Voluntaryism, FTW!
Do tell more. What form of anarchy is your preference?
The kind of anarchy I envision is only theoretical at this point. It would require of a person integrity and conscience that surpasses anything humans of today have to offer. It would require a more evolved type of human.
Check this out.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3478942683501293346#
I often post this video in conjunction with thoughts on this subject because Prof. Healy can articulate the point much more lucidly than I can. Of course, this is only a dream at this point in time, something that we can strive for. It does, however, have potential to manifest in the way we would like.
I believe if this level of humanity was achieved, we wouldn't need governments anymore. We could live peacefully together and see how far the ride takes us.
why does it seem like that Mexican was just asking to cut his lawn and then all that DMT speak came railing at him??
Not true. Take a close look at what happened leading up to and right after the US revolution. The so called founding fathers were not sure what path they were going to take after they declared independance. Much disagreement. The colonys had no money, no ammunition, no arms. Ben Franklin was probably the only one with a some kind of semblence of how the colonys should be governed. They were in such bad shape they had to go to France for help and money.
I'm sure the contemplation of arrogant idiocy from overprivileged lame White boys sitting at a keyboard occupies a great deal of time and energy among the Egyptian REVOLUTIONARIES.
They probably pontificate on your wisdom between strikes and document raids of police offices, and the liberation of political prisoners.
Chaos != Anarchy
Sometimes these things take a while to get rolling.. history won't wrap things up in a neat package for the 24hr news cycle. We still have plenty of time to make popcorn before things really start heating up.
this will have to wait for WH bulls party
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Obama-to-Host-White-House-Bulls-Vie...
One has to ponder why our founding fathers were so leary of standing armies (as opposed to citizen militias) and the use of centralized government to establish the rule of law. When the rulers are lawless in such a situation the people suffer. When do our days of rage begin?
One has to ponder why our Founding Fathers were more leary of Central Banks than standing armies indeed
I am waiting for the day when Congress gives the bernank a standing army
Aside from a few people who actually ask him pointed questions, they practically give him a standing ovation the way they defer to him.
Who do you think our military and our military contractors report to? Obama?
I pity the fool.
- Mr T. on numerous occasions.
"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended. Its influencein dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war . . . and in the degeneracy of manners and morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
-- James Madison, April 20, 1795
Egypt will muddle into a mess. The big thing will be the release of what the protestors got from the secret service buildings. That is a bomb with a bit of a fuse (week or so till trickle outs and leaks begin... it will be messy, we are in disclosure period).
But the burn will happen in the heart of the AED cross with Parallel 33. Libya, Algeria....
Egypt's 15 minutes is up. Round two is not now.
What is Mr. Google up to, disappeared waiting to magically re-appear to grab some spot-light?
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/axis-of-evil-doing/
Last thing I heard from Mr. Google, he was telling all those striking workers to return to wage slavery and shut the fuck up.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-15/ghonim-calls-for-end-to-protest...
What a fucking clown.
Bankers 2
Egypt 0
Army = Bankers?
Wall Street / Bankers pay the Lobby...
the Lobby Pays the Goobermint...
the Goobermint Pays the Army..
see?
Although there may be less middle men in Egypt, in the Old Spirit of Mubarak ways.
And America has strong-armed it's way around the world to supply Americans with cheap oil. Your Ponzi was based on cheap oil, which is coming to an end. Hard times are coming to America. You should head to the wood, this is your natural habitat. Florida is one of the last place you want to be, solar energy and a bunker is not going to save you.
I dont need to be saved from the world...
And where would you put a bunker in Florida? I am on the water in South and North FL.. and I will let you google ButtonWood Marathon.. to figure out the water table there.. maybe in Spanish Cay? nope water table issues once again..
So, no high ground.. no bunker and flip flops instead of boots.. and I am still not worried about it..
I look at the lights going out as a maybe a new start.. away from Lobby Whores and Wanker Bankers.. but maybe thats not it at all, maybe its just them getting a bigger and better foot hold?
It doesnt matter, I fish now.. I will fish then.. and whatever happens is Gods Will any way.
What, citizens don't like military governments? This is truly shocking news. These people need a despot that will promise them "change".
What's the record for most revolution/counter-revolutions in one year? 100T future bernanke buck note says Hosni&sons end up back running the country again.
Libertarians should be put in reeducation camps to teach them the love of our country and our people.
Haters of President Obama and haters of socialism have no place in the XXIst century America. They are bigots living in the past.
-socialism +corporate socialism
...just another brick in the wall.
Pyramid.
Egypty is revolting, after all.
Somebody shoot me.
"Egypty is revolting..."
Well, they might counter that you're not so hot looking yourself ;)
;)
A sophist and a Misean walk into a bar...
This is definitely bullish for stocks and bearish for oil.
apparently the DOW thinks so.....boy what a butt-ugly chart, but the pricks might yet get their green close.......
Spinmisters on Saudi evolution (-R) -- James Smith, U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia provides the snarl'n marlin and waxes on:
Bloomberg: U.S.'s Smith Says Saudis Need F-15 Jets, Helicopters: Videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBoRe0HS8I&feature=feedu
hey GW - hows that "democracy in just 9 days" working out for you?
Don't hold your breath waiting for a response. Standing behind arguments is not in the playbook when inconvenient.
I love how people cling to a dubious story, sourcing dubious people, citing dubious evidence about dubious phenomena as a way of proving their point.
Revolution-Democracy?? Hilarious.... Just wait awhile longer, the world will be held hostage to an Oil embargo and only gold will be accepted.
i know! and did you see that recent blurb where the US is no longer a food exporter, but is now a net food importer? well, i guess that just makes any US proposal to just stick their worthless dollars up their uno whatses and only accept oil for US food, at a ratio to be determined by the PPT, of course, seem a bit moot for the time being, a little premature, perhaps... ...?
Where's that fuckwit who posted on earlier threads about "Whitey sniping from behind his keyboard"?
What have you got to say now, arsewipe?
I'm not sure what this article shows that's so definitive:
The counter-revolutionary junta warns of the counter-revolution - whoopieshit.
Obviously the military junta, as well and the entrenched power of Capital in Egypt, are going to sew the seeds of distention far and wide. The last thing they want is a real REVOLUTION, and that's precisely what's staring them in the face.
What this (Dow Jones) piece avoids, however, are the nationwide strikes, the liberation of prisoners, the attacks upon the corrupt police stations, etc. that continue daily throughout the country.
It avoids the fact that the junta has turned over its 'leadership' like flapjacks every couple days!
Meanwhile, the same behavior persists on the ZeroHedge message board today that was manifest a month ago - lame Monday morning quarterbacking by lame, overprivileged White guys about a reality they cannot begin to comprehend.
That you're so eager to bury a REVOLUTION that continues to move betrays your own position on the matter.
Nothing more.
Anybody who has read "Animal Farm" knows how this will end.
That said, if the Egyptian public can keep up their direct actions, then maybe they have a chance at freedom.
Good Luck Egyptians. Dont settle for less.
Yo dawg, I heard you like revolutions, so we put a revolution in your revolution, so you can free yourself while you free yourself.
duh. don't forget! we have reciprocal render/rendition and torture with the new egyptian guy, too, b/c he, uh, handled this shit for ye olde guy, i can't think of his name, right now...
so we are making room for these troublemakers in gitmo, toot sweet, and, uh,...don't get captured by the americans right now, either, ok?
bradley manning coming to mind, offhand...once an intel officer in kuwait, bradley is now a private first-class, fighting for his worthless, dumb-ass life. here's the link to the mar. 20 code pink bingo bus to Quantico to throw shoes: Bradley Manning Humiliated and Abused: Why Is Exposing a War Crime More Dangerous Than Committing One? | News & Politics | AlterNet
and here's the ny times' take, from mar. 4: Soldier in Leaks Case Will Be Made to Sleep Naked Nightly - NYTimes.com
next thing ya know, they'll discharge him for some admin reason and he'll want a fuking disability!!! he may have hurt his back tryin to imitate the popinjay strut, there, eh?
Ya know, some of your posts come real close to revealing coherent thoughts -- watch it!
I always thought the Egyptian military is a bright carrier of Western democracy to Africa as Al Jazeera, an extremely incorrupt and trustworthy medium, taught me since late January. Now I am duly disappointed when reading ZH.
tyler is a compleat fuking psych-job, blak4est
Meet the new Boss, Same as the old Boss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
Until the old Sphinx awakes and gives its verdict, there will be no resolution in Egypt. Napoleon found that out at the battle of the Pyramids. He asked the Sphinx's blessing saying to his men...be courageous...then looking at the Sphinx he said exhorting his men..."thirty centuries contemplate you"...They won the battle but lost the War as Napoleon had to fall back to France when Nelson burnt his fleet at Aboukir. The Sphinx only gave him temporary, token approval... To survive in Egypt you need it's unconditional nod...the people haven't got it ...yet...
Israel never was a tool of anybody,but the God messanger,its better to listen to Israel,rather to some of it government representatives misleading not just the World people,but own people too,so,make sure you talking about some lobbing groups trying to get Israel to be marionete,forget it.
Most people unknowledged,but you will learn that later,whats is in Israel,so its in the World!
but for now,please
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i always vote absentee. can we get more pictures? and maybe talk a bit more about yerself and how you like things, best?
Christian protesters clashed with Muslims in Cairo
Ten killed & 110 injured in Egypt religious clashes
http://www.alarabiya.net/mob/en/140802.html
caution when looking at revolution. it dont always work out
Especially when you don't bother to allow for political movement and pronounce dead what is still gaining strength.
Here's a contrary (indigenous) view of TD's posting of Dow Jones' pro-junta agitprop:
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentPrint/1/0/7321/Egypt/0/Activists-...
Meanwhile:
And one more:
Those REVOLUTIONARIES sure have a lot to learn from lame White internet snipers.