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Egypt Promptly Turns Ugly Again As 4 Protesters Killed By Pro-Mubarak Supporters: Al Jazeera, Al Masriya And CNN Live Feeds

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After what was largely a quiet day, events in Cairo's Tahrir square have taken a turn for the worse, after at least four protesters were killed and thousands more injured after semi-automatic gunfire erupted, supposedly out of the pro-Mubarak supporters, some of whom were previously exposes as being Egyptian police. End result - Egypt CDS (ignoring that ludicrous $25.5 million AUM EGPT ETF, which for some ungodly reason is supposed to represent the entire Egyptian stock market) are about to bounce once again, two days ahead of the February 4-5 "Days of Rage" in Syria, and as concerns about a Suez stoppage and Saudi contagion spread yet again.

As usual below is the Al Jazeera live feed...

And this time we add the CNN live feed as well (switch to stream 2), together with a feed from Al Masriya and the Egyptian State TV.

 


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Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:46 | Link to Comment BobbyTinGA
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Poor Anderson Cooper got beat up.  Revolutions can be messy, especially when the tyrant sends the palace guards out to the streets in civilian clothes to rough up the masses.

 

It's gonna be a wild ride...

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment Michael
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Junk this you Israeli ass lickers.

The war mongers on TV will tell you to fear Muslim ideology and Israel is in danger. I’m getting sick and tired of this BULLSHIT!

Let me set you straight right now on that issue.

NO COUNTRY IS GOING TO INVADE AND DESTROY ISRAEL EVER UNLESS THEY WANT A COUPLE DOZEN NUKES SHOVED UP THEIR ASS.

ISRAEL HAS 300+ NUKES OF THEIR OWN AND WILL USE THEM IF THEY NEED TO. STOP SENDING US FOREIGN AID TO ISRAEL.

Make lots of signs for TV that say;

ISRAEL HAS 300+ NUKES! DON’T FEEL? SORRY FOR THEM!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:23 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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UNLESS THEY WANT A COUPLE DOZEN NUKES SHOVED UP THEIR ASS.

If that happened the DOW would be up tripple digits. Nuclear holocaust will not result in the S&P 500 to suffer even 1 down day, Ben will make sure of it.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Michael
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I just posted this comment on about 100 youtube videos in all languages.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:13 | Link to Comment flacon
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Meanwhile... back in silver-land: APMEX runs out of 2011 Silver Eagles.... 


http://www.apmex.com/Category/160/Silver_Eagles___Uncirculated_2011__Prior.aspx

 

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:05 | Link to Comment Michael
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Be aware of the American MSM brainwashing tactic and conditioning you, TO REPEAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING WHEN OUR TIME COMES.

On every channel they are repeating over and over again;

WHERE IS THE MILITARY? WHERE ARE THE POLICE? WHY DON'T THEY STEP IN TO BREAK UP THE PROTESTS?

THIS IS SURELY A SOCIAL ENGINEERING TACTIC THEY ARE USING ON YOU. All the networks are doing it.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:31 | Link to Comment sabra1
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did you know that michael is a jewish name? is that a missile up your ass, or is it the bernanks little timmy up there?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 07:15 | Link to Comment Michael
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This should make you feel better.

Homey D. Clown Don't Play That Police State Shit Thus Revolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaebXLxuxmY

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 05:56 | Link to Comment Michael
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Looks like the US $1/2 trillion dollars spent on US foreign aid in the past 10 years has been pissed away for nothing.

All that money pissed away on other countries sure could have gone a long way in helping our own people, right here in our own country.

U.S. Foreign Aid Summary 2001-2010

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:04 | Link to Comment Michael
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Israeli ass licking junkers seem to be out in force.

They are like the richest country in the region . They don't need our money.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:06 | Link to Comment Shylockracy
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Michael, your points are fair and valid, but please take it easy on the boldface and caps lock.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:15 | Link to Comment Michael
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Sorry.

That Lindsey Olin Graham (born July 9, 1955), the senior U.S. Senator from South Carolina, just really pissed me off.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:28 | Link to Comment Michael
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Carter says Israel has 150-300 Nukes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8DNbcSiHA

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Bruin4
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This is courtesy of theautomaticearth.blogspot.com

2/2/2011

As the White House role-plays anger over Mubarak's goon-squads beating up on the very same people it lauded only yesterday, it might be good to remember that the Egyptian president has been a US and Israel puppet for 30 years, and that he's consistently been the number 1 US ally when it comes to renditions, torture and disappearances in the aftermath of 9/11. By the way, whatever happened to Guantanamo Bay? Wasn't there a promise to close it 2 years ago at a certain president's inauguration? Is that the sort of timeframe we're to expect when Hillary robot-talks about a "smooth transition"?

We are in so deep, the tangled web the US has woven over the past 30 to 50 years is truly the matrix.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 04:42 | Link to Comment walcott
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amen brother!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 08:08 | Link to Comment israhole
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I like Mike!  +1

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:43 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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I won't junk you ....... good for you .... tell it like it is ....... Israel controls the U.S GOVERNMENT & they are proud of it.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 02:12 | Link to Comment Milton Waddams
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The greatest story that will never be told is the overarching-conspiracy is that there is no uniformed conspiracy.

 

The power "they" have  attained is what "you" attribute to "them".

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 03:26 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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It's not attribution. It's the fear of bodily injury, if not total and complete loss.

Are you one of these anti-reality Sunstein trolls?

Explain this:

America is a cage

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 07:40 | Link to Comment pan-the-ist
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The Mubarak supporters are reminding the world what real Fascism looks like.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:20 | Link to Comment Fred123
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Yeah, maybe thats what needs to happen is for Israel to shove a few nukes up the arab/muslim worlds ass. Hopefully that would spell the end of islam, the plague of mankind.

The world markets would soar for weeks on that news.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 08:14 | Link to Comment israhole
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So says the racist.  Many people see that jew-controlled media hypocrisy preaches multiculturalism and acceptance of others, but since jews hate Muslims and want their land, we're all "allowed" to dump on them.

The world must DUMP ISRAEL to have any  peace.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 08:21 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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how about nuke muslims AND zionists??  why give a shit about either side

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment financeguru500
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Apparently the protestors are republicans. They must not like cnn all that much lol.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:03 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Maybe they know CNN is total garbage?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:11 | Link to Comment President Palin
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Maybe they know CNN is total garbage?

It is not as bad as FOX news...

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:32 | Link to Comment flacon
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At least Faux News has exposé's on Fraction Reserve Banking, the Federal Reserve, and the importance of buying gold and silver and stocking up of food. I never saw those sorts of news stories on any other of the alphabets. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Sarah Conner
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+1

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:45 | Link to Comment Freddie
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They all suck but Fox is slightly better than others.  CNN and the others spew the Obama love propaganda 24x7. Good economy, QE 2,3,4 and 5 are working, Bernake is under control. The standard lies CNN, MSNBC,CNBC,Bloomberg, NBC, ABC, CBS and to a lesser extent Fox spew 24x7.   Fox slight spreads less pro-Obama endless love like the others.

I cancelled it all because it is all shit.

As far as who shot whom?  We have no idea.  Anyone's guess so folks don't start saying it was Mubarak's guys or the army or anyone else cause you have no clue.

"..after semi-automatic gunfire erupted, supposedly out of the pro-Mubarak supporters.."

Idiots believing anything from any media. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:20 | Link to Comment Michael
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Be aware of the American MSM brainwashing tactic and conditioning you TO REPEAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING WHEN OUR TIME COMES.

On every channel they are repeating over and over again;

WHERE IS THE MILITARY? WHERE ARE THE POLICE? WHY DON'T THEY STEP IN TO BREAK UP THE PROTESTS?

THIS IS SURELY A SOCIAL ENGINEERING TACTIC THEY ARE USING ON YOU. All the networks all doing it.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Freddie
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This is a "Wag The Camel" operation.  Obama will save the world and get another Nobel prize.  Bank on it. 

This is all full time and ENDLESS propaganda to distract you from the US being looted by The Benank, Wall Street and Obama.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 07:59 | Link to Comment Twindrives
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Agree, the U.S. media suck.

 

Just like the foreign born U.S. president and his fugly wife Michelle. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:03 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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AP - mouthpiece of Sauron - reporting:

Four army tanks have moved into positions protecting the anti-government protest camp in Cairo's Tahrir Square hours after automatic weapons fire pounded the demonstrators before dawn on Thursday.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/31/international/i004223S20.DTL#ixzz1CttYQPto

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:34 | Link to Comment sabra1
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why isn't CNBC over there?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment financeguru500
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Apparently the protestors are republicans. They must not like cnn all that much lol.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:36 | Link to Comment bankonzhongguo
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Its worth struggling (laughing) through the Arab translation of the Arab version of Al-Jeezera to read some of the more Arab centric reporting.  Somehow the English version of AJ is like FauxNewz.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.aljazeera...

 

Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a prominent cleric throughout the Arab world (and banned from US travel) came out and stated that "all people" should go out to protest and/or aid the injured and that Mubarak was killing his own people. 'live a good life (with Mubarak's overthrow) or die as martyrs.'  PS: This guy isn't Mother Theresa, but he's not AQ either.  Friday is the next big day! He's your next favorite trend setter.

Its clear in the minds of most Arabs that Mubarak is only US/Israel's man.  The longer he stays on the worse it goes for the US.  Someone in the Army is going to retire Mubarak.

Meanwhile, the government's (Mubarak/Obama) strategy is to starve out the protest - most food out of ports are stalled.  Most major cities don't have more than a week's worth of food in inventory.  When you find out your mother doesn't have bread, you are going to fight a little harder. 

All those big brain blue blood CFR thinkers are going to have their asses handed to them.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:10 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 Impossible...look how well Iran worked...err

   Never mind.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:57 | Link to Comment Michael
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In Arabic, al-Qaeda has four syllables. However, the closest naturalized English pronunciations include /æl-ka-d/, /æl-ke-d/ Al-Qaeda's name can also be transliterated as al-Qaida, al-Qa'ida, el-Qaida, or al-Qaeda.

The name comes from the Arabic noun q'idah, which means foundation or basis, and can also refer to a military base. The initial al- is the Arabic definite article the, hence the base.

Bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Alouni in October 2001:

The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:26 | Link to Comment Carl Spackler
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This Egypt thing has gone far enough.

Surely, the haberdashers on Savile Row must be in all-out panic.

What will they now sew their french cuffs with?

Cotton from Mississippi?

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 06:08 | Link to Comment Michael
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Looks like the US $1/2 trillion dollars spent on US foreign aid in the past 10 years has been pissed away for nothing.

All that money pissed away on other countries sure could have gone a long way in helping our own people, right here in our own country!

U.S. Foreign Aid Summary 2001-2010

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Carl Spackler
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Bribery doesn't work over the long term, because the other party's expectations reset to entitlement status.

So, yes, that money has been wasted.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:49 | Link to Comment saulysw
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Mubarak will end up dead if he is not careful...

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:52 | Link to Comment BobbyTinGA
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Kind of reminds me of this site's motto. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:17 | Link to Comment financeguru500
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On a long enough protest... even journalists get beat up lol.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:51 | Link to Comment Freddie
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More like journalists aka paid propagandist fake getting roughed up to make themselves part of the story.  They are all whores.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:00 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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Back stateside, Cooper would have had to shell out real money for treatment like that.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:00 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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He could have had a nice quiet place to retire in Israel or western Europe.  Too late now.  No one's going to take this hot potato.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Michael
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They are scheduled to move on to his palace tomorrow.

I would hijack some of those tanks and unload on his ass.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:01 | Link to Comment minus dog
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Some dude in the street has little or no chance of hopping into a main battle tank and getting it to do anything.  Hell, most of them probably aren't even strong enough to load the main gun.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 03:00 | Link to Comment BorisTheBlade
Thu, 02/03/2011 - 11:29 | Link to Comment downrodeo
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"It's very loud and I catch pungent lungfuls of its generous exhaust fumes"

..smells like victory!

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:50 | Link to Comment gookempucky
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How IRONIC the egyptians fighting for our rights.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment redarrow
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Indeed. Egypt will be the better for it, we not as much.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Yes, and how ironic that we twiddle our thumbs and seem more worried about the Superbowl and our Cotton Candy stockmarket.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 02:12 | Link to Comment Popo
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Why do we keep calling them "protesters".  This is a revolution, not a protest.  

A "protest" is a bunch of college kids carrying placards and playing hackey sack.

A "revolution" is a million people torching the city.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:43 | Link to Comment pan-the-ist
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The city isn't getting torched.  The only thing that got torched was the ruling party's headquarters.  How many shekels do you get paid per post?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 12:03 | Link to Comment VisualCSharp
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You are an idiot.

The protests were quite peaceful until Mubarak's regime paid thugs $17/d (compared to $2/d for the average Egyptian) to start shit. If you had a group of thugs throwing Molotovs your way you would defend yourself too.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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They need to put Ben Bernanke down there to roam around saying "Inflation is overstated" just over and over again. Psy ops bitchez

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:54 | Link to Comment Cursive
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@bob_dabolina

Roam around?  Shit, he'll just hover in the heli and drop his psy ops on the assembled masses.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:02 | Link to Comment MayIMommaDogFac...
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With Die Walküre:  "Ride of the Valkyries" blaring on the loudspeaker as he swoops in.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:09 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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No way, that's too American.  He needs to have local sensabilities.  Ride in on a chariot.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Ride in on a camel/wearing turban and waving scimitar while maniacaly screaming that there is no inflation.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 05:13 | Link to Comment johny2
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++

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:09 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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LMAO  Thnx

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment vote_libertaria...
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but but but CNBC this was 'fixed' and to buy buy buy

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Israel has to be shitting in its yarmulke

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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I don't see why they would really care much.  Egypt's past wars with Israel didn't go so well for Egypt, and Israel is far stronger now than it was then.  I expect Israel is watching with the same interest that the US is watching the drug killings in Mexico.  Perhaps less.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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this is going to spread and then they will be surrounded and Obama isnt going to know what to do......

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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1) They're used to being surrounded.

2) You think Obama takes care of Israel?  I think you might have the relationship a bit confused.

3) See my prior post.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 08:25 | Link to Comment israhole
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All the US has to do is take care of itself, and DUMP ISRAEL!

With regard to Israel crapping it's yarmulke, these events will cause many dual-citizens in host nations to reconsider "making aliyah".  Israel is a failed state and can't get enough jews to move there as it is.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:35 | Link to Comment spongeBOB
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Israel's past war with Egypt didn't go too well for Egypt? They lost half their airforce and if wasn't for their puppet the US and the soviet cowards who were pressured into abandoning the Egyptians Israel would've been history.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 M1 Abrams vs Merkavas...

   Egypt is no push over...they got stronger in the interim too.

 It would be ugly, and the threat would mandate Israel to spend much more money on securing the border.

  Not to mention the hilarity that would ensue if a Gaza-Egypt lend lease program started.

 The Israelis are absolutely freaking out, if past behavior is any indicator.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:32 | Link to Comment spongeBOB
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War with Egypt would be ugly and it won't be contained to Egypt. As far as the Merkavas, they didn't do them any good against Hizbollah in 06 when they destoyed them with hand held rockets.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 That small Russian rocket was very effective.And Egypt has Hellfires as well.

   It would be a horrific mess, and Israel would suffer significant losses.

 But even if it never goes "hot", Israel is going to have to divert resources to confront the threat.

  They have focused for a long time now on low intensity conflict...and the 06 conflict proved they were ill trained.For that matter, the incident on the high seas where they killed the members of the flotilla showed total ineptitude as well.

 We will see.

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:56 | Link to Comment Freddie
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The majority of American Jews voted for this along with union Catholics when they voted for the Muslim.  They still love the Muslim. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:46 | Link to Comment pan-the-ist
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I hope Obama converts to Islam before he leaves office just to completely piss off stupid people like you.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 03:16 | Link to Comment optimator
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In all the wars,  except for the '73 war, Israel began by destroying the Arab air forces on the ground.  In the '73 war, which Egypt started, Israel had to call in Uncle Sam to save them.  Israel threatened the use of nukes unless Henry Kissenger started a U.S. airlift of weaponry.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Cursive
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Hmm.  Still very early, but there seems to be a faction within Egypt that is not ready to rest.  regime change or bust.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:57 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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And the main default pages of MSN and the like in the U.S.A. say:

"Best Superbowl Commercials Ever!"

"Bieber Fever!"

"52 Ways to cut clutter in Your House!"

etcetera

The "guardians of democracy" have become ZOMBIES.

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Misean
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Egyptian's don't watch the Superbowl?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Even I am getting a little tired of egypt.  Xhamster is more interesting...and my god...the tranny porn!  strapon bitches!  They got everything!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I've been seeing "Bankruptcy" on the top 10 feed a lot lately.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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We are not guarding it, we are hoarding it so we can eliminate it in one fell swoop.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:00 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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And I think this Bieber creature is some kind of Canadian plot to rip the hull of our ship of state below the waterline....before they get destroyed by glaciers.

Wed, 02/02/2011 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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Didn't they get Hillary's memo? She told them to have a peaceful and orderly protest.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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They couldn't hear the memo by virtue of the gun fire and explosions everywhere.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:59 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Poor Chelsea got dumped by her ex-hedge fund yarmulke boy who's daddy is a felon like her daddy.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 08:29 | Link to Comment israhole
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:)

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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CNN, while people where getting shot from rooftops, had some geek interviewing Barbara Walters. Then, we have to watch 50 times Cooper getting his hair mussed, instead of what is going on on the ground. Of course, CNN is cooped up in a basement somewhere. They are irrelevant as a viable news source.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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that's what happens when you don't have censor deals for access that CNN had with Saddam.   Or have a fake studio like Charles Jaco during the gulf war.  CNN is slipping!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:39 | Link to Comment spongeBOB
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I saw that on a show called Piers Morgan something. ( who the fuck is piers morgan?) She went as far as acusing Mubarak of plotting Anwar Sadat assasination 30 years ago !!! that and defending Israel.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:46 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Yeah...that's the geek I was referring to.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:11 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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Muslim Brotherhood offshoot: Islamic Jihad

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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Sad, yet rather predictable.

Seems likely that this marks the turning point to civil war.  It may fester under the surface for some time, but I don't see it going away.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:06 | Link to Comment Dr. Porkchop
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The US would like nothing better than for it to develop into a civil war, because then they'd have a script they are familiar with... demonizing the enemies of their puppet. It segues nicely into their extremist fear rhetoric as well.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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No matter history's course, Obama will have not the faintest idea of what to do.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:23 | Link to Comment gwar5
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'Bamm the sham.

The Nobel Peace prize is really slumming it these days

Egyptians are actually blaming Obama for triggering the violence

Bamm said "OK, orderly transition."  But then messed it up by also saying, "now."

He shouldn't have even given a speech right after Mubarack

The dirty little secret? Hosni Mubarack is dying anyway.

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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Perhaps.  It seems likely that the US had some hand in these developments, but they got far out of any shred of US control (as is so often the case).  Yet, the US may view it as a "win" in various scenarios:

1) Democratic pro-western government in Egypt - unlikely, but would be an obvious win.

2) Heavily undermined Mubarak stays in power - we can save money by cutting off aid, but he can't really do much different without someone starting a hot war against him.

3) Civil war - as you say, gives the US a new hot zone and some new James Bond-style enemy to keep the US masses pacified with.  Could also give us a reason to go in and "defend" the Suez Canal, thereby saving on transit fees and getting priority access.

4) Islamic revolution - like #3 but without the same likelihood of our "liberating" the canal.  Potentially offers us a 3-front war in the Muslim world, just when 2 fronts was getting boring.  Win for defense contractors and sociopathic destroyers of our young male population.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:04 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Yeah, that's pretty much how I was gaming it. Hosni might not need the USA.

If I was Saudi Arabia I'd pay Mubarack to crack down (just saying).

If he goes, they go, and they have tons of money and a lot to lose.

In the bunker, Mubarack was probably casting about for a lifeline

He might have gotten it. I wouldn't rule out Israel $$ either, absurd as it sounds.

Egypt is their firewall. Israel can't fight this one, but they can pay and make promises.

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:02 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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march oil contract moved above 91 in after hours trading.  I'm going to be disciplined this time...I will outsmart that diabolical fiend eventually.  You just try to cross 92.50...just try it...I dare you!  But please do it in the next couple of days.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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All these peacfull protests represent is a feel good moment.  They had the government on the ropes several days ago but by playing to the Western media instead of taking the necessary steps agains the police and the leaders they allowed them to regroup and have lost the momentum.  The protesters get slaughtered from this point forward.  Dictators don't listen to reason.  The idea that you can negotiate with them or put pressure on them is folly.  They need to be dealt with "by any means necessary."      

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:09 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Agreed.  When they had Mubarak holed up in the defense ministry with about three hundred of his elite guard that was the time to take over all the other ministries, appoint a president and ministers,  announce elections in three months, announce a general amnesty for police and mubarak government officials, and start governing. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 04:02 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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I would suggest that perhaps it would be a good idea to start writing some sort of guide book on how to execute a successful revolution, and avoid all these nasty surprises!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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A very large chunk of the billion plus dollars that goes to Egypt, goes to it's military. The bulk of the Egyptian Military's weapons are US, and that includes high technology weapons like F-16's, helicopters, and M1 tanks. These weapons have sophisticated electronics and avionics systems that require US manufactured parts and technicians to keep in the field. In order to allow the US contractors to pump up their balance sheets, a lot of information is not relayed to the end-user of these weapons. So, a General Dynamics or a Northrop maintain maintenance crews in these countries to keep the equipment going. So, the US not only has that billion dollars to bargain with to get the Egyptian military to force Mubarak out, they have the practical ability to reduce their military's force-projection and defense capability to a much lower order in 90 days or so. In addition , they can stop selling them bombs and ammo....an F-16 without bombs and main-gun shells eventually becomes impotent. For a country that worries about an Iran and an Israel, this is a big deal.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 02:33 | Link to Comment Milton Waddams
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this is precisely why the army is standing aside.  Intervention would be bad publicity for the US.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:26 | Link to Comment FranSix
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Been following, this is the location the al Jazzeera camera is pointing to from one of the hotels on the left, over the approaches to the bridge, controlled by pro-Mubarak:

http://tinyurl.com/6yjpjp9

Tahrir square is some distance, so the network does not have the correct information here.  The anti-government protest outweighs the pro-Government by an order of magnitude.  This is a minority trying to wrestle control of the revolt from the media.  

The media have been chased out of the streets in the meantime, so they have no news feed to offer, so we are getting filler until the sun rises and the cameras go back into the street.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:59 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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AC 180 oughta dye his hair black overnight, and a mustache would be handy for today.   And a little shoe polish on the face.   Couric should just go home before she misses the oscars.   Amanpour just got a wake up call to real life, "they don't like me, they really don't like me!"  lol

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:14 | Link to Comment FranSix
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I'm sick of listening to the histrionics from Al Jazzeera, that it was such a peaceful protest infringed upon by thugs with police ID, because they're killing our babies.  

Over 100 people died before today, so that makes it almost as violent as the Tunisian revolt.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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wtf? /es down 2 points? Sack/Frost better fire up their trading stations and at least push those fuckers to /unchanged.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:16 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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wasnt it peaceful protests untill they started getting shot at!

1 well placed cruise missile, and its all over. cmon america, russia, china anyone?

someone help out the truobled masses.

 

as a reminder you americans have to think twice about draconian gun laws.

no guns = pigs ina pen like the egytians

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:19 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Those of us not stuck in the 60's hugging trees realize that.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:17 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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Your way with word is rapidly making you my favorite poster.  Tell me, how do you REALLY feel about it? ;)

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:24 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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What is going on in Egypt now is the best argument available - for a populace, for gun ownership, and probably the best argument - for a government, for gun control.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:29 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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What?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:22 | Link to Comment ColonelCooper
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+++.  Scares the shit outta me to think what that clusterfuck would look like if there were a million guns and a half a million quarts of Jack there.

An armed revolution would take a LITTLE more planning than so far exhibited there.  (Note to jackboots: The Colonel is not advocating armed revolutions against lawful peace loving governments who only know what's best for their "Homer Simpson" like citizens.  Got it Cass Sunstein?)

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:18 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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Holy Shit, the live feed looks like a Dick Cheney hunting trip!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:39 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Not enough wounded lying around for that kind of gig.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:20 | Link to Comment moofph
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...it is obvious the less money you make the better the footage of news...people risking their lives to show reality from their cell phone...while the millionaired teleprompter readers cowardly huddle in a corner putting band aids on paper cuts...in fear of freedom.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:31 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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And the only real live feed from Aljazeera while all the monied American networks don't do shit.

The revolution will not be televised, you will probably have to use an A.M. or HAM radio with signals coming from Canada to know about it.

What a joke the U.S.A. has become.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:35 | Link to Comment gookempucky
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Completely

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:32 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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The deafening roar of White House silence is alienating Egyptians. To them the US has been a place of high ideals. But now there's the smell of oil and money in the air. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:34 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Agreed.

Shameful silence.

I am embarrassed.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:35 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Nah...thats the smell of a president's tiny balls.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:41 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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To most people in the world, there's no distinction between the opinions and actions of The White House and those of  all Americans. 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Well, do I sound like someone who fucking cares?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 02:11 | Link to Comment Freddie
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WTF? You are talking high ideals etc.  If we get involved then we are meddling.  You want to pick the govt?  None of your business - it is the Egyptians business.

High moral ideals and actions of Americans?  You live in an incredibly corrupt country now being looted by people like Obama, Daley, Rahm et al with Daley of JP Morgan's payroll and Rahm on Goldman Sachs.  So if you are expecting morality and ideals from America then forget it.  That was dying pre-2008 and died in late 2008.

As far as who the good guys and who are the bad guys in Egypt? You don't know and no one on this message board knows.  People just sucking up CNN and the other TV and news media liars propaganda.

I thought their were a few bright people on ZH but it is a lot of emotional TV watchers being manipulated by liars like Anderson Cooper, Whorealdo and Amanapor.  TV is shit and so is the "news."

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:05 | Link to Comment Common_Cents22
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Don't forget about the silence about Honduras and Iran last year by the administration.

 

That's above Obama's paygrade.  I have a tee time bitches!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:33 | Link to Comment Sizzurp
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OK I think I have the perfect way out of this.  Netanyahu calls Mubarak and says "Hey, I got this idea.  I will send in an Invasion force of tanks across your eastern desert, then your people will be infuriated and rally around you.  You then send out a force to meet our invasion, we have a little battle.  The Israeli force backs off, retreating back across the border.  You look like a hero and all is well in Camelot, or Cameltoe.  Whaddyu think."

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:37 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Only if the Saudi's agree because it will spike the price of oil and stoke nationalism versus the urge to shrug off the societal placenta of monarchy.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:11 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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societal placenta of monarchy

Is that, like...the afterbirth of a really big butterfly?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:37 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Have to ask Sharon first...if we can understand him through the incessant slobbering.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:36 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Feb 3. (Bloomberg) -- U.S. State Department officials granted Jones Lang LaSalle and CB Richard Ellis exclusive first rights to build and market office buildings and shopping malls in Cairo once Murabak is deposed and leaves the country.

LOL....

Another global retail spending boom?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 02:16 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Are you serious?  JLL is a Chicago based company and CBG is in LA.  Good find.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 05:09 | Link to Comment BorisTheBlade
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lolwut, both are brokers, not developers. good try though, with some skill it can go viral just like this story of the Serbian tourist killing the shark by a virtue of falling on it.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 10:28 | Link to Comment Pchelar
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Serbs, the don't like Muslims, they don't like sharks...

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:37 | Link to Comment Arch Duke Ferdinand
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Food and water shortage growing.

Desperate actions will accelerate from both sides now.

...Sad...

Safest location in the world is unquestionably, Canada's four Western Provinces...led by it's Gateway City..Vancouver BC.

...The four Western Provinces own a plethora of natural resources w/ only 12.5 million citizens!

http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-vancouver-bc-is-worlds-safe-haven.html

 

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:20 | Link to Comment frippy
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Hongcouver?

Richard, I'll pass.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 03:07 | Link to Comment SilverRhino
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And would be ruled by the unorganized militias of Idaho and Montana if they felt like getting groggy with Western Canada.

12.5 million? If you want to keep that wealth you better arm up

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:38 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Cant we all just get along?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 02:45 | Link to Comment Michael
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Really. With a name like yours?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:40 | Link to Comment Sizzurp
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Canada, no way, we are entering another ice age.  It will be covered in glaciers soon.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:43 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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Now hold on there....Al Gore says this cold weather is evidence of global warming.....

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:03 | Link to Comment e1618978
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We are already in an ice age, have been for 2.5 million years.  We are just in a brief interglacial period in a larger ice age.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:08 | Link to Comment Aristarchan
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And that proves what Al Gore is saying..right?....right?

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 09:53 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
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Man Bear Pig.....Fear him, fear him now, fear him more than AQ, fear him more than MB, wait a minute... he is all those things and more, coming for your women, coming for your freedoms, coming for your bananna cream pie....FEAR the Man Bear Pig and keep watching television....

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:53 | Link to Comment gloomboomdoom
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Bernanke is playing with fire (the whole world).

Help us! I want humanity to carryon!

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 01:13 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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Benron already sees humanity as carrion.

Thu, 02/03/2011 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Sizzurp
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I think BB needs to print more rice, wheat,oil and beans.  Maybe a few more hot babes too.  Then we would be fine.

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