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Is the Egyptian Government Using Agents Provocateur to Justify a Crack Down On the Protesters?
Al Jazeera reported today:
[Al
Jazeera reporter] Ayman Mohyeldin reports that eyewitnesses have said
"party thugs" associated with the Egyptian regime's Central Security
Services - in plainclothes but bearing government-issued weapons - have
been looting in Cairo. Ayman says the reports started off as isolated
accounts but are now growing in number.
The Telegraph reports:
"Thugs"
going around on motorcycles looting shops and houses, according to
Al Jazeera. They say they are getting more and more reports of
looting. More worryingly, one group of looters who were captured by
citizens in the upmarket Cairo district of Heliopolis turned out to
have ID cards identifying them as members of the regime security
forces.
Similarly, Egyptian newspaper Al MasryAlyoum provides several eyewitness accounts of agents provacateur:
Thugs looting residential neighborhoods and intimidating civilians are government-hires, say eyewitnesses.
In
Nasr City, an Eastern Cairo neighborhood, residents attempting to
restore security told Al-Masry Al-Youm that looters were caught
yesterday.“They were sent by the government. The government got
them out of prison and told them to rob us,” says Nameer Nashaat, a
resident working alongside other youths to preserve order in the
district. “When we caught them, they said that the Ministry of Interior
has sent them.”In Masr al-Qadeema, another district, scrap metal
dealer Khaled Barouma, confirmed the same account. “The government let
loose convicts. They let them out of prisons. We all know them in this
neighborhood,” he said, adding that the neighborhood’s youth is trying
to put the place in order by patrolling its streets with batons.“The
government wants people to believe that this is an uprising of
convicts, which is not the case. The government is the one that is a
criminal,” Khalil Fathy, a local journalist covering the events closely,
said.In Rehab City, a wealthy gated community in New Cairo,
masked thugs broke through a civilian barricade in a truck and were
caught by a neighborhood watch that has been guarding the city this
evening."Even though we caught the ones we saw, now that they're
in, we know that more will be coming and we're all running to protect
our families and houses," said Karim el-Dib, one of the men guarding the
community.
Meanwhile, protestors caught two police informants attempting to rob a bank in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria.Ayman
Nour, opposition leader and head of the Ghad Party, told Al-Masry
Al-Youm that his fellow party members have caught several thugs who work
forthe Interior Ministry. After capturing them in downtown Cairo and
Heliopolis, Nour's followers found ministry of interior IDs on them,
Nour said.“The regime is trying to project the worst image
possible to make it clear to people that they have only one of two
alternatives: either the existing order or chaos,” he said.Scores
of looting incidents have been reported since yesterday. Many
residential neighborhoods have been attacked by thugs and ex-convicts,
despite military presence.
Bikyamasr reports:
Eyewitnesses
reported that one plain clothed man attempted to loot and destroy
private property, and when confronted he was shot. Bystanders then took
his identification out and revealed that he was a police officer,
leaving a number of demonstrators to argue that the government has told
police to instigate looting and unrest.
And American intelligence service Stratfor provides the following unconfirmed report today:
Security
forces in plainclothes are engaged in destroying public property in
order to give the impression that many protesters represent a public
menace.
As I noted in 2008:
When agents provocateur commit violence or destroy property at peaceful protests, they are carrying out false flag terrorism.
Wikipedia defines false flag terror as follows:
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities.
The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors;
that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag
operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations,
and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy's strategy
of tension.If intelligence agencies or federal, state or local police themselves
commit acts of violence against people or property, and then blame it
on peaceful protesters, that is - by definition - false flag terror.***
Read this
to see how eagerly the mainstream media are to pin acts of violence on
peaceful protesters, instead of the thugs who actually committed them.And if you don't know about agents provocateur, read this statement about Burma:
"They’ve
ordered some soldiers in the military to shave their heads, so that
they could pose as monks, and then those fake monks would attack
soldiers to incite a military crackdown. The regime has done this before
in Burma, and we believe they would do so again."And see this news from Canada, and this Wikipedia discussion.
And as I pointed out last year:
- United Press International reported in June 2005:
U.S.
intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in
Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem
to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to
have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a
production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack
of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for
intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government
backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either
Mossad or the CIA. Analysts
speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons
even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as
evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.
- Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers
- At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence
Similarly, an Indonesian fact-finding team investigated violent riots which occurred in 1998, and determined that "elements of the military had been involved in the riots, some of which were deliberately provoked".
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I've heard the same thing from my Egyptian friends, who have contacted their family members back home. The locals in each town have banded together to prevent this from happening, such as searching every car that comes into the area.
Yes our government and most other sophisticated governments find false flag events handy. The feds resisted declassifying information regarding a regime change in columbia right around the time of panamas independence and our troops involvement. They claimed military secrets. The only military secret greater than 100 years old that would be worth preserving to use for another day are false flag events.
I'm surprised they don't work for a US agency... If you look to the CIA's history, this should be something right in their alley.
Never the less, the mainstream media will only pick up on the looter part and give armed forced the right to "restore order and save the people" with every means necessary...
WASHINGTON | Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:19am EST
Reuters) - Egyptian opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei said on Sunday that President Hosni Mubarak must leave office today to make way for a national unity government.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/30/us-egypt-usa-elbaradei-idUSTRE...
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Muslim Brotherhood moves to form Mubarak-less Egypt unity gov'thttp://www.haaretz.com/news/international/muslim-brotherhood-moves-to-fo...
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Muslim Brotherhood
official English language Website
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/
Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ikhwanwebcom-The-Official-English-website-...
Twitter account
http://twitter.com/ikhwanweb
IkhwanWebTube Muslim Brotherhood video site
http://www.ikhwanwebtube.com/
Ikhwan BOOK Muslim Brotherhood Social Networking Site
http://www.ikhwanbook.com/
(lots of stuff on their site about why Hamas is okay and why Qaeda is not okay
Security Forces have Guns... then the people should have guns... ='s dead security + Government Forces... ='s the people not being robbed blind..
Here and there!
Fuck the Fed!
Free Egypt!
Free America!
+ 1000 JW
This guy has to be drug out on his elbow and stoned-the status quo has to be pissing themselves.
The great thing about America is that a vote will get you farther than a gun!
NBC had a long interview with a jounalist who claimed there were already organized well meaning democratic based political parties in Egypt that would capture at least 50% of vote today. So there is no polictial void if the Govt falls. He is talking about various groups affiliated with the Musclim (?) Brotherhood. The so called jounalist was employed "code pink" (Soros man).
Its a 3 part dance. First revolution and overthrow of the pro west Govt.
Second,democratic election of weak, well meaning liberal touchy feely Govt is elected promising a liberal heaven. This group is quickly undercut by ruthless dictorial groups who carry out terriorist acts.
Third, the ruthless dictator takes over control and sends the code pink jounalists to their death. Example, Stalin, Hitler, Cuba, Venzewla, Iran, Somonia, Tusnisa, Algeria, and now Epypt.
The playbook is well known and yet the media supports it based on the hope for a loving change for the children. The children end up being slaves to the worse of the worse.
Isn't there a Super Bowl to distract us today.. Oh yeah... too bad... next week....
"Is the Egyptian Government Using Agents Provocateur to Justify a Crack Down"my fiancee uses their lingerie, you've got me worried now!
well if i was Mubarak i would probably do the same thing. Its all or nothing now. Ive witnessed those egyptian thug cops first hand, these allegations are more than likely true.
Rehab City....isn't that where Charlie Sheen lives?
GW of course they are, if they use them at G20 meetings ...
MY question relates to the overarching theme of the miltary being positioned as the good guys by AlJazz along with ElBaradei being positioned as leader in waiting.
the Muslim Brotherhood supports him, AlJazz supports him
http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE70T0B020110130
This tactic can have unexpected results if the false-flag sponsors are unable to contain the conflagration they have contributed to.
Seems we have a really bad history of being able to control "blowback."
It's official. Anything bad happens can be completely and totally blamed on government. They'll never get the benefit of the doubt again.
And this is new?