The Elites Have Lost The Right to Rule

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Fri, 08/27/2010 - 13:28 | 548602 trav7777
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You voted for obama, bitch

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 13:38 | 548630 SRV - ES339
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Which means he didn't vote for McCain / Palin... can't blame him for that!

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 13:43 | 548639 Turd Ferguson
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No shit.

February 10, 2008. The day the Turd quit the Republican Party and became "unaffiliated".

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 13:56 | 548671 Careless Whisper
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ladeez and gentlemen. (r) and (d) are both the same. wake up. they both work for the banksters, not the people. with the exception of the honorable ron paul.

want to see gov out of control? welcome to the suburbs of new york city, where a local poleece chief makes $301,534 per year for fighting "crime", which really means giving out tickets for those that can't drive 55 on the highway. but that's a bargain of a salary for the good taxpayers because last year a neighboring small town poleece chief made $550,000.

i have no idea why they think they are worth 4x the salary of an f.b.i. agent.

you can't make this shit up.

http://www.lohud.com/article/20108270359

 

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 14:11 | 548724 Caviar Emptor
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We only got the silly party and the very silly party now.

Gold bitchez!

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 15:03 | 548828 Marla And Me
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Oh, it has the potential to get plenty sillier still.  Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce Charlie Rangel's last contribution to a stellar carreer </s>:  H.R. 5741, aka the "Universal National Service Act "

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.5741.IH:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h5741/show

Rangel submitted this bill to committee on July 15, 2010.  The act's purpose is "[t]o require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes."  This required national service will last two years. 

Thank you Charlie for all your hard work.  Future generations will stand in awe of your sacrifice for the public good... 

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 15:23 | 548930 Cathartes Aura
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National service is the usual term for compulsory military service programmes in countries including Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Guyana, Israel, Iran, Malaysia, Mexico, Norway, the Republic of China (Taiwan), Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey. Conscription in the United States was called Selective Service and continued until 1973. Most NATO countries discontinued obligatory military service in the 1970s. Israel was the only country to conscript young women as well as young men for military service in the late 20th century.

well done Charlie. . . good luck with those "ethics violations". . .

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 15:44 | 548998 Marla And Me
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Somehow, those things have a way of going away when one plays the good soldier...  I expect Rangel to now retire without a blemish on his record...

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 02:13 | 549949 jeff montanye
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seriously, building on the schumpeter quote above about changing elites, doesn't it seem as if the most likely chance of getting some of the reforms required to transition to a more sustainable nation and world involve the policies associated with ron paul and, really, very few others at the national level?  these include an end to the wars in asia, the too big to fail, and the ersatz wars on drugs and terrorism; fiscal sustainability; a transparent and competent monetary system; a vast reduction in the military industrial complex; and a return of civil and economic liberties.  this paradigm would seem to offer the least destructive and most likely to succeed path to a better future.  so who's his v.p. (because he may well not complete a term if elected)?

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:05 | 550131 ISEEIT
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+1000000 (seems to be a common accolade at ZH). I am directly responsible for the survival and well being of six beautiful individuals, and many more who I would hope to be useful for if required. I appreciate your post- collapse considerations, but to be frank, I am far more unsettled by the reality that appears far too likely to precede the establishment of any new structure.

Scares the shit out of me only because of the potential harm to the people I love most. I would be fine in a tent for a while, what I really fear is a violent attempt to cling to power by the old guard, and more specifically by those who they incite to act for them.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:18 | 550145 kathy.chamberli...
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harm to the people I love most. I would be fine in a tent for a while,

how ya going be fine in a tent with 6 beautiful people? need a big tent, especially if they are females, which i am sure they all are. how do you take the time and write on a blog, with all these people needing you?

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 11:03 | 550205 ISEEIT
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I don't sleep much. And yes, my wife and the other beautiful people include an extraordinary two year old Granddaughter, three really like able sons and a really lovable person who is the Mother of my Granddaughter.

It's my reality and I love it.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 11:45 | 550245 Spalding_Smailes
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No need to answer Kathy she is a drunk ....

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 12:18 | 550283 kathy.chamberli...
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i just don't hold my liquor well. i always, pretty much always have a bed really really close by when i drink alcohol.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 23:27 | 550867 THE 4th Quadrant
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I hope you have one of those hospital Overbed Tables that you keep your computer on so you can keep the lolz going while incapacitated.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 12:14 | 550275 kathy.chamberli...
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i am so glad you likke to share sooooooo much about your personal love life and people. well i am happy for you, now goooooooo away,.

i have to go get my delete button fixed.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 20:02 | 550726 ISEEIT
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So sorry bitch, I've got a problem with booze to. That's the problem.

Oh my God! Not me?

Give it a rest.

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 16:46 | 550866 kathy.chamberli...
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go away.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 16:47 | 550881 kathy.chamberli...
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   bye bye

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:21 | 550150 nhsadika
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$1 trillion in personal taxes collected / year - $ 1trillion military/security/war state = $0

Everything else is running on fumes (of ink jet printers).

 

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 09:10 | 550095 ISEEIT
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Just the site of Marla's name drew me to respond. Love your post too.

:)

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 17:02 | 550279 kathy.chamberli...
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your amazing

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 16:45 | 549127 Hephasteus
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First Name Fuck

Middle Name Your

Last Name War

All signed up.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 22:42 | 549761 Bananamerican
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3 junks?

I dunno, i rather like this post

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 22:52 | 549772 kathy.chamberli...
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me 2

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 18:02 | 550642 Nostradumbass
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Me too.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 17:32 | 549233 Coast Watcher
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Rangel has put this in four or five times now, going back into the Bush II days when he did it to embarrass Bush over the war and what Rangel calls the unequal racial mix of the combat forces. It never gets out of committee, doesn't even get a cosponsor most times. The strange thing is that he put it in again during Obama's presidency. The bill went in before the ethics blow-up. Interesting.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 18:08 | 549308 Marla And Me
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Thanks for the heads up Coast Watcher.  The problem that I have with this bill is that both parties have been using this language and pushing for some kind of mandatory civil service for the country for quite some time now.  Both Obama and McCain brought this kind of language up in their campaigns.  Given the language of the bill, and the fact that they seem to enjoy ramming through huge bill through Congress without reading them, I'm not inclined to trust our elected officials too much these days.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 19:31 | 549463 Geoff-UK
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Democrat:  a man who wants to drive us to Socialism at 95 mph.

Republican:  a man who feels very strongly we should keep the speedometer at 55.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 21:26 | 549615 Al Gorerhythm
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No, they're folk who want you to believe that the speedo' is registering 55, whilst traveling at the same speed as the Dems.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 22:47 | 549767 Bananamerican
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no, Republicans want you to WEAR a speedo while they DO you!

Democrats want to GIVE you a FREE speedo.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 16:32 | 550554 DosZap
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No,they give you one, and tell you not to wear it,tell you Ben Dover, and we will load you up!.

The Dems are really the Fudgepacker Party.(Broke Baaaack Mountain Party).

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 18:05 | 550643 Unscarred
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That is goddamn funny!

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:55 | 550195 ISEEIT
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Not inclined eh? WTF?

You ought to be so utterly creeped out that your soul cringes and you immediately recoil in disgust.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 20:40 | 549551 wake the roach
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Citizen corps, Americorps, Senior corps yada yada yada... Yep, that is the future of "employment" and in time will become completely voluntary... What else are we going to do with our time when 90% plus of todays resource waste employment soon becomes history and the rest of our labor is largly replaced by technology... Welcome to what Marx correctly envisioned as pure communism...

Like it or not, capitalism is dead (as a means to produce monetary profit via labor by increasing energy consumption)...Tomorrows economic medium of energy exchange will be through credits (initially labelled rations) that are distributed freely and equally leaving every individual to pursue there own self interest which in a large part means voluntary service to others...

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"...

Collectivist hell or the painful beginning of a future of unlimited global wealth and human potential?... Who the fuck knows but you are welcome to quote me on this 5 years or so from now... Welcome to Obamas vision ;-)

 

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:43 | 550173 tmosley
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Where do you think this magic technology is ging to come from that will produce everything that people need?  Who do you think is going to allocate the fruits of their production?  Who is going to maintain them.  People don't do any of this for free.  If you think they will, then you are welcome to join your Komrads in North Korea.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 14:34 | 551564 Hulk
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Never, ever, question magic technology tmosley, its all the hopium we have left...

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 21:09 | 549602 OldTrooper
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Let's see what the Constitution says about mandatory national service:

Amendment 13
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime
whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United
States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate
legislation.

Thanks, but I think me and mine will skip national service.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 22:08 | 549695 wake the roach
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Haha yeah, I'm sure that most of the worlds middle/upper class share your feelings today but that will change when the supermarket shelves are empty...

Remember that you are vastly outnumbered by the great disillusioned... The worlds population that capitalisms wealth and freedom forgot...

Do not underestimate the power of the social force that will be created when the worlds disillusioned are given economic freedom from the profit/labor system... Then provided with the tools and entrusted with the responsibility of becoming a valued contributer to the common wealth... Just sayin, think about it...

 

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

 

Henry Kissinger...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 08:05 | 550065 Bendromeda Strain
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Politicians are such small minded plagiarists. Some cat named John said it much better a couple thousand years ago from his "writer's retreat" at the island of Patmos.

 

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:47 | 550184 tmosley
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You can only "free" the people from the profit/labor system at the point of a gun.  You have to continue pointing the gun at them forever.  Eventually, the gun will get heavy, and hte workers will get lazy.  Nothing will get done, and all will starve together.  That is the fruit of your demented ideology.

People doing what is best for themselves, while not intruding on the natural rights of others is what leads to an increase in societal capital.  NOTHING ELSE.  Every time some fat-fingered government, or some mind-expanded hippy has tried, it has ended in disaster, or at best, a reversion to primative tribalism.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 12:53 | 550319 Gwynplaine (not verified)
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wake - after the supermarket shelves are empty, it's every man for himself. 

No doubt the next plan is for a command economy, but that just creates a zombie state (still standing but dead).  Soviet Russia lasted about 75 years. Castro's Cuba is pushing 60 right now.  Yep, we can sqeeze a few more generations out of this turnip going that route - pity anyone who will be alive in 2080 though.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 01:16 | 550922 Ultranaut
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You forgot China. I guess they don't really fit with your argument though. I do think the rise of China has provided a new model the capitalist elites of the world find inspiring....

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 16:33 | 550558 DosZap
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Old,
Yep,getting real close to Amending their Constitutions.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 02:00 | 549943 Whats that smell
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The reasoning is if a rich kid has to go to war there will not be as many "wars of choice" At least the kids dad will have to bribe a congressman to  get the child a soft job, Or the youth could do the Ted Nugent thing in boot camp. Rangel is a small time looter, what about all the white collar republican criminals?

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 10:27 | 550159 grunion
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They are doing fine, right along with the misguided, out-of-touch democrat criminals.

Sat, 08/28/2010 - 13:17 | 550344 New_Meat
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What's that?

This "rich kid" myth has been debunked so many times.  Mac Owens has kept up with and re-confirmed, e.g.:

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/owens/02/combat.html

Seems that the "dark green" types stay longer in Combat Service Support jobs, "light green" types going for the adventure in combat arms.  All of that is statistical, nothing to suggest that has any individual bearing.  Brother Roscoe would rip out my ... er ... tongue otherwise.

Rangel is just angling for the draft so the young crowd can experience tear gas up close and personal; then have something to tell their grandkids about.

- Ned

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 00:32 | 550905 IQ 145
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 "He wants Gold to be much lower"; people in Hell want ice water, or so they tell me.

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 14:11 | 548725 Alexandre Stavisky
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Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Fri, 08/27/2010 - 17:50 | 549266 Arkadaba
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