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Emergency Jobless Insurance Claims Surge By Most Ever In Prior Week

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The number you won't hear mentioned anywhere in the Mainstream Media: 327,729. That is how many people shifted to Emergency Unemployment Compensation programs in the last week alone, hitting an all time record high of 4.2 million! So as everyone is focused on the benign picture of initial claims in the last week which was "only" 474,000, the number of people rolling off continuing benefits has exploded and is now a stunning 592,579 only in the last two week. Look for this number to keep going into the stratosphere as the 6 month continuing claims cliff keeps getting hit by more and more people who are unemployed and keep looking not only for believable change, but actual jobs to go with it.

And here is the chart that the administration would love to keep under lock and seal: the cumulative number of people on Emergency Insurance. At this rate those collecting EUC will surpass those on continuing claims (5.5 million) within a month.


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Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:26 | 158847 Gimp
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I am sure the spinmasters are going to have to pull out every trick in the book to make this go away and/or look good.

Ministry of Propaganda do your magic! 

Kudlow where are you??  Spin baby spin.


Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:08 | 158984 ATG
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Even K getting bearish.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:16 | 159157 Anonymous
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Where are the stories about tent cities?
Oh, forgot. A "D" is running the Presidency now.
It is astonishing how few human suffering stories are printed these days.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 15:16 | 159275 carbonmutant
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Actually the current strategy is selective reporting of events on one hand and marginalize those that do report on the other.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 16:00 | 159312 carbonmutant
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Fri, 12/11/2009 - 04:47 | 159884 Spartacus
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Two questions which I am sure Tyler will be able to answer.This may be unrelated. BUT, I was wondering if someone give me a break-up off the profit that Goldman makes. Like , profits from trading and profit from investment banking, profit from stealing government money etc.

Well, billions of dollars as bonuses when millions of Americans have lost their shirts.

Well, frankly, the careless American lowerclass deserves this treatment. Look at the leaders you have chosen and the way they have been scandalised by the Banksters.Wuh!. Unbelievable. The bastards have the balls to give the money as bonus. the least they could have done is declared a good dividend. I am sure, there is a lot that has been hidden from the pubic.

MY 2nd QUESTION "Why the Government Of US of A so afraid of Goldman Sachs".

Any explanantion other than Fed being the private bank created by the crooks etc would do.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:27 | 158848 Anonymous
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Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:07 | 158909 Anonymous
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A great big ditto.

Well done, ZH. Well done indeed.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:27 | 158849 Anonymous
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So, if I understand the math here, there are a total of 9.7 million people either on the unemployment or extended unemployment lines? Is this it? WOW

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 16:54 | 159402 Anonymous
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And of course these numbers don't include people like me. I quit my job 22 months ago after selling my business. Since I resigned I do not get unemployment coverage of any kind. None of these statistics (to my knowledge) cover this situation. I'm not sure how many people actually resign anymore (mine was a unique situation where I did not agree with the ethics (or lack thereof) of the new owner), but I don't believe we are ever counted as unemployed. Perhaps statistically insignificant.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:28 | 158851 bs
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For how long can you stay in the Extended Benefits program, and what's the next step after you no longer qualify for this?



Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:32 | 158862 pbmatthews
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For how long can you stay in the Extended Benefits program, and what's the next step after you no longer qualify for this?


Answer: You get a job for Americorps and a interest free home loan from Freddie or Fannie.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:37 | 158867 bs
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As much as I like your response, I'm still searching for reply giving me the answer. Not an American (your President caused be to be late for work today), so this is not common knowledge to me.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:58 | 158895 palper
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Depending on what state you live in it can go up to 99 weeks the last I heard. That includes using all the state benefits and all the federal ones. I believe they have extended the federal ones 3 times already.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:19 | 158926 asdf
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ok, and what happens then? Let's say you're 55 and have been laid off as a whatsoever from General Motors. You just can't find a job even after 2 years. Is there something like a basic social net that provides you with food and a home or do you have to move under a bridge?


(I'm also from europe)

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:26 | 158938 docj
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Contrary to Eurpoean folklore, we actually have a pretty comprehensive welfare/relief system in the US.  By-and-large, unless you're too mentally unstable to have enough sense to find your nearest government center (recognizing that to do so may require, maybe, a short bus ride) your chances of ending up "under a bridge" are, in reality, pretty small.

Do a quick look-up of "food-stamps", "WIC", "AFDC" and the like and you'll start to get the idea.

Then, there's always the "cash economy" - lots of people working in that one, and those ranks are only going to grow in the near term.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:41 | 158949 The Rock
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unfortunately i know a lot of people who abuse the system in this "cash economy".  it's not just the poor but the wealthy who are not reporting all their earnings...

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:48 | 158957 docj
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As do I - also on both ends of the spectrum.  In fact, more on the upper than the lower, truth be told (as they tend to have skills that can be marketed to people "under the table").

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:04 | 158978 asdf
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ok, thanks for the answer. I still haven't found the program that would pay my 55 year old unemployed worker his home, but I'll just believe you that it exists and noone has to end up under a bridge.

At first view, your welfare system seems even more complicated than ours because there are so many different programs.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:04 | 158903 Anonymous
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SOME HELP BUT NOT MUCH. I think you have to ask your state Unemployment (or whatever they call it) Agency, because, regardless of what the USA does, your State (legislature) has to pass a law enabling it. Evidence toward that is the fact that your checks come from the State, not from the USA. I think some states started off with 9 months "regular" unemployment, and then added 3 or 4 months extra. I am wondering whether they will add even more; I think that depends on whether the USA gives them more. Sorry I don't have more information. I usually get the best information by personally going down to the government office in question and asking secretaries until I find out; there are always some secretaries who know exactly what is going on.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:49 | 158877 Anonymous
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A friend of mine just tried to get into Americorps and couldn't. She is in the Master's program with me at one of the more prestigious schools in Boston. Made my heart sink a bit about the unemployment picture. Things certainly haven't been going well for my wife and I -- the massive amount I borrowed isn't cutting it, and wife is barely holding on two a low wage job. We are both recent college grads.

pbmathews - that last post came off sounding more than a little privileged. I appreciate the insights on ZH, but for my third post in a row, I have to wonder if the wealthy people whining about losing money in the market are worth caring about..(many, not all) do not seem to have the perspective of those who are dealing with tough times.

You want to use the unemployed and sinking as pawns for your ideological game, fine. But how does that make you better than the fraudsters you complain about? Makes me want you to go down, too. I might just take yours while you are lying on the ground..

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:58 | 158894 Anonymous
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> Master's program with me at one of the
> more prestigious schools in Boston.

> holding on two a low wage job. We are
> both recent college grads.

this made me laugh

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:49 | 159235 Anonymous
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Yeah, no privilege there.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:11 | 158916 Mr. Anonymous
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Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:25 | 158937 Anonymous
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LoL, another kid who believed the bumper sticker "Prosperity is my birthright".

I question your use of the word "two", Mr Highly Educated.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:43 | 158950 Anonymous
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Attacking style rather than substance...

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:17 | 158992 nonclaim
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I don't want to sound offensive but ignorance of basic language skills is not style much less substance. That defense coming from someone claiming higher education is hypocritical at best (on top of the demonstrated ignorance). Be quiet and humble and use the free time to learn something useful.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:37 | 159104 Unscarred
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Man, crazy to see these unemployment figures, huh?...

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:24 | 159181 Anonymous
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Wow... way to chime in with such insight.
Surely you have better things to do than post crap like that.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 16:56 | 159408 Anonymous
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I believe his avatar would explain the comment, you young whippersnapper

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:54 | 158965 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Thats not really fair guys, but I agree that many college degrees are worthless. What the frak does anyone "do" with a liberal arts degree these days?!? LOL


My advice is quite simple, you need to DO something. Sell crap you do not need on Ebay or craigslist, dumpster dive and sell on CL, use actual hands on skills (if you have any) etc.

ZHers don't have a lot of respect for hand-wringers here.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:01 | 158975 docj
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Spot on - lots of early 20-somethings out there who spent first-rate money (and accumulated the requisite debt) to attend a second-rate college to get a third-rate degree.

Look for "Cash for Sheepskin" proposal out of the Administration or CONgress before too long.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:40 | 159026 Anonymous
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you need to DO something...

For starters realize the fallacies of the conceptual framework: Debt.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:55 | 158966 Anonymous
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It's only going to get worse for you when Obama holds the proverbial gun at your head and makes you buy overpriced 'health insurance'. You and your wife fall precisely into the demographic of the people who will be the most egregiously fucked by the new 'free healthcare' legislation. You'll be able to afford something, in their judgement, and thus you and your wife will have 10-20% of your disposable income hijacked in the name 'universal healthcare'...which is code for free inner city health clinics.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:10 | 158987 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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" But how does that make you better than the fraudsters you complain about? Makes me want you to go down, too. I might just take yours while you are lying on the ground.."


Nevermind any suggestions from me. Clearly the "degree" has not increased your IQ. I seriously doubt you'll be taking anything from pbm, since you'll sink way before he ever does.

You want to do something? Go help yourself. Sell stuff. Your poor wife is supporting you all by herself? dude, you need to re-think your life.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:49 | 159115 Unscarred
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Your poor wife is supporting you all by herself? dude, you need to re-think your life.

Nah, bro.  Dude is playing it just like he should be playing it.  If his wife is gonna take half in another 5 or 10 years down the road, she might as well put up the initial investment.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 17:57 | 159460 Ripped Chunk
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Thu, 12/10/2009 - 17:31 | 159454 Ripped Chunk
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This is pretty hilarious.  Talk about asking for it.

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 03:37 | 159872 Anonymous
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Wait a second...i thought companies in US are HIRING!!!my friends are getting ready with H1-B stamped passports ready to fly...even your US MNCs are hiring like crazy here...

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:02 | 158897 Miyagi_san
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Move to India, They need phone tec's that speak english 

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:08 | 158912 Screwball
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No shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't think we talk to anyone in America anymore.  Make me want to puke.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:18 | 158930 sondog
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I don't get this attitude. Do you think people aspire to doing telemarketing or phone support? I just wonder if it really is so bad for the economy? You know what America does well? Selling Americanism. Clothes, music, movies, celebrities, inventions (cars, planes, ipods, tvs)...


I could be wrong, just thinking aloud.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:24 | 158935 Screwball
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Right now I think many Americans aspire to do anything, even working on a support desk.  Things are tough out here and some of us are sick and tired of seeing our jobs shipped to low cost countries.

I worked for a forture 100 company and watched all the manufacuting jobs go away in the 90s due to NAFTA.  I lost my job because of it.  I went back to school and re-tooled my skills only to watch my white collar job go to India to the guys I had to train to begin with.  Now that job is gone.

I would gladly sit on a support desk and speak American to anyone that called in.  Anyone hiring, and right now I'm pretty cheap.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:55 | 158967 sondog
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Hmm fair enough. I'm not in the US so I appreciate others insight from within. I guess one of the best industires that can't really be outsourced, doesn't require being priviledged, and isn't "menial" would be... real estate. Uh oh!

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:44 | 158952 trav777
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Well...the executive class has only grown.  They want THEIR children to have the few good jobs.  And go to the good schools.

What is the only sector of income that is going up?  Executive class income.  Rank and file is down.  And this generates corporate profits for which executives get bonused.  A reinforcing trend.

IOW, the entire system is built to LOCK YOU AND YOURS THE FUCK OUT.

In other countries, children of sufficient aptitude get to go to top schools.  If you perform poorly on the tests, you go elsewhere.  Yale and Harvard and Princeton have sufficient freshman class sizes to accept EVERY single National Merit Scholar (top 1/2 of 1%) between them, yet a Merit Scholarship plus $.50 will get you a dialtone these days.  The top schools are congested with the mediocre children of the legacy elites and those with connections to them.

President's daughter?  Stanford.  Really smart kid, nice scores good luck with everything.

They are forming a landed aristocracy right before our very eyes.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:58 | 158970 Screwball
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Well...the executive class has only grown.

The last company I worked for had one VP for every 10 employees.  Many of which we had no idea what they did, other than make a shitload of money.  The company was so top heavy it was ridiculous. Then they carped at us all day to save on fucking pens, pencils, and paper clips.  Then told us no raise, no bonus, but you need to put out more work cause we laid of 10 more people.

Me thinks we have way too many executives and not near enough worker bees. And don't get me started on how many of these executives were dumber than a turd.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:09 | 159069 Anonymous
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This reminds me of a joke I heard back in graduate school. Where I went to school, we actually had some industrial capacity left to make this joke relevant. So here goes...

A Japanese firm and an American firm decide on having a boat race. The Japanese show up with one manager and 6 workers as rowers for their boat. The Americans show up with 6 managers and one worker rower for theirs. Understandably the Americans lose the race. So, what do they do? They challenge the Japanese to another race the following day. This time the Japanese show back up with the one manager and six worker bees to row the boat. However, the Americans have wised up. They show up with a single manager, a single worker, and five management consultants for their team. The Americans lose yet again. What do they do then? Why fire the worker, of course.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:54 | 159239 Screwball
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That's pretty much how it works.  The last place I worked, a manager had an average of 7 workers under hiim. Ours got promoted and we went 4 months and never missed him.  Of course he was replaced with another clueless ladder climbing sleuth, with no more of a clue than the guy who mowed the yard.

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 10:32 | 160002 Anonymous
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I really do think you owe a hearty apology for your comments about turds. I've never met a turd that doesn't have more integrity then a bankster.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:12 | 158990 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Son--its pretty bad, IMO. Have you read about the tent cities popping up all over the USA? That 1 in 8 are on foodstamps (Mish).


Yep--we're getting there.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:29 | 158852 LoneStarHog
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No problem, as the unemployed and destitute still have a vote to ensure that the Messiah and his Congressional Critters will be reelected next November.

I might suggest to the Federal Elections Commission that they open new Polling Places under America's bridges, as people might find it difficult to make the trip to more remote locations.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:18 | 158929 Mr. Anonymous
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Hardee har har . . .

Not.  O's poll numbers are off and there'll be a big change in the House (See: 2006 electoral tsunami).  Will it result in POLICY change? Probably not, since the American political system is utterly rancid. But possibly as,  if the evil Republicans can gain some inroads against the evil Democrats, they may be able to complicate matters for the evil Obama doing his bidding for the awesomely Evil Banksters.  That would be some progress, at least.

BTW, you forgot to invoke Acorn in your little riff.  See if you can work some CardCheck into the next one, too.

Hardee har har.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:14 | 158997 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Hard to say Lonestar, a lot of the same folks are gonna get real nasty, real desperate, real soon. I agree with Celente when he says we'll see a big rise in crime.


If Obama won't give it to them, they will take it.




Thu, 12/10/2009 - 17:09 | 159423 WaterWings
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That's when angry customers, realizing they weren't getting free coats, began throwing merchandise on the floor and grabbing clothes without paying for them, Nace said.

"Everybody was like, 'I still want my free stuff,' and that started the riot," he said. "It looks like (Hurricane) Katrina went through the store."

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:29 | 158853 Anonymous
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These are the real numbers that should be focused on. Thanks Ty.

I heard last week the African Americans males between 18 and 32 have a 49% unemployment rate. How could that be verified?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:36 | 158864 pbmatthews
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Not sure about thee 18 to 32 age figure but it is true for All African Americans regardless of sex between 16 to 18...well actually its only 48.4%, but who is counting?

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 06:32 | 159906 Spartacus
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I have a suggestion. The 18 to 32 folks SHOULD keep themselves busy by INTERACTING amongst themselves. More the better.


THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY OUT,only one way. Close down the fucking banks. The hydra headed monsters.It is a zero-sum game. All the money the bastards make in the market makes YOU ALL poorer by the same amount. Think and act fast.

Because, they don't do anything productive to generate that money,you see. Use your brain.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:29 | 158854 Careless Whisper
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How can businesses grow or even start when taxes are too high, and more important, banks aren't loaning money to businesses or individuals? What good are these banks if they won't make loans? I'm getting tired of people blaming the small banks for this problem -- that's bullshit. The policies coming out of Washington are totally misguided.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:15 | 159000 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I can tell you no way, no how and my hiring anyone anytime soon with Obama and his minions causing all the lawlessness and uncertainty they are. 

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:31 | 159013 WaterWings
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Exactly. Small banks don't get bailouts. Their assets get gobbled up playing rigged musical chairs. This isn't capitalism, it's monopolistic consolidation.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 18:08 | 159507 Ripped Chunk
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Well, actually a few small banks got bailouts.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:29 | 158855 Anonymous
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And a very strange ramp up in the Dow and S&P in the 20 minutes or so before the figures came out.

Goldmans buying the "rumour" and then selling the fact?


Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:30 | 158856 Anonymous
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Betty on Bloomberg has already announced the numbers as a drop in initial claims, repeated it twice, corrected it, then repeated it again.

I'm confused. This is good news right Betty? Just tell me it's good news so I can go buy some of those tempting bank stocks you keep pointing me to.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:30 | 158857 pbmatthews
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Actually, the spinsters are waiting for the period when people have been unemployed so long that they have maxed out their initial unemployment benefits as well as all three extensions.

Then they will start to claim that this number too is falling---a result of the anointed one's brilliant economic policy and stewardship of the American economy.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:39 | 158870 Shameful
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That was pretty much my thought.  They would use the fact that most people don't know what comprises U3 to boondoggle the number into a "lower" unemployment figure.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:30 | 158858 Anonymous
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So, eventually can't Obama just claim that all those on EUC (since the gov't is basically giving them a paycheck) are newly created jobs... poof. Joblessness solved. Should see that unemployment rate drop to 5% in no time. Just a matter of perspective, right? And considering the absolute Orwellian nature of this presidency, this would seem like an obvious next move.

To get past the uncomfortable question of, "Well, why don't these people have 'real' jobs?" Obama could just demand that all those on the dole have to immediately report to a volunteer station - based on a list created by one of his czars (likely honorable non-profits to include ACORN) - and to begin their mandatory public service "job."

Why it's a thing of beauty - the potential for a new socialist empire out of the ashes of a once great nation we used to call the Unites States of America.

What kind of stories will I be telling my grandkids one day about the place I grew up in...

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:42 | 158871 pbmatthews
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Good point...our President, Mr. Barry Soetoro has always claimed his economic policies would create or save millions of jobs.  Maybe you are correct that this is what he meant.

By the way, I think we collectively should call Barack the name he used in high school and probably used to get into college....Barry Soetoro.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:03 | 158977 ATG
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you mean BS?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:31 | 158860 Anonymous
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This is Depression Era time. How does this level of emergency extended claims compare to 1981-1982?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:36 | 158865 Cognitive Dissonance
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"327,729. That is how many people shifted to Emergency Unemployment Compensation programs in the last week alone, hitting an all time record high of 4.2 million! "

Rick Santeli on CNBC was just calling out these numbers, reading from a list (on live TV) the huge disparity between the adjusted and unadjusted numbers. He ended with the increased number of people moving to Emergency Unemployment Compensation.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:36 | 158866 Gimp
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Gerald Celente's predicitions may come true after all.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 15:09 | 159266 Sqworl
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Jim Cramer + Eckhardt Tolle = Gerald Celente :)

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:44 | 158874 Dr Horace Manure
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And now we get another $1.8 trillion in debt.

Who makes printing presses?  That's where we need to invest.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:49 | 158879 SWRichmond
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The amount was no doubt chosen as being just enough to get past the mid-term elections, so there's your projection for FY '10 deficit.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:54 | 158889 trillion_dollar...
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Cut them some slack man. Spending fiat money is hard. That figure is only twice as high as they were anticipating back in the Spring.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:17 | 159003 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I think of Brewsters Millions whenever I hear about this stuff, except I see a bunch of Congressional and state, local idiots spending as fast as they can.


What a joke.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:33 | 159016 WaterWings
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Haha! I thought of Brewster's too. It's so hard to spend all this moneeeeeey.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:12 | 158919 Master Bates
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They don't actually PRINT the money.  They just click and clack a few zeroes out on the keyboard and add it to your bank account.  Well, not YOUR bank account, but the bank accounts at Goldman, JPM, and BAC

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:46 | 158875 Anonymous
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Sounds like alot of shifts were used to get our positive November number. First over estimate October unemployment, then push off some November numbers into December. Bingo, great numbers for the start of the shopping season. Can you feel the confidence building?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:49 | 158878 docj
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More great news for the bulls, of course.

Going long on torches, pitchforks and ammo is going to serve me well, methinks.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:50 | 158882 Anonymous
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it amazes me what a government can do together with the media. Nazi Germany was good, but the US in 2009 are just fantastic !!

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:29 | 158940 Mr. Anonymous
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You pulled a Godwin violation  AND a government/media conflation all in under 25 words?

Now THAT is impressive.

Congratulations!  You deserve a Glen Beck provocateur of the day award!

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:35 | 159203 faustian bargain
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Hm. 40 minutes after the post, and it only provoked you. Maybe you're reading the wrong blog.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 18:11 | 159508 Ripped Chunk
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Mr. A needs to pack in

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:54 | 158885 Anonymous
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Obama said he was going to undo sell-out Clinton's welfare reform - et voila! Now all we need is for EUC stipend to increase when a lady gets preggers.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:03 | 158899 Anonymous
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CD ... I just sent Santelli a thank you note for being honest and playing it straight with viewers. Hope he gets it.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:00 | 158972 Screwball
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We need more rants from Mr. Santelli.  Fuck the rest of those pump monkeys.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:17 | 159077 Anonymous
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I love Rick Santelli. You can tell he's totally disgusted with everything and he hates the constant spin and mistruths on MSM.

He almost got fired a while back for saying 'What protesters, I didn't see any' a direct jab at the MSM's complete lack of coverage of the huge tea party protest in Washington a few days earlier.

It is disgusting.

This country has become disgusting. The news is worthless.
They tell the common man nothing that has anything to do with his personal future. They misdirect the people completely.

The united states of America is a corporate entity, and the end result of this long run of truly Bad Management is going to be chapter 11 shortly.


Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:03 | 158900 SDRII
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Note that those on exftended benefits only reflect those states that are reporting (about 14 at present).

Down near the bottom of the Bloom article is this nugget:

"Workers in 50 of 53 states and territories are eligible to receive the government’s latest 13-week extension and not all are reporting the data yet. Seven additional states began reporting the figures, bringing the total to 14"

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:03 | 158901 ptoemmes
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/sarc on

So, eventually, when all that can lose their job have and more than six months has passed from that time the initial job claims will go to zero and all will be well.

/sarc off


Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:05 | 158905 Anonymous
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Another slightly important number, unadjusted initial claims for the week totaled 664,865. Just a tad bit higher than the headline 474,000 the msm are pushing. The same week 2008 was 759,531. More green shoots. I feel much better.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:06 | 158981 ATG
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Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:06 | 158908 Anonymous
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Media masterminds? this administration (axelrod, emmanuel, geitner, summers, bair, shapiro, information czar cass sumstein) stole the media playbook from Lenin, Trotzky, Marx,molotov.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:11 | 158917 Anonymous
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Bloomberg's headline was: "Average Jobless Claims in U.S. Over Past Four Weeks Drop to One-Year Low"

It wasn't until the 2nd paragraph of the story that they mentioned initial claims, and it wasn't till deep in the article that they mentioned extended claims.

Of course, I knew at once from the headline that the initial claims must have been ugly. Reading the financial press is getting to be like reading Pravda in the old USSR.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:12 | 158920 Anonymous
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A shame this is completely made up. Go on, Google the phrase "emergency jobless insurance." There are only five results, two of which are from this site. So what's your agenda behind posting this?

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 07:56 | 159926 Anonymous
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As you can see in the table, the proper term is EUC which stands for Emergency Unemployment Compensation. A quick introduction is at and you'll find plenty of hits on that phrase. It's unfortunate that the headline uses improper terminology, but that's no reason to presume an agenda when the site just highlighting figures you can easily confirm yourself.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:17 | 158925 Anonymous
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Wasn't Hussein on TV last week touting how the Economy and Job losses where stabilizing?

Tisk, Tisk, Tisk, those seasonal adjustments.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:21 | 158931 RSDallas
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This report shows an increase of 204,703 in the NSA number of 664,865.  Seems to be HUGE.  Is it right to interpret the 664,865 as a REAL number of job losses for the month?? 

If so, could this large number be a result of the bogus figures released last week, like maybe a CYA??  Will this number cause the SA number to increase in the next report????  Right or wrong?

Anyway, does this large increase in the NSA number have any significance to it?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:34 | 158944 GoldmanBaggins
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Most Americans are used to working. Being able to find a job when they need one. Even if it means relocating. Our families have become far flung over the last 20 years. Now with little local familial support for the millions of unemployed and underemployed family units will disintegrate. We will be left with very bitter, damaged individuals. This will cause the unrest that leviathan fears. It will be interesting and sad to see how this plays out.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:42 | 159222 Winisk
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Big picture viewpoint there.  It's the details such as this that make the unraveling so unnerving.  The social and psychological damage of this failed experiment in economic engineering have yet to fully manifest itself.  The disintegration of the family unit has been an unfortunate side effect of affluence.  It used to be families stayed together out of necessity.  Separation from family is difficult.  Divorce is brutal.  And this during the 'best of times'.  The emotional wreckage will likely accelerate in a prolonged downturn with the frayed nerves and social isolation that will ensue.  The social fabric has been stretched so thin that there is very little margin of error anymore.  Scary indeed.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:40 | 158948 Anonymous
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Check out the contradiction between Google Finance and Market Watch:

From Market Watch:

Dec. 10, 2009, 9:40 a.m. EST
Stocks up on signs of economic improvement

By Kate Gibson
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stocks started higher on Thursday after the count of those filing for initial jobless benefits during the past four weeks declined

From Google Finance:

Unemployment claims jump unexpectedly
Initial filings for jobless benefits climb by 17,000 to 474,000, higher than forecast.
By Hibah Yousuf, staff reporter
Last Updated: December 10, 2009: 9:42 AM ET

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:49 | 158951 B9K9
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You won't hear about this in the MSM because the continued existence of both the government & media are irrevocably wed to fractional reserve banking. Another bubble simply must be blown if for nothing more than temporary hiring of the unemployed.

To those who might think this is something unique to our current times & predictament, wrong; it is as old as the ages. In fact, some attribute the seeds of the French revolution to being sown by John Law, and our own fight for independence indirectly linked to those events and others more directly resulting from the actions of London bankers.

Since ZH is such an excellent platform for intelligent & knowledgeable voices, there are two documents that represent absolutley essential reading for those who wish to really understand what is presently occurring.

And, btw, these aren't some crazy, conspiracy minded tales; for those who follow my posts, it's just human nature. The desire to access/possess "money", even if it is only printed receipts ie fiat currency, is insatiable. Rothbard himself discusses the emergence of central banking as a result of these impulses at the gov't level. Thus, we get people today demanding their "Obama bucks" aka "more pie".

These stories never end well, and neither will ours.

* The Case Against the Fed - Murray Rothbard

* A short history of paper-money and banking in the United States - William M. Gouge

Here's a short excerpt written in 1815!

In most disquisitions upon the noxious tendency of Banks, much stress has been laid upon the injuries they have a power to inflict, by excessive loans and consequent bankruptcy, and by creating and circulating a permanent excess of currency. Could these two evils be avoided, many believe that Banks would be innoxious.

I regret to differ. I am not of those who imagine that Banks incorporated with a liberal capital, will ever endanger their solvency by extending their loans; nor of those who believe that Banks controlled bv specie payment, can circulate a permanent excess of paper. And yet, I think I can perceive a portentous power that they exercise over commercial enterprize.

I am of opinion that they can circulate a temporary excess of paper, which, from time to time, finds a corrective, in a run upon the Banks for specie ; that this temporary excess is succeeded by a temporary deficiency, one extreme invariably tending to another ; that the consequences of this alternate excess and deficiency are, in the former case to impart an undue excitement, and in the latter an undue depression to commercial enterprize ; that the effect of the former is to create an unnatural facility in procuring money, and to enhance unnaturally the price of commodities; while that of the latter is to produce an artificial scarcity, and to cheapen prices artificially ; that the victims of these vibrations are the great body of merchants, whose capital and average deposits cannot always command discounts; that the gainers are a few intelligent and shrewd and shrewd capitalists, the magnitude of whose deposits commands enormous discounts at all times, and who, being behind the curtain, know when to buy and when to sell.

I am of opinion that these vibrations inflict evils which close not with mercantile speculation ; that they tend to unhinge and disorder the regular routine of commerce, and introduce at one moment a spirit of wild and daring speculation, and at another, a prostration of confidence, and stagnation of business : that these feelings are transferred from the counting-house to the fire-side ; that the visionary profits of one day stimulate extravagance, and the positive losses of another engender spleen, irritation, restlessness, a spirit of gambling and domestic inquietude....,

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:37 | 159020 WaterWings
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Great post.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 15:01 | 159253 ThreeTrees
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Here here!

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:49 | 158959 Anonymous
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That azzhole is gonna extend benefits forever, and we'll all pay for it.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:06 | 158980 bokapita
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For a foreigner, could someone please explain if these EUC numbers are included in the U6 figures that are published by the BLS each month?

Thank you, someone.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:18 | 159006 Anonymous
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I realize it now makes more sense to read Zerohedge to laugh at the reader's lost gains. Tyler Druden? The fictional Durden wouldn't be caught dead as an investor! (and he certainly wouldn't hang out with pbmathews - except maybe to beat him up)

All I see is a lot of whining (that is only thinly obscured) about not being part of the "in group" of insider traders.

What can you lose if you never had a lot to begin with? That has always been my motto. I don't want riches. I don't want to work for a bank. I don't want to waste time worrying about investments. Excess material gain is a trap for the soulless.

I'm not sure many of you care what happens to those who are unemployed and/or struggling anyway, except to press your own ideological agendas.

Most of the wannabes here have more cash than those who they blithely claim anger for. And for those who don't feel sympathy, what does it matter if you lose all your money? For my part, I'd like to be the first on the thread to tell you to go to hell.

Don't worry -- some of us care about your continued existence -- in the sense that brings a smile to our faces each time we hear a complaint of more investment losses. Please by all means, carry on painfully. I've got a spot staked out for you in the unemployment line.

Sleep well. I'm sure you'll feel better mocking your detractors without addressing your own predatory aims. The jungle will eat you and move on.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:55 | 159054 GoldmanBaggins
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You are Anonymous yet you have a motto??

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:03 | 159133 Anonymous
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"I've got a spot staked out for you in the unemployment line."

The one in Boston next to one of the more prestigious schools...

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 18:24 | 159523 Ripped Chunk
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A shallow grave in the NJ Meadowlands is better.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:24 | 159182 Anonymous
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"I'm not sure many of you care what happens to those who are unemployed and/or struggling anyway, except to press your own ideological agendas."

"Caring" about what happens to others is what got this country in the position it's in right now. The sooner you figure out that a government that promises to take care of everyone will include big business as part of the collective "everyone," the easier it will be for you to realize that you're being played for a sucker, too.

"For my part, I'd like to be the first on the thread to tell you to go to hell."

Sounds like you have some passive-aggressive emotional issues.

"Sleep well. I'm sure you'll feel better mocking your detractors without addressing your own predatory aims. The jungle will eat you and move on."

If you think you're not going to be affected by any of this, you're kidding yourself. Perhaps it's easier for you for puff up your own unwarranted sense of self-regard than it is to be an informed member of society.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 15:58 | 159303 DiverCity
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Yours is a truly confused post.  In fact, I think you're "hearing" what you want to hear in some of the complaints on ZH.  There are plenty on here who are in dire financial staits with no "cash" to speak of.  What you seem not to understand is that most of the posters here are cognizant of who has caused and continues to cause the deep and intractable problems lurking beneath the surface:  to wit, the banksters and their enabling fascist minions in government.   The insiders ain't losing money brother.  They're making it by fraud.  I don't look for "excess material gain," whatever that is.  Rather, I look for a country with an economy that my children and grandchildren can "succeed" in, even if they don't go to the finest schools and don't desire "excess financial gain."  You're a bitter little shit, but you're aiming that at the wrong targets.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 20:42 | 159651 Anonymous
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As someone that spent the better part of their formative years and adult hood as a practising Christian monk
I'd like to point out the flaw in your statement
'excess material gain'.
Without resorting to any proverbs or paraphrasing, allow me to say that ANY material gain presents the same set of problems, so how deep in the grave you place your feet is your call.

You suggest predation is itself some flaw of character, and not the necessary will to survive that it actually is.
You could and probably should argue this vehemently in a small locked room with a starving lion.

My point is you claim to practice spiritual existence, yet your solace seems to be in berating material existence, without even understanding it, and perhaps conceptually
claiming some exemption from it of equal substantive value as a Treasury IOU to Social Security.

Advice : feed the hungry, clothe the poor, DO and don't talk.


Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:24 | 159007 Let them all fail
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Gotta love the seasonal adjustment cutting unemployment claims from 664k to 474k, does seasonal adjustment mean that someone spilled some cumin and oregano all over the official papers and they couldn't read the actual number, so they just made up a "seasonally adjusted" number that sounded nice?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:47 | 159038 Pat C
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This graph is unbelievable.  ZH, Tyler Durden who ever you are you gotta get this out to MSM somehow.  We are intentionally being misled.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:51 | 159047 alexdg
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Rick Santelli is bashing the media for printing the news backwards and is talking about the numbers being flawed and mentioning the brutal surge in emergency jobless claims.


Cudos for him!

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:09 | 159067 Screwball
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What show was that on?  I would like to watch the clip.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:55 | 159052 Anonymous
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Is the number of people on Emergency Jobless Insurance included in the number of Continuing Claims? i.e. since the Continuing Claims number is 5.1mm Emergency Jobless number is 4.1mm, does that mean that the total number of people really gaining unemployment benefits is 9.2mm?

Just trying to get some clarity if these numbers are separate or not.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 12:56 | 159056 Anonymous
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Is the number of people on Emergency Jobless Insurance included in the number of Continuing Claims? i.e. since the Continuing Claims number is 5.1mm Emergency Jobless number is 4.1mm, does that mean that the total number of people really gaining unemployment benefits is 9.2mm?

Just trying to get some clarity if these numbers are separate or not.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:00 | 159058 Anonymous
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The Elite and Wall Street love higher unemployment because it guarantees that they can borrows at zero interest rates. There is not moral risk for the Banks as Treasury/administration will bail out or hide all losses. The accounting rules have been suspended. New highs will likely be made in the market before the collaspe.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 13:54 | 159120 AnonymousMonetarist
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'In ancient rome
There was a poem
About a dog
Who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead

Then if you got it you don’t want it
Seems to be the rule of thumb
Don’t be tricked by what you see
You got two ways to go

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom from choice
Is what you want


'There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.'
-Kyle Reese

'Progress is impossible without change; and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything. It's your place in the world, it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live.' 
-George Bernard Shaw

'Failure is success turned inside out.'

'When the student is ready the teacher will arrive.'
-Zen proverb

'To be mindful is a discontinuous process, our senses allow us a glimpse at the perfect form (truth) but that view can often be distorted by the flickering fire of perception that illuminates the shapes we perceive to believe.'
-Anonymous Monetarist

Have learned nothing from my successes for success has nothing to teach.

Failure though has schooled me well. Embracing, accepting and ultimately searching for failure has allowed me to be and accept that I am the luckiest of fools.

Not diminished by failure but rather, shall we say, contained, I am a Black Swan, mindful of my nature to go to extremes, thankful in the wisdom that, while most certainly still under development,keeps me balanced.

Back in the day at the University of Illinois had a classical civ teacher who used to dress up as the Oracle at Delphi every Friday and predict the winner of the upcoming Fighting Illini football game.

The class was huge, about 800 or so students, but this instructor was marvelous, able to connect with you even though he was but a speck on the stage. 

One day he said something that I really did not 'hear' until many years later.

He told a story of a Victorious General that was returning to Rome. To honor the General, the Emperor held a gala where throngs of adoring citizens regaled the champion as he was paraded through the city centre with all the pomp and pageantry that could be afforded. The General stood alone in the chariot receiving the adulation of his countryman, alone save for one individual that was placed next to the General. This individual had been assigned a task by the Emperor. His job was to as, the General basked in his glory, whisper into the General's ear every secret, every failing, every unknown known - or in the words of a famous Louisiana politician, every dead girl and live boy - every bit of dirt the Emperor had on the war hero.

The purpose was to make sure that the General's perspective remained, shall we say, balanced.

That is why whenever I feel good about myself I tell myself to go f@&# myself.

There are a lot of folks that we read about nowadays that very much need to get a memo like that.

For as we collectively double down on a lost decade to avoid a lost generation our inability to allow folks to be schooled by failure will ultimately ensure that success will only be achieved ideologically and not literally. 

Failure to liquidate the insolvent banksters, failure to implement real insurance, and more importantly entitlement, reform, failure to end the madness of foreign adventurism, is a failure of the tough over the easy and the truth over the specious.

Notwithstanding the claim of that silly television show, most folks do not lie. They are good, reasonable and honest. That is why the Big Lie works. It is so very difficult for them to process that the truths that they hold to be most dear are lies told to them by liars. They just can't grasp the delusion that those in a place of power and privilege have been captured by, a mindset that feeds them the pablum narrative that the ends justify the means. 

The cold hard fact of our age is that the bankrupt ideology of the rich that had greatly succeeded in drafting the inner monologue of regular folks so that they would vote against their self-interests is colliding head-on with a Mr. Market that is a bit pissed off that we've inflated it out of the business cycle for the last quarter century.

Reality is the tail risk and payback is a bitch.

I am a fierce social liberal (and fiscal conservative.)

Mr. President you are losing my faith and you are losing my vote.

And Barry, if you're losin' me, you are down deep in the hole my friend. 

The time will come when you will have to make a choice Mr. Dunham, will you be schooled and do the right thing or will you just ask for a bigger shovel?

Choose wrong and a demagogue like the Manchurian Mountain Mama might just have a shot of taking you on and winning.

If Palin gets in even the most avowed liberal would award Incurious George the Nobel Prize in comparison.


Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:08 | 159141 Anonymous
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r u a bot?

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:27 | 159188 AnonymousMonetarist
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Fired up and ready to go ...

Follow the white rabbit.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 14:37 | 159210 faustian bargain
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Unsurprisingly, NPR reported only the spin number this morning, along with some extra cheerleading.

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 18:30 | 159531 Anonymous
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if the unemployment chart was a stock id would go long

lmfao thats a bad sign people....

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 21:50 | 159694 Anonymous
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All you people need to be ashamed talking trash about our government. WE IN THE USA HAVE THE BEST GOVERNMENT MONEY CAN BUY!

Thu, 12/10/2009 - 22:45 | 159741 Anonymous
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The Sun is quiet, chances are it's going to be a cold winter. Many people are homeless, many more are just getting by. Freeze or starve. Stark choices many will have to make. This winter may tear the social fabric of this country apart.

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 00:43 | 159811 Anonymous
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Fri, 12/11/2009 - 02:25 | 159858 Anonymous
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Hi Everyone. I have read the article and the comments. The comments make me laugh! A great vocabulary "spinsters" hahaha. You peeps are for real. But hey, you are pretty much right: Blue collar workers went in 1990's, and nobody peeped up. Then 2000's the white collar jobs went and a few peeped up. Now the elites simply want ONLY the workers that are "required" to keep the wheels greased, and this means very few. Then there is always the resume game, which pathetic-heads don't get. I mean, some people stand in lines at stadiums to get their resumes criticised by kiddies who don't know shit. That is sick. Hey, look, the jobs ain't coming back. We aint gonna get houses and nice cars, we are going to be strapped-down. We have to start a new way of making cash. Really. I think America will be the new Asia where we have open markets and night markets and stuff. Everybody living in bedsits eating sardines for dinner (winners breakfast). Yeah, meanwhile, because we are in such a big (financial) hole, lets keep digging until we hit Brisbane daylight. One more thing: we should not worry about future generations (environmental or otherwise) because future generations dont have any rights, they don't exist. It's nonsensical to save to world for future generations, when nobody knows if the world will end tomorrow.

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 07:13 | 159919 Spartacus
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WHy there are so many Anonymous ones here.


Anyways, Folks, have faith in "Timmy The Dog", "Berny The Banana Bugger" and all the loonies.

IF the Banks fail, heaven wil fall. It is better that you folks move under a bridge rather than the bastards lose their bonuses. Am I clear!

Heaven will come crashing down on all of you. The motherfuckers are doing "God's work". Didn't you listen to the "Head Of Hydra'. So just keep quite and get raped.Yeh!

Fri, 12/11/2009 - 11:26 | 160047 Anonymous
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Wed, 02/23/2011 - 03:50 | 987848 shawnlee
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No problem, as the unemployed and destitute still have a vote to ensure that the Messiah and his Congressional Critters will be reelected next November.

I might suggest to the Federal Elections Commission that they open new Polling Places under America's bridges, as people might find it difficult to make the trip to more remote locations.

persuade me.

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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 04:05 | 1085128 shawnlee
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Wed, 06/15/2011 - 06:53 | 1370290 messlia
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i think its easy to get the jobless insurance claim fro mthe Govt. there is no big hurdle in it. What you say??

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Wed, 08/17/2011 - 04:49 | 1568151 newdeals2
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Look for this number to keep going into the stratosphere as the 6 month continuing claims cliff keeps getting hit by more and more people who are unemployed and keep looking not only for believable change, but actual jobs to go with it. custom binders

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