End of Empire - Waking Zombie Nations / Psychology, Consciousness and the Egoic Mind

To be fair, this article could just as easily have been called “Waking a Zombie World”. While various people and governments point to the USA as the bad actor in this mess, in fact it has taken dozens of nations to form this conga line to hell and the rest of the world is far from blameless. Nor is America the sole residence of the world’s zombie population. However, since this writer and much of the ZH readership reside in American, we will assume an American (ego) centric focus. My apologies for the delay in posting this article which I had promised some time ago. In my defense, there are hundreds of thick and dusty books on this subject at the local library, proof that it’s not very easy to condense this complex subject into a 10 minute read. In fact, it’s impossible to do so and not even worth trying. While you can break visible light down to its primary colors, it’s actually composed of millions. The same applies to this subject. What I finally decided to do was break it down into separate postings so that the reader could find the courage and stamina to actually read it. Even with the division, be forewarned that this first posting is still a long read.
This article is an effort to understand what’s really going on, why Americans (and the rest of the world) appear to be frozen in place, seemingly helpless and hopeless in the face of incredible corruption and thieving. A quick review of history shows us this isn’t the first time it has happened, though it may be the biggest since the 1930’s. In fact, these types of disasters seem to occur regularly, following a well worn script to its inevitable conclusion. The bad guys escape with the loot while the general population looks on, tails between the legs, hands in pockets and eyes cast down, impotent to the end. Why do we allow ourselves to be used and abused like this? Why are we spectators to our own destruction? While the human condition can’t always be quantified, it can be understood to some extent, but only if we’re willing to peer into some extremely uncomfortable places. My ultimate goal in writing this “End of Empire” series is to promote reflection and understanding. Significant and lasting political and social change will not occur until we elevate our understanding and awareness far above where it is today. I most definitely don’t have all the answers and anyone who claims they do is smoking the good stuff and should share their stash with this formerly long haired hippie. Pass the bong dude.
In this article, I’ll describe how I see myself, the world and the people who live in it. By doing so, the reader will be looking over my shoulder at the workings of the human psyche, or at least my interpretation of the psyche. What you will not find is the consensus view on this subject. For that, all you need do is pop open a standard psychology 101 text book and dive in. The reason I leave the beaten path is simple. The really interesting ideas are usually found way out on the fringe and deep in the weeds. That’s not to say you can’t find “truth” or accurate knowledge within the consensus, just that cutting edge ideas and concepts aren’t tolerated well among the establishment. In my opinion, the established leaders rarely go into areas that aren’t well traveled and seldom stray from their own fields of expertise. Ironically, in a discipline that devotes much ink to the discussion of the ego, the principal players’ egos prevent little more than incremental forward progress. When you’re sipping from government and corporate grants, you don’t often make waves.
Now for the fine print disclaimer. My understanding is ever changing and evolving and I reserve the right to change my opinion before I finish this sentence or this series. The one constant thing in life is change. All I ask of the reader is to read this in its entirety and in the order written. When mucking around in the bushes, it’s very easy to take things out of context when you don’t read the context. The subject is so involved and complex that each paragraph could be expanded into 8 more and still not be complete. I ask the reader to consider that I just might have left some things out of this article in the interest of brevity and not because I’m clueless.
Established “facts” are often facts the consensus believes can be or has been proven, which in the field of psychology is usually what the majority believes to be fact. Circular logic is often accepted by the consensus because it substantiates and validates the consensus. We see this in religion, politics, science, finance, in every human behavior. Because of this, it’s impossible to understand ourselves and our world without a fundamental knowledge of psychology and philosophy and the willingness to break the boundaries of accepted thought and leave the pack. From my point of view, only when I began to color (way) outside the lines did I begin to pull together seemingly unconnected ideas and concepts into a bigger, more coherent picture. Psychology helps me understand why we do what we do and philosophy forces me (at least temporarily) to abandon any notions of right or wrong, good and bad, better or worse and see life as it really is. When thinking philosophically, I must leave my biases and prejudices at the door. I use these two tools, along with others, to gain (and hopefully maintain) perspective.
Since I’m not a classically trained psychologist with a consensus belief system, I’m at liberty to explore multiple ideas and concepts that aren’t constrained by a formal ideology or professional field of expertise. From my point of view, I’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain. Instead of herding everything I learn into rigid categories for emotional and intellectual comfort, I try to follow the rabbit wherever it goes. After decades of trying to do things “my way or the highway” I’ve learned the hard way it’s best to navigate life with an open mind and a loosely held belief system, in the same manner one might gently cradle a delicate butterfly rather than desperately clutch a huge sack of potatoes. By doing so, when something doesn’t fit my worldview or belief system, I simply let go and let it mold itself into any shape that’s required to fit the new information. Contrary to what one might think, this doesn’t result in radical changes but rather subtle movements. The key is mental and emotional flexibility and with lots of practice and a healthy dose of courage, it can be as easy as that.
While this process might sound nonsensical, impossible even (“you have to believe something” I’ve been told) it’s actually very easy and quite liberating once you exercise it on a regular basis. Very young children do it every day, until it’s finally conditioned out of them using an extremely effective program of dogmatic repetition and indoctrination administered by our state sponsored training institutions known as the public and private school system. For those children who require additional training, there are 4 more years of intensive focus available for a substantial additional charge. Finally, in those tragic cases where a few unfortunate children refuse to absorb their conditioning, graduate school is offered. Quite frankly, it’s their last and only hope and it’s usually financed with huge loans and paid back in monthly installments, assuming they finally secure gainful employment once released onto an unsuspecting and vulnerable world. These adult children are hopelessly institutionalized and those who survive this level of indoctrination have historically done the most damage to society.
All kidding aside (well, actually I wasn’t kidding) the training I just described is not known to produce an open mind and a flexible belief system. As I continue to work on reversing and repairing a lifetime of damage to my own psyche and spirit, the perspective gained from this flexibility allows me to forcibly move my dominant ego to the back of the bus and away from the controls. I say forcibly because the ego is the original and ultimate control freak, a crisis manger that knows it all and won’t willingly release command. The ego will not go quietly into the night. By corralling the egoic mind, it enables my intellect and awareness to explore areas my ego would normally shield from me. It took me the longest time to realize that what I thought was “me”, my “self”, my conscious mind talking and thinking was often and sometimes exclusively my ego, which is a very constrained and purposely narrow slice of my full consciousness. In essence, I discovered that my ego, that constant companion I’d always assumed was “me”, wasn’t actually “me”. Worse yet, I realized my ego lied to me. As a matter of fact, my ego lied to me all the time, in a very successful attempt to shield me from myself and the world around me.
It appears I really am wearing rose colored glasses, placed there by an hyper vigilant ego perfectly adapted to an environment made dangerous by lions, tigers and bears (oh my) but mostly useless and quite self destructive in a modern world of townhouses and tea parties. While the ego is wonderfully capable of piloting the ship through dangerous shoals and shark infested waters, it is not well suited to the everyday mundane task of cruise ship captain. It is time to extract the (ego) maniac from the pilot house and put him in charge of the bilge pumps. However, you don’t want to remove the ego completely because you need it in a pinch. While the ego will scream and holler at first, (usually manifested in fear and anxiety) it really isn’t comfortable handling delicate cruise ship piloting duties 24/7. Once you negotiate a truce with your ego by assuring your ego you need it during crisis situations, the ego will stay busy rebuilding the bilge pumps and manning the life boats, where it really is much happier. You really don’t want the antisocial and paranoid head of security running the public relations department all the time.
Don’t believe me? Think this is silly? Well, you might be correct, but consider the following. Have you ever experienced a situation where you’re talking to someone, carrying on a somewhat heated conversation (meaning your ego is front and center) and yet at the same time you mentally float off and find yourself watching yourself as you argue with the person? Or something happens and you react instinctively, yet at the same time and in the back of your mind, you’re asking yourself why you’re doing or saying this or that? I’m talking about real time here, not after the fact. Sort of like watching yourself while also being in the “here and now”. This actually happens to many people but rarely do they talk about it publically, for fear of being branded crazy or weird. I suggest that if you’ve never experienced this, it might be because you’ve never tried or you’re more egocentric than some (that’s not necessarily a bad thing, it just is what it is) and you might benefit from being aware of it.
To go a little further with this idea (and deeper into the weeds) as I’ve learned to control my dreams (I submit that dreaming is simply a different aspect of consciousness) there are times when I’m in my dream (seeing through my dream eyes in my dream body so to speak) while also watching myself in my dream, in exactly the same manner as described above. But I’ve also experienced (more accurately controlled) the third perspective while dreaming, moving in and out of my dream body at will, disembodied from myself, while at the same time watching me watch my ego in the dream. There are other perspectives as well (out of your dream body and into someone else’s dream body, which I find exhilarating) but I don’t wish to scare off the reader too soon.
I see all this as simply different perspectives or dimensions of the same consciousness. I humorously call this dream state the ultimate expression of me, myself and I (and that guy). While some people get physically and emotionally upset when I discuss this (yes, some people become quite threatened by things like this) if science can rationally discuss string and membrane theory, quantum mechanics and 11 dimensions, I can talk about expanded consciousness. For those readers experiencing a queasy stomach right about now, wondering who this lunatic is, you’re welcome to exit stage right if you like. For those readers who regularly read my comments on ZH, I’ll quote my all time favorite line from the movie “Starman”. “You wanted crazy, you got crazy.” :>)
Circling back, this heightened awareness has many different names in other cultures and (not surprisingly) it’s that place or level one wishes to reach during meditation, Yoga or intense concentration. Many “creative” and “religious” people have reported reaching a heightened state of awareness during moments of greatest inspiration and concentration. (I’ll touch the “religious” third rail in my next article.) This heightened awareness can only be reached by taking the ego out of the driver’s seat and engaging yourself. You, or more accurately your consciousness, can be found in this area of higher awareness, where your true creativity and knowledge is located. This is where you find the more fully formed you, not the everyday ego we all assume is us, which is what is exposed to the world when we’re on automatic pilot. This higher awareness is where your gut instinct resides, the place where problems are sorted out when you “sleep on it”, where you put something in the back of your mind for processing. If you think about it, there are dozens of popular cliché’s we use every day that actually describe a higher level of consciousness. While we kind of, maybe, sort of, accept this as possible, we rarely spend any time attempting to engage this area at will and use this power to our benefit.
Just think, all those wasted years in my late teens and early 20’s taking hallucinogenic drugs and looking for me when I was actually right here all the time. :>) You really can have lots of fun with this if you don’t take yourself too seriously and regularly tickle the funny bone. (I’ll cover more thoroughly the “hallucinogenic drugs” third rail next time.) My little laugh at my own expense actually highlights that most basic and fundamental aspect of being human, the longing or yearning for “meaning” that humans have described for thousands of years. Think of the tens of thousands of books, poems and songs written over the ages describing the search for the meaning and purpose of life. As you might suspect, I have some ideas on the subject but not here, not now. By the way, Microsoft’s “Word” spell check doesn’t like this article. Too many me, myself and I’s (which Word as king narcissist automatically corrects to read “me, me, me”) has Bill Gates’ crowning achievement all worked up.
Anyway, the phenomenon of watching your ego while awake and aware is sometimes called perspective but also has many other names and explanations. The real question is how are you able to do this if “you” are your ego and your ego is “you”? How can you be “you” and also be watching yourself at the same time? It’s almost as if you’re of two minds as the saying goes. In my opinion, the ego is a narrow slice of and a distinct part of your total consciousness (but a part of it none-the-less) something I call my basic self, where my mental reflexes lay, the emotional me, the crisis manager, my reptilian brain for lack of a better term. You can actually train yourself to step back and watch your ego at will, though it can be more difficult during times of stress, when the dominant ego asserts it’s primacy over your consciousness. Interestingly, during deep concentration or during meditation, when I’ve moved the ego into the background and my consciousness forward, I sense there are additional levels of awareness. It’s my understanding that it’s possible for the more highly developed conscious being (shamans, Dali Lama, etc) to “go” much further than I can even conceive of. This is a rabbit hole that’s very deep, endless even, and while I’ll never fully explore it in my lifetime, it’ll be loads of fun trying.
Once you begin to practice this, you find it’s much easier to subvert your ego because you no longer identify yourself with the ego. “You” are not your ego and your ego is not “you”. “You” are the master, the overseer, the conscious being and your ego is your servant, in the same manner your arm is a part of you but not “you”. (Unless of course you’re Peter Seller’s arm in “Dr Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb” a wonderfully powerful examination of global insanity created and accepted by the consensus reality.) Interestingly, it appears that for the last six thousand years, the ego has gained more and more control over the human psyche; to the point where today it remains dominant nearly all the time. In fact, there is growing evidence that ancient man didn’t “think” or experience reality in the same way we do today. But since we know of nothing else, of no other way to be, we assume this is normal and natural. My studies indicate it hasn’t always been normal for the ego to be primary, front and center, crowding out our greater awareness, pushing it into the background. (I’ll expand on this in the next article.)
Of course, at times you do want a dominant ego, such as when a car is about to strike you, the ladder is about to fall or someone is waving a gun in your face. You want and need that part of your consciousness to dominate, when any hesitation might kill you. But not when you’re sitting in the board room or on the throne in the bathroom. Servants don’t dominant the master but instead follow the masters bidding. BTW, please don’t get hung up on the word “control” because it’s not about control of the ego as much as understanding, awareness and perspective of the ego and your consciousness.
The next step in understanding your consciousness (once you understand the separation of “you” and your ego) is to understand that, contrary to conventional wisdom, there is no clear division of the conscious mind separated from the unconscious mind, with the ego mixed into the mess. Instead, understand that there is only a totality called consciousness (including the collective consciousness, which will be discussed in the next article) and the ego is constraining your view of your own total consciousness in the same way a massively large but completely dark warehouse might appear to you if all you have is a small flashlight which only illuminates a very small area. Now consider that your ego, which is usually controlling the direction and intensity of the flashlight, is a hyper alert, very frightened and extremely strong child wandering through the pitch black vastness completely alone.
Clearly the child is not in the mood to explore and understand. In fact, the child will deliberately ignore anything that could possibly be threatening, frightening or even confusing. You will be blind to many things because your ego will simply not illuminate it for you. Even if the ego recedes into the background, it still very effectively filters “reality” or “truth” if you’re not aware of the ego and its methods. You can’t see what you don’t know about or what you’re not aware of. (This reminds me of that wonderfully obtuse but factually correct statement by Donald Rumsfeld. “You have your known knowns, your known unknowns and your unknown unknowns.”) Your ego is a crisis manager and is always on high alert and not rational or logical under any circumstances. In fact, the term “rational or logical ego” is the ultimate oxymoron.
The ego’s fight or flight survival instincts, when allowed to be the dominant emotion, is not very well suited to exploration and understanding of the darkened area of your consciousness, which requires curiosity, insight, reflection, sensitivity, etc. However, the ego is very well adapted to deal with crisis, hunger, severe physical stress and so on, making the ego an excellent crisis manager. The ego, which is always on high alert though not always dominant, will “see” things such as scary shapes or movement and “hear” noises that for the most part will be a complete fabrication. Now switch on the overhead flood lights, illuminating the entire warehouse, and suddenly all those previously frightening shapes and sounds turn out to be easily recognizable familiar objects. While I don’t know how to (fully) turn on my mental flood lights, I’m absolutely convinced that if we were able to switch the lights on, we would laugh heartily at our own foolishness and insanity, for it would all make sense once we could see the big picture. We’ve all seen those picture grabs that are nearly impossible to decipher (like a circle with rods radiating outward) until we pull back to see the entire perspective (a Ferris or bicycle wheel) and suddenly it all makes sense.
While I’m a long way from this level of awareness, significant progress can still be realized if I understand that I’m no longer compelled to allow my ego to dominate and distort everything all the time. Just as important, knowing the past is littered with distortions and lies perpetrated by the ego, I must begin the process of re-examination and reflection. In addition, once I understand what the ego is and its role in my existence, I can more easily see through the ego’s distortion and subterfuge. While my ego still throws the occasional temper tantrum in the middle of the supermarket, I’ve learned to recognize the warning signs and not take it personally, pun intended. Even if I’m unable to stop the ego tantrum, I can still quickly escort my ego outside and lock it in the car. Understanding the circumstances that color my perception will go a long way towards dealing with it. The scary monster creeping up behind me is very often my ego.
In truly dysfunctional individuals, where the ego is extremely dominant and in constant tension with the conscious mind, I suspect the ego deliberately sabotages the individual to create crisis after crisis in order to “feel” needed and useful. While the ego might be an excellent crisis manager, once we recognize that the ego sees the world from an extremely narrow point of view, we shouldn’t ever expect the ego to act like a mature adult, applying reason and insight to lessons learned in order to modify future behavior. The ego is the one tiger that will never change its stripes. This might explain why some people seem to be extremely self destructive yet when carefully questioned, report that they’re completely clueless about their behavior.
Understanding the ego and its effect on human behavior helps explain, or at least helps one understand, all kinds of bizarre human behavior. Remember, the ego doesn’t make moral judgments as we understand “moral” to be (right or wrong, just or unjust, good or bad) but simply “sees” the world from its own narrow point of view, that of harm or no harm to itself or to the entire consciousness that it’s a part of. Actually, the ego sees itself as a separate and distinct entity rather than a part of the bigger whole. The ego sees itself as THE captain of the ship and everything else as passengers and cargo that the ego is responsible for. Thus, the ego sees itself as besieged on all sides by danger and oppression, under constant assault and in continuous survival mode. Psychopathic or sociopathic behavior is more understandable when seen through the eyes of the controlling ego. If the ego has completely taken over the conscious being and is continuously and permanently in control, from the point of view of the ego, it’s constantly fighting for its very existence and anything goes. The insanity of the psychopath/sociopath makes perfect sense when you understand that the ego is permanently in the psychopath’s drivers seat.
Circling back to the concept of a lightly held worldview, I’m not actually abandoning everything I know and believe each time I let go. Instead I’m simply changing my perspective. Each time I come face to face with a fact or idea that I might have previously rejected as impossible or unbelievable, instead of meeting it with “no” and rejecting it outright, I can first try “why not”. It requires letting go of my defensive position, my ego, my fight or flight crisis management reflex and trusting that I can emotionally and mentally withstand a shock to my belief system, that the new information is valuable to me rather than threatening. The thing is, once I let go, there is no shock to the system because there’s nothing there to resist. If you don’t “own” your belief system, there is nothing to lose when it must be released for reconditioning. It can be difficult at times to leave the old conditioning behind and it shows when I write “I believe” because those words implies ownership of a belief system. Habits are obvious indications of conditioning.
Think about that old joke, how it’s not the fall that kills you but the sudden stop. By removing the need to withstand assaults to your rigid belief system (because it’s light and flexible and easily released) there’s no sudden stop. It’s as if you’re a screen door, barely affected by the gust of wind passing through. It’s really remarkable how many doors you suddenly find open once you stop pounding on the closed door in front of you and look around. By letting go of the desperate urge (created by the ego) to control or restrict the information flow, suddenly we recognize that no idea or concept can harm us (manifested as fear and anxiety) unless we oppose it. It’s never a question of being able to learn new things; the problem lay with letting go of the old stuff.
This is why children are more easily trained and so impressionable. They’re an open book, with very little old baggage to overcome and plenty of open space to be filled. Worse (and this realization has brought me to tears a few times) we, you and I, our society, are teaching our own children’s ego to be dominant and to control, to lie and to cheat. Because the ego has no mechanism to distinguish between right and wrong, while the higher consciousness might better understand the difference between a “white” lie and full blown deceit, the ego simply sees this incoming information as tools to be used, usually against the consciousness and its human host, your son or daughter.
I’ll never forget the day a few decades back when I was trying to explain to my 4 year old son (to answer his question) the difference between a small lie and a big lie. My son was completely bewildered and I could see it in his eyes. I realized then and there that I was creating my very own Frankenstein’s monster. I was teaching my son how to rationalize and justify and game the system, to accept the conditioning, to be part of the hive mentality. And even when I fought against this insanity, society was more than willing to pick up the slack. While we’re training our child about hot stoves and thin ice, we’re also teaching the ego how to lie, cheat and deceive. As we are (in) forming the child’s consciousness, we are (in) forming the ego. This is a difficult rabbit hole to go down, to recognize that you’re harming your child, but it does deserve serious thought.
Well meaning people have tried to assure me that I was just doing what I thought was best to reinforce and validate their denial (no I wasn’t, I recognized what I was doing but I was too weak, lazy and conditioned to fight my own conditioning all the time) or that if I didn’t teach my child, he would not have been as well adjusted as he obviously was (being well adjusted to a sick and insane society is not a good thing) but I’ve made peace with myself on this matter. Just realize that anyone travelling down this road must deal with this speed bump eventually. However, with regard to learning about yourself and your consciousness, you can be a wide eyed and fearless little child again; open to new ideas and concepts, resilient and adaptable, a dry sponge waiting to be filled with water. It’s a matter of willingness, not ability or intelligence. In fact initially, when you’re first learning this process, thinking often gets in the way because the conditioned egocentric intellectual process is the old rut you’re stuck in and something to be avoided. You don’t want to push yourself into the same rut you’re pushing yourself out of.
I often think of life and our perception of reality as a jigsaw puzzle. There are countless puzzle pieces in front of us and from the moment we’re born (I suggest it starts before birth) we begin assembling the pieces into a coherent picture. While most of the more complex puzzle construction takes place during the training and conditioning phase we call our education, our basic concepts and beliefs are cemented into place by 5 or 6 years of age. Think of the children as Zombies in training. We are conditioned, well before the officially structured conditioning ever begins, to believe that the world (reality) is finite, quantifiable and static. Obviously the consensus view of how the pieces fit together is predetermined by society long before you’re born and very often the pieces don’t fit together very well. Because we trust those around us to know better, we simply accept what we’re told, that the ill fitting pieces are natural and to be expected. As we grow older and develop more independence, while we can clearly see there are pieces left over even when our education is done, we’re assured by society that these pieces are inconsequential, not needed, unimportant and immaterial. And quite frankly, society tends to ostracize those who ask difficult and uncomfortable questions. So as we navigate our lives, when outlier or incompatible information pushes to the top of the froth, we follow our conditioning and compare these stray and orphan pieces against our ever changing list of socially acceptable facts. The vast majority of the time we simply discard them when they don’t fit our view or that of society.
Let’s look at this a little closer. How many times over the past 12 months have you been reading a book, newspaper, magazine, trolling the Internet, listening to a news program, whatever, when something leaps to the center of your attention and immediately prompts a “What the hell” response. Here’s a stray puzzle piece that for whatever reason has been thrust into view. It doesn’t fit anywhere in your personal puzzle but there it is, commanding your attention and demanding resolution. But this piece is “out there” and for some reason you may feel a little uncomfortable, fearful, angry even. While it’s just one little piece of the puzzle, it feels threatening to you. How dare this puzzle piece jump out in front of you and disturb your peaceful day. Or maybe not, maybe you have no feeling either way. But still it doesn’t fit. So what do you do? Do you spend the next 3 hours re-examining your belief system or this puzzle piece in an honest attempt to understand the outlier. Of course you don’t, because the piece doesn’t fit. Out it goes, usually never to be seen again.
I cannot overemphasize how powerful the impulse is for the conditioned person (again, the Zombie) to stay within societies boundaries and discard the outlier puzzle pieces. Interestingly, the type of information (how contrary it is to the consensus opinion of society) is not always the sole or even principal determination used by the person when deciding what to do with it. The credibility of the purveyor of this information is often more important. For example, if the source of the information is suspect, the piece can be (more) easily discarded. However, if the source is extremely credible, the conditioned person faces a crisis of confidence. While they trust the source, the information is very disturbing. The ego sees this emotional stress and conflict as a crisis and struggles mightily to compel the person, through fear and anxiety, to reject the puzzle piece and return to emotional stability. If the person rejects the information, the ego will turn down (but never off) the fear and anxiety.
Even the credibility of the information itself is sometimes immaterial. The person often doesn’t even want to look at it very closely because doing so will simply make the crisis more difficult to deal with. It’s not the information that’s threatening as much as the person’s view of how that information will affect their position in society. If society is telling them that anyone who accepts this information will be rejected or ostracized, the information is downright dangerous to the person. The deeper the conditioning and the more the person has surrendered his identity to society and its conditioning, the deeper the crisis will be. This is the reason why so many people go through life with closed minds, seemingly certain they know precisely what’s right and wrong. In many ways, these people are protecting themselves from emotional crisis, though they would never admit that to themselves or to others because this insight is emotionally threatening. The dog is chasing its tail in a positive feedback loop.
If the leaders of a society wish to manipulate the population (duh) this explains why the leaders (we’re not just talking politicians here) would lie to their citizens, something I’ve repeatedly talked about on ZH. If the person (the conditioned mind) in crisis is confronted with information they desperately wish to reject, but the information or source is extremely credible, the person needs emotional help to discard the information. The ego is pounding on the person in the form of fear and anxiety to drop this hot potato, to resolve the crisis. The person is desperate for emotional cover to relieve their suffering. If they reject the information in order to stop the emotional pain and be accepted in the eyes of society (which is extremely important to the conditioned person) then they must personally reject the information and the source.
But they know deep down (though not always consciously) that they should at least look at the information more closely and quite possibly embrace it. This is what’s causing the crisis, the knowledge that it could be true. The conditioned mind always knows what the “truth” is and this exerts (additional) pressure on the conditioned mind, even if the conditioned mind is not aware of it. The person needs to receive permission to do what they want to do, which is to reject the information in a manner that allows them to relieve the emotional pain (denial will help them feel better about themselves) and still assure them of society’s acceptance. In other words, in this case they wish to reject the info in a personally and socially acceptable manner.
By the way, it doesn’t matter if “society” is not aware of this person’s crisis. It’s all about how the person see’s himself in relation to society. I will stress again that we’re talking about the conditioned mind here, the so called Zombie. People will reject information while alone at home just as quickly as they would in a public setting. To even be in possession (intellectually or physically, it doesn’t matter) of the information is often very threatening. I’m reminded of the Japanese person talking on the outdoor payphone and bowing while talking. In the person’s mind and manner (meaning in the consciousness) the other person is physically there. This is an important dynamic to understand and it helps explain the “phantom limb syndrome” many amputee’s experience. Experiments have shown that when you see a movie of someone lifting their arm, the part of your brain that controls your own arm lights up in the same manner as it does when you actually lift your own arm. The actual electrical impulses that would move the arm are blocked by another part of the brain (I think it’s your consciousness that blocks it) which apparently knows the difference between pictures and “reality”. But your brain doesn’t perceive any difference between the picture and the real thing. I guess this also explains the multibillion dollar pornography business, doesn’t it? :>) Perception is reality, at least to your brain.
When the politician (as the social leader) lies to the conditioned person (a social animal) about the information, the politician has in effect just given the conditioned mind the good housekeeping stamp of approval to do the same. Accepting the lie is good and acceptable to society because Daddy (society’s leader) says so. We’re talking about infantile responses here when examining the conditioned mind. The political leader, the “official” head of the society, has just told the person exactly what they want to hear. Daddy said it’s not true, the source is mistaken, crazy even, ignore that man behind the curtain, Daddy’s the great and mighty OZ. The conditioned mind can now safely reject the information and remain in good graces in society. Since society is willing to accept the lie, the person can do so as well. In effect, it isn’t a lie anymore because society (by way of society’s leaders) says it isn’t a lie. To the person reading this description of the dynamics of this personal and public subterfuge, it sounds incredible, unbelievable even. Yet this insanity goes on all the time, often in very subtle ways. You and I do this but since our ego won’t let us see ourselves clearly, deliberately obscuring our own self deceit and then papering it over with denial (and then denying the denial) we often remain convinced that others may do this but we don’t. But of course we do.
Let me also assure you that these dynamics are thoroughly understood and utilized by private parties (corporate advertising, sales organizations, etc) and government entities. Consider the entire alphabet soup of overt and covert government agencies here, including more and more private contractors doing the dirty work for the government these days. What exactly do you think is going on when you hear the term “psychological operations” and who do you think those “psyops” are being directed towards? Do you remember those mind control “experiments” conducted by the US government in the 50’s and 60’s, which were piggybacking on the work done by the Nazi doctors? (But let’s not go there, that’s on society’s no-no list.) The key for those who wish to manipulate and control the population is to maintain and extend the conditioning of society. I’ll give you one guess what the principal tool is and how this is accomplished. I’ll even give you a hint; the word contains the letters “T” and “V”. I’ll cover this more thoroughly in part 2 when I talk about control mechanisms.
The puzzle piece itself may be perfectly formed and acceptable in another time or place, or with another person, easily taken in and absorbed. But for this conditioned person, here and now, and for whatever reason, it’s discarded. Why? If you wish to overcome your conditioning, what’s wrong with simply seeing it as a stray puzzle piece that doesn’t yet have a home in your worldview or belief system? Rather than trashing it, you can place it back on the table for future reference. It really is that simple once you recognize that you’re creating the problem here, not the puzzle piece. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been able to pick up puzzle pieces months or years later that finally seem to fit, greatly contributing to my personal growth. I’m certain if I’d trashed them, it’s very likely they’d never be available again. This is because the more pieces I discard the deeper I surrender myself to societies conditioning. Each time we discard something, we must force ourselves deeper and deeper into denial in order to live with ourselves. The damage is cumulative and creates a growing dysfunction and neurosis. We must first deny it ever happened and them we must deny we ever denied it ever happened. This level of mental and emotional deceit can back up and needs to be cleared out occasionally or serious psychosis will develop. What happens when the toilet becomes jammed and won’t flush away life’s waste? A crisis is what happens.
As individuals and as a society, we’re growing more emotionally unstable each day. Witness the dramatic increase in school and work shootings & suicides over the past 30 years, to name just one example. Haven’t you ever wondered where this insanity is coming from? Doesn’t a little siren go off in the back of your head every time someone goes “postal”? Our insanity is increasing, which explains a population growing more obese, more dependent on drugs and distraction to make it through each day. It stands to reason then that the most disturbing puzzle pieces, and thus those most likely to be rejected by the conditioned mind, are those that pertain to society itself. To recognize that society’s leaders not only lie to us but may be trying to harm us (something that is obvious to the less condition mind) is nearly unthinkable. Similarly, recognizing that your spouse is sexually abusing your children or your father is molesting the neighborhood children is also extremely difficult to accept. To the conditioned mind, it is literally unimaginable. The ego will throw up a nearly impenetrable barrier to shield the conditioned mind from this information. How many times have you left a bad relationship and said something like “I never saw it coming” or “How could I have been so blind”? Your ego shielded you from the (coming) emotional trauma by blinding you to reality. Everyone else knew for months your spouse was cheating on you. Why didn’t you?
Sadly, this tendency is conditioned into us from birth and builds upon itself in an out-of-control positive feedback loop that acts as a control mechanism. While some might claim this is natural or just human nature to do so, I think just the opposite. I believe that the control mechanisms, the training and conditioning combined with social peer pressure and its positive feedback loop has been so completely assimilated into our very fabric and perception that it has become indistinguishable from reality, thus it is reality and by extension normal or natural. Perception, when fully and unquestionably accepted, is reality. In every sense of the word, we create our own realty on the fly, in real time, simply by the decisions we do or don’t make, the beliefs we maintain, which in turn are filtered by our rigid worldview, which is then reinforced by society and promoted by what I call “bad actors”.
Our rigid worldview is reinforced and encouraged by everything we interact with on a daily basis, enabling us to grow mentally lazy and intellectually stagnant. We’re assured by science that our material world is measurable, quantifiable, consistent and stable. We’ve been assured that most of the secrets of the universe have been teased out and independently confirmed, that matter and energy follow iron clad rules of physics and the few small inconsistencies will soon be worked out, as soon as that fancy new CERN collider in Geneva is fired up and working at full power. So how do we deal with some genuinely strange (scientific) puzzle pieces that are only now becoming widely accepted and that seem to be directly related to consciousness?
For instance, a scientific experiment confirmed that subatomic particles can instantly “communicate” across vast distances. In other words, “communicate” faster than the speed of light. This flies in the face of everything we think we know and breaks every rule we’ve been taught. Or my personal favorite, the now established fact that by simply observing something, we affect it. Matter can’t be accurately measured because it’s changed simply by being observed. When we “observe” something, what we’re really doing is directing our consciousness towards it, bringing the observed into of sphere of awareness. So does this mean our consciousness is a form of energy that can influence or even change other forms of energy (matter is energy in a different form or energy state) thus bringing full circle my constant refrain that perception is reality? If our consciousness is energy, then can it be destroyed (energy and matter are never destroyed, only changed in form or frequency) can it “die” when the human body dies? Clearly this information warrants careful study with an unbiased eye. Or do we just chuck these outliers out the window and sleep better now that we’ve maintained our rigid worldview? Is this a science, physics or consciousness puzzle piece? The rabbit hole really is bottomless when you get up a head of steam.
As much as I would love to believe that there’s a magic pill or a dynamic leader or a puzzle piece of information that would change all of this if only my neighbor would swallow it, vote for it or read it, the inescapable conclusion is that there’s no magic cure in the wings, waiting to be applied to fix what is broken. However, the unraveling has only just begun and I actually possess what I consider to be a realistic expectation that this mess will not completely implode into a seething roiling fireball of destruction. How does it end? I don’t really know but I will hazard a guess sometime down the line. If we’re honest about this, we all want our baubles and trinkets and a good paying job as well. We want everything to change and nothing to change. We want our cake and we want to eat it too.
So where does this leave us? Well, depending upon your point of view, either you’ve just wasted a chuck of your time reading this or your perspective is a little bit broader than it was earlier. As I stated at the beginning, if we’re ever going to understand why we’re frozen in place while our country is carted off piece by piece, we need to throw conventional wisdom out the door and look for alternative explanations. Every time I devote some time examining this question, I find myself falling deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole. One link leads to another which leads to another which leads to another. But I do have some ideas I’d like to share with you next time.
How do you disempower a corrupt system? By empowering yourself.
How do you awaken a sleeping population? By awakening yourself.
How do you heal a toxic society? By healing yourself.
Neil Kramer
I wish to address one housekeeping item. There have been requests for me to include web links in my articles and I’ve made a deliberate and conscious decision not to. If you think about it for a moment, bibliographies, footnotes and web links are all intended to validate and legitimize the writer. All of the ideas and concepts I’ve discussed in this article can easily be found and I urge you to do so. Just be prepared to be snowed under. But I resist leaving a trail of bread crumbs for a number of reasons, one of which is primary and explained below.
There is no doubt in my mind that my biggest and most exciting discoveries and insights came from unexpected clicks of the mouse. More than a few times I’d start an evening of research with a specific subject in mind. But after a few clicks of the mouse, I’d quickly find myself deep in the weeds and far off the beaten path. I would rarely make it back to my original destination and that was just fine with me. If the reader really is interested in exploring further, the journey must be entirely yours and yours alone. I’ve found that when venturing off the beaten path (and I assure you the answers are way off the consensus reality path) it’s best if you find your own way.
My hope is that whatever you learn be yours, from your own hand, your own research, irrefutable in your mind and thus immensely valuable and indispensible to you. The purpose of the journey is not the destination but the journey itself. Each trip is unique and your experience is a product of the path you take. I’ve studied the Masters long enough to see the wisdom in their methods so I’ll simply repeat what they teach. I’ll point you in the right direction but the rest is up to you.
Stay tuned for part 2 of this exploration, coming to a theater near you.
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on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 08:40
#233817
about damn time :P however, will have to print this one out and digest it over a few days..........
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:10
#233929
I second those emotions, kudos CD...also, as we learned in 28 Days Later, Zombies much like ponzis need fresh new food to continue. Starve the beasts, in all their forms and wherever we may find them!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 08:52
#233825
Why fix the blame on 'nations' when there are real people,genuine humans with larceny for hearts, and networked computers for brains, "The Shadow Elite" who treat borders as opportunities, who have no allegiance to any country but fierce loyalty only to their known associates?
Sorry to say that Neil Kramer with this prescription for a sea-change is useless:
How do you disempower a corrupt system? By empowering yourself.
How do you awaken a sleeping population? By awakening yourself.
How do you heal a toxic society? By healing yourself.
Neil Kramer
There's a massive need for understanding that the Vote has been hijacked all over the world. In democratic countries, the will of the people, however corrupt, well-meaning, humane or lacking any compassion is now worth less than nothing, a complete waste of time.
There are groups of interconnected, international carpetbaggers with no interest in countrys' self-governance that THEY don't agree with or control outright. They are methodically elminiating the role chance plays in the operation of government.
When will all these writers wake up to the fact that their own efforts to expose a politician while somewhat fruitful are like the setting the trashcan on fire down the street from where the bank is being robbed.
Bayh resigning is"Congress is not operating as it should". He knows that Congress is superfluous, a dog and pony show for the people, ever more just entertainment for the bored waiting patiently for the next intern blowing the president or the boy toy of Barney Frank to sue him, and that those who run the world are unelected, unseen, unheard, and like stealth bombers off the radar.
Part 2 of your exploration should encompass an in depth look at the cross pollination of the networks of people, like Barry McCaffrey, who lie, cheat and steal their way to power, wealth and in the process ruin entire countries, hollowing them from the inside out.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:18
#233944
thank you for you voice anony!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:50
#234257
Politics: show business for ugly people.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:23
#234374
You put it better than I could. The vote is diluted. My idea is to concentrate aware citizens from a country on one jurisdiction [county or city] to make it a demonstration project. Ask for a volunteer city. Then have those who care [Those of the Red Pill like ZH] put it under a microscope for corruption. Burn off the fog for the local voters. If the rest of the country doesnt copy it; well at least we tried. Then we just use our water purifiers, MRE's, gold, etc. and help our own.
Between the perps and the zombies, an entire nation is hard to wake up. Ya gotta eat the elephant one bite at a time. We have lived during and benefited from the post 1945 American abundance. Now the years of famine approach. Like Paul said: ~I have learned to live with much or little~
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:06
#235226
That there are villains in this piece goes without saying. There usually are. The danger comes when you assume that all villains are in fact working in collusion, or even seeing what they are doing as being bad (rather than just "looking out for number one"). Most of the time the difference between villainy and heroism (or at least opportunism) is in the makeup and lighting. A more realistic world view is probably one where you look at the broad sweeps and trends that underlie human society and ask whether for any given actor, whether it was something special about the actor that made them pivotal (for good or bad) or was it simply a case of history needing someone to fill that particular hole.
What Cognitive Dissonance is saying here (more eloquently than I am, to his credit) is that if you want to understand why things happen, you need to get past a simplistic white hat/black hat/Illuminati view of the world and look at the broader psychological or philosophical (and there's increasingly very little distinction between these two) implications. The conflicts in the Middle East are the seismic aftershocks of the Fall of the Ottoman Empire (which was what World War I was ultimately "about"), the current credit crisis and depression has its roots in the Bretton Woods Accords of 1944 and the decline of oil globally, especially after 1971. Certainly there are people who have benefited most immediately from these events (and those that have broken the spirit of the law should be brought to justice) but if they hadn't, it would have been a different company and a different face that made the same decisions - the decisions were there to be made in that fashion.
In the long term, the 1950s corporate command and control, oil driven economy is fading away as the models which it promoted becoming increasingly cognitively dissonent to what's going on around people. One segment of the population - the egotist elite - have discovered that the models that they have used for maintaining control are coming undone, and are doing everything in their power to either fight the changes (and restore the status quo) or to cash out before the end.
The egotist mainstream, on the other hand, are becoming increasingly disoriented, and as such are reacting as you would expect - anger towards the "obvious" targets, denial, despair, depression. They are looking desparately for leaders to "make things better", and when those leaders fail, they will turn on them.
Those that are a little more in tune with their inner fugue state are quietly preparing for the worst, are exploring new models of reality, and are in many cases removing themselves from those places likely to be the flashpoints of conflict (or are positioning themselves to take advantage of that conflict to insert new ways of thinking).
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:39
#235232
Clearly the best 5 paragraph summary of the big picture I've ever seen. Bravo!
on Wed, 03/03/2010 - 06:56
#252092
i like just the last 3 (howard kunstleresque) paras coz he dont see that the ghandis, martin luther kings and alex jonses of da world are actually the heros, where as his heros are the economic heros of a marxist reading of history as inevitable economic/political rollout. where as you yourself (and I) am thinking more like well hey, i am gonna make that particle just beyond the event horizon over in hyperspace just jump out of its wits by just watching the hell out of it becoz i am open up to the spirit conscious healin forces that are those unknown unknowns of the ever hopeful.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:59
#235243
The crime is committed by the guilty, and the guiltless who can avenge it is not found. There is no fear from accuser or judge: the wicked obtain impunity, while modest men are silent; accomplices are afraid, and those who are to judge are for sale.
-St. Cyprian of Carthage, Treatise 5
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:17
#235375
let me add to what Anon. has written-will the man who's worked hard,played by the rules now put his ego in the backseat after all his money,his job/home/wife have gone? should he? or should he send an Rpg into the offices on wall st.? because,as i see it, random acts of violence against obvious guilty world destroying criminals would be more effective then an ego shift. it would do SOMETHING! we are not going to shuft into this new age love world without DEALING with the individuals/groups involved. there has to be some kind of justice first. yes, here in the States we are disimpowered, but not as (yet) as helpless as many in the third world. i don't what violent actions,but really all this "informing" the zombies is just a circle jerk. how else to you propose to resolve this?! in fact,lets your method of removing the societal ego. Nature itself dictates applying a macro level balance.you well express the mood of many,but its just another post. brian b.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 08:56
#233830
nice debut†
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:34
#233868
Thank you.
Actually this is my second ZH piece.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/end-empire-%E2%80%93-propaganda-and-american-myth
The wonderfully devilish MsCreant says I'm a long winded academic. She's correct about the long winded and incorrect about the academic.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:43
#234333
"You really don’t want the antisocial and paranoid head of security running the public relations department all the time."
This is true. Poor attendence followed by a rejection of "higher education" and associated debt has left me in the opposite state of indoctrination. Self taught and debt free. For better or worse. Time is still on my side amazingly enough.
And as a reward for rejecting the fallacies "they" ( we know who they are) tried to impose on me running PR to help obliterate that system you describe is not a job duty I am ready to relinquish. Until the zombies begin to echo the understanding of what has happened to the USA it will be a job duty until one of the acronyms takes me out (had the throw u a paranoia bone.) The tone (or toxicity) of the PR will rise with the degree of malfeasance perpetrated on our civilization (forget society...thats been long gone). Well actually the understanding of the malfeasance. The perps are long gone.
I'm guessing you won't hear me let up until probably November. Or until we see Grand Jury testimony on CSPAN. Yes Mr. President. That CSPAN. The GSE managers will all be invited...those still breathing.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:07
#234635
You had me at "conga line to hell" ...
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:21
#234969
I so agree with that! I started chuckling like hell and had a vision of all the sheeple doing the conga, following Wile E. Coyote himself.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 01:51
#235178
Thanks for your thoughtful piece. The men behind the curtain are always seeking to improve the methods of control of the collective mind. As Mohandas Gandhi said, "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." And as you wrote, it starts with opening one's own mind.
I wish I could tell you more privately, but I know no other way of communicating with you. Just wanted to let you know that the opposite of submissive is 'dominant' not 'dominate.' It bothered me (or maybe my ego) to read the misuse of the word 'dominate' (verb) in place of 'dominant' (adjective) a dozen times in your essay.
Otherwise I found your style agreeable and insightful. Look forward to reading your next installment.
-Personal Sovereignty
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:19
#235309
My apologies for the misuse of dominant. Part of the conditioned mind showing itself. It wasn't deliberate, just laziness and belief in Microsoft Word spell check. As I explained in a comment I left last week, I had a terrible stuttering problem as a child and one of the principal ways I overcame it was to visualize the word while "hearing" the word in my head, then saying it.
This brought on a host of other problems, which were never as bad as the stuttering, but which still haunt me today. Because I was "hearing" the word in my head, I was visualizing and spelling it as I heard it, thus I'm an absolutely terrible speller. Also, my spelling took on the accent of the region of the USA I grew up in, something an English professor claimed was a first in human history, a person spelling with an accent.
Anyway, when Word spell check corrected the first miss-spelling of dominant, I must have accepted one of the choices offered by Word, that being dominate. Thus it was conditioned into my mind and also now the first choice whenever spell check corrected my next misspelling, which is every time with me. I will go back and make the corrections. Thank you.
A number of people wish to communicate with me so I created a new e-mail account. I welcome your thoughts.
ZHCognitiveDissonance at gmail dot com
on Wed, 02/24/2010 - 14:44
#243662
Great read!! When does part 2 come out?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:16
#234208
why, formerly?
you got a little gonzo in you like our bro HST.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:15
#234364
I should have been more precise.
"Formerly long haired, still a hippie. Pass the bong, dude."
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:05
#234438
It would be my pleasure. However, I will set mine aside while I reflect upon your considered opinion. Thank you for this effort. Peace
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:09
#234813
That was a fun read.I particularly enjoyed the reference to the quantum mechanics observer effect.There is far more to reality and who we are than the canned programming from the matrix we reside in.
Thanks!
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 04:33
#235219
Sorry, as a physicist I have to tell you that this was the only part of the otherwise good article I really disliked, because it is simply wrong. (which is of course only my university-indoctrinated ego rejecting an unusual viewpoint ;)
This "Observer effect" puzzled me for a while when first learning about quantum mechanics. I asked myself, which level of "consciousness" is required to change the observed object (Atom, Particle, whatever)? Is it enough if a stupid person is looking? A Monkey? A Rat? A cockroach? A camera hooked up to a computer? - Does the tree falling in the empty forest make a sound, in other words.
The solution is simple. It does not matter. What matters is that the situation would be observeABLE - which means nothing more than that the to-be-observed particle interacts with other particles or forcefields (which are, but lets not go there, made of particles as well).
Think about it: to "see" somthing, it has to scatter light from a source towards your eye (or emit light itself), meaning it interacts with photons. To "hear" something it has to transfer momentum to air molecules which then impact on your eardrums etc. Our senses are physical. They work by interacting with particles which interacted with the observed object before.
To disturb the quantum mechanical state of something it does not matter if your eye, or your consciousness, or a camera are pointed towards it. What matters is that it is, for example, bombarded by photons from a lightsource, or air molecules, or that it is slowly dissolving into volatile compounds which we *could* smell if we *were* there - but it doesnt matter if we *are* there and paying attention.
So it is not that our observing disturbs a system, but that we simply cannot observe anything that is not being disturbed in some way. Important difference.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:45
#235410
I've seen this argument before and it's an interesting one. I can see I'm in over my head with regard to physics. Of this there is no argument on my part. But I think you ignore the concept that consciousness may be the sum total of all energy, that matter as it is, in whatever form, is a creation of the consciousness. You and I are talking a chicken and egg thing here. What came first, consciousness or matter? Does consciousness actually rearrange energy into forms of matter, in effect creating the world as we know it?
I disagree with your supposition. And I suspect you would never consider my point of view as valid. But that's what makes intelligent conversation wonderful. Our point of view is based upon certain assumptions. We are approaching this from different points of view. A physicist sees the world a certain way. A shaman sees the world differently. The scientific process is simply one interpretation or method by which you "see" the universe. I suspect both the shaman and the physicist can delude themselves into believing anything based upon the instruments they use to perceive the universe, so the discussion can certainly be endless.
But consider that we both can and do change our opinions based upon new information so there is always the posisbility that we both will agree on something somewhere along the line.
on Fri, 02/19/2010 - 08:35
#237371
The idea that merely observing an event affects the outcome is a dangerous one, due in part to the impracticality of it, in the same way that knowing that time is effectively an illusion as we experience it.
Time is our way of interpreting being severly limited in our access to space. One of the keys to unlocking this riddle is to make an attemp at measuring 'now'. How long is 'now'? one millisecond? 50? Does it vary from moment to moment, from person to person, from place to place? A related exercise is to draw a stickman on a piece of paper, and then draw a circle around him. He is trapped inside that circle isn't he? how disturbing it must be for him to have you then place a coin beside him in within the circle. To him it cannot be explained, understood, or reproduced. It is beyond his capacity. Fine enough for some brain damaged philosopher (I mean that in the best possible way!) to come along with his theories, but our stickman better pray to God that the philosopher is of noble intention.
Risk vs Reward to the op.
PS Looking forward greatly to part 2! :)
Thus one of the dangers of playing with ideas like the 'observer effect' is that it is beyond our capacity
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:11
#234814
Ironically when one transcends the controlling grip that fear and anxiety place at the fore of our concious experience through meditation or 'medication'... we often arrive at a place where we can momentarily free ourselves of ego. It's great therapy to laugh at oneself ocassionally.
As Nancy Reagan so succinctly put it... "Just say YES to drugs!" (Or was that 'NO'... can't remember anymore... too many drugs...)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:21
#233851
dude... my wife was nagging to me all morning
my boss stuffed my mailbox for today's todo's
I'm having a hangover as we speak
and all I wanted to do this morning was read some light stuff. Can't you summerize this in a small text? (5 words or a bit more)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:06
#234033
You're not who you think you are. Dare to explore outside the safe and known.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:14
#234818
Continue taking the blue pills
(5 words)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:29
#233858
This is an Oh! My! God! article. One of the most powerful things I've ever read.
In many ways, it is a direct reflection and validation of most of my own research over the last eleven years.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:32
#233865
Sorry...I really tried to have an open mind on this. The 10-15 paragraph preambling disclaimers led me to believe that this was going to be a very insightful piece... with sufficient nuance worthy of the need for such a lengthy introduction.
All that followed, unfortunately, was an astonishingly self-indulgent post.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:42
#233983
+1
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:18
#234727
LOL, YOU, Dan Duncan, are the subject of that piece!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:23
#234827
+1000 to all those who understand!
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:05
#235103
+10
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:35
#233867
Well, you are an excellent writer. Looking forward to additional posts.
If your objective is to have a mind continuously open and available to examine outlier puzzle pieces, that's one thing. However, "the....conclusion is that there is no magic cure in the wings, waiting to be applied to fix what is broken.." may remain "inescapable"......until it doesn't.
A little old Scottish common sense: don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
I hope your next missive addresses why we are on this planet. If matter can communicate with other matter at some distance at a rate in excess of the speed of light, shouldn't we reflect upon the purpose for still being alive? Were there no purpose, why didn't we die yesterday?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:51
#233894
"may remain "inescapable"......until it doesn't. A little old Scottish common sense: don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out."
I must remember that Scottish common sense. I was involved in a long term relationship with a Scottish woman and I must say she and her family had a very unique way of seeing the world. I learned a lot.
That's a fair criticism up to a point because the statement is out of context. I was talking about it being inescapable that the world as it is now will not be magically fixed to allow it to remain as it is now. On both a technical level (the world is constantly changing) and a philosophical level (if we accept that it is not working now, it must change in order to work) I am correct if we want change.
But I get your point about the word "inescapable" being definite and thus not flexible. I ask you to renew my poetic license. Where you stand depends on where you sit and one must make some statements in order to establish a base from which to work from. Particularly when you are writing for an audience that might not be very accommodating.
We are the insane living in an insane world. I guess the real question is how long can the insanity last?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:40
#233980
Cogn, My journey into the rabbit hole began in 1972 after reading Gary Allen's none dare call it conspiracy. literally changed my young life. then through a series of personal, professional, government contacts and contracts my education deepened. The outrage from Waco and ruby ridge, to supporting James Sanders TWA 800 and John Clarke/ V Foster, then Harold Browne (full page adds in local paper) to last years money bombs for Ron Paul. I have alienated many, maddened most, and continued to lead a lonelier life. Hope; that change could come through the Ballot box has long since been lost. One of my favorite scriptures is he who increases knowledge, increases sorrow, I know this is true. My best friend (at 25) committed suicide. This among other tragedies have taken a toll.
I appreciate the immense time and energy you put forward into this article. Very few would do the same.
I would welcome a dialog with you.
bob
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:11
#234201
Thank you for posting.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:11
#234283
I love the following quote but I don't know whom to attribute it to.
"First find yourself, then find the others."
ZHCognitiveDissonance at gmail dot com
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:45
#234401
I read the whole thing and thought it was good (and thought of Eckhart Tolle, and Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception). I did however have a near David Iche moment reading this "There are other perspectives as well (out of your dream body and into someone else’s dream body, which I find exhilarating)" Care to elaborate on this because I actually know what you're talking about as far as being able to see yourself in dreams and have occasionally been able to control my own dreams. Are you saying you've been in someone else's dreams? Shared them? Or by dream body do you mean you've dreamed of appearing as Brad Pitt?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:30
#234482
I'm better looking than Brad Pitt so maybe he dreams of being me. :>)
"Are you saying you've been in someone else's dreams? Shared them?"
Yes and yes. Is that David Iche enough for you? :>)
I was wondering if anyone would pick this up and then be brave enough to comment. I was purposely vague and incomplete because there is a limit to what most readers will tolerate before they throw out the baby with the bath water. This is actually not that uncommon when you begin to research it. I personally know a number of people that are already open to ideas such as this. And we communicate often and are aware of these possibilities, which means we would "discover" this had happened and we would understand the significance.
I suggest that many people "visit" other people all the time in their dreams. The thing is, because they aren't aware of the power they possess, the innate ability we all have, the potential to do this and so on that when we dream about this person or that person, often we never think to ask the other person questions such as "what did you dream about last night" and then connect the dots. Oddly enough, you are most likely to "visit" the people close to you, such as spouse and children. But since they would also most likely be a common theme of your dreams, you rarely ask them these questions because you expect to dream about them. Thus, when they appear in your dream (and you appear in their dream) you don't consider it unusual.
Also, shared doesn't mean that each person has the exact same dream. Far from it. Each point of consciousness (yours and the other person) has a different point of view and thus even though there are shared elements of the shared dream, that doesn't mean everything is shared. It's not two consciousness's syncing up like a modem. It's two bumping together in the dark. Sometimes they may bump but not understand they bumped. It's just not that concrete, because dreams are not constrained by the laws of the physical universe so what's happening inside the dream isn't constrained.
As I said in the article, I consider dreaming just another form or level of consciousness and awareness, a part of the totality. I could go further with this thought but your David Iche comment scares me a little. Is there a limit to what you think is possible and that the limit is crossed when you begin to hear some of David Iche's more "interesting" ideas? I'm not challenging you, just trying to feel my way around in the dark with your comment.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:58
#234560
Well, sure there is a limit... I mean I'm not going to ignore science and start believing something with no proof. That doesn't mean I throw away everything that is unknown or theoretical though. Somethings we just don't know and can't prove or disprove which I'd imagine are some of the jigsaw pieces you talked about. Years ago i started looking into the financial system and downloaded a few of Iche's lectures... about 2 hours in he started going on about the lizards. That is when I looked at the remote control and thought about throwing it at the TV - What i call a "David Iche moment". A feeling that I had been agreeing with someone for a couple hours and then they started going on about how the moon really is made of cheese, and if we could just get a cable long enough we could end poverty. I think of it as what Fox Mulder described as "fragging". I have to ask, If 2 people are sharing a dream can they communicate with each other? If one was told a number or phrase that the other didn't know could it be passed on through a dream? The movie Dreamscape - 1984? Are there any documented studies on this?
You seem way more open minded than me. For me we are all just amazingly complex organic machines developed through ages of trial and error and mutations. We are all programmed throughout life (the ego), and some of us recognize the consciousness/ego tug of war that goes on in our heads... the little voice.
"If our consciousness is energy, then can it be destroyed (energy and matter are never destroyed, only changed in form or frequency) can it “die” when the human body dies? "
I know you were just posing the question there but to me the energy is produced by neurons and no neurons = no energy. I know you're talking about a soul here but it's like saying if I take the engine out of a car will it still run? No, because the energy was produced as a reaction inside the engine, and energy usually dissipates as heat or work.
Again, I thought the article was good and thought provoking.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:47
#234935
Hey CD, you might find this interesting... 'Mind-reading' software could record your dreams.... http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16267-mindreading-software-could-r...
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:32
#235121
Remember that the brain (and therefore the mind) ceases to function without a working stomach. The energy isn't stored , it's constantly flowing.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:37
#234580
I read an article on lucid dreaming research, and a team, that was facillitating concious recognition, of the dream state, with flashing lights," awakening you " in your dream state. one of the research subjects, commented, that it was like being god, in your own world.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:50
#234992
Lucid dreaming is awesome, it is somewhat like being a "God" as you can create your universe, stop/start time, fly, walk through walls, all the while "watching" yourself and "knowing" you are dreaming. You need to get good at it to stay in the dream state however. Training your mind via meditation is necessary to get it down.
This is a superb piece CD, well done. It is the discovery of the "ego" that converted me to a Buddhist, and set me on the path of dedicated discovery into/unto the mind, Boddhisatva-hood (if there is such a word), dis-attachment from material things/from "ego"/from beliefs/from goals, and a focus merely on the present/actions in the now.
If you haven't already, I would suggest "Understanding Our Mind" by Thich Nhat Hanh. This is the best book I've read, and goes even deeper into what you are describing above. Hanh describes the "ego" as "manas", and goes into great detail explaining its relationship to the "store consciousness" and the "mind", as well as their link to the "perceptions" of touch, taste, smell, hearing, sight.The breath ties it all together.
Fascinating stuff, keep it up Buddha.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 06:44
#235257
Hominds began using fire around 1 million years ago; our human physiology, the difference between us and other african apes, is due to a million-year evolution alongside the dietary availability of cooked meat. With the fireside, comes the story, and it's reasonable to suppose that fire, language, group orgainsation and planning - and storytelling - have been part of human experience for some long period of time. Stories are narratives. Meaning, in the widest sense of meanings we attribute to things, events, places, feelings and thoughts, have no existence outside the human mind (can't say for sure about the dolphins/grey parrots/orangutangs/etc!). Narratives are the substrate, the domain, in which meaning exists; meanings are defined and communicated only through narrative. This phenomenon of narrative has the property of being shared communication. All communication ultimately makes reference, by analogy, metaphor, or comparison, with shared experience. So 'Meaning' is derived from 'communication' which stems from 'shared experience'. The sharing part is important. People who find new meanings, but are unable to communicate or share them, are left isolated. But Humans are a social species; social interaction and acceptance are fundemental and essential to the human condition (imho). This is a question I grapple with: could (non-egoic-) I be fulfilled in a way I could not share with others? Icke is brave and/or foolish enough to step out into the solitude of near-uncommunicable meanings; perhaps 'out there' he has found things resembling truths, but the long distance phone line between out-there and here limits the communication to crude metaphors. Most people would consider him insane. But this begs the question of the meaning of insanity. Apart from debilitating psychological problems, there are species of madness which are simply states of mind beyond some threshold of shared meanings, a semiotic foreignness. The natural history of 'madness' in various cultures and times and places is quite illuminating, and shows how the narrowing of acceptable viewpoints has created societal cohesion and also a caste of hermaneutic misfits ;)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:21
#234738
CD, in case you haven't figured it out yet, there are very few people who are ready for what you have written. And the reason why is what you have written. So don't expect much understanding or acceptance.
They do shoot the messengers, ya know - as you so elegantly pointed out.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:23
#233901
But there will be a spillover.
“WORLD BANK ARISTOCRACY'S FED "DEBT SYSTEM" IS COLLAPSING BUT IT CAN BE CURED WITH BOLD ACTION!
Easy way to remove "DEBT" is to remove the FED's and other Central Banks' DEBT SYSTEMS and place the functions under government control.
The fed is destroying america!
Issue a "CREDIT" currency spent into the system and backed by the FULL FAITH of the US Government to payoff the DEBTS with NO INTEREST CREDIT CURRENCY!
Lincoln did it in 1860's and it worked to avoid the massive financing of the Civil War!
We could stop the DEBT SPIRAL that benefits only the FINANCIAL ARISTOCRACY with one law:
1. Remove the FED and put functions under Government Accounting Office
2. Issue a Credit Currency and pay off the Banks with 0% money!
That easy! But Bankers K1LL for that!”
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 09:56
#233903
good article, we've followed the same path, a distinct passion for knowledge, wherever whenever
fwiw, i've been taking those thoughts and combining them with time cycles, even my own, and others, and it paints a very different picture
fwiw, awakenings happen all the time, america founded by the ADD'rs, lol, didn't concern themselves much with philosophy and for the most part it is pooh-poohed in society, yet, when you search, hmmmmmm, even those folks back 4-5k years were pretty adept thinkers
i'm not negative on the whole, i'm actually positive, yet, it will be an interesting 20 years ahead, humanity = progress, as messy as it is at times, it prevails in the long run, i don't see that changing anytime soon
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:14
#235228
Agreed on time cycles. The next 15-20 years are going to be very different from the last forty or so, quite possibly radically so. We'll see a fair amount of conflict, some of it fairly harrowing (the US and China are inexorably heading for a showdown, for instance, IMHO). Once we get past that point, though, it will be a pretty cool time to live (perhaps literally - still nervously watching the North Atlantic Gyre). Not many people can be in on the death of one society and the birth of another.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:06
#233923
Great read CD. But I do not think that everyone when hit by this info is forced to recoil from it. Personally when I started hearing about these types of ideas, things fell together, more like "Oh that really helps explain XXXXXX". But then I was brought up learning that what most people say is self service and based on lies. And I think most thinking people will agree that a great deal of effort has been made to make humanity in general and Americans in particular docile. Quite honestly when I hear about another great boondoggle my first thought is "Where is the outrage?!?".
Agree about TV, it really does seem like a drug. I have not watched TV in years and don't miss it. I didn't stop because I wanted to but because I was working to hard to have any time to watch it. That is one interesting facet. If this crisis forces people to really start working hard and they no longer have time for TV do you think that part of the control system will weaken? It does make it harder for me to relate to people, I can no longer drop to "pop culture" or what is on TV when I begin a conversation with someone.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:27
#234080
The shtf when the @15 Million unemployed run out of UE and the cable gets shut off. It will be UGLY!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:49
#234505
You must be walking around in MY dreams. My son works for Verizon and I monitor his feedback regularly for a fall off in subscribers! That is a true canary in the coal mine... We must be getting close to that event as the majority of customers about to be turned off are paying with CREDIT CARDS over the phone! Wonder how many of those payments are written off????
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:03
#235100
LOL this is such an interesting point! I can't believe I haven't seen this discussed before! I wonder where television really rests in one's hierarchy of needs?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:13
#233934
You need to take a writing course.
What you meant to say is this:
We are all delusional.
Period.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:53
#234144
Secret to weight loss.
Burn more calories than you take in with your diet on a daily basis, and physical activity a few times a week.
I should be a millionaire.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:14
#233935
A Father and Son attended a motivational seminar. The speaker ended with the phrase "99% of the things we worry about never happen." On the way to the car the Son says to the Father "see Dad worrying works."
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:16
#233939
What of the enormous egos of the political characters that dot our landscape? Are their egos misshapen, grotesque, malformed, inverted? They lie as easily as they breathe. What of the enormous egos of actors? They are seemingly, at their cores, weak and insecure. Yet they take to the stage and pretend. What are their egos made of, I wonder.
I have always (but not so much now), envied confident people who's egos seem so "healthy". I've felt weak next to their confidence. I'd go along with them, stow my doubts and let them lead. I have discovered, through trial and error, they often don't know where they are going. Is my ego asserting itself when I refuse to follow?
I look forward to more. Thank you, CD!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:11
#234360
" Is my ego asserting itself when I refuse to follow?"
in my ripe old age i've discovered intuition .it is always there ,but normally drowned out with thinking. your intuition is telling you not to follow. imho
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:42
#233946
Thanks CD , beautifully written
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:49
#234687
WTF is with all junking lately?! Most of it seems spiteful, and even worse by people who don't even have the courage or wits enough to have a counter argument. The junk option is for spammers or people who are offensively out of line not people who you disagree with. It is not a damn thumbs down.
Note to Marla: a thumbs up/thumbs down addition to comments might be good.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:56
#235000
That's kind of what this article is about. Just my avatar offends alot around here. :)
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:06
#235105
I wouldn't say that. I can barely make out what 75% of the avatars (including yours) actually are thanks to them being the size of my pinky fingernail.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 08:57
#235289
Thanks CD, beautifully written
edit:
Things are not always as they seem. In this case, I am solely responsible for the junk tag which was (rightfully) marked on my comment. My original post was poorly considered, and badly executed. The Edit command thankfully allowed me a way out, although in hindsight, I should have declared that an edit had been performed.
My apologies to all that were affected by my confusion.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:36
#233968
Very interesting read. There's a lot in there to absorb and consider more thoughtfully.
I'm not sure if I go along with the concept that perception is reality. That we affect matter by observing it. From my perspective, it starts to resemble an ego using the murky world of quantum physics to explain a narcissistic viewpoint. I control the Universe with my own thoughts. What a rush! Matter is observed by many eyes not just our own. How does matter react then? It gets kind of crazily complex.
We're conditioned to view the world through the lens of our parents. That's the role of parents. Teach the children how to survive on their own. We trust the environment we were born into. When an outlier event doesn't fit in with our conditioning, we are subjected to considerable stress. We begin to distrust our environment. A perfect environment for that ego to step into and control. Denial dismisses this threat. However, threats don't disappear when we stop looking at them. This is a rather infantile response. That's when faith steps up to the plate. The conditioning is reinforced. I will believe no matter what happens. If the distress is powerful enough and an emotional breakdown is the result and a new viewpoint needs to develop from the ashes of the old one... a very painful but necessary awakening.
Native communities are an extreme example of this dysfunction on a communty level. The collective mind is injured because the children were born into a hell, but have not been provided with the tools to cope. Their conditioning is harmful. They are at the breaking point, thus the substance abuse, violence, and suicides. This is an extreme example, but I suspect the broader world is set up for the harsh slap of reality somewhere down the road. We are not being trained to survive in a changing, threatening environment. Open mindedness, adaptability, and self reliance needs to be nurtured. This isn't being taught.
I suspect the ego that you speak of will remain in control throughout the crisis until it fails to deal with the reality of life.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:07
#234543
when we observe phenomena, we receive impressions, but we also have an emotional response, that radiates out, into the phenomenol world. that's what influences subatomic behavior.(heisenberg principle?) I read somewhere " anything the mind can conceive, and believe, can be achieved" even jesus said all it takes to move a mountain, is the faith of a mustard seed. or as the moody blues said " we're all magnetic ink". or walt whitman, something like' " what lies behind us, and before us, is far less, than what lies within us"
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:28
#235319
I do appreciate that point of view. I can't help but note that we perceive the world through our eyes and attempt to draw conclusions from that emotional point of view. I guess what bothers me about this is that we should extend that belief to other species as well since this phenomenal world was not created to serve our self interest. Does a toad radiate emotional responses to it's environment? This introspection is very ego (human) centric.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:39
#233978
Thank you CD, looking forward to more. I actually expected more criticism in the comments. Kudos to ZH readers.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:40
#233981
CD:
I come to ZH daily, multiple times, and always look for your posts and comments.
Thank you very much for this incredibly timely post. While it may seem to be "a lot to take in", we're in pretty deep and your entry deserves a careful read...and attention to any thoughts/challenges/fears/anxieties that come to the reader as they absorb the material.
I do hope that folks will begin to challenge their "beliefs" when they read that which makes them feel...and I mean FEEL...not quite comfortable. Sometimes it is the ego preparing for combat; other times it may be the rumblings of a neglected deeper awareness. Only the individual can decide...if they rise to the challenge.
If enough of us learn (through practice) to move past the fear and anxiety that make us immobile...or worse, aggress towards others...things will change. Thank you for reminding me of this, and thank you for providing this information as a stepping stone for those who wish to learn some different approaches for dealing with the mess we are in.
First post ever...no one slam me too hard...I'm a sensitive girl.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:55
#234011
Hmmmmmmmm
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 10:58
#234018
Another fun read, CD, though I confess I haven't yet completed it. I got through enough to get the flavor, however. There is one piece I question in your logic. You make it out as though there are "us" who naturally want to accept the information that "they" feed us. What about "their" conditioning? The people running these psyops, etc buy into the myth as much as we do - I would argue even more. I think Ben and Tim, to put specifics in here, honestly believe they are helping. When we go this next level away from "them" feeding "us" to "them" following their genuinely held beliefs, the world gets much murkier. It doesn't make what they're doing right or give them an excuse, but it does change our strategy in the necessary response. Thanks again! --Boris
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:23
#234069
"What about "their" conditioning? The people running these psyops, etc buy into the myth as much as we do - I would argue even more."
Agreed but one step at a time. I discussed some aspects of the MYTH in my prior article.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/end-empire-%E2%80%93-propaganda-and-american-myth
There is just so much to cover. Like dominoes, you hit one and they all scatter. How do you convey this volume of knowledge in 5 or 6 paragraphs, which is usually the maximum attention span of the average person? If I include this, I'm hammered for missing that. If I include that, why didn't I mention this? You must build the understanding as you would build the office tower, one story at a time.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:28
#234912
As you are finding out, conveying knowledge is easy.Conveying wisdom is a whole different matter!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:01
#234025
You say this is a subject, the current human/American reaction errr...inaction/response to blatant extortion and theft in broad daylight both ignored and supported by TPTB, is one that cannot be tackled shy of a dusty tome. I disagree. I also commend you for trying.
In an effort to understand human nature, and/or yourself, you have followed many trails researched long hours. Yet when push comes to shove vocalizing/writing of the truth you "know" is difficult to describe or write about.
The "truth", the real knowable truth, is inexpressable; it can only be experienced. Many have tried various ways of pointing at it though.
Here is one of my favorites...
The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin of all particular things.
Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations.
Yet mystery and manifestations arise from the same source. This source is called darkness.
Darkness within darkness.
The gateway to all understanding.
-LaoTzu, Tao Te Ching
You should watch the movie Revolver CognitiveD, you would get a kick out of it.
Truth can only be perceived in the relative world as either a question, or a paradox. Hence Zen koans, and Greek paradoxes, and labyrinths...etc...
I agree with you humanity, Americanity as well, is on the verge of evolution or failure. The window of possibility is still open, but just. Part of the evolution eventuality is ego death at a societal level. We are not our cars, or our houses, the nattering chatting machine in our heads, or any of our possessions. We are none of that and so much more. Abundance is not wrong, but helping others is helping ourselves. The society of me has to go away, if we are to go forward, bottom line. I'm not talking about communism here, but don't tell me there isn't enough abundance in our country and world to keep our fellow beings sheltered, educated, fed, and watered. There should never be a ceiling to success in this country, but there damn well should be a floor to failure and poverty.
The Bible says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It's only recently that I realized that it doesn't just mean because it's a good thing to do, it says that because an enlightened being "understood" that to help others is to help ourselves. Treat people the way you want to be treated, because they are you. Easterners have a different way of saying it. Namaste means I bow to the light in you that is the same as the light in me. Same thing, different words pointing to the same place that can only be experienced.
I would say Ghandi understood what you're trying to say as well, "Be the change you want to see in the world."
I sure hope I can start living Ghandi's quote better soon.
The world needs a whole bunch of people to realize the truth you are trying to point out CG. We need a whole lot of people doing for others, and being the change they wish to see.
Don't be scared. Do the right thing. Do what you feel should be done. I know Chumbawumba is.
Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil.
Nice to know there are people out there whose minds are moving in similar directions. Thanks for the read.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:31
#234085
"You should watch the movie Revolver CognitiveD, you would get a kick out of it."
I'm on my second DVD copy of Revolver, having watched the first copy so many times I scratched it beyond repair from mishandling it too much. Every time I watch it, I see a little bit more, in particular the more subtle aspects. One of my all time favorite "thinking" movies. Which explains why it wasn't a box office smash hit but instead a sleeper hit. Among the few, it is a "cult" classic.
I even turned my 80 year old mother on to the movie. She loves it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365686/
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:25
#234236
beautiful
live simply, so other's can simply live
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:10
#234549
One of your best Crab Cake. Thanks
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:38
#234849
So many of you are warm centers that the "lost" seek. Not everyone challenges their own thinking that they are "found".
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:15
#234030
I enjoy many of your comments on this site. Psychology is useful for a quick perspective, but to explain macro-concepts it's pretty limited. It's just another tribal method for one tribe to label the other tribe as at fault.
You're very close yet so far. You seem to associate being an outlier with being higher. This is completely arbitrary, from a certain point of view. Creating multiple consciousness perspectives is not the same as reaching a higher level of consciousness. You seem to be so tied up in your Western Psychology concepts that your mind is clouded. When you reach enlightenment it'll be like nothing else you've known; a spontaneous realization of the limits to all your previous ways of thinking. You still have not discovered your true nature. You still haven't seen beyond concepts in their whole. I know this because you wouldn't go on for 20 paragraphs from such an egotistical view point
Alan Watts was my teacher. I believe there's a bunch of his material on youtube. John Michael Greer, the Arch Druid and Peak oil writer, is the only economic commentator I've seen on the web that has reached the higher state. http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:51
#234137
Thank you for your feedback. As I said early in the essay, just because I left things out doesn't mean I'm clueless.
You are viewing this essay from the point of view of already knowing and understanding. This essay is not directed towards you. In fact, I fully understood that to those who are aware, this article will have errors galore and I was extremely concerned by this. A friend finally convinced me that you write the essay for the intended audience. I love that you have read my essay but you are not the intended audience.
No, I don't think anything that is an outlier is higher. I'm attempting to reach an audience that might not even believe there are outliers to begin with. Sometimes too much information is worse than none. I'm trying to reach those who are beginning to waken but are still extremely frightened and uncertain. I can not awaken the sleeping, only jostle those who are already coming to.
I'm trying to introduce the concept that there are alternatives to the hive mentality. Those who are of the hive, fully conditioned by the hive, know nothing other than the hive. How do you entice the hive dweller out of the hive? How do you explain the complexities of the Boeing 747 and it's engines to someone who doesn't believe you can create machines that fly, doesn't believe in the concept of machines, doesn't understand metal and rivets and fuel and so on? How do you even explain to the hive dweller what the alternative looks like except to use some of the hive dwellers own language and concepts, by which you introduce errors?
Baby steps. I'm trying. I'll make mistakes. That's OK, I'm still trying.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 02:30
#235193
+100
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:13
#234047
CD, Very brave of you to expose yourself. Thanks. "That which you believe to be true, is true, or becomes true. In the mind there are no limits." - John C. Lilly Eight words that challenge me every day to my continued frustration. Love, Patience, Tolerance, Kindness, Truth, Understanding, Praise, and Forgiveness. If you can go a whole day without violating one of those words, you're on your way.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:28
#234074
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on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:41
#234927
Remembered later on of a book that may be of interest to you in your final analysis, if you haven't read it already. "The Fourth Turning" by Strauss and Howe. Of particular interest to me were two concepts. The first was the premise of the book, in a general sense, societies go through 80 to 100 year cycles, from enlightenment to crisis. Explains why today there isn't a social movement similar to 40 years ago to many people's dismay. Second, was the quote that "a million enlightened individuals does not an enlightened society make."
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:20
#235230
I'd also recommend Fourth Turning. Seminal work.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:27
#234056
CD, I really enjoyed your essay. At the risk of diminishing your contribution, perhaps I could attempt to condense the message into a few general observations:
If we combine these three observations, we can develop a general theory that a small minority leverage their respective talents to garner the greatest number of (sexual) possessions by utilizing the most effective media to influence & manipulate society's collective schooling behavior.
If you don't want to be manipulated, discount all media, understand who/what/why is occurring, and what primordial emotions the PTB are attempting to trigger. And if you're willing to go the extra distance, realize that all history moves in cycles. We are nearing the end of one and entering another.
For those of us spoiling for a fight, this interminable waiting for Godot is the most daunting challenge of all.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:52
#235331
That is why I gave up sales. I will never make another sales pitch as long as I live. Put me under the bridge first.
Not that I think sales people are inherently evil but rather because sales is all about using knowledge about human behavior to control a persons decisionmaking. I neither want to use my powers to control nor do I want to be controlled.
Let me find something better to do with my personal power. Like teach people to expand their awareness rather than be sujugated by the ego. (Theirs or someone elses.)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:22
#234066
I chose my avatar for his dance of destruction atop the demon of ignorance and illusion, shattering the maya of our ego. Many decades beating the rushes for those pieces that do not fit, only to find out later that they were the key to another level. I've been free falling for so long, it seems more natural than having both feet firmly anchored to the ground. Luckily, those few instances when it seems I've found terra firma again, the ground gives way, and another rabbit hole appears... The gods have been kind.
That's the problem with words marching in a linear fashion down the page, it can only go left to right, not forming the multi dimensional matrix of thought. Focus on one and the rest gets fuzzy. Try drawing the beauty and complexity of a Mandelbrot set using words...language is constricting. Once your thinking breaks those bonds though, you touch that third rail you will allude to in your piece, then the complexity grows exponentially. It's a bitch..
Your ability then to relate to the world of maya becomes problematic. Speech is a little faster than the written word, but the problem persist. Words are still linear, trapped in the same mind construct. What you do convey is but the tip of the iceberg, beneath that is a kaliedoscopic world of thought. To convey all the aspects of that world becomes a monumental task. You become a loner out of necessity, though we may be great conversationalists, we are discriminating about when and where we strew pearls about the place. Pick up speed when the doors of perception are wide open and you can really play Dr. Mindfuck, no holds barred. Otherwise we do our best to operate in the dimension that is stratified and rigid, totally out of synch with the malleable transcending qualities of the mind you have cultivated. Flip the switch to the sixth neurological circuit that Leary wrote about, and you can never come home again.
Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose. So many worlds have collapsed already, another one won't faze you. So if this obviously rotten one is in its death throes, part of me will watch with fascination while the unevolved part will worry about hanging on to the necessity of putting food on the table and keeping the lights burning... We have entered Chapel Perilous before where all our fears met us with salivating, bloody maws...we'll come through just fine.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:57
#234159
good post. I have tossed pearls before swine and got my butt kicked. Responsibility in thought, word and deed is neccessary.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:28
#234307
Really? I chose my avatar because I'm a horses ass, and just proved it :)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:34
#234089
I'm about half way through, and I must say there is a striking similarity between your thoughts and those of Nassim Taleb (Fooled By Randomness / Black Swan). Very compelling, I'm savoring the read.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:40
#234097
I recommend you read "Power vs. Force" by Dr. David Hawkins.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:19
#234217
I must confess my selfish motives for writing on ZH. The comment section of Zero Hedge has always been where the real wealth and value can be found. How could I have missed David Hawkins? Actually I stumbled across his web site a few days ago during one of those random mouse click sessions I mentioned in the article.
The more I know, the more I know that I don't know. And that's just fine with me because I'll have plenty to do when I retire in a few years.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:42
#234107
"The key for those who wish to manipulate and control the population is to maintain and extend the conditioning of society. I’ll give you one guess what the principal tool is and how this is accomplished. I’ll even give you a hint; the word contains the letters “T” and “V”."
~ Cognitive Dissonance 2/15/10
Think of what we as Americans could accomplish together if we simultaneously turn this damn thing off and start thinking for ourselves!
"The conditioned mind always knows what the “truth” is..."
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:43
#234111
I think it was an ensightful way of aproaching the situations that we all seem to find ourselves in. Bravo on breaking it down to be understandable to most. My only critique is that I felt there was more build up than sustainence. This is simply as a reader taking in information. I don't claim to be a writer, or to know how best to captivate the audience.
Overall, very interesting. Understanding is key. People don't avoid touching stoves simply because it's a stove. They understand, either by training or personal experience, that there is a consequence. This consequence is then related to other similar stituations. i.e.- You don't have to touch every stove or fire just because it isn't exactly the same as the one you learned from. You manage to recognize these things by warning signs or characteristics. And are aware that the consequence remains the same. Furthermore, it is far more valuable to understand what it means to be burned rather than just knowing it can happen.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:58
#234610
we transform stumbling blocks, into reference points. a negative into a positive
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:47
#234124
Dr. Hawkins is a clinical psychologist who became enlightened. As such, his data banks are full of the information needed to communicate both the state and the path to it.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 11:49
#234130
I removed my post on noticing it was entirely ego driven. OH how smart i am. Thats the problem, we are all to smart.
I live close to my heart, watch and guide my thoughts.
One thing i would like to add that is meaningful. The most important event in my life was the day a friend asked me to listen.
Turned out theres a high pitch sound i could not find the source of. When listening with love as a mother listens for her child this sound will get louder. Twice this sound warned me of danger before it became apparent.
This sound is the making/the fabric of the universe. This sound is the way to higher conciousness . There is much to learn for those of us who realize Earth/material universe is merely a podunk way station.
AhH , now i am beside myself.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:08
#234188
'My hope is that whatever you learn be yours, from your own hand, your own research, irrefutable in your mind and thus immensely valuable and indispensible to you. The purpose of the journey is not the destination but the journey itself. Each trip is unique and your experience is a product of the path you take"
Life is Individuality. Personalized existence. Sometimes it's better to just keep it simple and you're feet rooted in time.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:13
#234204
From a psych perspective, I question why this post would ever come to be....If you were 100%, you would have no need to educate...because these ideas can't be told to people, it must be discovered to truly reach 100% status. Where behavior becomes a timeline. Why do you need the accolades of the masses ?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:16
#234209
I always love your stuff Cog! Can't wait to read the next. Thank you for your openness and bringing more light where not all flashlights have been. We are so damn lucky to have the best stuff on ZH. Now if I can only figure out how to geanie my ass out of this bottle. Note to self: Does my butt look too big? I think I'm going to need more out of body experience.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:28
#234242
"Note to self: Does my butt look too big? I think I'm going to need more out of body experience."
LOL
While you're working on the "out of body experience" try working on influencing your dreams. Once you accomplish this, anything is possible, including a smaller butt. Once you begin to understand what "dreams" are (incorect word but let's go with it) you begin to understand that we are all dreaming up this reality, our reality, here and now, in "real" time, on the fly. If this is the case, anything is possible, including a smaller butt.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:42
#234397
I will try Cog, but I quit dreaming or maybe i just don't remember them now from lack of sleep or pain or something, but I do remember a day when I did control my dreams. I now have waking dreams and the last was me controlling congress, but couldn't get back to sleep to finish the job. This could have something to do with the geanie bottle.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:07
#234886
In a prior life, I was a mathematician and learned how
to work on and solve problems in my sleep.
(prior life refers to my 20's)
Now I just enjoy flying!(but get scared when I fly too
high!)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:20
#234737
If boys are insecure about other body parts, should they avoid TM?
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:25
#234235
At the end CD, are you going to tell us what the "one thing" is? (sarcastic ref to CitySlickers)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:26
#234241
Good thinking in the article ~
A large irony is that to attempt to be "in control" the reality is, one is then "out of control." Translation: by forcing something the effect is a further loss of control. As study of adhesion vs cohesion will suffice for a sturdy metaphor for this.
Another simple truth is that to the degree we deceive others we are then "eligible" for believing the deceptions rained down upon us.
The ego is simply a name given to the originative aspect of personality - the Omniscient Quantum Bio Computer (All Mother) sits on the other side, within. The rift between is the nexus of all sorrow, wanting and frustration, for with integration of Originative and Executive components mere existence itself would persist as joy with no outside condition necessary. The inverse is the grind much of the material minded are muddled in -- hence why its not even enough to take it from pension plans and all... It wants more and more... That black hole just goes deeper and deeper -- for them.
The worst form of manipulation by far is that which we choose to do to ourselves which we attribute to someone or something "out there." Its an epidemic but its cracking...
All Mother, inbound.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:36
#234249
Unusual content for ZH.
Now I feel compelled to dig out my old Carlos Casteneda/Don Juan books. I haven't revisted them in this century.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:47
#234255
Why do we allow ourselves to be used and abused like this? Why are we spectators to our own destruction?
Speak for yourself. Here is my manifesto for healthy, debt-free living in liberty:
1) Default on your credit cards. Just wake up one day, throw them away, cut them up, do whatever you want to them, except use them. If the bills come, ignore them. When the calls start coming, ignore them. It takes months for the credit card companies to finally realize you aren't going to pay, and then they either send your account off to collections or choose to sue you in civil court to recover the debt. Either way, they lose. Both can be fought off, and the debt forever remain unresolved (by you at least).
Reasoning: Fuck the banks. They got their bailout, now take yours. They destroyed the economy, not you. Why should you suffer? Why should you continue to toil away and use your hard earned wages to pay off debt that has already been covered by the taxes you have, are, and will pay, not to mention the taxes that your children will pay, and theirs? (Or not, see #2) Default and forget about it. The consequences will be dealt with, but not by you if you play the game well.
2) Don't pay your taxes. Dealing with the IRS is not nearly as daunting as people think it is. They have no real power. The control they seemingly have over your life is what YOU afford them. Literally. There is a way out of the life sentence of Federal taxation. Your "Social Security Number" is your mark, a mark of the beast. You don't have to be religiously dogmatic to accept or even understand that term. When you are reduced to a number in the eyes of government beauracrats you are stripped of your humanity. To them, you are merely a wealth production engine to be hijacked and exploited. Reclaim your humanity by declaiming your SSN. The IRS, being a leviathan, is slow moving. They will eventually catch up with you, but it will take probably years. In the meantime, you will have embarked on a jihad to eliminate the chain that binds you to the State: your mark of the beast. Yes, you can rescind your SSN, and thereby break the contract between you and the Federal Government that you were ILLEGALLY entered into as a minor.
Reasoning: The IRS is a sham. It's a front group for old-money elites who were none too happy about the scrappy little New World declaring independence for itself. Their plan was to eventually steal back the wealth machine that was ripped from their grimy clutches when they decided their cut wasn't big enough and those pioneers in America weren't paying enough tribute. But let's say you believe in paying your fair share of the nation's expenses. To that I can only shake my head. Did you want a bridge to nowhere? Did you agree to give Congress all the free health care and other benefits they vote for themselves but deny to you? Did you start those 3+ wars raging on endlessly and pointlessly, draining our nation's wealth and destroying the lives of fellow citizens, not to mention the human target of our (and by your contributions, YOUR) illegal wars of aggression? Did you really want to give those bankers a bailout so that they could be made whole on their stupid bets while you lived the life of a pauper? If the answer to any of this conjecture is "NO", then why are you contributing to something that not only did you NOT want, but that is effectively causing you harm by draining money and resources that could be put to much better use while engendering the hatred and antipathy of literally billions of people around the globe? You are a Human Being. Your labor, your productive capacity, is YOURS. It is your means of sustaining your life function on this mortal plane. That someone else can insist that they have a right to insert themselves in between you and your own productive capacity and siphon off a portion for themselves to pay for things that you don't want or need is preposterous. If you choose to be a member of a society, paying your fair share to run that society is fine, but NOTHING MORE, and one should never be forced to pay for anything they don't want, and under no circumstances should you ever be required to pay for your own enslavement.
3) Fight EVERYTHING. Traffic tickets, fee hikes, tax increases, fines, levies, assessments, etc. Question ALL OF THEM. Write or visit the agencies imposing these taxes and fees and demand that they justify it. Require them to point out the law that proffers the authority to collect such fees. Make it hard for them to collect. If it costs more to collect money than the money they are collecting, they'll perhaps reconsider the graft and waste that accounts for most demands of payment from government.
Reasoning: Most of the money extracted from government at all levels is not only superfluous but excessive. The government, broke, and instead of cutting costs like everyone else has to, will use every manner under its purview and more to commandeer more and more wealth out of the productive members of society to pay for increased expenses brought on by the fraud and waste of government itself, not to mention unproductive gluttonous louts who feel it their right to live off your labor and toil. Don't let government take for granted that you will be sending them money. Force them to not only justify their bills but also make them come after you to collect it.
4) Close your bank accounts and your investment accounts, including IRAs, 401Ks, etc. They are false representations of wealth. They are merely digits in an accounting mechanism, nothing more, nothing less. On the other hand, these devices give your captors incredible power over you. Don't do what they tell you to do? (see #2) This is how they'll bring you to your knees: with your money. Don't let them. Don't give them that power. Close your accounts. Go to a cash basis. Use money orders to pay bills. Consider getting a PayPal account that you keep anonymous (i.e. use a fake name and address) to pay for items and services online. Many businesses accept PayPal payments, which makes it convenient for paying regular bills that otherwise would be difficult to pay in cash. So where do you put your money? See #5.
Reasoning: Money is one step above barter. Instead of trading your goods or services for goods/services from someone else, your money is a medium of exchange. If someone controls your money, they control you, or at least your ability to conduct commerce. Your bank accounts are traction points for your enemy to control you. You must, then, shed any points of leverage that attacking entities may have against you. If they can't seize your assets, they can't control you.
5) Gold bitches. I'm serious. Gold and silver is money. It is REAL money. It is something of value, as ascribed by others in your shared human ecology. Gold and silver metals are useful and therefore desirable. It is their utility (as well as other critical attributes) that confer upon them value. More importantly, gold and silver (and anything tangible) have no counter party of interest. When it is in your hand, it is yours. Paper money, on the other hand, is not wealth. It is merely a claim on wealth. Paper dollars are a claim on tangible things that you actually need and use. A paper dollar in and of itself, stripped of the confidence that gives it value, is not useful for much of anything.
Reasoning: People are losing confidence in their governments. Governments have become largely unresponsive to the needs and demands of the humans from whom their power is derived (more on this below). Once confidence in governments wanes far enough, this crisis of confidence will begin to affect the currencies issued by those governments. For it is merely our confidence in the government and that alone which gives paper or digital money "value". It is the promise that those pieces of paper or ephemeral digits can and will in fact be redeemed for objects of actual, tangible value that makes it money. Confidence is the essence of value of fiat money. If a fiat dollar has no confidence, it has no value.
Please consider:
GOVERNMENT POWER IS DERIVED *FROM* THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.
I wrote that phrase in a very particular way to highlight three words that are important to understand what this really means. The power the government has over you is what YOU give to them. Their power is YOUR power. It is the power that YOU as a Human Being inherently own. You are LENDING a portion of YOUR power to the government that YOU erected in order to maintain the functions of a collective society according to YOUR wishes. In other words, you LEND this power to a government of YOUR making and CONSENT to their exercising that power for the collective good.
HOWEVER, once confidence is breached and the government transforms from a power derived by your consent to an overbearing would-be master of all, it is your right, it is your OBLIGATION, to remove that government by RESCINDING YOUR CONSENT. If you do not consent, you do not lend your power to government, and that government MUST dissolve.
It is really as simple as that. At least in words. The real struggle is fought with physical forces, whether it be the sound waves that form the words you utter in assertion of your rights or the kinetic force of an extended fist, or a projectile.
Remember: YOU have the power. You ARE power. But that power will only have impact if you exercise it regularly.
I am Chumbawamba.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:16
#234724
And I am glad you are.
I am Miss Expectations.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:31
#234884
What would Yin be without Yang? Mr. Hyde sans Dr. Jekyll. Chums absent Cognitive Dissonance? Vice without Versa? The bite and the bark? The venom and the rattle?
The raw delicacy I have beheld today is of the most sweet substance.
May I humbly provide a few actionable terms, books, and links to Google/ponder:
Much more out there. Examine every angle. Thank you, Chums. Thank you, CD.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 12:56
#234265
Nice read CD--- perhaps the western world should take up the Bhagavad Gita which would steer them to vedanta philosophy.
Perhaps the hardest thing for the average individual is to realize who or what the great Universal Scheme of creation is. Man cannot escape the ultimate unity between himself and the universal system(Universe) for he is part of the system wether he thinks that or not, similar to written knowledge--it is not what man studies but how he Studies--not what we know about a thing but what we know of it that makes the difference . The people of the Western World in their attempts to solve the riddle of life yet have come to an absolute conclusion in its hypothesis or theories (Science of the Western World).The Western World has progressed to the point where they know the existence of certain determining factors but they never go directly to the simple denominator of ONE PRINCIPLE when handling fact. Eastern philosophy has always based their premise upon one Natural Fact or the Quantum Theory.
The crux of the whole matter is having right knowledge--what currently resides as knowledge is past while the true basis for knowledge is to know the motivating force and the ends toward which it moves--the motivating force of the Universe that brought all things into existence in the beginning will bring all things into being in the end.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:46
#234336
"Man cannot escape the ultimate unity between himself and the universal system (Universe) for he is part of the system whether he thinks that or not, similar to written knowledge--it is not what man studies but how he Studies--not what we know about a thing but what we know of it that makes the difference."
I can't remember where I read the following or even if I'm remembering it correctly. But it seems to sum up your sentiment.
"Man will do just about anything, including the most absurd, to avoid looking within."
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:01
#234532
Man will do just about anything, including the most absurd, to avoid looking within."
CD-Never spoken so true-man must simply enlarge his mind and outlook on life to fully understand his true purpose. Each mans nature in one way or another is associated with the life and well being of every other individual in this universe and what affects one must in some degree affect the rest (as we witness history-crash of our financial system).
Often the influences working in Universal ideas come into being without much notice. It is something that seems to germinate and move forward as a contagion while the minds of many are so engrossed in other things (To use Jim Sinclairs term MOPE) that they do not notice the change hence the slipping into the new order rather unknowingly. My point is to be alert to these secret-ly developing forcast's that are in the race and there one will find the key to his or her most rapid progress and vital service to this Universe.
The western world has yet to learn that the true miracles are always worked out in silence first. Gandhi is one principle as he went among the untouchables-- is there such a principle in the modern Western World???
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:00
#234267
Want to develop an open mind? Just try to think why something you hear or observe may be true. Under certain assumptions, something may appear to be true. Under other assumptions, that same thing may appear to be false.
That's right. The same observation may be both true and false. It just depends on the assumptions you make.
Example:
A former friend of mine related this story to me. A professor was teaching his college students, and he mentioned that something was true, as sure as the sun rises in the east every day.
So he raised and his hand and responded to the professor: "The sun doesn't rise. The earth rotates."
Have fun with the idea that you can figure out why the other person may be right. It's a mind opener.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 06:36
#235256
"Beware when the great G-d lets loose a thinker on the Planet, then all things are at risk."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
World Peace 2050 anyone...
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:48
#234337
lol, TV, i wrote a book in 95 on it's influence and destruction of idea's
imho, you need too be congizant of the strengths and weakness's of things
one could say TV brought down the soviet union, once they saw news reels of how well we lived, they were like WTF?
TV is really a different form of communication which is the core of belief systesm
i really liked B9K9's synopsis
for those who like to click, check out, Transference, in simple terms we learn a map of the world in childhood that works great in our family and environment until it don't, and then what, well, that's the crossroads for the enquiring mind, for most they avoid or deny, compete or learn and grow
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:56
#234345
RE: Dreams. Mugwort will let you dream like a sumbitch!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 13:56
#234346
"Discourse of Voluntary Servitude" by Etienne de la Boite
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 23:59
#235099
+1. Once more trav has provided an excellent link. Thanks
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:45
#234402
when you remove yourself from yourself , then you have yourself.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 14:58
#234419
Once the Hadron squirts out a Higgs Bosun, then You Will Know.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:08
#234443
this awareness you speak of and its accompanying journey must become racial in nature. of course that is the dirty little secret that no one wants to discuss because for the longest time, we have been programmed to not dare discuss it in really meaningful terms. they say that in about 50 years the white western european man wlll be extinct. is this a good thing? i say it is not. we have been told that diversity is good and makes us strong. this simply is not true and the ones who cause this immigration to this country know this full well. they know full well, that if the sheep ever wake up, they will be stronger if they are of one race, and one mind. but with multiple races pulling in various directions, what will happen, will be a race war and this is what they want. while they sit and laugh at us, we fight among ourselves. is it any wonder why the borders of this country are more or less open and have been for a long time? why is that? to destroy white western european centric culture that was with the foundation of this country and is still here but is dying. with its death, the new world order will have no enemies in its way to maybe, just maybe defeat it. for you see, they fear the white western european man, for we are the only ones that can and will stop them. so they dillute the race, they destroy the culture, they introduce abortion so that our women will kill their own children, they constantly show interacial dating and gay stuff on television. this destroys the morals of the nation. and of course, gay people have no children, so mission is accomplished. all the while they sit and watch and plan on a multigenerational basis. as one generation dies, another is already ready to take its place. it has been this way for a very long time. television is a major, major mind control instrument and always was. now they are using digital transmissions. no telling what kind of subliminal stuff is in that signal. meanwhile johnny is back at the ranch, dating a black girl and they are madly in love, no matter that they are totally different and have totally different ideas about everything but someone said that it was good to date other races. so they do. and they have children that look like obama. for you see, one day, they want one race outside of their own. that race will be the mud race. the slave race. for you see, in that day, anyone that is not white(which is what they are visually but not racially) will be a slave with a number and will be easy to spot when they move around. and so it will be unless we stop it. when people talk of revolution, don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone will be on your side. it will not be that way. it cannot be that way. it must not be that way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRdQEfSUCc
The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look at it without doing anything.
Albert Einstein.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:03
#234706
I post about these issues all the time. I think more and more white people are coming to the same general conclusion.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:46
#234786
there is only 1 race of humans (the human race) which is why we are able to breed between cultures.
also, if you look closely their are no white , black ,red or yellow people at all. each person is their own unique colour.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:43
#234930
Bunk. Like it or not, every race - except whites - is now practicing vicious, group entitlement politics. And we hear no complaints from the ZOG media....except when whites do it. Then the braying about "racism", and "we're all the same" begins. No surprise: it is anglo-saxon race-consciousness, nationalism vs. Jewish collectivist-universalism, that is going to stiff hypercapitalist globalization. Just as it stiffed the previous Jewish attempt at globalization via universal communism.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:22
#234908
I let Bob do the talking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 22:07
#235019
What life has taught me
I would like to share with
Those who want to learn...
Until the philosophy which hold one race
Superior and another inferior
Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned
Everywhere is war, me say war
That until there are no longer first class
And second class citizens of any nation
Until the colour of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes
Me say war
That until the basic human rights are equally
Guaranteed to all, without regard to race
Dis a war
That until that day
The dream of lasting peace, world citizenship
Rule of international morality
Will remain in but a fleeting illusion
To be persued, but never attained
Now everywhere is war, war
And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes
that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique,
South Africa sub-human bondage
Have been toppled, utterly destroyed
Well, everywhere is war, me say war
War in the east, war in the west
War up north, war down south
War, war, rumours of war
And until that day, the African continent
Will not know peace, we Africans will fight
We find it necessary and we know we shall win
As we are confident in the victory
Of good over evil, good over evil, good over evil
Good over evil, good over evil, good over evil
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 07:44
#235273
So let me let this straight; you recommend homophobia and inbreeding?
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:56
#235342
Um, ok Charles Manson. Who exactly says the white European man will be extinct in 50 years? Really, in two generations we will all be the same color? If you believe that, I'm not sure what to say.
Your rasicm, fear and ignorance is really sad.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:47
#234502
Great article CD and worth the wait...
"If our consciousness is energy, then can it be destroyed (energy and matter are never destroyed, only changed in form or frequency) can it “die” when the human body dies?"
I've often had the same thought about death... everything observable in the universe exists in a continuum of time, changing forms, but continuing to exist. Even stars when they explode form nebulas - so it's hard to believe, in view of this fact, that our consciousness simply ends... "to sleep, perchance to dream..."
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:53
#234517
Thanks for the post, I look forward to future installments. It is unfortunate that so few people will read and understand this piece. Our lives are controlled by those organizations society has deemed worthy. Too bad that society didn't peer deeper into the motives of the "organizers".
All of my children have been taught to question, to ponder, to look beyond the obvious and reach for meaning even if it didn't fit with socitey's view. Even my 12 year old understands "perception equals reality."
We homeschool the younger children now. It's easier to teach learning and to search and find truth from our home than to meet regularly with "frustrated" teachers who have been questioned.
Watching my children analyze TV advertising is more fun than I ever imagined.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 15:58
#234523
You mentioned hundreds of library books--I'm looking forward to more historical comparisons etc. in the next piece.
On evolution: I've become convinced that the human race is hung up on/at the tribal level of evolution. Us vs. them. It enables the collective and group-think. It validates ego decisions too readily. It empowers tribal leaders.
Perhaps the future of human evolution will be back to the one and forward to the all. If we get the chance.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:03
#234536
On some days, I get a little better.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:59
#234613
" " bitter.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 01:09
#235147
better, better, better!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:18
#234555
CD, we find that Me, Myself, and I are 3 people with different ideas, well worth listening to. They make a good beginning board of directors. They do need input from the
Spirit world though.
To distill your post "We aren't in Kansas anymore."
Along comes Avatar and takes everything you have said here and delivers it in 3D with fantastic visuals and mind blowing music on an IMAX screen and millions of people world wide are getting the download and are starting to talk to one another and think about things they have been ignoring for years.
The new thing always enters incogneto where you least expect it. Who would have thought I would find this much deep psychological introspection on a financial web site? And who would have thought that this group is talking about the same stuff the Avatar people are. Goddess works in strange ways.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 01:11
#235150
"Goddess works in strange ways."
indeed...she is a mysterious beauty and/or a beautiful mystery
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:48
#234592
CD - Great article. Can't wait to read part 2!!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 16:53
#234602
Thanks for your efforts. I am looking forward to your next part. I'm afraid my ego is unhappy with u, for calling it out.
It seems it likes the shadow, and would rather not been called out. I WILL look for it and for your next post.
Refreshing tks
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:12
#234641
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nas-DYEywX4
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:43
#234850
nice... how about this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ZIPKxqdKA
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:54
#234994
Excellent. Realizing that there are chains of a sort is only one of many steps.
Give me leave to rail at you,
I ask nothing but my due:
To call you false, and then to say
You shall not keep my heart a day.
But alas! against my will
I must be your captive still.
Ah! be kinder, then, for I
Cannot change, and would not die.
Kindness has resistless charms;
All besides but weakly move;
Fiercest anger it disarms,
And clips the wings of flying love.
Beauty does the heart invade,
Kindness only can persuade;
It gilds the lover's servile chain,
And makes the slave grow pleased again.
John Wilmot
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:37
#234677
I think your article is thought provoking. The follow-up challenge as you rightly state is in what to do about it. Wisdom comes in not only describing a problem but in the resolution through the exercise of "Experience" be it individual or group actions. Our country has been lucky in that crisis has not always meant explosive revolutions; 60s (1860's and 1960's)are examples of the opposite. Sadly though, conditioning as described by your article can only be change with a significant crisis situation; IMHO. What happened in 2007 in the financial market should have been enough of a crisis but maybe not. So what do you think would be a significant crisis to challenge and break the current conditioning for individuals and our country? We have been lucky in previous periods of time of great change but to rely on luck is a fools game.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 17:58
#234700
Eh, it wasn't THAT long of a read. :)
Kudos, CD, and true to your screen name. I have a Psychology background, and have been on the same path of discovery and self-awareness over the past decade. I am energized by the insight of your thoughts, and hungry for more.
It's just a slice of the larger pie, of course, but an important one. Only once we really understand ourselves and why we think/do/say as we do can we hope to rise above to a higher consciousness and an ability to think more critically about more complex questions.
Keep it coming. There are at least some of us on ZH that appreciate the insight and change of pace!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:03
#234708
Enjoyed reading this, thanks. Incidentally, an earnest Buddhist knows this from early on in the practice. I suppose that's why it's called the 'science of the mind'. We learn to recognize the ego for what it is (the bilge pump operator), and to awaken the higher self (higher mind, conciousness) to let it captain the ship.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:06
#234710
Outstanding! It's because of articles like this that ZH is becoming my favorite site on the web.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:18
#234726
Another reason why folks choose what they choose is that there is not, as of now, a practical alternative with a realistic path to implementation.
And folks "perceive" that.
So they look for at least a 51/49 split in their favor and in favor of their loved ones from what they cannot change and from that which offers no practical alternative at this time.
When that changes, they will change and if not... then some introspective analysis is in order
Just another simple way to look at it.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:19
#234731
Spot on.
Jung would argue that the negative ego's fear of dismissal does much more that color perception.
He, and others would argue that Ego, fearing banishment to the bilge pumps, would make sure there is ALWAYS an iceberg on the horizon and a case of norovirus breaking out.
Ever notice how some people always manage to manifest some sort of crisis in their lives? That's their Ego making sure it is always fully in charge.
Ever notice how some people (they would not say conveniently) get some rare illness or develop some exotic food allergy at the same time their lives are not living up to their expectations? That's the EGO making sure it's in charge and giving a convenient excuse to life's goals not being fulfilled....while their ego is in charge.
Is this pissing you off, screaming for dismissal of this message? That's your EGO not wanting you to get the slightest grip on it.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:37
#234766
what a waste of time - get to the point! truth is always simple and easy to understand - you think too much of yourself....
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:46
#234784
+1000, gotta confront that shadow archetype or it will manifest itself in neurosis...
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:49
#234790
or even physical disease.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:53
#234796
spot on mate ;-)
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:34
#234758
what a waste of time - get to the point! truth is always simple and easy to understand - you think too much of yourself....
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:37
#234764
Excellent read CD, always enjoy your insights... This is what I have come to love most about ZH and which assures me that the world will not be ruled by the tyrannical in the future, and thus will not need to be ruled at all...
As the world changes before us, in ways most people cannot yet recognize or even imagine but will be forced to confront, self analyzation will become a common and critical personal objective in the new age, leading to true self realization that will change the world in ways we never imagined possible.
Once again our world will die and be born again, only difference this time is that for the first time, its global... The constant cleansing and improvement of all things by death and rebirth is knowledge never shared by a single, modern and global civilization. It is the search for inner knowledge and truth that will become the foundation of the new, now emerging world.
To quote Nietzsche;
"All great things must first wear terrifying and monsterous masks in order to inscribe themselves on the hearts of humanity"
I don't think I need to describe the form of this "terrifying and monsterous mask" that is now staring directly in the face of a largly unaware and frightened humanity.
But to those who realise this basic truth and who choose to stare back, the face behind the mask will be revealed and you will see the new and better future...
Don't fight the changes ahead folks, those who fear and cannot accept our collective evolution will not survive (in the spiritual sense but possibly in the physical too haha)
"Find yourself first, and then your tool... Find yourself first, don't you be the fool". Hendrix...
And yes, I probably smoked pot and wore tye died shirts in my last life too haha, just kidding (about the shirts) ;-)...
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:40
#234772
Human beings from birth go through various stages of self actualisation depending on the conditioning received and environment presented. As we take in new information via all the senses we need to process, sort, measure, filter and prioritise the information we receive. Some people are able to absorb more information than others depending on a number of factors. There are cognitive checkpoints which people reach at various life stages depending on their courage.
There are various awareneness/healing stages in life...
An infant is born pure, innocent and free.
Repeated sexual traumatisation between the ages of three and half to eight years of age leads to a shattering of consciousness and memories are repressed.
People become unaware that they are unaware. They will however seek safety and opportunities for healing and self-actualisation at all costs. The pace of their healing will depend on their courage, support network, faith and ego strength.
Some people become aware that they are unaware and seek more knowledge about their lives and why they think, do and feel the way they do.
True seekers become aware that they are aware and re-integrate their worldview and identity constructs. A new level of mindfulness is established.
Super sages, like Jonathon Livingstone Seagull, Moses and Joseph then study more and decide how best to assist their fellow travellers.
The vast majority of people never get beyond the searching for safety/unaware that I am unaware stage. They choose to remain in denial and not expand their minds. As T.S.Eliot stated “People cannot handle too much truth and reality”. Just as there is a time/space/money/resource matrix on the Planet so there is a wisdom/consciousness matrix. What is fascinating and invigorating is that G-d always makes sure that wisdom flows through the zeitgeist to most righteous of an age. He needs these tzaddiks to hold the very fabric of the universe together.
Adam Neira
Melbourne, Australia
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:42
#234775
what a waste of time - get to the point! truth is always simple and easy to understand - you think too much of yourself....
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:46
#234788
Brilliant CD!
Thanks for expending the time and effort that went into creating this voyage of self discovery for us. You never quite know how these things are going to turn out sometimes... fear no more! Kudos!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 19:25
#234831
I tend to find that your posts are steeped in the so-called Paranoid Style and while I often disagree with your prognoses I am always enthralled by your analysis.
This particular one I find of great interest. That part of the human psyche is capable of resisting change and obfuscating reality is of particular importance to me as I feel I have been working through a discoordination, of sorts, in my own perception of my...perception and it has been rather jarring. While I believed I was coping in a healthy way your words have given me confidence that I am on the right track in dealing with my new perspectives.
Excellent post. Consider me thoroughly intrigued.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:43
#234931
"I tend to find that your posts are steeped in the so-called Paranoid Style and while I often disagree with your prognoses I am always enthralled by your analysis."
I've never see this term and I don't want to assume anything regarding it's definition. Would you be so kind as to describe what you mean by that. I think I understand but I'm always open to see the world through other eyes.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 02:02
#235182
When applied to history and/or current events it is a perspective that views the end results of a particular event or period in history as deliberate in that they are the intended consequences of individuals in a position to shape the actions resulting in, and in response to, the event/period in question.
Stated broadly, it's how conspiracy theorists link a bunch of events together and claim that it was a mastermind behind the whole thing.
I also wish to put emphasis on my use of "often". I do sometimes find your views quite to-the-point and my intent is most certainly not to paint you as a kooky conspiracy theorist. After all, we are discussing the current state of economics where intervention and masterminding is the name of the game. Again, please continue your excellent contributions.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:20
#234902
A helpful and effective post. It fairly suggests a handling of the human condition that glorifies confusion, lies and "clever strokes" which constitute the very essence of theft, swindling and all sorts of similar anti-social deeds.
As you infer much improvement lay in the path of sorting-out our selves and our baggage of unworkable views that often operate on "automatic" because they are uninspected, even unsuspected.
A way must be found to spot and handle unworkable fixed-ideas that degrade our condition and fight improvement.
The way certainly involves more understanding and fewer of the mis-leaders and mis-directors that spread confusion and fear and herding.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 20:22
#234906
I tend to overthink and sometimes overworry.
I have found that getting outside, planting a garden, building a campfire or fishing really helps.
We are designed to be much simpler, calmer creatures. Take up woodcarving or sheepherding and get out of your head.
It will be about community, skills and the ability to take all the g-forces coming our way. Don't replay all the possible scenes in your head, it will fatigue you.
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 22:11
#235021
An excellent point that needed to be said. Worry and self awareness is a curse sometimes. We should all have our Walden Pond to keep us rooted. I feel most at peace when I'm immersed in a simple endeavour that engages my attention outward.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:57
#235346
+ 1000
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:23
#234972
CD...i read this on and off all day.
You have a masterful way with words. Please keep writing and thank you for this extraordinary effort. Well done!
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 22:17
#235029
Hey CD,
Nice post, kind of a leg up for Mr. & Mrs. John Doe but I found the length only affected by the wordiness of your supporting examples, often times your points and references seemed fine but overly drawn out ...
Also I was sort of distraught when you chose to cite a principle of physics (quantum spooky action at a distance) as if it were relevant or substantive to support anything herein. Let science be science and speak from authority without a need for interdisciplinary support else I feel you risk losing authority for want of a title.
Lastly, I rather enjoyed your lead in about the multiple dimensions or perspectives of the ego viewed from the 'self' but was surprised by your broad brush comment on hallucinagenics, drug use, etc. which seemed very 'conditioned' imho. Might want to revisit that topic from your 'self' after rereading some huxley and erowid.org personal accounts. Imho hallucinagenics are simply poision used to affect the sensory baseline or remap the sensory range that the 'self' needs to assert itself into 'reality'.
Again, good post, nicely sophomoric, hope to see your next soon, Sincerely,
Joe Schmoe
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 23:37
#235091
Bravo. Excellent piece. What a relief!
For the past year or two, I thought I was the one going mad and society was sane. Silly me!
Basically, it comes down to:
"to think for oneself and to make your own decisions...oh, and turn off that damn TV!"
Looking forward to the next piece.
Peter
on Wed, 02/17/2010 - 23:38
#235092
Hmmmm, the lip of the volcano. PEEK!
Psychology has, thankfully, not become a science. It would be dreadfully misused if it ever did so. Currently it's more like a set of parables or frameworks. We all have to struggle with language to find a platform for communal sharing of ideas. The Tibetan Book of the Dead? Man And His Symbols? Fight Club?
Portions of psychology are, however, very potent. The psychology of influence and advertising, now used with devastating effect in political life especially here in the US since 1980...the science of perception, the pharmacological and neurological strands that have often appeared dominant, only because they have empirically testable results, have tended to obscure the fact that there is no science of mind.
Are we losing the ability to think critically as a society? Are we losing the war of Maslow's hierarchy of needs? If we don't have security, peer approval, a job, can we (or many people in society) be expected to pursue such things as self-awareness, self-actualization as Maslow put it, or even simply to bother to try to follow the clashes among elites and organizations in the current Clusterfuck of Titans?
Or is the Internet and the onrush of technology and time and population creating more critical mass, a smarter society, a more aware populace? Can't we have both dynamics going on at once?
In John Brunner's The Shockwave Rider, wisdom is defined as the quality of being able to know the right course of action in an unprecedented situation. I believe there is such as thing as wisdom, and that critical systems in global society are currently blind to it, if not actually hostile.
Our future depends on fighting against the elements in the system, notably corruption and concentration of power, that are preventing wise, human, compassionate control over objectified organizations, be they corporate or statist.
And it can start in each one of our infantile yet infinite psyches.
Carry on! Pip pip!
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:05
#235102
I’ll quote my all time favorite line from the movie “Starman”.
Personally, I was always partial to "Red light stop. Green light go. Yellow light go very fast."
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:12
#235107
CD, I read the entire thing and was mesmerized. I have not read all the comments but scanned a few. Many people missed the entire point. The ego directs our understanding unless we train ourselves to step back and observe. I once attended a session where we spent the afternoon practicing "observing ourselves." I finally asked the question, if we are observing ourselves then who or what is doing the observing?
The instructor clapped and said, "you got it." I said, "I got what?" She replied that the observing self is the "real self" and the observed self is the psuedo-self or ego. I then asked her, "how do you know?" She was stumped at that point.
I majored in Psychology with a minor in Philosophy in college. I used to argue with my professors who insisted on taking a completely scientific approach to psychology - particularly to perception. I nearly flunked "Visual Perception" and "Experiemental Psychology" until I designed an experiment to actually test (rather crudely but it was a good effort) for the effect of programming on learning and perception.
I have cut and pasted what you have written to a document so that I can read it again. The trick with something like this is to let it percolate and not analyze. It loses its power when analyzed. As you said, reading cannot help but open ones awareness - if you can get through it. I wonder how many people stopped after the first paragraph.
Thoughts, hopes, dreams - everything the human mind can do is power. Those that use those powers to control us have overreached. They have, by the fault of their own faulty egos and perceptions, underestimated the human spirit and its full power when unleashed by the "Great Spirit", "God" the "Collective Unconscious" or whatever name you choose to apply. They always have and they always will. They refine their powers but we continue to escape.
The world and the people in it are evolving. They cannot stop that anymore than they can stop the universe from expanding. The soul seeks freedom and one of the powers of expanded consciousness is intuition and intuition tells us, even if the ego lies, that we are still not free. But we can be and we will be.
We will evolve. We must evolve. Throw off the shackles of the narrow minded egocentric soul. Both ours and theirs. But as you say, first ours.
Thanks for such an enlightening and bold writing. I feel both more uneasy and safer knowing there are more and more people who not only think this way but are willing to say it.
Beware the black and the white, the good and the bad, and the right and the wrong. There may be absolutes but they are most likely not discoverable in this existence - in this life. Perhaps in Heaven.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:15
#235112
That was excellent. It was like a summary (if not a bit longer than the one in my head) of the questions/experiences/discoveries I've asked/encountered over the last several years. I'm glad you had the fortitude to actually commit it to paper for the benefit of us all. And cheers to you for going on this journey with the not insignificant delta in the equation of raising children.
And did I detect a little Jane Roberts influence in there or was it just the universal 'truthiness' of the concepts shining through?
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:57
#235242
This is what I love about the comment section. More stuff to explore, like those random mouse clicks I talked about but others are clicking for me.
This is the first time I've heard the name Jane Roberts but after a few quick clicks, I assure you it will not be the last. The Seth Material looks very interesting.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:52
#235337
I think "the Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane Roberts is the most important book I ever read. Start out with that one.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:19
#235113
Constipated, vacuous psychobabble wedges, served alongside a main entrée of narcissism, garnished with a heaping helping of hot air… particularly ironic due to the author’s ostensible theme, ‘self-awareness’, and his use of the term “zombie”.
One can only wonder whether this is the result of some sort of ZH “affirmative action” program for autistic “contributors“.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:03
#235354
^^ Thanks for providing us with a wonderful example of the rigid and pedantic ego.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 14:39
#235830
Mom, you promised you'd stop leaving nasty comments below my articles if I lifted the restraining order. I lifted but you haven't stopped. Expect to hear from my lawyer and the prosecutor. You do remember you're on probation, right?
What did I ever do to you other than give you stretch marks?
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:26
#235118
I appreciated the great effort you put into your article. I would like to suggest another contemplation which you might find interesting.
It is likely not possible for us to step aside and observe ego's functioning. It may appear to us like we have separated "ourself" from that object we are arguing with, want to fuck, or are ignoring, but we haven't really. That thought too is a trick of ego. It allows us to feel like there is some hope or escape or control of the terror which drives the functioning of ego. Ego is fear. It is seducing to think we can bring "vast awareness" to look into the corners of our dark inner world, and once we do so, it will be ok, because our fear will be seen to be unnecessary. The beautiful mystical traditions present this possibility. But it is a lie. We are fear whether we cop to it or not and it can't be dismantled without committing "self" suicide. That action is not wired into our structures. We may "think" we can separate from this functioning, but we are fooling ourselves, no matter how any years of cave meditation, yoga or deep thinking we do, it is hopeless. And coming to that conclusion, that our inner terror has no fix is absolutely and completely daunting. Nobody chooses to kill ego. That would be impossible. "I" (ego) will seperate myself from "I" and, that which observes the functioning (me) is now different, free? Imagine this, we have a cough, we go to the doctor and are diagnosed with advanced stage lung cancer. Forty two years old with 3 kids and a wife. We have 8 weeks left. That which arises in that moment and takes you over, is what I am pointing at. Is that fear newly born in that moment or is it who we are in that moment.
I know this likely sounds as if I am an arrogant dick. But really thats not the point. The point I am trying to make, is there is no escape. The fear is real and it is reasonable. It would be illogical to not be afraid of the black hole which we all fear to acknowledge.
Thanks again for your thoughts.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:37
#235395
Interesting. It is certainly possible there is no escape, but figure this. How much effort has been put into just such a possibility by so many people in history. Christianity talks about "dying to self." The Hindu, Buddhist and Moslem have devoted much energy to the cause. Perhaps it is only the desire or hope of escape which deludes all of us who think it possible.
Modern psychological literature (Marsha Linehan) has developed a rather radical approach to self-help based on the "wise mind" which is just another way of saying "expanded consciousness." When we ask, "who or what is doing the observing" we are told it is the real self observing the psuedo-self. When we ask, "how do we know" the answer is muddled.
Is it possible or not? The ego says, "test it" and if the empirical data supports it then it is likely true. But what part of us says, "take it on faith?" And what part of us analyzes whether such an "observing state" is even possible? By those very acts we have disengaged the ego by some small measure.
When I contemplate these things I feel anxiety and fear. So when I think it possible to look around the corner, or peek over the edge of the maze and I feel less anxious and less fearful have I deluded myself or is it possible to do?
How do I know?
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:30
#235120
I appreciated the great effort you put into your article. I would like to suggest another contemplation which you might find interesting.
It is likely not possible for us to step aside and observe ego's functioning. It may appear to us like we have separated "ourself" from that object we are arguing with, want to fuck, or are ignoring, but we haven't really. That thought too is a trick of ego. It allows us to feel like there is some hope or escape or control of the terror which drives the functioning of ego. Ego is fear. It is seducing to think we can bring "vast awareness" to look into the corners of our dark inner world, and once we do so, it will be ok, because our fear will be seen to be unnecessary. The beautiful mystical traditions present this possibility. But it is a lie. We are fear whether we cop to it or not and it can't be dismantled without committing "self" suicide. That action is not wired into our structures. We may "think" we can separate from this functioning, but we are fooling ourselves, no matter how any years of cave meditation, yoga or deep thinking we do, it is hopeless. And coming to that conclusion, that our inner terror has no fix is absolutely and completely daunting. Nobody chooses to kill ego. That would be impossible. "I" (ego) will seperate myself from "I" and, that which observes the functioning (me) is now different, free? Imagine this, we have a cough, we go to the doctor and are diagnosed with advanced stage lung cancer. Forty two years old with 3 kids and a wife. We have 8 weeks left. That which arises in that moment and takes you over, is what I am pointing at. Is that fear newly born in that moment or is it who we are in that moment.
I know this likely sounds as if I am an arrogant dick. But really thats not the point. The point I am trying to make, is there is no escape. The fear is real and it is reasonable. It would be illogical to not be afraid of the black hole which we all fear to acknowledge.
Thanks again for your thoughts.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:33
#235122
I appreciated the great effort you put into your article. I would like to suggest another contemplation which you might find interesting.
It is likely not possible for us to step aside and observe ego's functioning. It may appear to us like we have separated "ourself" from that object we are arguing with, want to fuck, or are ignoring, but we haven't really. That thought too is a trick of ego. It allows us to feel like there is some hope or escape or control of the terror which drives the functioning of ego. Ego is fear. It is seducing to think we can bring "vast awareness" to look into the corners of our dark inner world, and once we do so, it will be ok, because our fear will be seen to be unnecessary. The beautiful mystical traditions present this possibility. But it is a lie. We are fear whether we cop to it or not and it can't be dismantled without committing "self" suicide. That action is not wired into our structures. We may "think" we can separate from this functioning, but we are fooling ourselves, no matter how any years of cave meditation, yoga or deep thinking we do, it is hopeless. And coming to that conclusion, that our inner terror has no fix is absolutely and completely daunting. Nobody chooses to kill ego. That would be impossible. "I" (ego) will seperate myself from "I" and, that which observes the functioning (me) is now different, free? Imagine this, we have a cough, we go to the doctor and are diagnosed with advanced stage lung cancer. Forty two years old with 3 kids and a wife. We have 8 weeks left. That which arises in that moment and takes you over, is what I am pointing at. Is that fear newly born in that moment or is it who we are in that moment.
I know this likely sounds as if I am an arrogant dick. But really thats not the point. The point I am trying to make, is there is no escape. The fear is real and it is reasonable. It would be illogical to not be afraid of the black hole which we all fear to acknowledge.
Thanks again for your thoughts.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 00:56
#235142
Pathetically and in retrospect, the title of this article should have read, "End of a Vampire".
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 02:26
#235191
CD - started reading this way too late, only read top third...but on the ego and zombie thing...i don't think of ego as zombie-ish, it seems pretty clever and forward thinking, flexible...isn't it the subconscious programming that we are usually working off 98 percent of the time...of course our ego is linked to that...and when you are watching your ego, what is the "you" watching...if you can see your ego, shouldn't you be doing more than watching, shouldn't you be controlling it for good?
and going into some one else's dream body, that sounds creepy, I hope you ask permission...if a non-lucid dreamer has free will to provide permission
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 05:41
#235234
Douglas Hofstadter recently wrote a book entitled I am a Strange Loop, that is worth the effort to read (though it can be a challenging read; he gets very deep into Kurt Goedel's theory of Incompleteness), but he also links it very effectively to the recursive layers of abstraction that make up the human mind and awareness.
As to going into someone else's dream body, isn't that effectively a form of role playing? You are creating in your own head a model of what you believe is in someone else's head. If you are sufficiently perceptive, this model can actually be fairly accurate. It doesn't mean that you can know things that the other person knows or retrieve the memories that the other person has, but it does mean that you can intuit potential assumptions about their behavior, past and present, based upon the model.
To be able to have this ability, I would suspect you'd need to be both highly perceptive and intuitive - which form the foundation for empathy.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 04:03
#235215
It speaks volumes that ZH now has TWO “contributors” who are “Truthers”, this one a neurotic gas bag.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 04:27
#235218
Cognitive,
Superb article. I recommend "The Goddess and the Alphabet" as an interesting treatise on the development of the ego. A lot of Taoist and Zen Buddhist philosophy is predicated upon the notion of quieting the ego as well, and it is of course a thread that runs deep through the works of Carlos Castanedos.
Artists, writers, programmers, musicians and many athletes regularly describe their immersion into the fugue state, in which the ego becomes subordinated or even turned off temporarily, and it's fascinating to look at the "side effects" of such a state. People in fugue lose their sense of time. I'm a writer, artist, programmer and musician (sadly, athleticism is not a forte), and have experienced this innumerable times. When in fugue, you can work on a story or a difficult piece of software for several hours at a time without being aware that the time has passed, and coming out of the fugue state (regaining the ego) can often result in a certain degree of disorientation as the conscious "me" tries to recalibrate itself to the outside world.
Fugue state is also notable for its ability to make rich associations, and to that extent there's a certain degree of overlap between fugue and dreaming. It's very seldom consciously directed by definition - a writer will tell you not that they created a story but rather that she was simply the scribe of a story that was already playing out in her head without seeming conscious volition - the characters were acting and reacting within their own world, often doing things that the author had not consciously decided they should be doing. Similarly a talented programmer will often end up seeing the whole system working together even if there hasn't been a line of code written.
I believe that this ability to spawn multiple entities is the flip side to your discussion of the ego, and is a direct measure of the degree to which you can effectively evaluate multiple "realities" for their best fit to the available data. In essence each entity is a different model of reality, selecting for both inputs and processing parameters. Such people are often more flexible and adaptive in the face of changing environments, and not surprisingly many of them tend to come from environments where change was the only real constant.
Similarly, I see a strong correlation between dogmatism and ego-centricity. Ego-centric people are seldom empathic, because empathy requires the ability to shift your frame of reference to another person's world view, and ego-centricity by it's very nature makes this shift difficult if not impossible to achieve. Dogmatism, in turn, is predicated upon a highly rigid viewpoint and the belief that the rules of the given reality are fixed and solid, rather than arbitrary based upon available inputs. Egotists are largely sensory, discarding those puzzle pieces which don't seem to fit within the their model (singular) and embracing only those pieces that do. Intuitives, on the other hand, are the fugue-staters, storing the odd puzzle piece in the back of their minds until their internal models can adapt to a sufficient degree to make sense of that piece (or until one of the models in their heads fits the largest number of puzzle pieces, at which point the others are relegated to secondary status and new models are created).
Such intuitives (thinking the Jungian model that was the basis for Meyers-Briggs) are comparatively rare - 3% to 5% of the population as a whole, although I think that the number may be growing, especially among the youngest generation who are growing up in increasingly systems oriented environments. They are systemic thinkers rather than analytical ones (where what passes for analysis is simply reductionism) and they often go by hunches and instinct rather than by using the rules as tools to complete their particular projects (this is the distinction between a programmer and an architect in my way of thinking).
Einstein was such an intuitive - he developed hunches, then spent years developing gedanken experiments to support those hunches), but Einstein is not all that typical of physicists (though very typical of mathematicians, which he honestly considered himself).
However, to put this rambling commentary into something hopefully resembling cohesiveness, most political leaders, bankers, and marketers overall are not intuitives, if only because most tend to be highly ego-centric. Ego-centrists tend to have the advantage short term - they know the rules of the system, know the mechanisms that can be used to manipulate those in the system, and they aren't hampered by the intuitives major limitation. For the intuitive, their models are usually more reflective of the world as it is (in all its multifaceted aspects of change) than of the consensual reality that the egoists have had indoctrinated into them most of their lives.
This means that the intuitive is often left having to guess at the rules of the egoists, trying to make them make sense when typically they don't, because the consensual reality does not in fact need to mirror the world 1 to 1. This means that while the intuitives may understand the reason for the way that the consensual reality exists, they ironically can't know it intuitively, so they violate its rules without intending to, fail to make connections that they would if they'd been steeped in that world view from birth, and often are seen as the enemy by those who lead the egoists because they have the potential of exposing the flaws, limitations and outright lies of the system.
Thus intuitives often end up becoming, as Buckminster Fuller once noted, trim tabs - the small rudder on the back of the larger rudder plane that can dramatically change the direction of a ship with fairly little effort. I've often suspected that this is one of the reasons that, when a junta or strongman takes over power in a coup, that the intellectuals of that society are often the first to be rounded up or shot - not because the intellectuals are "authorities" in the traditional sense, but because intellectuals tend to house a larger than normal number of potential trim tabs that could in turn most successfully question the legitimacy of the government and have others believe them.
Anyway, keep writing - this is turning into a thoughtful and engaging series.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:52
#235422
Another +1000.
Fascinating how these ideas were explored in the 3-Part series, The Matrix.
I find that I have to tackle this a little at a time. When I was younger I enjoyed frequent fugue states. As I grew older this morphed into a defense mechanism called "dissociative states." I now believe they are the same thing but the latter involves a value judgment while the former does not.
When we observe ourselves we must do so without value judgment or emotional attachment. Rather we must simply observe what "is" rather than attach a label such as "good" or "bad." It simply "is" and as long as we wince we have taken the ego along for the ride. I can tell when my ego is in charge when I recall an event from the past and my moral judgment engages and results in regret or guilt. A method that works for me is to practice remembering without judgment.
Hopefully one day I will be able to enter the fugue state as I did when I was young. At the moment it is a skill I have only just begun to recover.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 07:27
#235266
More, MORE !
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 07:46
#235274
Andrzej Lobaczewski put this problem in perspective in his masterwork "Political Ponerology". Countries have been shaped and run by sociopaths. They don't have the same feelings, consciences as we have. Their value systems are not human based. They are to us --unhealthy, insane: thus the mass murderers Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Caesar and their henchmen.
If we apply this insight to today's economic debacle, we see how a few of these special "people" have declared economic war on certain populations to conquer them without bloodshed -- the best of Sun Tzu's options. Lies are their most often used weapons.
Sociopathic governments war against each other and against their own citizen-serfs who are so very different from and threatening to them: thus most countries today. They have egos that won't be denied or resisted and from their own point of view, superior. We are their goyim, cattle -- penned, to be devoured.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 09:08
#235299
Masterpiece of an article.
This society has been indoctrinated to feed the ego, feed the knee-jerk child more than any other time in history. As a friend of mine said lately, we are being fed a dark-ages mentality with 21ist century technology. Its dangerous.
As far as clearing the tonal (yeah, Castenada opened a door for me, for better or worse, but eventually you find you need other's directions to the place less than the drugs, even) it is imperative for us to grow as a society to do so.
Yesterday, I wrote a piece about Polarizing Conditions which tied nicely to what I read here this morning. I'd LOVE to have you submit this essay at my blog.
(it would have been twice as good if I had read this first)
My ego is a damaged abused child, I have learned to always observe myself, and never let its first-jerk reaction to control what I do/say. Ok, almost always. But as you say, it is the great protector of the weak when in life threatening situations. So, you never can kill it completely.
Cannot wait for pt 2.
Regards,
Diane G
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:21
#235379
let me add to what Anon. has written-will the man who's worked hard,played by the rules now put his ego in the backseat after all his money,his job/home/wife have gone? should he? or should he send an Rpg into the offices on wall st.? because,as i see it, random acts of violence against obvious guilty world destroying criminals would be more effective then an ego shift. it would do SOMETHING! we are not going to shift into this new age love world without DEALING with the individuals/groups involved. there has to be some kind of justice first. yes, here in the States we are disimpowered, but not as (yet) as helpless as many in the third world. i don't what violent actions,but really all this "informing" the zombies is just a circle jerk. how else do you propose to resolve this?! in fact,lets your method of removing the societal ego. Nature itself dictates applying a macro level balance.you well express the mood of many,but its just another post. brian b.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:28
#235388
You provoked a lot of thought with this post. I do have to say your perspective mirrors mine. Nice to know there are others in the neighborhood. But for the most part, the neighborhood is populated with perspectives that seem quite foreign to me, for many of the reasons you noted. Have come to some different conclusions which, as you say, only reflect where I am in the evolution of my own consciousness. Thanks for sharing. I don't feel quite so alone.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:42
#235405
Interesting read, down the rabbit hole I go.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:22
#236602
Replying to myself here. Googled "Cognitive Dissonance", the great example of this is smoking. Self reflected on this and tore down my excuses to continue it, so now I no longer smoke.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 11:01
#235448
Another method for practicing "expanded consciousness" or "fugue states" where the ego relinquishes control is through "stream of consciousness" writing. I believe this is what Jane Roberts was doing with the "Seth Material."
You must also be in a state where you are not threatened, anxious or fearful otherwise the ego will not relinquish control.
Frankly, drugs are one of the ways to achieve this and one of the reasons why they are so tightly regulated. An entire social complex has been erected around many of these drugs using concepts of psychological and physical illness and control and regulation. That is not to say they cannot be dangerous but the danger is exaggerated for the purpose of control. In effect they are saying, "we don't want the masses to wake up one day and realize what we are doing."
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 11:19
#235485
Psquared, really? c.d. says we should be able to see the world as open as a child-well i child has a sense of fairness,even balance. this article is very good,but it's not a new idea. it goes back to some of the worst aspects of the original christians-o we are the problem,we must see the world through meek eyes=romans 13,etc. there is no mental leap that erases the fact of the clear systemic corruption in the world. should we not stop a Hitler AND serve justice to those Bush's-Schekelgrubers in our own country that funded him-that today determine YOUR reality,if you think they don't,your hopeless.rigid and pedantic ? because i rail against a system that lets millions starve?-hmmm, much better to count the number of goldman sachs bankers on the head of a credit default swap. yes we must change, but theres this THING in the way and it does not respect new ways of egoless thinking-IT COUNTS ON IT.
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 11:25
#235493
Psquared, really? c.d. says we should be able to see the world as open as a child-well A child has a sense of fairness,even balance. this article is very good,but it's not a new idea. there is no mental leap that erases the fact of the clear systemic corruption in the world. should we not stop a Hitler AND serve justice to those Bush's-Schekelgrubers in our own country that funded him-that today determine YOUR reality,if you think they don't,your hopeless.rigid and pedantic ? because i rail against a system that lets millions starve?-hmmm, much better to count the number of goldman sachs bankers that danceon the head of a credit default swap. yes we must change, but theres this THING in the way and it does not respect new ways of egoless thinking-IT COUNTS ON IT.