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End Game - Would US Police/Troops Fire Upon US Citizens?

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End Game - Would US Police/Troops Fire Upon US Citizens?

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Cognitive Dissonance

 

This is the first in an occasional series examining the end of the American Empire and the global shock waves it will produce. Contrary to popular belief I suspect the unraveling will take place over many years, decades even, with sudden plunges and slow partial recoveries aka dead cat bounces. I call this series of examinations “End Game”.

 

I would wager that the vast majority of people reading this essay have already come to their own conclusion regarding the answer to the title’s query. Certainly you may have several qualifiers and stipulations with which you framed your answer and maybe even a few facts and proofs ready for quick rebuttal if challenged. But my own experience with explosive questions such as this is that there are few who have not already formed an opinion on the matter. If you have not you would be the exception to the rule.

And at this point in the meltdown it would be fair to say there are no correct or incorrect answers to be found, only supposition, assumption and what I expect will be full throated argument to follow in the comment section. May I suggest that whatever answer you’ve come up with wasn’t necessarily arrived at through careful deliberation or contemplation, but rather as an integral part of your overall belief system? And while you may consider all that you believe to be valid and fact based, for all people other than possibly the sociopaths walking among us this is far from the case.

Personally I find that sitting down and writing about a subject forces me to push through all the fuzzy logic and tenuous connections that make up my system of beliefs. For most of us what we think we know or believe is similar to a loosely connected debris field of facts, thoughts, myths, hopes and desires floating on the mind’s surface. Only in this case there really isn’t much mixing or removal of the thought debris by intellectual wave action, just a lifelong rearrangement of the floating deck chairs. When strong emotions are brought into the mix, it’s like a hurricane came through and made an even bigger mess of things.

 

Debris

 


Much of our belief system is firmly stuck in heavy mud by our late twenties, having been absorbed and adopted during our early years by way of our state mandated education, the popular press, corporate branding initiatives, consensus opinion, deliberately false public myth making and the always present and rarely subtle corporate and governmental propaganda machines. And what we call our mid life crisis is simply that period of time when we begin to call into question many of the basic and fundamental tenets that have guided us to that point. We usually get through this moment of clarity when the bills start piling up and the libido finally begins to fail care of our chemically treated foodstuffs.    

In practice what we believe is not a coherent jigsaw puzzle held together by reason and “facts”, but rather little islands of hope and belief that would contradict or outright cancel each other like matter and anti-matter if they ever came into contact with one other. I see this all the time not just here in The Hedge (both in the comment section and in various articles from multiple sources) but in newspapers, magazines, blogs, TV and radio; the list really is endless. Selective memory and a convoluted thought process isn’t just the domain of think tanks and the MSM. The alternative press and blogosphere are often just as guilty as well, it being one of the hazards of swimming in the same festering cesspool.

Read or listen to any person long enough and you eventually begin to detect errors in logical thought and fact as well as serious conflicts between a person’s articles, books, and lectures; even at times within a specific article or essay. I find this holds true for nearly everyone (including myself) regardless of our denial that it’s happening. Courage is required to challenge our own thinking and weed these discrepancies out. Sadly it’s so much easier to isolate and ignore these inconsistencies then to purge them and face the ugly truths left behind. We hide from ourselves long before we flee the boogie man. The masks we wear in public are crude imitations of the ones we carry within.

 

Masks

 

Judging from conversations I’ve had with many people from diverse backgrounds the majority of souls seem to come down into one of two camps. For the most part the responses I’ve gathered consist of either “No….but” and “Yes….but” with the clear winner the middle ground of qualified “buts”. When questioned more than superficially and asked to explain or justify their stance, many shamelessly switch back and forth between sides and arguments, proving to me that their opinion is based upon nothing more substantial than wishful thinking and hope. However, most do understand that there are huge variables involved anytime a gun is pointed and fired, regardless of whether the person fired upon is armed or not.

Obviously at this point in the great American unwind no police or military units are patrolling the streets gunning down all who are seen as threatening. And this wasn’t what I was suggesting would happen……at least not unless worse case scenarios are achieved. But the end of the American Empire is approaching, a process that will unravel over decades. And it would be hopelessly naïve or even terminally ignorant to believe that any high ranking “authority” in America has anyone’s interest first other than their own. We can love our slave masters all we want, but they love us only for any remaining productive worth we may offer and no more.

Any remaining belief in high ranking honorable “public servants” should have been thoroughly abandoned after witnessing the outrageous antics of the financial elite and politically connected over the last ten years and particularly the last five. We are all expendable cannon fodder and contrary to any official assurances from the professional propagandists that we are all loved and cared about, we have always been so. Denial of this basic fact is the only real roadblock to a fuller understanding of what’s being done in my name and yours.

False hope inevitably binds us to truly impossible situations and this has consistently been our Achilles Heel, a weakness ruthlessly exploited by the rich and powerful for millennium. The almost universally accepted Abrahamic religious redeemer complex is the ultimate (self) enslavement vehicle. In effect, it forgives those who dish out the punishment and glorifies the suffering of those who are being punished. Talk about your dysfunctional relationship, how are we to live in peace and harmony when the basic tenets of the majority of the world’s religions glorify those who grind our bones to make their bread?

 

Abrahamic Religions

 

First let’s take a look at who or what would be patrolling the streets under the guise of “keeping the peace”, “finding the terrorists” or whatever excuse the government manufactures in order to justify placing armed uniformed men and women in the population centers of America. And for the purpose of this essay there is the assumption that something has happened or was caused to happen that will be used by the powers that be to deploy police/troops in America under the cover of maintaining law and order.

BTW, we should clearly understand that the real reason the troops will be deployed is to maintain and possibly even consolidate the existing power structure of the powers that be. Or at a minimum to keep the lynch mobs and revenge seekers at bay long enough to make their escape. Is this truly that surprising? After all we have devolved into a banana republic and that’s the way all bananas are eventually peeled.

Initially there would be the local police, supposedly the first line of defense in maintaining the peace. And despite the obvious fact that over the last ten or so years they have been increasingly militarized, the police are for the most part trained to resolve conflict through non-violent means. Or at least that’s the official public myth. Only after you don’t agree with their non violent solution do they pull out their Tasar or Glock. If the first thing you experience is fear when you see flashing lights in the rearview mirror, I would ask you to reconsider the validity of their “non-violent” mission.

Just conduct a “police brutality” YouTube search if you’d like a video lesson on officially sanctioned violence in America. Between the images cruiser dashboard cams have documented and those candid camera videos various citizens have captured via camera phone it’s quite clear police violence isn’t just perpetrated by a few rogue cops on an occasional basis. Instead it appears to be a systemic problem that’s growing worse by the day. A Google word search using the same term will bring back tens of thousands of hits, more than enough to turn your stomach and send the meek and mind controlled scurrying back to the safety of their warm beds. The formerly carefully hidden police state is now coming into full view.

 

Rearview

 

The second line of defense would be the National Guard. If we were talking twenty years ago I might make a disparaging remark about weekend warriors more dangerous to themselves than to others. But eight years of rotations through Iraq and Afghanistan have turned the National Guard into something your father wouldn’t recognize. Without getting too deep into the merits of today’s Guard, better trained has its pluses and minuses as long as we understand what they have now been trained to do.

Then there is the military itself, most likely Army and possibly Special Forces units that will provide the actual boots on the ground. Ever since the creation of NORTHCON on October 1, 2002, supposedly as a direct result of 9/11, the political and financial elite have been overtly preparing for the inevitability of social unrest. Covert preparations extend back decades under cover of any available and plausible excuse in the book.

The military readily admits that it’s not properly trained to execute (no pun intended) domestic police actions and they agree they would be poorly suited to maintain order during any chaotic domestic uprising. And I agree. Home invasions by the military would be just as distasteful for Americans as they are for the Iraqis regardless of what it’s called and under whatever bullshit legal premise it has been authorized.

I can’t help but wonder if the UN Security Council will sanction an invasion of America by a “coalition of the willing” when our time comes around? Don’t laugh because I’m being deadly serious. Do not underestimate the measures the desperate will use to remain in power and don’t assume the rich and powerful are physically located only in the USA. It’s a global game and America has been the home field only for the last 70 or so years. It helps to remember that stock sectors aren’t the only thing that rotates. BTW notice that the eagle below covers all of North America, not just the USA.

 

Northcom

 

On a side note, I still find it amazing how many political/military actions were a direct result of 9/11 yet nobody wants to seriously discuss what really went down that day. Careful because you might not like the stench of whatever it is you dig up. We all complain about political and governmental secrecy, but the vast majority of Americans don’t want to know what’s going on and are happier when they are deceived. The big lie we gratefully participate in is that we are a free and self directed people. It’s so much better to let buried dogs lay undisturbed where they can quickly decompose out of sight and mind.

And let’s not forget the foreign troops that will be invited to conduct joint exercises on American soil. On February 14, 2008 Northcom and the Canada Command agreed to come to each other’s “aid” in the event of a civil crisis such as floods, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes and “the effects of a terrorist attack”. While this description comes from the PR propaganda on Northcom’s web site I would love to read the actual document. Naturally Congress wasn’t consulted and were actually sidestepped entirely. It didn’t matter anyway since they were too busy whoring for re-election contributions at the time, a time honored spring, summer, fall and winter Congressional/Corporate pornographic mating ritual.

Of course, the obvious inference here is that if American citizen soldiers are unable or unwilling to “police” their fellow US citizens, we can always call in the Canadians to help us out. Certainly our Canadian brothers and sisters will be subjected to plenty of official propaganda to prepare them for their friendly invasion. I’m sure the psyops division of both countries can come up with plenty of video of homeless Americans swimming across the Saint Lawrence River in search of Canadian food stamps and citizenship….or at least their version of the green card. There are many other “agreements” with NATO and other individual countries that have been less publicized than this one if that’s even remotely possible

Now for the sleeper “police” force very few seem willing to acknowledge or even aware enough of to intelligently discuss, but who will most certainly be invited to the nationwide block party. Naturally I’m talking about private military contractors of the Blackwater/Xe ilk, also known as privately paid (with taxpayer funds of course) and controlled mercenaries of the increasingly privatized and corporatized America. This isn’t new but rather just a recycling of an old tradition of the Federal Government using private entities to provide “security” and “crowd control”. Blackwater is just the latest.

 

Blackwater

 

While everyone was watching what Blackwater and others like them were (and still are) doing over in Iraq and Afghanistan (and in many other countries where they are used as embassy and corporate “security” forces) rarely do we hear about the untold billions they’re being paid for services rendered in the good old US of A. Their presence in New Orleans after Katrina was a primer on how things will be done in the future. The almighty buck is their master and it’s the only flag they salute. God bless Uncle Ben.

Last, but most assuredly not least, will be the alphabet soup of government intelligence agencies (domestic and foreign) as well as too numerous to count private “interests” pushing, prodding and provoking wherever they can to influence the outcome of the civil unrest. This will be done for any number of reasons that will most certainly be at cross purposes with the interests of the American people in general and the actual protestors in particular. This will include the FBI, CIA, DIA, Mossad, MI6, BND and dozens of other public, private and foreign “security” and intelligence organizations whose primary purpose will be the protection of the vested interests of powerful people, corporations and countries. Guess where that leaves you and me? 

So who will take to the streets? Ultimately this is impossible to say because the situation will be fluid and the variables unknown and in a constant state of flux. To be frank the time to push back was late in 2008 when the globalist’s financial agenda flipped from covert to overt and their plans were finally exposed for all to see who wished to look. But decades of conditioning and propaganda was sufficient to keep the American people trapped within their own minds and unable to muster the courage to begin the process of breaking free. And once TARP was rammed through without significant or sustained resistance, the financial elite knew it was game on and they’d better get it all while the getting was good.

And getting it all is precisely what they’ve done over the last 2 plus years as private debt was systematically bought by the Federal Reserve for 100 cents on each dollar in the name of “saving” the system. Now the next leg down has begun (I am not measuring economic legs by the stock market) and where it stops nobody really knows. But after 3 years of worsening economic conditions, carefully camouflaged by an artificially pumped stock market, more and more American citizens are waking up to the fact that they’ve been ripped off and to some extent they’ve let it happen. Or at the very least they barely said a word other than bitch and complain to each other about the highway robbery.

 

Highway Robbery

 

This is where the really destructive and ultimately self defeating rage will spring from. Obviously it will be acted out as simple righteous indignation over the repeated daylight robberies of the US treasury by public and private entities. But just like a women scorned, there is no anger quite like that enjoyed by the person who suddenly realizes he or she has been conned and the active ingredient was his or her own greed and willing participation. Facing this ugly self revelation, the ego has no choice but to push every emotional button it can find in a desperate attempt to keep the mind from recognizing that it is partially responsible for its own continuing enslavement.

What usually arises from this internal blame shifting and emotional thrashing about is mindless anger directed at the “responsible” con men whose motto is there will always be customers ready to purchase the lies and self deception they’re selling. Since we can’t possibly shoulder any blame for our dance with the devil no matter how small, this anger will eventually be directed towards any handy minority (group or individual, it doesn’t really matter) who happens to be in the wrong place at the right time.

Case in point is the very recent public services union bashing, themselves just another greedy patsy on a long list of willing participants in our own self destruction. Next up is unionized grocery baggers at the local Safeway followed by Meals-On-Wheels delivery drivers. There are no lows that will not be plumed by a population trying to escape responsibility and self examination and this too will be skillfully used against us.

There is one defining characteristic we Americans proudly boast of that is singularly unique in the entire world and it has nothing to do with our standard of living, GDP or total debt. “We The People” not only believed our leader’s lies about American exceptionalism, but we bought into those lies hook, line and sinker. And for several decades the lie worked magnificently thanks to the magic of a widely accepted reserve currency which enabled us to export most of the corrosive effects of our money printing (aka inflation) outside our borders and the military to enforce it when reluctance surfaced…..such as Iraq and Afghanistan to name just two. Good times were had by all, the punch bowl never ran dry and it was all due to our superior abilities. Until now that is.

This is in contrast to the citizens of various Middle East countries (or much of the developing world for that matter) who are always painfully aware of their real state of existence. Or even the Europeans, who have lived through several thousand years of regime changes, invasions and oppression and for the most part have a much better understanding of the magnitude and scope of the official lies and propaganda and how the dance plays out.

Ultimately this didn’t save the Europeans from their own greed and self interested pursuits, but at least they aren’t completely shocked that it’s all coming apart……..once again. The ice cold shower of awakening we Americans are about to experience will be unlike anything any nation has gone through since possibly WW2 Germany beginning around 1942 when civilian centers were deliberately targeted by Allied bombing and the German population began to really feel the sting of their own self deception and mass delusion. While I have no way of knowing exactly how America’s electro shock therapy will play out, it seems self evident it’s coming if for no other reason than because I can hear the electrical generators firing up in the background. Clear!

 

Wake up surprise

 

How this affects the American psyche as well as the various ways it could play out is well beyond the scope of this essay, but suffice to say it will not be pretty. For some of us escape will be had by digging ever deeper into denial. For others, especially those who become caught up in the vicious cycle of endless anger and fits of self pity and rage, the obvious targets of their self destructive outbursts will be any low level authority figure who stands up to them and that all time favorite among those who diligently practice slave mentality, their fellow slaves. Following our passive/aggressive conditioning, many of us will seek to punish those like us before we ever consider lifting a finger against our own masters.

While I expect cooler heads among the aggrieved will attempt to exert an influence over the angry mobs and demonstrators, we must not diminish the ugly truth that there will be plenty of domestic and foreign entities that will see the coming American domestic strife and unrest as an opportunity to foment violent demonstrations and even armed and violent insurrection. The use of infiltrated agents and agent provocateurs to incite violence and disrupt peaceful protest is a well known and time honored technique used by private parties, governments and even the resistance itself (to maintain plausible deniability for example) to further their own particular goals.

The very fact that spontaneous demonstrations are by their nature unorganized and at best loosely controlled works against the intent of the people demonstrating when those who wish to disrupt and discredit are familiar with and comfortable using any means necessary to maintain or regain control over the population. The worst that can happen to any group of people working to unseat an existing power base is their failure to imagine the lengths to which those in power will go to keep it. Those who don’t lie cheat and steal for a living won’t give proper weight and consideration to the tendency of those who do so to continue to do so, let alone their desire to accelerate their methods of operation.

 

Same ole same old

 

One would think that once the American people begin to wake up to the extent and breadth of official corruption and manipulation that they would at least be temporarily disabused of seeking additional flights of fantasy. Sadly this is not the case at all. The well worn path many newly awakened minds take is to substitute one form of self delusion with another. A conditioned mind that has been shocked into awareness will immediately begin to seek simple answers that help them rationalize away their own self deception and participation. This tendency will be repeatedly and skillfully exploited by foreign and domestic psyops campaigns. Out of the frying pan and into the fire is an apt description for how it works.

For those who may doubt the veracity of that last paragraph, consider the long and extremely painful path you have walked to get to where you are now in your awakening. How many times have you become demoralized and depressed along the way? How often did you backslide into denial with each new and shocking revelation? How many times did you try to bargain with the truth in order to forget only to fail miserably? How much easier was it for you to adapt to and then accept what you desperately wished to deny because the world remained relatively normal during your acclimation period.

Your awakening happened over a minimum of many months and most likely years and as much as you may have wished you could, it’s impossible to forget once you have been exposed to the previously unthinkable. Now consider what your state of mind would be like if all that you’ve experienced was compressed into a few short months or even several weeks. This is what the average Joe is facing at some point in the future. To have your sense of self identity and community ripped from you by the very people you’ve wanted to believe were your protectors is never easy to deal with under the best of circumstances. The easy road to awareness is behind us and it’s all downhill from here.

So while I can’t answer the title’s question for you I can offer my own opinion as to whether or not Americans will be fired upon. The short answer is that of course they will. Why would you think otherwise when US history offers up dozens of examples to choose from. The powers that be are ego maniacs, the elites have hundreds of years of experience controlling the masses and the masses are mostly living their lives in denial. I consider it inevitable that when the uprisings begin and they turn really ugly that those who are paid to protect the powerful and their assets will follow orders and do precisely that.

 

Hat Tip to William Banzai7 for the image below. 

 

 WB7's Kent State

 

Once again you can’t see this from your own point of view because you most likely won’t be the one holding the riot gear and facing the screaming mobs. While I’m certain some within the police, military and National Guard will follow their heart and refuse to fire or even follow orders if doing so means hurting their fellow citizens, in effect declaring conscientious objector status, they will for the most part be a small minority and will be quickly weeded out of the ranks by the second or third round of protests.

Considering the insanity the police and troops will be facing as well as the economic collapse that threatens them as well, the police/troops will rally around each other and protect their own closed community using whatever means necessary. Throw in the mercenaries, the agent provocateurs, the psyops campaigns, the meddling from the various intelligence agencies and the only question I have is not if but when and how much.

Someone in the comment section the other day said that since the military is now an all volunteer fighting force, the standard of conduct has been raised and no one in the military would ever fire on their fellow citizens. While I would love to believe this, I see it from a different point of view. Those in the military want(ed) to be in the military, thus they were more likely to buy into military groupthink and its attendant mind control and propaganda. Rest assured that long before any uniformed service person (police or military) is asked to confront their fellow citizens they will be subjected to a barrage of intensive conditioning and will be propagandized to the nth degree.

In my opinion, to believe that the various forces arrayed against the protesting public won’t fire on them is to continue to believe in American exceptionalism and more specifically in the desire of the rich and powerful to finally see the error of their ways and thus immediately cease and desist from further exploitation and pillage. If this is the case, if this is what you believe, then all I can say is that you live in a dream world Neo.

On a more positive note I do think something has changed and it’s still not being recognized for what it is and what it might mean. The interim resolutions in Tunisia and Egypt, while undoubtedly unsettled and tenuous at best, did not result in the massive loss of lives many people and governments thought could and would happen. Libya is playing out how many expected Egypt and Tunisia would, with the powers that be fighting to retain power with modern weapons and no mercy.

My question is this, why didn’t Egypt and Tunisia go up in flames? I have some thoughts on why this is the case and I saw WB7 made mention of this change in one of his posts as well. The people who said no more to the powers that be didn’t show up with broken bottles, rocks and other assorted weapons ready to fight. Instead they just said no in as peaceful a manner as they could and they were saying no to the global Ponzi, not just the local branch. Instead of joining a mindless mob, people were praying, talking, playing music and at times even laughing. This is a dramatic sea change in the herd mentality and one that I hope to examine more closely in the future.

 

03-01-2011

Cognitive Dissonance

 

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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:35 | 1009757 dark pools of soros
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all they need are more false flags or loony tune rampages and then they can get the US vs THEM line going and convience guilt by association, etc

 

or just go on snap cards and stay under the bridge

 

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:55 | 1009629 Hernando
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During the first Cuban insurrection against Spanish brutality, 9 Havana university students were executed.  A Spanish officer of noble bloodline took out his sword and broke it over his knee stating that he would not dishonor his life and bloodline by being part of such an injustice.

MEN of courage and honor are a rare lot.  Sensitivity to the Holy Spirit is not common.   We live today in a world were honor and justice are an alien concept.  I expect that the hidden elite will use brutality without mercy.  Just know that Jesus see everything and that hell awaits in the after life for those in power who allow it to happen.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:50 | 1009617 Stranded Observer
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As Solnow said above:  Oath Keepers

www.oathkeepers.org

Unfortunately I fear that the number of service people who have joined Oathkeepers is an infintessimal amount of them.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1011585 born2bmild
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Oathkeepers is an organization in need of publicity. That would be great to see posters or flyers outside of the local police credit union or station...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:40 | 1009965 I Got Worms
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My cousin is an MP in the Army. He has served 3 tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. I sent him the oathkeepers website link, and he told me that it seemed like some fringe militia movement and that it wasn't for him. WTF??!!?? Protecting the Constitution is fringe??!! This dude is all in, and yes, I believe he would shoot citizens if ordered to.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 23:54 | 1010166 TBT or not TBT
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Well, Worms, there is citizenship, and then there is citizenship.  Also, thanks to boomer relativism there is also confusion about what the word "is" means.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:26 | 1010968 DosZap
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Nah,

Only Whoremongering dope heads do not know the meaning of IS.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 08:12 | 1010619 cranky-old-geezer
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Well perhaps you can tell us what "Constitution" and "Bill of Rights" mean.

... you know, those two things you and your LE cronies violate every day ...several times every day actually.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:51 | 1009616 SuperRay
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Geez, the answer is of course they will.  But not all. When it comes to it, I expect they blackwater mercenaries will take leadership positions.  After all, many of them are highly trained ex-military assholes who have already killed many civilians with no real consequences to them.  Will they kill Americans? Of course they will.  That's what they do.  Way back in  1968, in Vietnam, I came face to face with the type. It's a rush for them, killing.  So we have over a million of not-too-bright-but-essentially-peaceful people in jail for minor drug violations, and thousands of blackwater killers being paid by TBTF.  The sheeple have no idea what they're in for...it's a Darwinian race to barbarism.  Gee, What did I do with that tequila...? 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:56 | 1009636 Dr. Porkchop
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If they put private contractors on the streets to fire on citizens, I believe that will be considered game on, no holds barred.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 03:04 | 1010429 Cathartes Aura
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they're already "on the streets" - they were in New Orleans after Katrina, as many first person stories & videos have related.

it's called "embedded" for a reason, we all need to get straight on who we trust, and why.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:03 | 1009661 Misean
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Um, the US military is a mercenary force...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 23:52 | 1010159 TBT or not TBT
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Go look up "mercenary" and get back to us dot dot dot.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 23:58 | 1010182 Misean
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Indeed.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 00:04 | 1010200 TBT or not TBT
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Obtuse, this one is.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:24 | 1009731 Cognitive Dissonance
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That's a tough one for most people to accept. For those who have been indoctrinated in nationalism and our glorious fight for freedom and justice for all..... to go anywhere near that idea would just kill them.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 08:03 | 1010600 cranky-old-geezer
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"For those who have been indoctrinated in nationalism and our glorious fight for freedom and justice for all....."

This comment captures the sheep-minded idiocy of your entire article.

Military people aren't indoctrinated in nationalism, their young mush heads are filled with imperialism and fascism. 

How else would they volunteer for multiple tours in places like Iraq and Afganistan?

"Hoo-rah, wez the baddest mofos around, we kickz ass."

THERE'S your typical American military attitude dumbass.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 00:04 | 1010199 Council of Econ...
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I don't entirely agree with that assessment.  I think a handful who are far enough down the timeline from their public schooling would have a lightbulb turn on in their head almost in an instant once you point out a couple points like how closely tied big bankers are to the political class, reserve currency aspects, founding of the UN, etc.  Gosh I'm in my early 20's and actually off to a pretty good start considering economic conditions, yet already such a cynic.  I took the red pill too early...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:38 | 1009764 Misean
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Yes. But necessary. Those ME military people are essentially conscripts. Conscripts will turn. A professional mercenary force is another matter. A well indoctrinated career sargeant and his gang of gung-ho boo-yah! boys...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:50 | 1009615 sgt_doom
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It is no shocker that the Wisconsin Governor Wanker would threaten union members with the national guard.
 
In fact, it is historically consistent.  The original reasons behind the establishment of that national militia, at state levels, with armories strategically situated around the country, was to put down labor "unrest" and strikes throughout the country in the early 1900s.
 
Few Americans are aware (I could end this sentence at that point) that the Rockefellers can be credited with America's first drive-by mass shooting, part and parcel of the infamous Ludlow Massacre.
 
A strike had occurred at the Rockefeller-owned mining company at Ludlow, Colorado.  Rockefeller-financed thugs drove through the mining camp, spraying the miners' tents and shacks with gunfire.
 
Later, state militiamen -- the national guard -- were brought in to randomly shoot into the camp from a nearby hilltop, killing 27 men, women and children.
 
The unofficial count of fatalities was considerably higher, for during nightfall the Rockefeller thugs had crept in and removed a number of the bodies.
 
The Rockefeller family, as creepy as ever, has "honored" the memory of that massacre by locating the H.Q. of one of their subsidiaries, Rockit Solutions, at 333 Ludlow Street.
 
Most Americans incorrectly believe that the Rockefeller fortune to be a "has been" and are considerably ignorant of how, beginning with John D. Rockefeller, the family began hiding and sheltering their wealth through a series of foundations and trusts.  It was John D. who hired the fellow who created the legal fiction of the holding company, in order to hide and obfuscate interlocking corporate ownership.
 
Today, the Rockefellers have at least 35 foundations, many unknown to the public, several rather obvious, but all serving as tax-free holding companies.
 
The Markle Foundation, a member of the Rockefeller foundation network, has been intimately involved in government policies, both in the previous Bush administration and the present Obama administration.
 
The highly fallible Forbes list of the richest only goest by public sources, conveniently overlooking the more complicated interlocking trusts, foundations, holding companies and endless offshore finance centers, thereby effectively ignoring the three greatest fortunes in North America:  the Rockefellers, Morgans and Du Ponts!
 
David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission has spawned America's presidents or vice presidents over the past 35 years.  Although neither Obama nor Biden were ever members, at least 15 members of Obama's first administration were Trilateral members.
 
Conspiracy theory?
 
Negative.  Simply klepto-plutocracy fact.

And great post, BTW!!

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 03:00 | 1010426 Cathartes Aura
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great post sgt_doom!

and continuing with the legacy is Bill Gates' GAVI - Global Alliance for Vaccines & Immunisation - stealth vaccines including airborne "spraying" triggered by sweat glands, and more - all linked to Rockefeller agenda. . .

"Gates said that "Taking our lead and our inspiration from work already done by The Rockefeller Foundation, our foundation actually started GAVI by pledging $750million to something called the Global Fund for Children's Vaccines, an instrument of GAVI"

He also praised the Rockefeller family's century of philanthropy, saying "It seems like every new corner we turn, the Rockefellers are already there.  And in some cases, they've been there for a long, long time."

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/gavi.html

and didn't ole Warren Buffet give Bill most of his billions? what a lovely man. . .

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:57 | 1010015 zaknick
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Yep, "foundations" have been their cover for all kinds of heinous crimes locally and globally: the Rockefookers, Carnegie, Kellogg, DuPont etc

During the 1950s some in Congress went after them with the Reese (i think thats the name) Committee hearings and guess what they hatched? McCarthyism and the "red scare" to pull the wool over the sheeple.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 23:48 | 1010146 TBT or not TBT
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.....and to expose, expel, and exclude communists from sensitive positions in the government.  The USSR was evil and did intend to expand an actual totalitarian police state to the whole planet.   No shit.

A lot of intelligence and technology leakage occured despite our efforts to stop it. The demonization of "Mccarthyism" has been effective though, to the point where aiding the enemy doesn't get a slap on the wrist.  We're practically whoring ourselves to CAIR whose underlying plan is to destroy the foundations of our republic.  We're going out of our way to accomodate them.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:50 | 1009614 AN0NYM0US
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Google goes off-road: Now it straps Street View cameras to TRICYCLES to look around parks and footpaths   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1361892/Google-Street-View-cameras-TRICYCLES-look-parks-footpaths.html#ixzz1FOmmxRW2 Google is beyond evil
Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:51 | 1009619 Dr. Porkchop
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Fuck, I'll wake up one day to them going through my medicine cabinet!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:07 | 1009669 AN0NYM0US
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they already know what's in your medicine cabinet - that is if you have ever searched for a pharma product online - it is actually too late as their databases are without bound and for the majority who have google toolbars, accounts etc they store your crap for eternity

 

I may know you only as Dr. pig but google knows you as the second cousin of porky who had a bit of gangrene in his left hoof back in 2007 and who lives in the pen next to Arnold's - Google also knows all the names of your piglets and as the case may be your grandpiglets along with their various peccadilloes (and yours)

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 06:18 | 1010549 i.knoknot
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+++

so... it doesn't stop us from injecting a little bit of noise into their systems...

turn off the cookie cleaners and go 'look around' a bit. here, there, click on every ad that comes up. do it for an hour (no reading or buying...) just click. and click some more...

national 'just click' day. i could probably get a grant.

heh

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:21 | 1009723 Cognitive Dissonance
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This little piggy went to market, this little piggy stayed home, this little piggy had roast beef, this little piggy had none. And this little piggy went we-we-we-we all the way home.:>)

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:49 | 1009612 Dr. Porkchop
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Will Police fire on US citizens?

 

With enthusiasm unseen since the Hitler Youth!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:47 | 1009608 KickIce
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Those that won't will be replaced by international forces.

And don't think for an instant that Obama's brainwashed "volunteers" will hesitate in firing.  Brownshirts anyone?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:58 | 1009641 Bob
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Beck's army will have uniforms by then. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:02 | 1009659 KickIce
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Beck calls for the opposite.  Why don't you compare the violence of the Tea Party vs the SEIU.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:07 | 1009670 Bob
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Just looking ahead. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:10 | 1009683 KickIce
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That's got to be difficult with your head so far up your ass.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:15 | 1009697 Bob
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Fuck yourself. 

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 02:47 | 1010416 Calmyourself
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Truth stings like a bitch doesn't it Bobby..

 

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Read more: Obama's 'civilian national security force' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=69601#ixzz1FQFODhW2

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 09:24 | 1010760 Bob
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I'm no friend of Barry O.  How did that 2008 proposal go for him?  I'd say he's about a million short against Beck. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:46 | 1009605 Trimmed Hedge
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I feel it's important to watch & study videos of riot police in action (found on YouTube, etc.).

Understand their strengths, understand their weaknesses.

Learn what works for protestors -- and what doesn't.

 

People will be better prepared if & when the time ever comes to the US.

 

Ugh, I can't believe I just wrote this.  : (

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:12 | 1009872 Things that go bump
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Civilians are not capable of standing up to riot police.  It would be like the American Revolutionaries lining up to fight the red coats like a proper European Army.  Take up gorrila warfare, as our forefathers before us.  

 

"Rise like lions after slumber 

In unvanquishable number

Shake your chains off you like dew

Which in sleep had fallen on you.

Ye are many - they are few."

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:33 | 1009940 Trimmed Hedge
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"Civilians are not capable of standing up to riot police."

 

Certainly not with that attitude, they're not....

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 01:25 | 1010338 Things that go bump
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Our forefathers didn't line up like a proper European army so that King George's men could mow them down.  They often didn't play fair or follow the rules of engagement as they were understood in those time.  They ambushed, they sniped.  He who snipes and runs away lives to fight another day.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 23:01 | 1013815 treasurefish
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Read the Art of War lately?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:04 | 1009626 Cognitive Dissonance
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Ugh, I can't believe I just wrote this.  : (

It amazing how quickly we adapt to what we previously considered as distasteful or abhorrent thought.

It sort of like thinking about what you would do if your plane crash landed and the cabin filled with heavy smoke and fire. Experience says that if you push aside all public niceties and push, shove and climb over and on people to get out you're chances of living are much better.

Living with yourself afterwards is a whole nother matter.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:03 | 1009835 Boiling Frogs
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It's sort of like trying to be "open minded" about 9-11. The biggest stumbling block for me, and think many, is getting passed excepting the fact that our government could have been complicit in the murder of 3000 innocent people. Because trying to swallow that shit for the first time is a bitch. I wouldn't talk to my father about it for almost two years after he first brought it up. 

All in all, "waking up" has done wonders for me. I'm pissed at almost everything he see or hear in any most media forms. More than a few friends and coworkers think I'm a kook anarchist.

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 22:54 | 1013796 treasurefish
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Put all your money into some stock, watch the live streaming charts for a few weeks, and you will see the human dark side at it's finest moment.  People are not good by nature, and that is why you need to buy lots of ammo.

 

No, I'm not bitter btw.  I am one of the sharks.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:41 | 1009967 zaknick
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Welcome to the club. On the idiot tube all I see is their hidden hand and not just the propaganda regurgitation on the "news". I think it was ex-mil intel Steve Kangas (suicided after buying an alarm, a gun and going cross country who exposes their manipulation of almost every last little bit of media that shapes the culture and public opinion (google "The Origins of the Overclass"). I think it was him (not sure) who even documented that "grassroots movement" of women's lib was their psy op in order to double the tax base.... pretty effing sick, no? Slavery.

Fookin fascist scum need a serious comeuppance. Please God, grant us our Nuremberg!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:46 | 1009603 Chartist
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They fired on civilians at Kent State and that wasn't even the end game.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:46 | 1009600 Nate Taggart
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I know some who won't fire, but believe majority will.  And they'll do it in the name of the common good.  We citizens are not a part of the "club."  They'll feel fully justified in the face of increasing urban unrest. But that being said I think we'll have warning.  They're going to want to disarm us all first.  Long silver and lead.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:51 | 1009769 New World Chaos
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Add remote land plus food to that list- a least a year's supply.  The cities are death traps.  Blackwater will seal them off and disarm the food rioters by taking guns for food.  If you get caught in a city, an AR-15 might only get you one can of soylent green from Blackwater's FEMA camps.  After two months of seige, the people will give up all their guns and PMs and then they will become the next batch of soylent green.  Rinse, wash, repeat.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:45 | 1009597 dick cheneys ghost
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patriot act serves empire not a republic...

 

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