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Entire Market Now Driven By Volkswagen 2.0

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No major commentary needed... Ironically support now at yesterday's VWAP...for now - wait for the breach. Thank god for liquidity providing algos.

 




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Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Jeanbon
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I have heard that the Dow gave an E-wave 

sell signal this morning. Maybee today

is gona be the big reversal day I have been

waiting for.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:41 | Link to Comment SV
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Algos letting shorts pull their cheese out of the fire - good luck with that!

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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The only wave I see is GS waving bye bye as they leave another week with their illegally gained trading profits obtained from huddles, HFT, flash trading and front running.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 15:06 | Link to Comment darkness (not verified)
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:44 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:54 | Link to Comment deadhead
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saw it earlier mayhem.....kind of freaky.  i always say George Orwell was only off on his timing

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 16:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:07 | Link to Comment e1even1
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their biggest fear isn't "cybersecurity" or terrorism. it's social cataclysm. we're closer to that than we've been in a while. they're ready and waiting for it. for them, it's no big deal. it'll be a slaughter. think waco.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:31 | Link to Comment dnarby
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The problem with your thesis is that among the people they've been cornholing are the rank and file cops and soldiers.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:20 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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My internet went out yesterday after I made a joke in a chat room about the dollar not needing to pretend it's worth something after the treasury auction.  Post Hoc, but now I read this, I'm not so sure...

duh duh duhhhhhhh....

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Hondo
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Their fear is that when the revolution starts they don't want it broadcast like town hall meetings to help spread the revolt.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:44 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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Jay Rockefeller's work, WHAT a SURPRISE!

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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"What Rockefeller is infinitely more afraid of than any kind of terror attack against this country is the capability of the internet to spread the truth about what is going on in the world."

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:46 | Link to Comment ewmayer
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Ha - looks like some of the gambling addicts that have stormed that particular roulette table the last couple days in order to "let it ride on Black" just had their balls end up Red.

But fear not, once the current take-money-from-the-greater-fool orchestrated stop-loss-cascade is over, the casino insiders will probably commence the next shorts squeeze and run it up to 100. Lather, rinse, and repeat.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:55 | Link to Comment deadhead
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aig this a.m. at 55.90 was a superb buy

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Jeanbon
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A break in the S&P500 below 1014 

would spark a huge sell-off.

AIG buying frenzy is the best example

how much dumb money is chasing the 

market right now.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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The guy that bought at $55.90--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueuauKKjPZI

 

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:04 | Link to Comment Jeanbon
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No, this is definitely Bernanke, 

next year, when we see the real

impact of the FED's policy.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Digital Gunfire
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Reckless gambling by daytraders or not it doesn't matter.
Just like in March 2000.

It WILL end with people losing their shirt again...

In other news 

Good news for Dell, good news for Intel.

All aboard ? Sure ? ok. Intel +1cent since the open, Dell -44 cent.

*Doh*

 

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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alas we can not comment as we are in a quiet period while we fianlize our LBO by a prominent investment bank consortium.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:28 | Link to Comment jdun
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The only thing that HFT help are a handful of companies that steal money from investors.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Project Mayhem
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HFT is bullshit.  It's not a 'one second lag' -- the trade is placed as ACTIVE for a minimum of one second -- or whatever minimum time is required for a human (not computer) response..  Read what Denninger wrote about this.

 

"

I can think of three relatively-minor changes that would leave those who are using HFT legitimately unharmed but would destroy most of the ability to cheat.  These are:

  1. Eliminate the 'flash order' entirely.  All market participants must get order and flow information at the same time - no exceptions.
  2. Force all orders (e.g. IOC, etc) to be valid for a reasonable minimum period that allows human response.  1 second would meet this criteria; it would destroy the ability of the "robots" to use abusive order patterns without preventing the legitimate use of "immediate or cancel" orders.  The time selected must be greater than the average human reaction time plus round-trip network transit time within the nation; visual recognition time for young adults averages a bit over 200 milliseconds (0.2 seconds) exclusive of the response (e.g. a mouse click) and round-trip transit time on high-speed circuits cross-country (corner-to-corner) is approximately 100ms.  Thus the minimum acceptable time is in the neighborhood of 500ms assuming no intervening computer computational delays (e.g. brokerage servers, etc); doubling this to provide for a margin (not all people are 20 years old, there are typically multiple computers between the exchange and end user, charting or display software requires time to post the event on the screen, etc) seems reasonable.
  3. Define as "front running" by law any scheme or practice that exposes or discovers orders to any select group of players before the market as a whole, irrespective of how.  The unfortunate reality is that there is no mechanism available to prevent computers from exploiting asymmetric information; ergo, you must define the provision or discovery and use of any such asymmetric information in the public markets as a criminal offense.  Penalties should include treble forfeiture of all profits gained from such an abuse and a permanent ban on all access to the securities business as well as prison time."

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1259-High-Frequency-Trading-Is-A-Scam.html

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1262-High-Frequency-Trading-My-View.html

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Jeanbon
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSdxqIBfEAw

the guys on the ship could be AIG buyers...

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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The Treasury market is now sucking all the oxygen out of the room.

Better get used to it, because it's gonna get worser and worser. All the "excess liquidity" is there for the benefit of Treasuries, not stocks.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Kaiser Soze
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I'll partially agree with that, if Treasuries flop, they are fucked, but a similar situation exists for equities, although they wouldn't be fucked as badly.

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 15:06 | Link to Comment darkness (not verified)
Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Dr Hackenbush
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“Expert” on CNBC calls AIG "reckless speculation."  Not sure the liquidity robots understand what reckless is, but the liquidity their adding smells a bit like kerosene. 

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 13:27 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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How can it be reckless when it's been pre-programmed for 0 risk?  I don't think that CNBC understands what algo trading is yet. 

Fri, 08/28/2009 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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