Euro Surges On News Chinese White Knight To Make Repeat Appearance, Attempt To Bail Out Europe For Second Time (Just As Unsuccessfully)

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Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:17 | 1311288 Ray1968
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Short the spike. TD is right... this will soon fade.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:37 | 1311337 Ahmeexnal
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Gives anyone wishing to dump their euros a little more bang for the euro so they can then exchange it for PMs, cocoa beans, parrot feathers, bags of salt, dung beetles, or any other tradeable items worth something,  before the euro -and the rest of all paper money- collapses to recycled toilet paper status.

 

In other news, China is building a new "wall of China" in order to prevent the hungry smelly dirty uncultured paupers of europe from entering the middle kingdom when TSHTF.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:50 | 1311410 Concentrated po...
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What's the bid/ask on dung beetles.  I WTB.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 00:38 | 1311990 Cdad
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Seriously, is this the reason the Euro just went apeshit?

The market saw sizable stop-loss euro purchases at $1.4120 and $1.4150, encouraged by a Financial Times article quoting the chief executive of the European Financial Stability Facility as saying China was "clearly interested" in buying bonds for the Portugal bailout to be issued in mid-June.  Reuters

 

You mean that a desperate bailout king in Euroland says this...with no actual bailout bond buying, and the Euro moves 2 cents?  So this non story is placed to suggest we are good through June?   You have got to be kidding me.  So I guess the criminal syndicate known as Wall Street was very nervous about that S&P 100 day sma issue today. 

Zero market integrity.  None.  In fact, more evidence that there is no market anymore.  

Good grief [and by that I mean just commence with the zombie apocalypse already because this bullshit is getting so tiring that I rather think I would prefer a world with the flesh eaters to one with these jack ass bankers]

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 00:52 | 1312021 Orly
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I'm about yay tired of getting monkey-hammered by this crap myself.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 01:25 | 1312076 RoRoTrader
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what are you like a fucking saint or something, orly?.........here's the way i see it; China bails out the US for Years and that no longer works so its on to the next lowest common denominator which is nation states within a single currency union with a negotiated backstop by the ECB which itself is technically bankrupt.

and, to top that off the mayor of Dublin, Ireland is selling the notion that the Chinese will be coming to the Party....with plastic santas for all dummies to go around.

where is the ira when it is needed

get real........not you, Orly.... you are more than real.

can we spell/smell desperation...........the mayor of Dublin......cash is obviously King

can you just imagine the historic implications of the Chinese in Paris?!?!.......NO!!!!!!

short the GBP, equity indexes, NZD tonight........looking to short OIL

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 01:39 | 1312106 Harlequin001
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China prints a shit load of new Renminbi which it uses to buy a US T Bill, pledges that as collateral to a European bank for a credit line which it uses to buy Irish or any other kind of imploding debt.

If the US dollar tanks, China simply prints more money and buys another US T with which it makes good on its collateral to the European banks. If Ireland fails it demands hard assets in repayment.

This shit has got to stop. Our politicians are committing TREASON, for which we will need to slaughter our children on the mantle of nationalism when the Chinese come demanding payment on their debt.

The Chinese conjured this stuff up from thin air and will demand hard assets in repayment. What does it take to get people to understand this? These politicos are selling our countries out for nothing.

People have been shot for less...

It will take complete repudiation of all these debts and a gold standard to stop this, nothing less.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 03:34 | 1312239 Orly
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But couldn't it work in the opposite direction for the Chinese?  I mean a blowback or backfire?

Suppose the Chinese conjure up renminbi and then turn around and buy all of this European paper.  Maybe they have to sell US dollars to do it and hedge their bets with physical metal, precious and base.  The USD continues to go into the tank and it turns out Gross was right and that Treasuries are a bad move.

The world panics as the US has to raise rates to raise capital and the flight is again to precious metals but not necessarily the USD.  The Chinese print more money to buy gold and European sovereign debt because they are now in the pickle they were before with the US, in that they have to keep buying or the whole thing comes down around their ears.

Inflation in China soars.  The price of gold and silver and copper and zinc soar along with it.  There comes a massive slowdown in the US economy- another round of stagflation- and we muddle through.

Meanwhile, commodity prices come off hard, maybe even crash.  The Chinese are forced to sell their commodities at a massive loss in order to keep their European investment hopes alive.  The economy is basically insolvent.

There are riots in the streets of Beijing.  US manufacturing comes back strong with new investment.  The Chinese economy becomes a net importer and inflation soars again in basic goods.

Two billion people say no mas (or whatever it is they say in China...) and there is a massive regime change, making the Middle Kingdom safe for Western "democratic" capitalism.

It seems they are going from the frying pan to the fire on this one.  I think it's all in the plan. The old bait-n-switch.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 05:25 | 1312315 Harlequin001
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Orly, I think the problem here is that you're still thinking pre crash. China has a problem ostensibly with a rising currency from a budget surplus, the US has the oposite. China needs a good reason to slam the Yuan whereas for the USD it is inevitable.

I can see no good reasson why the Chinese would want to hedge their bets with pm's; they want a weaker currency and magicing it up from fresh air is their only way to weaken it; buying USD's first slows the dollars decline in the short term.

My problem is that they are using this money created from nothing to compete with me and everyone else's hard earned cash. When they call it having been given hard collateral in exchange we will be at war.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 07:10 | 1312405 Zeilschip
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People on ZH are forgetting that the average income in some parts in (western) China is around $2. I mean China is waaay from becoming a global player, all the stories about China's $3 trillion reserves, well US firms have $3 trillion parked just outside the US, never mind what they have inside the US.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 07:36 | 1312446 Harlequin001
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I think this is getting off topic a bit, China is better known for its human wave tactics as opposed to sophisticated military technology, my point being that the US cannot afford its carriers and missiles; it is not the ascent of China but the decent of the West that is the problem.

My point in all of this is that there is no limit to how much of your stuff I can buy if I can create unlimited free money in my own currency, and there is no limit to how much pain you can suffer trying to repay it if you can't print it.

We need a gold standard, pure and simple...

Sovereign wealth funds should be banned.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 07:39 | 1312447 Harlequin001
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'People on ZH are forgetting that the average income in some parts in (western) China is around $2.'

absolutely, just think what happens next when a $5 bag of rice goes up by $5.

China calls in its debt to buy rice...

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 07:09 | 1312400 Mountainview
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The Chinese will buy the Greek Crown-Jewels,i.e. the last cash flow positive assets the Greek State owns. Afterwards it's darkness and default + exit EURO.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 01:26 | 1312079 tiger7905
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Great Rob McEwen interview. His perspectives on Europe and bailouts, as well as gold and silver of course.

http://goldandsilverlinings.com/?p=1071

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 08:53 | 1312651 Pegasus Muse
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Good stuff.  McEwen is one of the best CEOs in PM the mining industry.  His interests are properly aligned with stockholders.  Own stock in his companies.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 07:32 | 1312438 Popo
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Easiest short ever.   Why do monetarists think they're in the driver's seat?   The arrogance would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:18 | 1311294 chump666
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I know what a joke.  China is a economic and financial joke.  Check the NZD spike, claims are coming out china that they will buy New Zealand too!  So looking forward to China's meltdown in 2011.

 

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:55 | 1311646 something fishy
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Go NZD! 

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 07:19 | 1312408 Zeilschip
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Let me guess. You looking forward to making cheap shoes and toys in the US doing 14 hour shifts right? Question is though do you have the necessary skills?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:25 | 1311301 lolmao500
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China has got to do something useful with their useless dollars. Like buying bankrupt countries so they can be their slaves in the future.

In other news :

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-fbi-files-alleging-aipac-the...

New FBI Files Alleging AIPAC Theft of Government Property and Israeli Espionage Released

So... how long before those AIPAC traitors are arrested?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:50 | 1311406 Bay of Pigs
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This part caught my eye,

"These files, available on the Internet for the first time, reveal activities that undermined rule of law and governance.  They have wrought massive economic harm to American businesses and workers.  We urge all concerned Americans to carefully review and ponder the implications of these FBI files and other documents now available from the Israel Lobby Archive."

War on Terror indeed. Who are we fighting again?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:43 | 1311592 Fedophile
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In 1985 Israel had a GDP a full 2/3s of one percent of US GDP; how much damage could have been done?

That part caught your eye because it's sensationalized. If the headline read, "a little political espionage and back and forth over tariffs that would effect only 7 companies", like the reports did (but who follows up on sources?) no one would have taken a second look.

It's a non issue; nothing to see here.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 00:22 | 1311739 Cthonic
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I used to wear a blue suit to a certain system program office every day and learned rather quickly which foreign military sales attachés required the utmost vigilance.  It would be an error to downplay the scope or opportunistic nature of their intelligence gathering operations.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 23:20 | 1311746 Bay of Pigs
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Fedohile,

Thanks for catching the date on that. 

Why the hell is this old news being posted right now lolmao500? I don't like AIPAC, but a 26 year old story?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 23:25 | 1311751 Cthonic
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Because the FBI just declassified and posted it recently.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:29 | 1311314 luckylogger
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double down always worked really well for me.

Didn't one of those Arab countries double down on Citi stock at 35 or so?

LOL

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:50 | 1311418 Concentrated po...
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The doubling down has been watching POTUS grab ankles and "double down" for his arab brethren.  Shameful.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:35 | 1311571 Kevin... Who su...
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When you bet small..... You lose when you win?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:28 | 1311328 MountainLotus
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China want to buy a lot of EURO bonds so that it can get rid of some of US dollar and some europeans might have feel more good toward China.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:37 | 1311583 Spitzer
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Eurozone: Fuck it, we are going to kick in freegold

China: Wait...We want to get more gold first

Eurozone: Ok then, buy some bonds

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:52 | 1311630 Ahmeexnal
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More likely:

eurozone: Please help me, I'm european!

China: Confucius say we buy some eurotrash bonds, but with collateral.

eurozone: anything you ask, but please help me, I'm european!

China: Confucius say we take all gold and your women under 25 as collateral.

 

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:34 | 1311329 mynhair
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Surges?  WTF?

1 hr for USDHUF to break below 190, or I'm going to bed.

(With a set 189 buy in)

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:28 | 1311330 gwar5
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China is smart.

They get to play the good guy and prospect for future European naval bases. The ECB  will be still left to face the pitchforks.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 05:59 | 1312338 ForexFilms
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Yeah, maybe China will be the new ECB when it's all over.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:33 | 1311353 chump666
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It's a distraction for their (China's) illiquid time bombs - banks.  China should just stick to what they do best building more zombie apartment loans and malls and excepting imported inflation from the US.

Some say we got 2-5yrs before the whole financial systems just collapses.  I am looking at 2011 when i hear this vomit from China

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:37 | 1311354 Ecoman11
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Christine Lagarde who? Don't worry baby, Daddy is in town now.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:38 | 1311360 mynhair
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She be ugly.  Best they can do?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:45 | 1311382 knukles
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Full tilt hegemony gets a little great, a lot mediocre and a whole bunch just plain nasty.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:46 | 1311401 Ahmeexnal
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she so feckin ugly, she could be a modern masterpiece

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:13 | 1311489 disabledvet
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well--she was named after a car with an attitude problem.  and we all know about women who are compared to cars...

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:37 | 1311365 wretch
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Never go full retard, man.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:40 | 1311366 AccreditedEYE
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What fools.. They keep trying to buy power in an Anglo-dominated world. They better keep building aircraft carriers because they are going to need them to collect.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:41 | 1311371 frippy
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How stupid is China? Prediction: when America cedes the crown of alpha dog, China will not be there to claim it. I bet Germany comes in and scoops it up while China fumbles with its ridiculous 1000000 year plan.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:44 | 1311381 FLUSA.com
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Tyler....what are your thoughts on Schiff vs. NIA....

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:44 | 1311391 Tyler Durden
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Haven't followed it, but here a counter question: in exposing fraud and corruption, which the NIA has done in recent months, some of which work has ended up on Zero Hedge, has it backed its findings and observations with facts, and if so, is it providing incremental information over and above what is available in the Borg?

If so, who cares if Vision Victory, or whoever is the purported head of the organization, is the 3rd coming of Tim Sykes?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:45 | 1311400 Concentrated po...
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I defer to Mr. Durden.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 22:02 | 1311444 FLUSA.com
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Ronald Regan had it right..."Trust but verify.." holds true with any of our sources.... I don't mess around with Penny stocks anyways because I prefer my gambling to be conducted in Casinos....I still hope they are above board so as not to taint their message...

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:46 | 1311394 Concentrated po...
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Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:42 | 1311384 Cult_of_Reason
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Buffet said, "You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out."

China is trying to prevent the tide going out because China is swimming naked too.

If there is another global financial crisis that start in Europe, Chinese Ponzi scheme economy will be exposed.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:45 | 1311385 mynhair
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This is looking way too wonky.  Taking 2 USDHUF at 190.7, if it gets there.

Ok, got 1.  Back to 189.

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