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Europe: A Continent Of Lies And Broken Promises; How The EU Elite Got It Wrong On The Euro

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Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:27 | 380495 slowcoder
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In dust we trust

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 23:16 | 380678 DeeDeeTwo
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How exactly is the above not business as usual, baby? And compared to much of the 20th century... EU today is a long, lazy day at the beach. Wake me up when the tanks go-go.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 11:10 | 381016 Zina
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American citizen arrested in Mexico City for not carrying documents:



Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:40 | 380502 Belrev
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The Euro elite, as you call it, has been faithful servants of the House of the Rothschilds for hundreds of years now. They got nothing wrong. They are executing the plan of their masters to the letter.

If Hugh Hendrys and Tyler Durdens of the world are smart enough to understand what has been taking place economically for many years, the Rothchilds who have been doing this for centuries certainly know and understand it very well, and then some.

We don't need to hear another Mike Shedlock nonsense about "silly" economists and politicians. The silly does not exist in the land of the elites.

The main purpose of any government today is to pretend to fail. And when it "fails" the House pockets hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:41 | 380514 ratava
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Rothschild my ass, are you an actual lunatic or a psyop trying to discredit ZH?

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:42 | 380518 Belrev
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As Salvador Dali used to say, "let the idiots remain in their blissful idiocy".

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:53 | 380531 ratava
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Yeah, its one family organizing all this shit, not a whole class of bankers, politicians and college profs who are too tangled up in each others special interests to do the right things. Picking scapegoats is easy, trying to come up with ideas for reform of an antiquated and inefficient system is hard.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:56 | 380536 Belrev
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Oh, it is much safer to discuss how China controls USA, or to talk about Italian or Russian mafia. But got forbid to even mention those who've got the real power. Those you cannot criticize. That causes weak knees and forceful denial of truth, just to cover one's ass.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:04 | 380548 ratava
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It takes evidence to convince me, i have been quite high up the rungs and I did not see no Rothschilds, just well educated fools trying to preserve the status quo by listening to the lobbyist 'experts'.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:10 | 380565 Belrev
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Based on the content of Tyler's blog I have had high expectations for the intelligence of posters here, and for their understanding of how things work. But I am being just shocked, plain shocked at how will fully ignorant they are. Just like on some CNN or NY TImes board, where all those citizens of supposedly free countries constantly beat about the bush by talking about "banksters", "special interests", "liberals", "neocons" etc, fearing to name things with their own name. Is this the state of freedom and free speech in the West? If so, what is everybody so afraid of so much? Or who?

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:24 | 380590 ratava
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i give up. i aint afraid of anything but occams razor. cockup before conspiracy unless there is evidence.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:32 | 380598 Belrev
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There is evidence. That is if you have a pair to even see it to the end.


Sat, 05/29/2010 - 00:26 | 380747 snowball777
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Please tell sister-momma not to let you play with the computer anymore, Jethro.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 00:55 | 380771 Apostate
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Hahaha, David Duke again!

The Rothchilds are really not that big of a deal. Just another dumbassed inbred WASP family with a little money kicking around and an impressive history.

There are many, many, many clans similar to them. Ultimately, it's comforting to believe that one small tribe is in power. The reality is that it's a constant push-pull competition amongst various factions and individuals vying for power.

Anyway, everyone knows that this is all a plot by the lizard men. 

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 01:03 | 380777 Alienated Serf
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belrev and his ilk are content to take the bait of someone taking advantage of his low intelligence and lack of self esteem.  "it isn't your fault, it is THEIR fault."

scapegoating only works on the weak.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 04:20 | 380874 jeff montanye
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belrev seems sad, but the rothschilds are wasps?  and david duke is a painful racist but there is more than a grain of truth in calling the msm israeli-occupied (actually likudnik tool is more accurate).  not quite as much as it once was, but still quite puzzled why the u.s. keeps being the object of muslim hate and violence.  ps. didn't a rothschild-related bank get into real trouble recently re: the euro zone crisis?  guess they didn't read the world domination memo.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 02:17 | 380816 Popo
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Please go back to the Yahoo! boards.  You'll be more comfortable there.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 04:32 | 380876 Votewithabullet
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Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:05 | 380551 Cheeky Bastard
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You, dear sir, are a fucking moron. not that you lack the company, but you really take the prize.

Sun, 05/30/2010 - 04:10 | 381965 velobabe
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You, dear sir, are a fucking moron.

                                                 over used

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 01:00 | 380775 Alienated Serf
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belrev is an agent here to destroy ZH cred or a complete moron.  either way, he should probably kill himself.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 01:34 | 380791 johan404
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Be quiet you imbessile! Belrev is a misunderstood genius. You dare mock him, do you?

He is right. The Rothschild family controls every aspect of our lives. They own the banks, and through them the governments of the world. They micromanage the tiniest details of our lives, so that their long-hold vision of world domination comes to fruition. Evelyn de Rothschild even closes my toilet lid when I forget to do it, so there. You see? CAN YOU SEE THE LIGHT?!

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 09:08 | 380942 badameli
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It's true - just 45 minutes ago - one of them showed up and told me to hold off on my bowel movement because it wasn't scheduled for another 15 minutes.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:01 | 380541 Cheeky Bastard
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Just.Fucking.LOL..... Man.


Sat, 05/29/2010 - 07:38 | 380566 velobabe
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Sat, 05/29/2010 - 07:36 | 380567 velobabe
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oh no

    another double



Sun, 05/30/2010 - 03:35 | 381955 Problem Is
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I'm flaging you for lack of chest avatar... ; }

Sun, 05/30/2010 - 04:13 | 381966 velobabe
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s u b m i s s  i o n

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:43 | 380613 tony bonn
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please do not waste time on the fucktards....you are absolutely correct to finger the rothschilds along with the rockefellers in a triumverate of evil with the british monarchy....the bush crime syndicate plays a very important role....it is not yet monolithic global fascism but critical mass has almost arrived....

the sociopathic frat boys have not finished their pyromania but icarus is on his last feathers.....

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 01:43 | 380798 StychoKiller
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So, which group is secretly controlling the Vatican Bank?

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 07:08 | 380896 znork
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A candidate would be P2 (Propaganda Due), which was involved through Banco Ambrosiano. But then again this was the 70's, 80's in which the cold war was of some importance. They even made a movie of the whole scandal:


There is some evidence that Berlusconi was a member of the P2 group though.

So who knows how things are nowadays.


Sat, 05/29/2010 - 09:49 | 380916 MarketTruth
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Who Owns The Federal Reserve?

Leading 'the pack' is: N.M. Rothschild, London - Bank of England

Then there is:
J. Henry Schroder  Banking 
Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard & Company
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard

See a much more detailed list at


And yes, the Rothschild, Warburgs, etc also have their bloody hands in far more around the world.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 00:13 | 380731 marc_hanes
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Huh, I thought it was the Medicis up to all that no good...

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 11:26 | 381027 destiny
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despite what everyone thinks, i absolutely agree with this comment. i could nt strive more for people to find out on their own...it is a fact. many people know it in europe,

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 11:35 | 381033 Mesquite
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Ooh.. ya touched a hot button there...

Let the personal attacks begin...

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:35 | 380509 deadparrot
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All those countries are facing increases in interest rates at a time when they are either in recession or just limping out of one. The private sector in some of those countries is simply not viable at those higher rates”.


You know what they say about bankers... they'll lend you an umbrella when the sun is shining, but demand it back when it starts to rain. I'd have to pay 30% on my credit card if I ever had to carry a balance, and these deadbeats are complaining about paying 6%.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:40 | 380513 ratava
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Liars, cowards, hypocrites. There was a window of opportunity to kick Greece and then bail it out. First the rules, then solidarity. I wrote to my euro parliament members in March and told them so. Not a single reply, they are too important to listen to normal people. Allowing Greeks to keep Euro means other countries also have skeletons in their closets and the politicians are afraid of making the rules enforceable. Euro is deader than a gulf of mexico whale.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 21:47 | 380526 Belrev
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The vassals of the lord do not listen to the peasants, my naive friend. Democracy is over, for many years now. Get your pitchforks ready. Bwa ha ha.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:01 | 380542 Buck Johnson
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You hit it right on the head.  I've written about kicking Greece before out of the EU.  They lost their chance because as you said and it's correct, other countries have skeletons in their closet and they don't want to enforce those rules on themselves at any costs.  I see a a major major black swan imploding and it will force the countries to break apart the EU and the Euro so they won't have to pay the euro denominated debt.  What hasn't been talked about alot is the UK, they are in serious trouble and may need an IMF bailout in the near future.  There was a reason why Britain didn't join the euro currency, it's because it's impossible to inflate a countries debt away with a unified currency and that leaves the member countries stuck.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:15 | 380576 ratava
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I agree UK is up for a beating, just look at all the banks they nationalized that got like 300% of their GDP in total 'assets'. However, they have always been sort of a connected vessels with US. If anyone knows of all the crazy illegal shit going on in the US banking, it is the Brits and that alone may buy them some time.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:54 | 380638 Trichy
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I think you are confused. It wont be greece being kicked out of the euro. It will be ze germanz marching out with their boots on.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 02:14 | 380815 Chupacabra
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Who could blame them?

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 04:42 | 380879 Votewithabullet
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Nichtes mich.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:06 | 380554 Segestan
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Alot of lies , alot of mistruths , and even a great biblical expectation in the EU but also and alot of good plans .No good deed ever goes without the proper punishment. Ability mixed with an often naive sense of altruism, europe  is a deadly mix.

You can please some of the people some of the time but not all the people all the time. Europes social elites, of whatever self pro claimed illumination, architects and just plain naive dreamers, be these religionist or socialist dreamers just didn't know when to stop to, when to  limit the project, and to help that lack of foresight play out,  the competition of politics, of religion ,  of usury in commerce, all lead down the road of ruin.

Sat, 05/29/2010 - 04:41 | 380878 Votewithabullet
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 Fucking que?

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:26 | 380592 brodix
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The problem is not the Rothschilds and Co. but their invention. The debt based currency. It does have one very effective property. Debt tends to grow roughly proportional to productivity and for a stable economy, the money supply has to grow in tandem with productivity. Throughout much of history there has not been enough information on the state of the economy to effectively determine how much money needs to be introduced, so not only has this method entailed a reasonably stable money supply, but requires ever expanding growth to pay down the debt and thus the overwhelming effectiveness of capitalism. The great flaw in the system are that it requires ever expanding growth to pay down the debt, even when such growth isn't sustainable. Since it also requires ever expanding debt to maintain a sufficient money supply, this death spiral is inevitable. 

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:35 | 380601 Belrev
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Rest assured, that their agents are already working hard to infiltrate and lead any movement that may arise on the ruins of the soon to be collapsed economic and political order.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:49 | 380629 brodix
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Top predators are often very susceptible to the collapse of their supporting ecosystem.

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 22:37 | 380608 ratava
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we found a crutch, the pseudo money created by leverage and derivatives. too bad their value eventually returns to zero and the pseudo money gets sucked back, creating a deflationary spiral.

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