European Growth Dynamo Getting Dim - March German Manufacturing Orders Plunge, Kill Any Possibility Of ECB Rate Hike

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Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:24 | 1242321 Cassandra Syndrome
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Quantitative Easing cannot end. If it does end, it simply resets back to the purpose it was first set up for.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:31 | 1242331 AUD
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Could this sudden, or maybe not so, hold on rates be behind the current rush into bonds?

The Yen is strong, the bond speculators might be looking to make a quick profit in Jap bonds on the back of the BoJ's Masaaki 'easy' Shirakawa.

 

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:32 | 1242334 Quintus
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So let me get this straight.  The real economy is collapsing again in Asia, Europe and America.  Interest rates are going to stay down for 'An Extended Period' (i.e. Forever) and more QE is coming (EU/US) or in progress (Japan).

Deficit and debt are massively problematic everywhere and credit ratings are reaching the outer limits of credibility, even for the bought-and-paid-for ratings agencies.

Meanwhile thanks to the criminals at Comex, protection from the impending next wave of financial catastrophe in the form of Gold and Silver is on sale at bargain basement prices.

Excellent.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:36 | 1242338 Sophist Economicus
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Is this a great world, or what!    If it wasn't for bone-head politicos, making money would be ooooh soooo boring...

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:37 | 1242339 Cassandra Syndrome
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But they got Bin Laden, so everything will be a-ok.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 08:40 | 1242553 Popo
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True.  True.  But keep in mind that the economies of the first world have teetered on the edge of collapse (and indeed have collapsed, as in 1999-2000) several times in the past 20 years.

And where was silver?

Not everything always works the way it *should* work.

 

 

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:39 | 1242343 HitTheFan
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Wow, ZH not mocking a Goldman Euro call....it's the twilight zone today.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 08:17 | 1242450 idea_hamster
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Today is opposite day -- ZH declared it oppositely by not declaring it.  (h/t Hobbes)

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:02 | 1243612 Smu the Wonderhorse
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You're making my tiny brain hurt.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:36 | 1242344 swissaustrian
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The ECB will hike rates, they want to fight inflation. That´s their mandate.

REAL rates are still way negative. Official (!) CPI is above 2 % yoy.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:49 | 1242367 Quintus
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Umm no.  The ECB cannot raise rates because then the Eurozone will fall apart.  Sorry Germany, those promises you got about 'No Bailouts', 'Strong Currency like the DM' and 'No Inflation' when you surrendered economic sovereignty aren't worth the paper they are written on.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:40 | 1242352 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Reality is creeping upon the world's Central Banksters! The real economy is collapsing as it should have back in 2008. Print away, no one will put any faith in you any more. The SHTF moment is coming very close.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:44 | 1242362 Tense INDIAN
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JUST look at the Indian shares FALL...today fell for the 9th straight day. longest fall in 9 YEARS!!!!!

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:58 | 1242388 AUD
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How's the currency doing?

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 08:20 | 1242451 Hephasteus
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Why not blog link? Show us.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:46 | 1242365 Thepnr
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Italian unions on general strike tomorrow followed by Greece on 11th May, unrest in Europe among those most affected by the cuts can only get worse.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 07:59 | 1242391 Bartanist
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I am just a little bit slow: "Why is growth good?"

Is it indicative of a better standard of living or what is the deal that it is the be all and end all?

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 08:07 | 1242400 Quintus
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In a system where all money is borrowed into existance and must be repaid with interest, there is by definition never enough money in the world to repay all the Principal+Interest, i.e P < P+I

The only way this ponzi scheme can continue is by constant growth whereby an ever increasing quantity of new money is perpetually being borrowed into existance to enable the existing principal + Interest to be repaid.  

As soon as growth stops, debts cannot be repaid and the entire system collapses.

This is why we have an inflation 'Target' in all western countries.  Politicians and banker cannot keep prices stable and have zero inflation because then there would be no constant growth in the money supply.  It is also why Deflation cannot exist in our pure fiat systems.  If there is no inflation, the system collapses.  Deflation is not an option and that is why QE will continue forever OR the entire monetary system will simply collapse.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 08:16 | 1242445 Hephasteus
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-4 percent is a lie. Too many pants pissers to be true.

Too many weird ass scientific discoveries.

Too many battleship moments.

Too many bin laden killings and terrorism alerts that come from freezing and stealing money.

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 08:38 | 1242528 steve from virginia
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China demand for German 'putz' has shrunk, reflecting diminished 'growth' (cancer) in China.

China is between 'rock' and 'hard place' with either continued hyperinflation or a property- driven deflationary crash. More inflation means more demand for F/X and increase in euro against the dollar/yuan. The process stifles German (car) exports while not enriching the Chinese a corresponding amount. (US currency traders make the money. Falling buck is money maker for F/X traders.)

W/O China there is no 'there, there' in Europe as most of the countries are essentially bankrupts with no domestic energy production but practically unlimited demand along with nothing to 'trade' for energy other than Deutchmarks (euros) they are able to borrow by way of finance ponzi schemes.

The EU/Trichet & Co. get down on their knees and pray to god for more hyperinflation in China, that PBOC continues to print and that the US QE/easing continues so as to support the only 'asset' the EU has to offer the world besides accelerated capital consumption (carz) ... the 'Euro'.

Trichet & Co. dare not beg Bernanke for more easing as he will refuse on the grounds that he was asked: the EU is in a vice. The F/X euro shorts are circling like hyenas (along with dollar longs who will make an absolute killing when Bernanke gives the EU the finger.) It's ging to get ugly, folks!

Meanwhile, the agony in the US is whether the PBOC will raise rates high enough to stifle hyperinflation? A 'hard landing' (as per Roubini) would trigger then next deleveraging event: for this would take place during a period of Fed support ...

The Fed would be swept away along w/ institutional support. Hang onto your hats ...

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