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European Sovereign Debt Crisis Deepening - Risk of Contagion And Bond Market Crash, And Why Rising Rates Mean Gold Strength

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European Sovereign Debt Crisis Deepening - Risk of Contagion And Bond Market Crash

There is a real sense of the “calm before the storm” in markets globally. Complacency reigns, despite signs that the sovereign debt crisis in Europe is deepening and that Japanese and US bond markets also look very vulnerable due to rising inflation, very large deficits and massive public debt.

Gold in Japanese Yen – 6 Months (Daily) GoldCore

Gold in Japanese Yen – 6 Months (Daily)

The unfortunately named PIIGS have seen their bond yields rise sharply again in recent days. Greek, Irish and Portuguese bonds in particular have come under pressure on concerns of deepening economic contractions and possible defaults.

Greek bonds fell for a ninth day after a report showed the nation’s economy shrank for a 10th consecutive quarter. In less than 2 weeks, the yield on the Greek 10-year has risen sharply from 10.804% to 11.750%.

Greek 10 Year Bond Yield – 1 Year (Daily) GoldCore

Greek 10 Year Bond Yield – 1 Year (Daily)

Irish two-year notes fell sharply this morning, pushing the yield to the highest since the introduction of the euro in 1999. The yield increased 10 basis points to 7.26 percent in London after jumping as high as 7.56 percent. The Irish 10-year yield rose three basis points to 9.26 percent.

Peripheral sovereign bonds remain under pressure despite considerable support and outright purchases by the ECB.

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Ireland Government Bond 10 Year – 1 Year (Daily)

Sovereign debt issues are not confined to the eurozone and there is a real risk of the contagion spreading to other large debtor nations, including Japan and the US.

A Japanese minister denied overnight that there was any chance of a Japanese default on their massive government debt (see News). Japanese bond prices came under selling pressure with the yield on the 10 year rising to 1.36% and gold prices in Japanese yen rising to JPY 115,000 near the recent nominal record of JPY 118,000 seen in December (see charts above and below).

Gold in yen terms is still more than 25% below the nominal high of 30 years ago which should give those calling gold a bubble pause for thought.

Gold in Japanese Yen – 40 Year (Quarterly) GoldCore

Gold in Japanese Yen – 40 Year (Quarterly)

US Treasuries have been sold by some of the largest investors (both private and sovereign) in the world recently (see news). These include large creditor nations Russia and China but also PIMCO, the largest bond fund in the world.

The estimated cost to service the US National Debt of $14.09 trillion is $240 billion for fiscal year 2011 alone. The US national debt now equals the value of the entire US economy in GDP terms.

This is making investors nervous and they are rightly demanding and will continue to demand higher interest rates for the increased risk of financing the US’ unsustainable fiscal and monetary policies.

The Obama administration’s budget is seen by many as being optimistic in the extreme based as it is on the hope of rapid economic growth after two years of sluggish growth. The unpartisan Congressional Budget Office however does not share that optimism and thinks that the economy will continue to struggle.

A global sovereign debt crisis is now quite possible. At the very least, we are likely to have a long period of rising interest rates which will depress economic growth.

Contrary to some misguided commentary, rising interest rates will benefit gold as was seen when interest rates rose sharply in the 1970s. It was only towards the end of the interest rate tightening cycle in 1980, when interest rates were higher than inflation, that gold prices began to fall.

Gold’s importance as financial insurance and the fact that it cannot go bankrupt or default will also be increasingly important in the years ahead.

As ever, it is best to be optimistic but realistic and to hope for the best but be prepared for less benign scenarios by diversifying accordingly.

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(Bloomberg) -- Yosano Says Japan Debt Appeal Points to Zero Default
Japan’s bond market will find support from domestic investors even as government debt swells because they lack better alternatives, Economic and Fiscal Policy Minister Kaoru Yosano said.

“I see zero chance of Japanese government bonds nosediving at the moment,” Yosano, 72, said in an interview in Tokyo today, responding to calls from opposition lawmakers to prepare for a collapse in government finances. “Investor still believe that the government, to a certain extent, is pursuing fiscal discipline.”

Members of the Liberal Democratic Party met today to discuss emergency measures the government needs to take should the nation’s bond market collapse, underscoring growing concern about public finances since Standard & Poor’s downgraded Japan’s credit rating for the first time in nine years. A former finance minister, Yosano has advocated raising taxes to pare debt and increase the sustainability of government finances.

“Long-term bond yields have been contained at incredibly low levels due to a lack of promising domestic investment opportunities,” Yosano said. Investors within the country also are able to absorb government debt, he said.

More than 90 percent of the nation’s government debt is held domestically. Japan accumulated a 17.1 trillion yen ($203 billion) current-account surplus in 2010 and is also the world’s second-largest holder of foreign reserves.

10-Month High
Benchmark government bond yields climbed to a 10-month high last week on expectations the economy is recovering after contracting in the fourth quarter. Borrowing costs driven by growth would differentiate Japan’s situation from that of Europe, where yields are rising over concern about the region’s fiscal woes, Yosano said.

Japanese government bonds have returned 9.8 percent in the past five years, according to indexes compiled by Bank of America Merrill Lynch. The Nikkei 225 Stock Average has declined more than 30 percent in the same period.

Japan’s public debt will probably increase 5.8 percent to 997.7 trillion yen in the year starting April 1, from a projected 943.1 trillion yen this year, the Finance Ministry forecasts. The nation’s debt load is forecast to reach 204 percent of gross domestic product this year, compared with 99 percent in the U.S., according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

Reputation Maintained
Yosano said the nation’s sovereign reputation has been maintained because investors see room for the government to raise its 5 percent sales tax to bolster revenue.

“If the government fails to undertake comprehensive tax and social welfare reforms, that would hurt Japan’s credibility,” he said.

Prime Minister Naoto Kan appointed Yosano last month to help lead discussions on whether to raise Japan’s sales tax. Yosano quit on Jan. 13 as a member of the opposition Sunrise Party, a group he formed in April after leaving the Liberal Democratic Party, which ruled Japan for five decades until the Democratic Party of Japan came to office in September 2009. Yosano served as LDP Finance Minister in 2009.

Yosano also said the Bank of Japan has made “extraordinary efforts” to bolster the economy by pursuing unconventional measures in the past years, an indication there isn’t much more it can do.

“Japan’s problem isn’t monetary policy -- it’s that the country has fewer investment opportunities that can offer a high expected rate of return,” compared with the past, Yosano said.

The central bank lowered its benchmark interest rate to near zero percent and pledged to purchase financial assets including corporate bonds and exchange-traded funds in October.

Yosano reiterated the government’s support for the U.S. dollar as the world’s key reserve currency. Officials of Group of 20 economies have said they will discuss the global currency system when they gather this week in Paris.

“It’s very important that the value of the dollar is maintained” because Japan has many dollar-denominated assets and is a major exporter, he said. “The U.S. hasn’t given up on its fundamental view” that a strong dollar is in their national interest, he said.

(Bloomberg) -- Gold Rises to Highest in Almost Four Weeks on Inflation Concern
Gold futures climbed to the highest in almost four weeks as rising consumer prices boosted demand for the precious metal as a hedge against inflation.

In January, China’s inflation accelerated as costs excluding food rose the most in at least six years, and U.K. consumer prices rose the most in more than two years. Billionaire investor George Soros increased his SPDR Gold Trust holdings by 0.5 percent in the fourth quarter, and John Paulson kept his investment unchanged.

“With inflation concerns heating up and the metals underpinned by a mix of physical and investment demand, it looks as if further gains are in the pipeline,” James Moore, an analyst at TheBullionDesk.com in London, said in a report.

Gold futures for April delivery rose $9, or 0.7 percent, to $1,374.10 an ounce at 1:42 p.m. on the Comex in New York. Earlier, the price reached $1,377.50, the highest since Jan. 19. The metal has climbed 26 percent in the past 12 months.

Surging food prices have spurred protests in North Africa and the Middle East, while Brent crude oil, a global benchmark, closed yesterday at the highest since September 2008.

“Currency debasement and higher food and energy prices are leading to an inflation surge in both developed and emerging markets,” Goldcore Ltd. in Dublin said in a report.

Silver futures for March delivery climbed 16.2 cents, or 0.5 percent, to $30.696 an ounce.

Palladium futures for March delivery rose $7.10, or 0.9 percent, to $839.90 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Silver and platinum have doubled in the past year.

Platinum futures for April delivery gained $4, or 0.2 percent, to $1,831.60 an ounce on the Nymex. The metal is up 21 percent in the past 12 months.

(Financial Times) -- China and Russia sell US Treasuries
China has sold billions of dollars in US Treasury bills for the second month in a row, even as strong buying from other foreign investors countered Beijing’s move to reduce its holdings.

A Treasury report on Tuesday showed net foreign demand for long-term US securities, including bonds and equities, was $41.8bn in December, versus $64.5bn in November. Monthly net Treasury International Capital flows rose to $48.2bn in December, up from $35.6bn in November and $17.2bn in October. The rise was driven by private investors, while official accounts, or foreign central banks, sold US assets for the second successive month.

Foreign private investor demand for US long-dated government debt remained solid in December and US Treasuries with maturities of more than a year recorded inflows of $55bn. But, short-term bills suffered a $37bn fall, after November’s $32bn drop.

Alan Ruskin, strategist at Deutsche Bank, said the mixed flows reflected foreign interest in longer-term Treasuries as yields rose. China, for example, bought $5bn of bonds and notes in December, but sold $9bn of Treasury bills. “The negative take for the bond market is that China reduced its overall Treasury holdings, but they have increased their exposure to US interest rates by buying longer-term Treasuries,” said David Ader, strategist at CRT Capital. “It is an important distinction.”

Russia also pared its Treasury holdings for the second month, down to $106bn from $122bn.

But the UK continued to drive demand for Treasuries with a rise to $541bn, up from $512bn in November and $208bn in January last year. That increase, according to analysts, reflected the UK’s status as a financial centre where Treasuries are bought by investors who are not domiciled in the country.

“Some of China’s Treasury purchases may also be showing up in UK-sourced data that has been consistently strong, but nonetheless, it looks like China was more actively trying to dodge the Treasury sell-off than most,” said Mr Ruskin.

Indeed, when the Treasury revises its data later this year the share of UK Treasury holdings is expected to drop sharply.

China remained the largest foreign holder of Treasuries at $892bn in December, down from $896bn the prior month. “According to these, admittedly backward-looking data, there is little immediate cause for concern that non-US investors are losing their appetite for US securities,” said Jeffrey Young, strategist at Barclays Capital. He estimated that the December inflow represented an annualised rate of about $575bn, enough to cover the US current account deficit.

Caribbean Banking Centres, a proxy for hedge funds, increased their holdings of Treasuries to $156bn in December, up from $139bn in October. Singapore and oil exporting countries also increased their Treasury holdings.

“This report points to continued strong demand for US securities among foreign investors and officials, underscoring the ease at which the Treasury is able to fund its borrowing needs in the open market,” said Millan Mulraine at TD Securities. Prices of US Treasuries rose slightly on Tuesday as the Federal Reserve bought almost $6.7bn of intermediate-dated debt. The yield on the 10-year note was 3.6 per cent.

(Financial Times) -- China pull-back paints unsettling rate picture
It is no secret that China’s appetite for Treasuries has been waning. Official figures now bear out Beijing’s stated desire to diversify away from US government debt.

The market impact is likely to be muted for now, given the Federal Reserve’s bond-buying under its “quantitative easing” programme. But what happens when QE2 ends in June? Beijing’s pull-back may then become noticeable.

The US Treasury market occupies the centre of the global financial system. It is the deepest and most liquid bond market in the world, and demand from central banks and institutional investors, including private sector banks and hedge funds, has allowed the American government to finance its multibillion-dollar budget deficits.

Indeed, the US is more dependent than other countries on foreign investors buying its debt. The UK, Italy and Japan are largely funded by domestic investors. So far, robust demand for Treasuries from the UK and, to a lesser extent, Japan and US domestic investors has helped offset China’s waning appetite over the past year. The Fed effect has been supportive, too. The US central bank has become the largest single holder of Treasuries, with $1,160bn, as it continues buying securities.

But as Barack Obama, US president, attempts to tackle the country’s burgeoning deficit with austere budget proposals, there are growing worries that the cost of servicing the national debt could grow. At some stage, US interest rates may jump sharply to keep attracting buyers of Treasury debt.

“The low level of yields currently may not be attractive and in the future the Treasury may need a higher real rate to attract capital,” says Gerald Lucas, senior investment adviser at Deutsche Bank. Treasury yields, which move inversely to bond prices, are already rising. Ten-year yields rose to 3.77 per cent last week, their highest since April, extending a three-month bear run from about 2.5 per cent.

Among the major foreign holders of Treasury debt, China has long been the largest and is seen as a bellwether of foreign investor participation. China ended 2010 with $891bn in Treasuries, extending its drop from a record high of $940bn in July 2009.

“The upward march in Chinese reserves has been accompanied by reduced participation in the Treasury market over the past year,” say analysts at TD Securities. “The implications for the US are not particularly daunting yet, but are nevertheless a bit troubling.”

US households, hedge funds, banks and private pension funds have increased their Treasury holdings in the past two years. But, as the economy recovers and inflation picks up, there is a risk these investors will seek better returns from other assets, equities for example, and not government debt.

The significance has not escaped policymakers and key players in the bond market: US debt servicing costs will amount to $240bn for the 2011 fiscal year, equivalent to the entire budget deficit in 2006, according to RBS estimates.

This month a group of bond market experts, representing some of the biggest banks and hedge funds investing in Treasuries, voiced its concern about the reliance on foreign buyers for purchasing a large slice of the country’s $9,000bn in outstanding government securities.

“Foreign ownership of Treasury debt was significant, with ownership concentrated among a few key foreign investors,” said the minutes from a meeting of the Treasury borrowing advisory committee. “A more diversified debt holder base would prepare the Treasury for a potential decline in foreign participation.”

One proposal advocated at the meeting for diversifying the base of investors would entail the Treasury issuing new securities, including “callable” debt, ultra-long bonds with maturities of up to 100 years and floating rate debt, on which payments to investors would rise and fall with inflation.

These securities could appeal to domestic investors, particularly prospective retirees. They could also enjoy increased demand from banks and pension funds as a result of new international banking rules and proposed reforms to pensions accounting. The advisory committee estimates demand for long-term US bonds could reach $2,400bn in the next five years as these new rules take effect. The alternative, should yields rise sharply, could be discomforting for taxpayers.

(Financial Times) -- Bank lays ground for interest rate rises
The Bank of England said monetary policy would need to be tightened to bring medium-term inflation back on track, confirming market expectations that interest rates would start rising in May.

In a letter to the chancellor George Osborne that was triggered by a 4 per cent increase in consumer prices last month on the back of surging food and petrol costs, Mervyn King said inflation was “likely” to return to the Bank’s official 2 per cent target on “the assumption that [the] Bank rate increases in line with market expectations”.

Mr King’s comments confirmed investor expectations of a series of quarter-point hikes in interest rates, beginning in May. Mortgage lenders have already withdrawn or repriced fixed rate deals in the expectation of higher interest rates.

Economists rushed to predict the Bank would raise rates earlier than before and were “astonished” at how direct the governor was in his letter. “I can’t ever remember anything laid out quite this explicitly before,” said Peter Westaway, chief European economist at Nomura and a former senior Bank official, adding that the letter was a green light to a May rate rise.

Michael Saunders of Citigroup described the governor’s letter as a “softening up exercise”, adding “that after today or tomorrow nobody could be surprised by a rate hike”. He thought Mr King’s heart might not be in such a move, but “the governor is not quite the centre of gravity of the MPC”.

Richard Barwell of RBS, a former Bank economist, said the inflation forecasts were now a signalling device to “pave the way for a hike in May and not really a genuine forecast of inflation”.

The prospect of higher interest rates sent sterling up 0.9 per cent against the currencies of Britain’s main trading partners, reaching a level not seen for more than five months.

Inflationary pressures in Britain, where prices are rising almost twice as fast as in the eurozone, stem partly from the pound’s 25 per cent depreciation since late 2007, which has pushed up import prices.

The Bank expects higher inflation even with the recovery held back by the weakest household income growth since the 1920s.
Mr Osborne sought to use the deteriorating inflation outlook to criticise Ed Balls, shadow chancellor, and those who want to slow the pace of public spending cuts. He said any delay in deficit reduction would “risk prompting an offsetting monetary tightening such that overall there would be little if any net impact on demand”.

Danny Alexander, chief secretary to the Treasury, told the cabinet on Tuesday that the year ahead would be difficult. Treasury officials fear that although the recovery remains fragile, faster growth would exacerbate inflation even further.

In response, Mr Balls said the government’s value added tax increase had made it harder for the Bank to set interest rates. “The problem is that if you’ve got too fast spending cuts and a VAT rise but inflation is going up too, it really is putting the Bank in a very difficult position,” he said.

(Bloomberg) -- Greek, Irish Banks Force ECB to Print More Money: Euro Credit
The European Central Bank is being forced to print money to bolster banks in bailed-out Greece and Ireland, leaving the region’s taxpayers on the hook as the final guarantors of those nations’ debts.

Greek and Irish banks have issued at least 70 billion euros ($95 billion) of bonds to create the collateral required to get cash from the ECB, according to the International Monetary Fund and regulatory filings, a figure that may rise to 100 billion euros after Greece said Feb. 11 it may extend another 30 billion euros of guarantees to its banks.

“What you have here is micro-quantitative easing, or money printing,” said Cathal O’Leary, head of fixed-income sales at NCB Stockbrokers in Dublin. “The banks are issuing unsecured loans to themselves.”

The ECB has vowed to eschew the type of monetary policy implemented by the Federal Reserve, whose bond-buying to boost growth has left it owning more Treasuries than are held by China, the biggest foreign buyer of U.S. debt. By granting loans against bank debt, the ECB is adding to the monetary base and would be out of pocket were the guarantors to renege.

The yield premium investors demand to hold Irish 10-year bonds rather than German securities is 593 basis points, up from 153 basis points a year ago. The spread between Greek and German 10-year bonds is 852 basis points, up from 305 basis points a year ago.

‘Stressed Market Conditions’
Ireland’s banks have issued at least 17.4 billion euros of notes backed by government guarantees, with 9.2 billion euros going to Bank of Ireland alone. The program amounts to 11 percent of Ireland’s 2009 gross domestic product.

“Access to ECB operations allows the banks in question to obtain funding that is not currently available in the continued stressed market conditions,” the Irish central bank said in an e-mailed response to questions.

Greece’s current state-guaranteed liquidity program is 55 billion euros, according to the IMF country report, equivalent to more than 20 percent of the nation’s $330 billion output in 2009. That’s on top of the 8 billion euros of zero-coupon bonds Greece has lent to the banks and 15 billion euros of direct capital injections, according to John Raymond, an analyst at CreditSights Inc. in London.

‘Huge Credit Exposures’
“To a very significant extent, the ECB is taking the place of capital markets,” said Alan Dukes, the former Irish finance minister who is now chairman of Anglo Irish Bank Corp., which posted Ireland’s biggest-ever loss in 2010. “The ECB is no longer in a position to pursue a clear monetary policy because it is running huge credit exposures,” he said in a speech last week.

Ireland has put 46.3 billion euros into its debt-laden banks in the past two years as property prices collapsed and loan losses soared. Irish-based lenders, including foreign-owned banks, received 126 billion euros of ECB funding at the end of January and as much as an additional 51.1 billion euros of “exceptional liquidity” from the Irish central bank, figures published on Feb. 11 show.

“The own-bond issuances are a pragmatic response in exceptional circumstances,” said Donal O’Mahony, global strategist at Davy Capital Markets in Dublin. “While the notes are not backed by the banks’ own assets, they are backed by the government guarantee, which is an important point. State- guaranteed notes are ECB-eligible collateral.”

‘Expensive Emergency Liquidity’
Greek banks, with 1.5 percent of European banking assets, and the Irish, with 5.5 percent, account for 17 percent and 24 percent of ECB borrowing, according to a Feb. 7 report by Laurent Fransolet and Giuseppe Maraffino at Barclays Capital in London.

“The ECB accepts government-guaranteed bonds as collateral,” said Maraffino. “The Irish banks are replacing expensive emergency liquidity with cheaper ECB funding. It’s just the way it works.”

As the lender of last resort, the job of the ECB is to ensure the European banking system has the liquidity it needs to function. While the nascent European Financial Stability Facility probably will have the task of ensuring solvency, for the moment the ECB has that role, too.

“This is a great example of bank risk moving to national government risk, and now to ECB risk,” said Jean Dermine, professor of banking and finance at INSEAD business school in Fontainebleau, France. “The ECB is increasing the money supply and that is raising inflationary pressure. There is also credit risk, the fact that default would lead to a loss for European taxpayers.”

‘Difficult to Distinguish’
Monetary growth in the euro area, as measured by M3 money supply which the ECB uses as a gauge for future inflation, turned positive in June and reached a 15-month high of 2.1 percent in November.

The ECB is calling on governments to step up efforts to restore confidence, to allow sovereigns and their banks to regain access to the capital markets.

“It’s difficult to distinguish banking and sovereign risk,” said Nicolas Veron, senior fellow at Bruegel, the Brussels-based economics research group. “What happens if there’s a default? Everyone would like to avoid testing that out in real life. Governments are really scared of the consequences of an actual restructuring.

 

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Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:29 | 966478 Turd Ferguson
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Buyer beware. Blythe is in the house but she presents us with a great opportunity.

http://tfmetalsreport.blogspot.com/2011/02/blythe-is-in-house.html

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:57 | 966538 EscapeKey
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Jeez, Gold is all over the place this morning.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:20 | 966606 Hephasteus
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There must be derivatives tied to price of silver and gold. They are not tolerating over 30 price on silver and they have to work really hard to keep gold from getting to credible striking distance of a breakage in case of bad news.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 13:03 | 967018 Misstrial
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Yes indeedy.

Gold & silver inverse ETFs = derivatives.

~Misstrial

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:18 | 966603 william the bastard
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Gold pimp must...grab...first...post...aggghhh

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:43 | 966694 blind squirrel
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LOL

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:45 | 966705 ColonelCooper
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If you'd quit gargling goat balls, you'd be able to speak more clearly.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:03 | 966778 tmosley
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Says the incarnation of the arrogance of ignorance.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:57 | 966756 geminiRX
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Hey Turd, what is your opinion on Kinross? Seems rather beaten down and not such a bad bargain in the low 16's?

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 17:45 | 968076 slewie the pi-rat
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1) the pretty girl, dressed in red, does NOT have her curl in the middle of her head.

2) kinross?  i bought it long ago, in a space-time "far away" as PART of a "balanced portfolio" of 4-5 stox: kinross,  shorty-torty, the Gfldz, Welkom, yes, the big, bad krugerRugerZ. it was de-fense, but inflation wuz the raging 'stag' @ the time, PLUS, i don't recall the exact #'s, but the dividendz were about 15% which i moved into Fidelty MoMkt Fundz.  X99 stuff, discount trading, $6/option contact, those were the daZe!  i did NOT try to get rich, then, and/or call the turns.  when the "spike" was in it's early stages, i had met my investment objectives, and got out, going all-in in the mo-mkt fund.  When Volker "took away the punchbowl"/or what-EVer, we were getting 18%/year, which DID get "reinfestered"/stayin in the Mo-MkFun. this was back when the FED, as well as everything else was not controlld, totally, by the polz and the bankz, and the lobbyist.  at least WE felt we still had some viable choices;  to bad we got that wrong. when that party died out, i went all-in in Cali RE, etc, and eventually cashed out, and then just screwed the pooch, got V careless in the first daze of the OEX, and augered in.  genRX:  what is Kinross, paying, now?  Ms. Red EscKey is absolutely pounding the true nail of upcoming volitilty, IMO;  paper?  Now?  if you have children and hair and want to protect both, be careful, ok?  Turd is brilliant, but unless and until he knowZ yer situ and objectivez, i doubt he can tell you much more than i, but, mebbe he can, and will.

3)  japan?  mr. bonner's "new trade of the decade" = sell T'z, buy japanese commonZ, i believe.  when i introduce peeps to his site, i always tell them: "IMO, he is the BEST there is."  clear, concise, real.  He and AW publish several agora skools, and they are xlnt places to Study & Learn.  i have raised holy hell all over his places, as you might, perhaps, imagine, but i hope we recognize each other as persons of good will.  we tend to "disagree" about only one thing really, and since his family and wealth situ is quite diff from mine, why not?  Mr. B has eyes all around his head and is very perceptive.  stocks?  well, yes, as above.  US stocks?  when the DJI gets to 5000, he'll buy!  until then, look out below!  i do NOT speak for him, AND i hardly ever get anything correct, so figure this out 4 yerself, ok?  but i think he has cattle that eat sand, somewhere or other.

4) Japan, deux:  as we see, from above the above article, the japanese are savers.  when gold and platinum reached parity,a few years back, they gobbled up ALL the platZ they could get on their plateZ.  if you believe THEIR guy, maybe BB is right, again! he is advising a spread, again, for this DECADE, but not to PM's, right now, unless BTFD'z (?) & no PM paper, IMO, and i do mean 0.  PM's?  i lmao'd when he advised his, again, DEFENSIVE strat: if you got it, which you should by NOW, bury it and try not to forget where!  I can't advise on his "acquisition strategies", b/c, after i decided i liked being "poor" much more than being "rich", i was/am pretty much outa the "game" except for some little fun, now and then.  i have tried to present my strategieZ on this site, as well as my reasoning, and my viewZ, as well as my values, and all i can say, is thank you for the oppotunity to do so, and play yer own hand, ok? oh...and, hopefully your heart, also.

5) Europe? ireland? greece?:  are the latter 2 gonna take-down the former 1?  i don't know, but here's a link to the blarney on the near horizon:  Irish general election, 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

i think andy capp may awaken to his own national archetype (the GOLDEN Harp) and rid him/herself of the poison of the the IMF, they may choose to default now and avoid the rush.  their call. nations?  yep. and cleaning house w/ rakes, too?  you decide what the HELL is going on, here, 4 yourself. 

6) china?  here's what the (imo) smartest 'austrian' on the planet, had to say, 2day:  Silver and Opium - SilverSeek.com. 

so, i feel kinda bad about calling the Chinese counterfeiters and implyng them to be aggressors, but i've been programmed by my culture, also, and the
nutty professor has helped me Be, Serve, and Grow, here, and i thank him for his wisdom.  Conan Doyle started one of Sherlock's "adventures" in a London Opium Den!  jeeez!  how styooopid of me!  when will i ever learn?

you decide what you think is best for you, and for us, and for them and for everybody's kids, if you would.  i'll be on my donkey, which for some reason, just refuses to die.

peace.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 19:10 | 968281 geminiRX
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Did you forget to refill your Lithium?

Thu, 02/17/2011 - 03:12 | 969104 slewie the pi-rat
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lol gemini.  thx 4 yer concern.  i hope things turn out well for everyone.  don't you?  yeah, i know it's too long & crappy, but it seems you might have at least glanced thru it and gleaned the parts which were meant for you = all of it.  yeh, i'm changing tactics after 3-4 weeks of fighting like a banshee.  i'm done w/ that.  trust me?  Hahaha!

but I'm NOT changing my strategy, just my tactics.  i'll probably spend the next 10 years of my life just backing down, eh?  also, see below, if you will, ok?

Thu, 02/17/2011 - 01:13 | 969267 slewie the pi-rat
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i'm pretty happy i didn't claim to speak 4 Bill Bonner, Agora, or the Daily Reckoning b/c i got his trade of the decade wrong.  i got the one he announced @ the beginning of the decade correct, but i did not realize he had changed it:  this is from 1/19 (without permission): "But what about Japanese stocks now? We thought you would ask. Since we announced our new ‘Trade of the Decade’ – sell US Treasury bonds/buy Japanese stocks – we have gotten nothing but grief on the subject. Everyone thinks he knows what will happen to Japanese equities over the next 10 years; and everyone thinks they will go down."  Read more: Will Japanese Stocks Survive a Meltdown? http://dailyreckoning.com/will-japanese-stocks-survive-a-meltdown/#ixzz1EBadhG3g

This is from 5/3/11, (w/o permission): "I had great luck with my last trade of the decade. Ten years ago I suggested selling US stocks and buying gold. It worked out very well on both sides. So people wanted to know what my trade would be for the next decade. I gave it some thought and came up with something. I think this one will work out too… but I’ll give you an even better Trade of the Decade."  and, later:  "So, that’s the new Trade of the Decade. Sell US Treasuries. Buy Japanese small caps." 

Then, he changed, again, in the same essay:  "So, how about this? Instead of selling US Treasury bonds, sell Japanese government bonds. Japanese bonds are probably even more over-valued than US bonds. And with the Japanese borrowing more than ever…while the Japanese savings rate declines…it seems a fair bet that Japanese government debt will go down at least as much as US debt. Maybe more.

By buying Japanese small caps while selling Japanese bonds you take out the currency risk. You have an even better Trade of the Decade. The Japanese small caps stocks are extraordinarily under-appreciated. The Japanese government debt, on the other hand, is extraordinarily over-appreciated.

But the first point I want to make is that this is just an idea. It’s not a substitute for a serious investment strategy."  Read more: An Even Better Trade of the Decade http://dailyreckoning.com/an-even-better-trade-of-the-decade/#ixzz1EBeQ8gQZ

And, even though he came down the stretch of the last decade saying how well "we" had done with trade:  sell US stocks, buy gold, i missed a day 'cause my dog ate my homework, and just missed what he was up to.  MY BAD. 

one of the bloggers who was paying attention (5/3/11) wrote:  "Let’s have a link to that original trade of the decade, I did not remember it as Japanese small caps, I thought it was Japanese Stocks, not specifically small.  And was there not a comment at that time that asked why not short the Japanese government bond…"  Read more: An Even Better Trade of the Decade http://dailyreckoning.com/an-even-better-trade-of-the-decade/#ixzz1EBfmhZr7

Here's what he said, today, 2/16/11 (w/o permission): 

"Stick with the program, dear reader…sell stocks on rallies (like this one)…but gold on dips.

That was our advice for the last decade. It’s still good advice.

Or, if you want to move into this decade’s advice, here’s the formula:

Sell Japanese government bonds on rallies, buy Japanese small cap stocks on dips. The bubble in Japanese government bonds will blow up too. When it does, Japanese investors will rush to low-priced equities. Count on it.

Okay, so it’s a little harder to do. But who said investing was going to be easy?"

And here's what one guy (not me. none of these blogs are mine) said: 

Mr. Bonner,

Regarding, “But who said investing was going to be easy?”

The Mogambu Guru says! In every column he writes for The Daily Reckoning!!!!

Minus 10 Junior Mogambu Ranger Points (JMRU) for you, sir!"

And he added, right below:  "Sorry, I meant “(JMRP)”

My acronym skills are lacking…"

Read more: Deferring Recession: A Short History of the "Age of Bubbles" http://dailyreckoning.com/deferring-recession-a-short-history-of-the-age-of-bubbles/#ixzz1EBmqQJUh

I repeat:  slewie has the highest respect for Mr. B, b/c i have learned tons  of incredible stuff from him.  And, after 7 hourZ of going thru Fourteen months of Archives: 1) I have no freaking idea what i am talking about.  Trust me. 2) I learned a heluva lot. 3) Do you have an extra lithium carbonate?
Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:34 | 966493 whatz that smell
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during the days of yore, they called it "climbing the wall of worry".

today, the subroutines call it "Buying the Flipping Dip".

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:35 | 966495 Quintus
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Jesus.  If the FinMin of any country is on the airwaves explaining how there is zero chance of default, you can bet that default is imminent.  Same pattern in Greece, Ireland, etc.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:43 | 966508 ivana
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fully agree

Thu, 02/17/2011 - 03:20 | 969417 slewie the pi-rat
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disagree. 

 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:43 | 966509 jus_lite_reading
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Of course, this is only damage control after the fact. Which begs the question: Would an FinMin of ANY country today, admit to their country's possible default if they knew it was imminent?

Did Borders tell their investors that a BK was imminent months ago, or did they hold out for the last few cents of profit for their execs?

 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:31 | 966649 Oh regional Indian
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Nice analogy Just lite.

Watching a co-ordinated take down with the appearence of a game of musical chairs being played by a bunch of schemeing old men in suits is an awesome con.

Like the rest of the game, rigged. Every bit of it.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/truth-about-america-truth-about-us/

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 13:49 | 967281 jus_lite_reading
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Question: Are Indians as dumbed down and naive as Americans? Because I don't think any nation is a brainwashed as Americans...

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:45 | 966513 SheepDog-One
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Geithner a couple weeks ago said default is 'unthinkable'...certain sign we're defaulting.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:54 | 966533 jus_lite_reading
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I thought he said, "the USA Titanic is unsinkable..."

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:25 | 966627 Sudden Debt
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Yes, a default is indeed unthinkable!

AND TO PROVE IT, HE'LL PUT ALL HIS MONEY INTO GOLD AND SHIP IT TO SWITZERLAND!!

 

 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:00 | 966767 Jim in MN
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Won't it be funny when a couple of million enraged 'lower class' people walk up the hill from France and ask for it all back?

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 21:25 | 968707 Blank Reg
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"You can never be certain that something will happen until the government denies it."  ~  Sir Humphrey Appleby.

Thu, 02/17/2011 - 03:57 | 969423 slewie the pi-rat
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if you think japan is ireland, greece, or borders, b/c they have a finance minister who must listen to reason, at this point, please put down the cruel-aid 4 a sec. 

rank japan against ireland, greece, and borders re:

  • 1) industrial and technological base.
  • 2) savings of the people in PM's
  • 3) will and homogeneity of the "nation-tribe".
  • 4) honor and dignity v. 'finacial hooliganism'.
  • 5) "GDP" trend per capita.

OK, continue draining those cups, now.  But thanks for at least considering these ideas, even if you don't agree w/them.

And remember:  people make fortunes fading my callZ!

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:39 | 966500 Cleanclog
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PIIGs have another influence happening.  Mass movement of some North Africans to PIIGs across the Mediterranean.  Could help with aging population, but most arriving illegally without many skills. Wonder if G-20 will mention later this week?  Probably not.  Just more currency posturing and "all is well" pronouncements by fin mins.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:02 | 966552 plongka10
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Was on BBC radio yesterday, focusing on Tunisians turning up in Italy. As you say,, little in the way of skills, just lookiing for any work they can find. The current (sic) bad weather in the Med is slowing the arrival rate, but I expect this phenomenom to continue. 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:39 | 966501 HedgeFundLIVE
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are your blogs ever NOT bearish?!  the market doesn't give a damn, and going long overnight has been working nicely for me:  http://www.hedgefundlive.com/blog/technically-and-figuratively-speaking

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:46 | 966515 jus_lite_reading
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There is no "market." The DOW can go to 30,000 and it won't matter. In fact, I hope it goes that high- then it's confirmed...

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:49 | 966519 Rogerwilco
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@Hedgie

Depends on where you like to gamble. I prefer Reno, the odds are better and there's good skiing nearby.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:41 | 966503 ivana
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think Yosano-san better shut-up ... when he needs to talk about this i public - means he's balls are really squezed.

Everybody knows that Japan is dead society for years now. Their corporations may be alive but they are abroad long time now and abroad is getting tougher day by day.

CB's only hope is that they all go down TOGETHER.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:44 | 966511 youngman
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But But But..Portugal just sold 1.6 billion in Treasuries.....now how did they do that?????

Who bought them....?  What a ponzi scheme this is...I am trying to figure out what the event will be that crashes everything....Egypt atacking Israel...China selling treasuries.....a Flash Crash.....Comex default....make a guess.....

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:48 | 966521 Quintus
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When the conditions are right, the trigger could be anything.  A disaffected nutter with a pistol started WWI.  More recently a dispute last month over a license to sell fruit from a roadside stall in Tunisia has spiraled into a regional revolt that has so far seen the overthrow of two governments.

The trigger will most likely be small and unexpected.  The grain of sand that topples the pile.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:06 | 966562 ivana
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know one country where major rumble started in the bar when one pissed guy asked the other: WTF are you looking at?
:-)

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:20 | 966605 MolotovCockhead
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Yeah, right! A single straw can break a camel's back...the last straw!

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:04 | 966781 Jim in MN
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Soccer War, El Salvador v. Honduras 1969 featuring propeller dogfights (Mustangs v. Corsairs) and a little bit of napalm.  A classic.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:48 | 966523 jus_lite_reading
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You forgot Japan's crisis. Any of the events you mention will send the markets higher no doubt.

The ECB is buying every bond in sight, that's why.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:04 | 966527 ivana
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1.6 bil? peanuts...
"anybody" can do this, trillions are flying everywhere, just press enter ... betting on chinese in this case. they will ,bite by bite, on EU distressed debt force ECB powerz to finally step in.
After all, its fight for final deflation game and control.
Funniest time in financial history is with us now with chinese stepping in EU debt markets.

Powerz are spinning spreads, news, rates etc in order to speed up sovereign debt slavery and than chinese step in and destroy their game in second ha ha ha

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:46 | 966514 Robslob
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QE3

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 13:03 | 967023 h3m1ngw4y
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why not start QE3 while QE2 is up and running. and while at the job why not start QE4 with QE3 should be less bureaucracy?

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:46 | 966516 4realmoney
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What is the market actually saying? Look at the run up in bullion prices. Enough said. Cool site that cost compares bullion dealers' pricing in real time. According to this, no shortages at the moment despite everyone complaining about silver shortages. Silver is going triple digits guaranteed.

A quick search of all the dealers shows plenty of inventory

http://goldshark.com/silver/search/results.html?t=100&ms=oz&mt=silver&pw=6

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:50 | 966526 Stuck on Zero
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With a huge debt overhang raising interest rates will force governments to print more money to pay the interest.  This will go into the pockets of the debt holders and thence into the economy driving up inflation.  Only higher taxes would solve this problem ... but, that would drop the economy and cause revenues to fall thereby causing more money to be printed.  Eeeech.  No way out.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:10 | 966569 spinone
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Once a debt based currency is debt saturated, game over.  Collapse and reset.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:39 | 966684 Snidley Whipsnae
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'[extra printing] will go into the pockets of the debt holders and thence the economy driving up inflation'

To a lesser degree than you might think. The debt holders are a small per cent of the population and most already have as many homes, autos, and yachts as they need.

I contend that most of the earnings the debt holders make will go into commodity speculation or rolled into more soverign debt that is paying higher interest rates.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:58 | 966543 Internet Tough Guy
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Euro debt crisis will trigger the arrival of freegold. UK and Japan have not much gold and no way out of their disaster.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 10:59 | 966544 X. Kurt OSis
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Off of Banca IMI's desk this morning:


"I said stay off the crack, and I still think that's pretty good advice, unless you can manage it socially. If you can manage it socially, then go for it, but not a lot of people can, you know?" --Charlie Sheen

Am I supposed to be excited that EU Finance Ministers have doubled the size of available aid to 500mm for the ESM facility in 2013? I'll pose it this way: If a bus mowed you down on your commute tomorrow, breaking your back and rupturing a few vital organs, would you be excited if I promised you a top surgeon in two years? Answers: (a) No. (b) I'd want to see photos of my caretaker nurse for 2011-12 before forming an opinion. (c) Please reconsider these Canadian-style health benefits. (d) I don't need a nurse, thanks, a helper monkey would be fine.

By the way, the answer is (a). It's (a), trust me. Because you've surfed too much of the web if you truly expect a nurse to sustain a multi-year fantasy, and I'm sure the Canadians have a fine medical arrangement, despite the occasional unfair jokes. By 2013, you wouldn't be angry, you'd be dead or catatonic. Talk about an egregious case of can kicking. It's a long unpaved highway to cover if the EMU loan sharks plan to continue their extortionist straightjacketing in the midst of a crisis while making all sorts of concessions toward the future. Remember when New York City deferred maintainance on their roads and bridges in the 1970's? As the apple rotted to the core, so did its infrastructure. Expanding the ESM is a deferred solution; the wagging finger in the eye of every non-core Eurozone investor.

Switching gears, today's Portuguese reverse auctions inspired confidence in exactly no one, as their debt agency scooped up around €200mm of the PGB 4/11 & 6/11 out of a projected 500mm; exerting the equivalent power of my mother struggling with arm curls each night. And given the 4mm+ still outstanding for each issue, this exercise hasn't alleviated the need for funding this Spring. The Portuguese are getting antsy. They've turned to syndicates for their coupon issues because their diapers aren't big enough to hold the mess. Their 10yr is resting comfortably above the all important 7% level. And their central bank can't fight the market trend, even with 750-1,000mm worth of artilery last week (or, according to a well known French bank, 15% of outstanding PGBs).

If the doctor's not on his way, let's cross our fingers and hope for the helper monkey. He rarely bites.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:37 | 966676 topcallingtroll
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A little cocaine is kinda good if you can manage it.  A few bumps at a party and then stop.  He is telling the truth.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:06 | 966564 BigInJapan
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Almost everything Yosano said above is bullshit.

He's basically kicking Japanese people in the teeth, daring them to find something with a better return than J-gov shitbonds. Well, they have - forex and mattresses.

The reckoning is fast approaching over here. I'll be taking pictures on my way out, yelling "I told you so" the whole time.

 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:08 | 966565 Instant Karma
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Maybe we should price the S&P 500 in cotton, or copper, or corn, as well as gold or silver.

Over time, the price of everything seems to go up, stocks, commodities, housing, it's just that the boom bust cycles are out of phase.

In the 1960s it was equities. In the 1970s it was real estate and commodities.

In the 1980s and 1990s there was a boom in equities and real estate. In the 2000s equities and real estate went bust, and commodities boomed.

In the 2010s I'd say real estate is due, but, the demographics have changed. We're at the wrong end of the baby boomers life cycle. Moving out of homes and into condos. Cashing out of stocks, and into bonds.

As a country, the last time the shit hit the fan economically was in the 1970s, and we were still the world's largest creditor. Now, we are drowning it debt.

All in all, I see no alternative to a mix of commodities and other hard assets. Stocks are fine, they may inflate with everthing else, especially if you pick a good stock.

Diversify.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:44 | 966700 trav7777
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the US's oil production peaked in 1970, so our economy came apart and the reserve USD was threatened.  This is why there was a stampede for metals then.

When the USD got its heartbeat back, people resumed the game.  It's really that simple.  Now here we are 40 years later and the condition has relapsed.

Global debts cannot be paid back.  Japan is a classic example of what happens to an economy once it's saturated.  They hit the supply-side debt wall in the late 1980s and nothing has been able to resurrect their upward mobility.  They still live well; it's not as if Japan is in a state of apocalypse, despite the blathering about them.  They surely will default because they haven't had any ability to grow for 20 years.

BUT, and this is wise to remember, Japan has been walled now for 20 years, yet their currency has not collapsed and their interest rates are still low.  The discounting process for them has obviously taken a lot longer than many might have expected.

JGBs are the only thing paying any yield whatsoever, consequently, they are well-bid enough to command 1.x% yields.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:08 | 966566 Mr Sceptical
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Shh.............. Everything is rosy in Europe, and the whole world for that matter of fact ;-)

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:14 | 966578 youngman
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Yes it is very quiet in the news...the Arabs are just haveing fun....forget about the Muslim brotherhood....and the EU countries are doing just fine..so is Britain..they have a good movie out...and the USA ..well just look at Obamas budget....double the revenue in just two years..must be those sun tanning salons.....I am going to open several....let alone the price of food...well..it just costs more to live....go figure

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:13 | 966576 william the bastard
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Among deficit reduction proposals:

A proposal from Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., to eliminate funding for the president's Teleprompter

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/15/house-prepares-chop-spending-remainder/

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:45 | 966709 trav7777
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No more backstage high-5s like after the Tucson speech?

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 13:25 | 967152 DosZap
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Best slap in the face he could have done.

This means all future speeches will be taped, and O will sit there and lipsync.

Or, he can try the human way, and contiue with the Um,oh's, Um,oh's,Er', Hmm.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:17 | 966597 falak pema
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Euro debt crisis depends a lot on how china plays the game of supporting euro investment in sovereign debt. Keep an eye on this...along with Japan's play  as well.

Thu, 02/17/2011 - 06:31 | 969509 slewie the pi-rat
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very nice, fp! you seem to have read the article AND understood it. 

the author talks about a EUROPEAN debt crisis, and to link the success of avoiding such to china is ok w/ me.

Japan's 10 yr(!) is UP @ 1+%, but the exact figure seems to be pretty hard to find, right now.  but, the US 10 yr IS @3.6%, so japan's screwed?  I DON'T like the fact that the Fin. Min.is hoping to raise the sales Tax, rather than CUT THE BUDGET, but this may well be coming to a country very near those of us who are Americans and i don't mean Can. or Mex.

"Indeed, the US is more dependent than other countries on foreign investors buying its debt. The UK, Italy and Japan are largely funded by domestic investors."  GET IT? 

Here's a Li'l Lulu: 

"Japanese government bonds have returned 9.8 percent in the past five years, according to indexes compiled by Bank of America Merrill Lynch. The Nikkei 225 Stock Average has declined more than 30 percent in the same period."  Really?  and of course this is why the yen has been the carry trade fave for much of this time, too?  i may have been born at night, but, this is some pretty severe misinfo-disinfo, IMO. getting passed thru from the crimesterZ, thru the "GoldCore" to US? via Tyler?

Slewie sez---do not get near "GoldCore" with a ten-foot, no, let's make that a 50-foot pole.

some of this info is accurate and useful, but the folks blogging here, with very few exceptions, don't seem to be able to handle it, T.D. It's like that crap about the suicide threat last week:  900 responses, yet VERY little understanding of the psychodynamics of....yep!  that one!

Does NO ONE ever consider that although the US$$ is the "international currency" the YEN has been USED as the international standard for a heluve good portion of the last decade, because it had the LOWEST INTERST RATES IN THE WORLD for much of that time? 

i mean, theory is fine, but what is REAL?  slewie thinks maybe the yen is the stronest paper on the planet.  but, i'm just an idiot, and proud to BE one, too! ok, maybe the Germans have a stronger "economy", but they aren't cooking on all 4 burners, like the Yen, IMO.

the TITLE of this piece is:  European Sovereign Debt Crisis Deepening - Risk of Contagion And Bond Market Crash

and, here are the factors in the development of this theme?:


Tyler, the person to whom i am responding and a few other people even attempted to look at part of this. and this is the most cogent person slewie could find on this page.  this person is correct.  in both sentences.  

here is the way "GoldCore" starts the thematic development: 

There is a real sense of the “calm before the storm” in markets globally

Really?  What Markets?  The ones that are ALL interventions?

What "storm"? 

Is there no concept, on this entire page that the CB's AND the "IMF" are criminal organizations which are playing around with SOVEREIGN NATIONS for the purpose of creating a "New World Order" based on enslavement, starvation, and "crony capitalism", which = FASCISM? 

OUR problems are not "just" ecomomic.  there are both political and LEGAL dimension here, also. 

Do we not NEED to design some kind of economis, political and legal strategy with which to counter attack the evil and rapacious forces which we are REALly up against for the future of every single child we know except the children of  the fascist criminal conspiracy we face? and all the children of the world who are not destined to be slavemasters and thus destined to be slaves?  People really think we can let these PSYCHOPATHS pretend they are doing us a favor?  Has anybody noticed the meeting these PSYCHOPATHS held while we were "celebrating "Super Sunday"?  Is there no understanding about what the "meeting in Paris" is REALly about?  People still think these PSYCHOPATHS are going to crash the "quantum gestalt envelope" on OUR heads and turn the entire planet into a concentration camp of debt and military rule, a prison of global fascism and this is going to be good because then we can get a "fresh start"?  People think they can just hop on a plane and go somewhere where they will not get cleaned out and cleaned up, too?  b/c they are "rich" and have 17 passports and gold in Canada and Switzerland, ergo they'll be fine? 

Riiiiight!

i'll go look around all the other fun things people are doing on the site, now, OK?  slewie's starting to roll, sports fans, slewie's staring TO ROLL!  i feel good right now, b/c after only 15 hours, i've got focus, i've got my reality, and i've got what i call THE JUICE.  and, guess what?  it's contagious, and very, very, very healthy, too.

so THERE!!!

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:18 | 966599 99er
Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:35 | 966666 topcallingtroll
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apparently you are the only other person who has noticed that.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:46 | 966713 earnyermoney
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against the wishes of the Administration and Fed Reserve.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:18 | 966601 falak pema
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Euro debt crisis depends a lot on how china plays the game of supporting euro investment in sovereign debt. Keep an eye on this...along with Japan's play  as well.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:33 | 966643 topcallingtroll
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China wants to support a multipolar world to help transition to the SDR (in the grand future bargain where it includes the yuan).  I suspect we will hear more about china bailouts of europe.  However china is mostly talk.  Their rhetoric about buying european bonds vastly exceeds their purchases so far, which are so little as to be meaningless.  China thinks they are a big boy and can jaw bone markets.  Sorry china....too eary....you aren't grown up yet.

by the way the SDR won't include the yuan until it is fully convertible.  China wants to have their cake, our cake, and eat it too.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:46 | 966718 trav7777
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and pollute everything they can come into contact with

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:13 | 966807 spartan117
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Yes, China's to blame for all the oil in the Gulf of Mexico, oil in Prince William Sound, and all the depleted uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan. 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:21 | 966611 99er
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Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:23 | 966620 gwar5
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Why make a bet on bonds when rates could go higher and the underlying country (us) is wobbly?

Gold Bitchez.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:32 | 966655 topcallingtroll
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It is interesting to hear europeans complain about bank leverage and ratios when many banks in their countries are in worse shape.  If the usa hadn't backstopped AIG then several European banks would be out of business now.  It is interesting to hear europeans complain about fed monetization when the ECB is doing the same thing.

However recently I haven't heard much about european superiority.  The last few months have changed things a little.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:52 | 966738 apberusdisvet
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Blythe needs to grow a new set; epic fail today; she'll try again on Friday; gotta luv those chinese who refuse to play the game.  Check out Kitco charts; straight line down, straight line up.

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:02 | 966771 zloty owadow
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Tim G. said "unthinkable," which doesn't mean the same thing as in English. Don't you have an economist's dictionary handy? Understanding what they're saying is difficult if you don't have this tool at your disposal.

un·think·a·ble 

 (n-thngk-bl)

adj.
1. More than a quadrillion: an unthinkable amount of money. 2. Able to be done only by central bankers: That this project would achieve ultimate success was unthinkable at the time. 3. Imminent; about to happen: Raising taxes was politically unthinkable.

 

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 12:05 | 966786 Jim in MN
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Addition to economist's dictionary:

QED: Quantitative Easing to Death

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 15:10 | 967612 irishlink
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The last few weeks has changed everything! the new banking stress tests here in Eorope will not be as easy to pull off as the first. The sheeple are wising up and are not as easily mollified. That is what happens when the lies start mounting up. Last week we learned that it is not just the Greeks and Irish have banking problems. My Gosh even Germany! What will the months ahead reveal? I leave it to your imagination. It's more reliable than the Government "facts"

Wed, 02/16/2011 - 16:02 | 967775 bronzie
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"...when interest rates were higher than inflation, that gold prices began to fall"

bingo - Volker had to raise interest rates to double digits before the bull market in the precious metals ended

it will be the same this time - as long as real interest rates are negative, the precious metals bull market continues ...

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