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Maybe the attention is on the wrong building...




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Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:44 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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1. click on the hyperlink for the blue building.

2. the red pills... er buildlings... well, they don't need an introduction.

 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:56 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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TD, j'adore.

 

 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Zevon
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S&P?

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:38 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Ruth
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Marla's a man???

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Bob
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I would say that she's the equal of any man, but that would be demeaning the fact that by nature she was born at least equal.  How do you like the new site, Ruth? 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Bob
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I hate running on and on in responses to myself, but I just have to complete my suggestions on site design.  I was the "anonymous" who kept pushing this in the remarks above (before I retrieved my new password to log in.)  I'd say the background color in all the blocks in colums one and three should be white.  It would be infinately cleaner in appearance.  I'd go with Arial and cut down the width of column three also. 

I'm sure there will always be additional tweeks that will further improve things (like getting rid of the black banner and sides), but I think those two things will make this site pop much more.  I hope they try it out and take a look at what I'm talking about. 

Interestingly, once I logged in the problem of my text disappearing into column three disappeared. 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:52 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Google Mapping the Southern tip of Manhattan if you are not familiar with NYC will give you a frame of reference for which buildings these are, but that's not really what the importance of this is.  It's who the main occupants are (well, 85 Broad speaks for itself).

 

Btw, creating an account here will fix the posting.

 

Time to take this drinking party public.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Here's one for the road (just a labeled map):

 

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=40.7031086&lon=-74.0106922&z=19&l=0&m=b&v=8&ifr=1

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Bob
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Drive safely!  Or, if you're living in taxiworld, leave some money for the ride and always keep your address in you pocket . . .  

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 02:26 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Agreed. A couple of more points Tyler :

1. Why do we need to fill captchas for registered and logged in users? It's a pain in the butt to comment. It doesn't seem right that both anonymous and registered users have to go thru the same process for commenting.

2. It would be really cool if you could use Ajax for comment posting, or at least editing, if not both - it's better than having the whole page reload everytime.

3. I still can't figure out what's the point of the three stories displayed at the top. It's just unnecessarily crowding out YOUR main content.

4. Right now, in order to view the highlighted items such as "Today's most popular", etc. I have to (weirdly and uncomfortably) scroll to (somewhere around) the bottom right of the page - perhaps we can have it somewhere we can more easily view it - such as top right or top left, (although I would suggest top left so you can have all the ads consolidated on the right side)? Which brings me to...

5. Instead of ads on BOTH left and right, can we just have 'em all on the right side. This way they are less intrusive and don't crowd out your content from both sides. I promise I will click on a lot of them if you do this (hope Google isn't reading this :-)

 

6. In the list of highlighted items (such as Today's most popular), perhaps we can also have a list of the latest, say 5, posts in order - would make jumping around the latest posts much easier than having to go back to the main site page everytime we want to view a list of the the latest stories.

 

7. It would be nice to have some kind of voting system for comments and (keeping track of) comment history for registered users (ala disqus). Just a thought.

 

One more thing about the "crowdedness" of the layout. The layout should probably look OK on a large (like 30') flatscreen monitor, but it looks way too crowded on a laptop screen - which I guess a lot of people are using to browse. Are you using a big screen for dev? I ask this because I make the same mistake sometimes when doing web development work on my large 30' monitor. Everything looks OK on the big screen but not so much on the lappy (and I'm talking a nice 1440 x 900 res) when I realize that I proportioned everything according to the bigger screen and it ends up looking crowded and bloated on the laptop. Just my 2 cents - hope that helps.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 11:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:42 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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u just mainline coffee in 24 hour cycles?

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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J P Morgan Property Exchange now part of NES, what about it?

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Lothar the Rott...
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?

Who laid the fiber?

Squeal, piggy.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:16 | Link to Comment deadhead
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i think you are the winner Lothar...

 

if proximity is the game i guess it is helpful to know exactly whom one needs to be near to.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 20:57 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Like i said yesterday, Jamie is playing this ftw.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/business/19dimon.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:00 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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And the blue building is 55 Water Street. S&P is there, plus a ton of other financial firms.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:00 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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Not 2, 1.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Have fun with 120 Broadway.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:36 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Ruth
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Looks like Two New York Plaza, may be hotels, can't tell

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:16 | Link to Comment Ruth
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Oppenheimer and Sullivan & Cromwell on Two New York Plaza

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:24 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Well, the other red building is One NY Plaza, where Goldman also has offices. BTW none of this playing with Google maps prove anything.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:21 | Link to Comment deadhead
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this line of thinking is very interesting TD.

 

 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:55 | Link to Comment DFTT
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Who would have thought that the DTC would have come such a long from their green screened settlements system?

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:25 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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I was thinking about this yesterday because there were two dudes on CNBC (one on fast money and another on one of the other shows) talking about where the S&P would have to go for the average person to go positive on their balance sheet.  I was thinking "there it is".  They were talking about S&P @ 1300 - 1350 (seriously).  This would give the average personal balance sheet (on debt to equity ratio) the ability to add debt.  In other words consume. 

My thought was "creating jobs might help".  But than i am simple and generally confused (all those green shoots went right to my head).

Further to my idea about Jamie doing some of the governments works vis-a-vie GS and pr, think about where jamie came from. He was thriving in Chicago with Bank One when Obama was coming up through the ranks.  GS may be a villian but the house of dimon created CDS.  Jamie has the hotline to Rahm and Obamas desk.  A democrat who knew BO when he was merely a community organizer in chicago. 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Maybe this coming week the devil will shift to become the house of Dimon. The only reason they picked on GS was their size, because in terms of  influence and street smarts there's not much difference between JP Morgan Chase and GS.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:57 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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No way.

Jamie is much better at being less obvious than GS. He has exposure to the "mainstreet".

Look @ their q2 trading.

Jamie takes the good with the bad.  Got Wamu for free (doing the fdic a favor) it will add $1b in profits this year.

Then go back and look @ what they stood to lose if BSC went the way of LEH.  They became the savior of BSC but in effect saved themselves because of what BSC going the way of LEH would have meant to them.

JPM does not have as much "help" in terms of placement of x executives in government.  But in terms of the big prize, if Jamie wanted to be treasury secretary, Geithner would be gone so fast it would make your head spin. 

If GS implodes in any way shape or form who wins (besides mainstreet)? Jamie is playing GS as if it were junior soprano.

 

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Right, a street map says it all. FAIL!

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:02 | Link to Comment DFTT
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BTW TD, the Riddler would have a had a field day with your readers.  It's disappointing that so many needed so much help putting together the puzzle.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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Something to bake your noodles tonight before you jump on Marla's DJ session:

If you think you own a security - think again. The DTCC is the Registered Owner - holder - of your stock or bond. The DTCC is the legal property-holder, share-holder, stock-holder, owner and purchaser. This means that your lawful Rights in that stock or bond (by default) are confined to that of a successor or heir of DTCC subsidiary Cede & Company

More to follow.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:53 | Link to Comment DFTT
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Same with CDS, the original CDS, Clearstream, Euroclear etc.

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Bob
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I've repeatedly wondered about that very question.  Fuck!  I look forward to more on this, Tyler.   

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 23:43 | Link to Comment ShankyS
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Either you are an Fing genius or your list of informants is long and wide enabling DEEP penetration. Your Fight Club alias TD might be better suited as Jason Bourne. We knew DTC was in but not this deep, Just look into Overstock.com for the root of evil in corruptive practices destroying companies using unadulterated leverage and lawlessness.

 

Double digit CAPTCHA - oh no.... 

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:37 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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No.  But you'll pay out out of the rectum to take physical delivery on every stock you buy - and that's just domestic.  Now, about when you want to sell...

 

Find a bond that is not book-entry only now.

 

Only the surface is being scratched on DTCC, but it's a deep itch.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Yep... So ur gonna walk the good folks through this one?  If, as your teaser allluds I surely hope to see the causal effects of the directed and redirected flow up to and especially the 6th level event on the impact of orders & PSYOP implications for sustainability of the confidence games within our "ownership society".

I agree that the timing and tease on this is excellent.... Baked noodles indeed!  WhoT!

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 22:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 07/18/2009 - 23:12 | Link to Comment hedgnome
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All I can really say here is

 

WTF

Sat, 07/18/2009 - 23:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 23:34 | Link to Comment nummy
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u may get some unwanted attention from some very special agents for posting a map like that ... just sayin

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 05:33 | Link to Comment zeropointfield (not verified)
Sat, 07/18/2009 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 07/19/2009 - 00:34 | Link to Comment joann
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"The March low is THE bottom"

 

Is that you Kudlow?  ROFLMAO

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 01:02 | Link to Comment Intuition
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 01:05 | Link to Comment joann
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Also read:  The DTCC’s CNS naked short selling residue

http://www.deepcapture.com/the-dtccs-cns-naked-short-selling-residue/

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 01:25 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Thanks..  Its nice to see where the residue is building up.  I have to wonder who is gonna get talked into smoking that stuff for a...headache.. er.. profit or is there another special resolution regeime coming to our friendly map occupants?

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 07:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 01:44 | Link to Comment My cognitive di...
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Misdirection.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 02:00 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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Just sat and watched some of the movie on TV, this is all getting pretty eerie....sir...

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 02:04 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 02:08 | Link to Comment Comrade de Chaos
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let's not take anything out of context. TD submitted an areal view, and by random coincidence or not (economic clustering theory could be a good clue) all of the good guys can communicate between each other by hand signals. Now, whatever that means is for us to decide on INDIVIDUAL level. TD is testing the waters. If you are clean, there is nothing to worry about. If you are really corrupt there no larger fear that someone, somewhere knows... Brilliant, TD you ether nailed the game theory, or the poker game or both. Now, is there a smog without a fire?

 

 

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 02:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 07/19/2009 - 07:36 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Correct me if I'm totally off the reservation on this one but does this not reek of the snarky musing of one "Dennis Kneale"?

 

Dennis...was that you?

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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Aside from your animosity for which i must thank you, as it is, of course, necessary for building some form of team spirit (read Derrida, Lacan and Zizek for the basis for this statement), I want to touch upon a tangent. Zero Hedge is a different media model. Totally different. We realize we do not know everything, far from it. However, we believe that with the crowdsourced effort of our millions of readers we have a damn good chance of at least getting to the democratic 50+1 threshold on a vast amount of topics (think of it as a dynamic wikipedia). And our readers do provide a substantial amount of the content. In addition to hedge fund managers (a lot of them), our readers include IT and telecom specialists, engineers, policy makers and otherwise sophisticated and looped in professionals. You would be amazed at the amount of content that is exchanged behind the scenes, and not only in a Wall Street context. Zero Hedge on occasion will connect the dots for much more focused and much more erudite professionals, and provide them with the forum at that point.

As to your original point, obviously how and why you read Zero Hedge is up to you. If instead of simply never logging on you decide to make a formal statement out of it, well, that is useful information as well and we all appreciate it.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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On the other end, we all have to keep in mind the Dunning-Kruger Effect in a setting such as this.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 02:45 | Link to Comment calgaryschmooze
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Brother, can you spare a few microseconds?

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 07:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 07/19/2009 - 04:20 | Link to Comment Intuition
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Half the fun and much of the beauty of ZH is that, rather than using a sledghammer to crack a nut (like the MSM loves to do in treating its readers like 3rd graders) at every turn, ZH often provides enough information for the reader to connect the dots for herself if she is so inclined without providing merely conclusory statements. Not only that, but it's much more entertaining to have at least a smidgen of foreplay instead of getting right down to it as if the readers were a $15 whore (another thing the MSM loves to do).

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 05:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 07/19/2009 - 09:32 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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you took the words out of my mouth. a free 0H hat for the first one to provide me the ECS fiber blueprints.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 09:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:23 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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ECS maintains records about its underground infrastructure and its tenants' use of the system. Tenants may obtain copies of certain ECS records, such as "table" maps and Duct Utilization System (DUS) cards, in order to plan routes through the system. To the extent available, ECS can also provide digital copies of any records maintained in that format. Most record requests can be handled on an ad hoc basis, free of charge. However, ECS shall bill tenants for the costs of retrieval, reproduction and shipping of large requests for records.

Some ECS records may contain competitively sensitive information. ECS has a strict policy against disclosing its own confidential or proprietary information or that of its tenants. To safeguard such information, ECS may restrict access to certain records. When responding to tenant record requests, ECS will redact certain records (i.e., DUS cards) to eliminate information relating to other tenants.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:31 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Dark fiber is fiber that hasn't been "lighted" so it's not in use. In terms of computations of actual transmission delays then you have to use maps of the actual fiber in use, though as I posted in another comment, that's likely a waste of time.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Jim_Rockford
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Tyler - the blueprints look the same as the GS Web from Muckety.  Where's my hat?

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Well, also lets remember that photons travel at the speed of light. That means that their transmission time is insignicant within any path taken through Manhattan relative to the network equipment and client/server processing delays which are much greater.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 12:58 | Link to Comment calgaryschmooze
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The group propagation velocity in optical fibre is about 0.65 to 0.7 of the speed of light.

The delay induced by switching through a modern carrier-class switch is also measured in the tens of microseconds.

 

 

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 09:03 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 07/19/2009 - 09:11 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Here is my crackpot theory for what it's worth.

You can't keep trading with each other forever and they know that. I don't think a bottom has been tested and they are not gona be able to continue to prop up the market for the next 5 years. They are going to set a bottom manually. Limit amount of shares to short except for your friends (gonna have to bring the Chinese along or they will get pissed). Give some hedgefunds a few companies that they can naked short to nothing so they don't get mad. Run a rally to get the dead money into the market. Pull the trigger, collect all the chips, go home.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:40 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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"Run a rally to get the dead money into the market. Pull the trigger, collect all the chips, go home."

 

SI, it's not crackpot.  Someone, somewhere knows how much money is "out" and who owns it.  If the markets are being manipulated up, and it certainly appears they are not trading on fundamentals, then absent money printing or outright counterfeit trades the manipulation cannot go on indefinitely. The "out" money must be drawn back "in."  One problem is that this "out" money may still be hiding in Treasury instruments; for this and other reasons I am looking for another round of QE.

 

It has always been my contention that the greatest financial crisis in the history of mankind must of course be met with the greatest coordinated response in history.  Given what's at stake, literal control of the world, no one should imagine that ANYTHING is impossible.  Given the well-documented history of lying, cheating, stealing and killing by governments and their allies to keep ahold of power, and given U.S. government's and the Fed's reticence at furnishing "transarency", in the absence of transparency anyone with any imagination at all can lose confidence.  Under current conditions, transparency is the opposite of confidence.

 

The indicator I watch, and I deem it reliable until it isn't, is the "Desperation Index."  The pumping that is going on right now is blatantly desperate.  Has anyone noticed how "Green Shoots" are turning into "The Recession is Over"?  Whether they want to pull the plug or not is debateable; I still believe that this government knows it would not survive an unchecked deflationary spiral.

 

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:51 | Link to Comment Jim_Rockford
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Here's mine (for what it's worth):

1.)  Goldman, JPM, State Street, the exchanges, etc. are only able to do what they are doing with the complicity of the government (which is conveniently made up to a large extent of ex-GS employees).

2.)  The most obvious way to keep the bubble inflated is to encourage the consumer to go out and spend.  The Obama administration is disqualified from doing so, since they ridiculed Bush for doing that very thing in the aftermath of 911.

3.)  Goldman, JPM, State Street, the exchanges, etc. have been tasked by the current administration with keeping the bubble inflated (at least partially) by any means necessary.  If they were to short the markets hard, Rahm has dead fishes all packaged up and ready to deliver.

4.)  I am painfully aware of GS as a powerfull force for something.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 10:57 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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So with all those theories, are you guys making money or losing money? Or are you staying out?

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 11:31 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Staying out.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Altan311
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Fighting Robots.

Sun, 07/19/2009 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 07/19/2009 - 12:08 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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Good point, but they may be in too deep this time. I think they also need to keep the marketing machine rolling in case we need a war (the old standby for centuries). I am looking for a line in Vegas with odds on an Iraninan war in the next 6 months. Big brother needs to keep the options open.

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Sun, 07/19/2009 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Milton
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So DTC is a clearinghouse for "everything" and knows everyone's positions at all times. Is someone implying that the information is being compromised?

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