• Gold Money
    05/03/2016 - 11:35
    Crude oil time-spreads have completely dislocated from inventories. Historically, such dislocations have proved to be short lived. We expect that either spot prices will sell-off again or the back...

Excelsia's Cliff Draughn Goes In Search Of Your Sleeping Point

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Wed, 07/14/2010 - 09:58 | 467968 vote_libertaria...
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So is there some reason why the peaks occured late June 2009, late December 2009, late June 2010?

Is this when leasing decisions need to be made so the suppliers jack up rates knowing when the buyers are caught in a crunch? 

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:12 | 468002 Cognitive Dissonance
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I've nurtured a similar long standing theory that oil prices move the same way, up just before long term contracts are signed/renewed, back down afterward. There can be a "conspiracy" among producers without a single word being exchanged between any of them. Since they all work in the same field, attend the same conferences, the executives and other personel move between the various companies, it's not surprising they would act in concert without overt collusion.

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:00 | 467971 vote_libertaria...
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(I was speaking about BDIY)

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:18 | 468009 mephisto
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Scary quote from Jeff Immelt at the end there.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ed654fac-8518-11df-adfa-00144feabdc0.html

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:32 | 468040 stickyfingers
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"Fair value on the S&P for me is 950, which would indicate another 7% decline in stock prices from here."

Markets always over shoot the mark, on the upside as well as the downside.

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:36 | 468043 Mercury
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Our focus is to preserve wealth by controlling our exposure to risk assets...

Great, bigger downside risk in this environment than upside.  No news to this choir. So what is your favorite store of value then? What asset isn't a risk asset these days?  $Cash is king I guess.

Another prominent plug for that Reinhart/Rogoff book I see.  Gonna have to check that out.  I like the sweeping historical analysis stuff.

Kind of funny - if you read this off the Excelsia site the B-berg screenshots are a bit bigger and you can see Dick Mayo (GMO founder) shooting him a message.

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 12:36 | 468377 jaiball
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Or, as one of my clients stated recently, “Cliff, I do not want to go back to eating spam.” We are here to make sure your investment process protects against the spam effect.

Dude, whats so wrong with spam?

Sat, 07/17/2010 - 06:09 | 475162 Kobe Beef
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Dude, Spam is made of people meat! They started doing it first in the former Yugoslavia, then Somalia, Iraq. hahaha Just Joking, Dude

 

Excellent Article! Thanks, ZH!

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