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Exclusive: Presenting The Flash Crashes Of 2010 - Part 1

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Tue, 11/09/2010 - 19:58 | 714250 HarryWanger
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Thank you for this. And thank you for getting back on track after three "missile launch" posts.

This is the stuff that make ZH a great site.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:29 | 714365 traderjoe
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Both sorts of articles make this a great site. Whether a missile launch (or your jet idea) is a relevant issue should be left to the reader, and not the editor, per se. One of my Top 10 favorite articles was on the Fahrenheit 451 book and the similarity to modern life. Was it financial? Not really. But it was informative. I like the mix of articles as it breaks up some of the monotony of some of the other financial sites. 

Speaking of which, I sold a couple of items on ebay, received the proceeds via PayPal and have donated a portion to ZH. I stopped my WSJ subscription a long time ago, and ZH provides much of that news to me. Just letting people know that ZH accepts PayPal...

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:33 | 714376 LoneStarHog
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Yes and, Tyler, please do not waste our valuable time with non-market events like a nuclear detonation, if/when one occurs.  Nothing outside of the markets affect the markets and, Tyler, you must understand this.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:58 | 714461 Bill Lumbergh
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Thank you for a little humor tonight.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 23:56 | 714870 thefatasswilly
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That's all people ever want nowadays. Humor, to cushion the effects of reality. Laugh it off, so it seems silly and ridiculous, and thus, less real.

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 04:20 | 715315 Herd Redirectio...
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There is a balance needed in everything.  While most people are ignorant to the extreme, and it would be disheartening to see them laugh everything off, but for the well-informed we have to keep our sanity.   Sane when everything around you is insane.  And if that isn't funny, what is?


Wed, 11/10/2010 - 08:27 | 715806 Cdad
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"Good comedy is tragedy narrowly averted."  W. Shakespeare

Keep the balance, TD.  And thank you for the work you do to keep the truth near to the surface...above the subterfuge of Iphones, stock price manipulations, and "Mystery Missles."

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 08:56 | 715829 Bill Lumbergh
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Save your energy and attack someone else brother.

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 11:14 | 716190 thefatasswilly
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Get the sand out of your vagina, Lumbergh. I didn't attack you; I didn't even begin to claim that I'm innocent of the condition.

Did you not notice my avatar?

I'm itching to insult you now, though.

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 15:06 | 717158 Bill Lumbergh
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Whatever man...could have fooled me.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:50 | 714432 Dapper Dan
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Bugger off Harry, there, some one had to say it.

You stirred up shit on the other post,  but I followed you here.

If you can not tell the difference between a modern jet aircraft contrail and a missile launch  than you are hopeless, hapless, brainless, brainwashed.

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 03:11 | 715099 doomandbloom
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what missile launch??! that was a friggin weather balloon.

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 05:40 | 715549 Hedge Jobs
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dear Mr. HarryWanker, i quite liked the missile launch posts as im sure plenty of others did as well. Its geopolitical, its unreported and unexplained therefore it is relevant to this site. personally i would like to be infomred when rogue and random missiles are being launched. Judging by the amount of "junks" you are regularly getting on this site im strugling to work out what relevance you have here?

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:00 | 714256 Rahm
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Rigged, female dogsss!!

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:05 | 714281 morph
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Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:06 | 714284 InconvenientCou...
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Let us know when you can propose a way to trigger them or cross them up. I'm in.

Otherwise there's not anything new. Carrying a sign with a tri-fold hat isn't working.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:04 | 714482 snowball777
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I hear the power grid in Kansas is as fragile as the rest of America's rotting infrastructure.

We leave the rest as an excercise for the reader.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:09 | 714296 MeTarzanUjane
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Beating the dead horse. It is now a widely accepted way to play the market brought to you by 4+1+1 from Reston.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:22 | 714338 sarnuk
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Outstanding, and outstanding job outing the conflict of interest as well.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:25 | 714350 Caviar Emptor
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Flash Crashes make men out of dweebs. If your a trader or an investor, you haven't really developed your skills and come of age until you've come through your first Flash Crash.

-A message brought to you by The SEC Department of Public Relations.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:03 | 714477 -1Delta
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So i was gone all day.. WTF with VXX? 

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:34 | 714563 threefingerscam
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Reverse split.

For a laugh http://latestbusiness-news.com/in-focus-financial-sectors-bulls-vxx-nct-... (repeated here):

iPath S&P 500 VIX Short Term Futures (NYSE: VXX) has gained record increase in its price in a single trading day. The VXX share has gained massive 300% in today’s trading session, one of the biggest increase in the history of VXX. The VXX stock current price is $45.26, up by $33.97 from its last closing price of $11.29. The stock is trading with lot of speculation and this could be judged by the fact that it has made its lowest price level of $11.01 in the month of November, 2010 and also made its 52 weeks high of $45.50 today, again in the same month of November, 2010.

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 02:43 | 715073 ebworthen
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That is scary, or funny, depending on your perspective.

The immediate image that comes to mind is someone betting every other number on the roulette wheel then scattering manure on the wheel itself.

What in the hell are we doing, really?

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 05:13 | 715468 Augustus
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There was a reverse split.  Don't get alarmed yet.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:29 | 714356 doomandbloom
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   from CNBC today                                                                                                                                      ....Since the Dow Jones industrial average fell about 700 points then largely recovered on May 6, setting the financial world on edge, similar flash crashes have occurred with alarming frequency in more than a dozen individual stocks.



Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:29 | 714361 lizzy36
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Tyler, how did ZH, and Nanex define "flash crash"? What parameters were used?

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:39 | 714399 Pool Shark
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"Tyler, how did ZH, and Nanex define "flash crash"? What parameters were used?"

1) Did stock value fall appreciably?

2) Was Waddel & Reed trading that day?

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:40 | 714403 Tyler Durden
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Progressive bid (or offer) hitting (lifting) events without a news catalyst, and a subsequent reversion to the NBBO pre-event once the trading stimulus is eliminated.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:01 | 714470 lizzy36
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Thank you.

You do good work.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 23:12 | 714791 agrotera
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Tyler, check out palladium two days ago--i think there was a flash crash on 2011 contracts but i forgot what time, i think it was the afternoon.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:35 | 714382 B9K9
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Two words: National. Security.

When you realize that the federal government has been directly involved with the fraudulent banking practices for the last 5, 10, 15, 20 years, you will begin to understand why the SEC is not an enforcement agency.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:38 | 714395 Caviar Emptor
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You got that right. The market was never "free" since 1987. "Market forces" are routinely trumped by political considerations and outright fraud. Mr market died. RIP. 

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:48 | 714424 B9K9
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As von Clausewitz stated, war is a continuation of state policy by other means.

The key to ferreting out the truth about our banking system is to understand that the dollar reserve system is an essential component of our military control of critical natural resources.

The financial services industry not only provides the missing 'profits' & tax base absent from our lack of industrial production, but also serves as a strategic weapon in its own right as a means of advancing our geo-political objectives.

That is why I shake my head in wonder at the absolute lack of understanding when all the gold bulls trumpet the imminent death of the dollar. Look fellas, the US budget will be cut by 75%, we will default on a portion of Ts, and interest rates will be allowed to find a natural market equilibrium, before the reserve status is ever even remotely in peril.

But if you think little Ben (what is he, 5'6" with a 4 inch dick?) is the MOTU and can single-handedly dictate US domestic AND foreign policy, why, be my guest.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:24 | 714534 traderjoe
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You lost me there a bit B9K9. I don't see how we can default on a portion of T's, cut the budget by 75%, and still maintain the reserve status. I'm not sure that the reserve status in of itself is the necessary part - it's the ability to pay for our overseas military expenditures (which could happen in another script) and the strength of the US consumer (and the attractiveness of the market) that make the biggest difference. The fact alone that more multi-nationals want access to the Chinese consumer market significantly diminishes the strategic importance of the US. 

I also don't think the price of gold is all that relevant to the strategic picture. Not enough people own gold for them to care whether it goes to $5,000 or even $50,000 an ounce. Of course, they could always outlaw its use in commerce if they cared all that much. 

But if we did a selective default and decimated our economy just to maintain reserve status, I don't think that would accomplish the objective. Our consumer-orientated market would be in such shambles (millions of Fed workers on unemployment) that companies would be fleeing to Asia in droves. 

I personally think 'they' have painted themselves into a corner. More printing just furthers our decline in the eyes of the world. Austerity will decrease the attractiveness of our market, and won't be all that successful in reducing our deficit (running at 70% of revenues). I would be willing to bet that a part of QE2 was that many CB's around the world said they didn't want to buy our T's anymore...

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 23:53 | 714865 jdrose1985
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Deflation, bitches.

I would like to know B9K9's stance on oil: namely the declining availability of oil at a price conducive to the continuation of business as usual.


Wed, 11/10/2010 - 00:15 | 714903 trav7777
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we can and will devalue while maintaining reserve status...I mean, shit, we have been for 40 years

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:44 | 714415 Fraud-Esq
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How can .gov sue anyone for fraudulent accounting practices when .gov adopted those practices in '08. This is after the prior fraudulent adoptions in '81 which were purged somewhat in the 90's. Obama is doing what Reagan did in the 80's, papering it over and shifting INCREASED risk to the next guy.   

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:40 | 714401 Fraud-Esq
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Good stuff.

The market is rigged by exchanges and their clients. The silence of .gov is alarming. The silence of the DOJ/SEC looks conspiratorial, actively or passively.  


Wed, 11/10/2010 - 07:28 | 715773 Cognitive Dissonance
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It is becoming increasingly obvious that the veil is being lifted from the government sanctioned fraud simply because it has grown to the point where it crowds out "normal" business. And it's called fraud only because we were and still are told the system works one way only to find it works the opposite. This is fraudulent inducement.

Please remember folks that one of the precedents set by the Bush admin (yes, we could go back much further and it doesn't matter which political party we're talking about here) was that if the President does "it" during a time of war, it ain't illegal. This is just one of the reasons for the constant state of war AND to the yearly declarations by the sitting President that there still exists a state of emergency.

Continuity of Government, essentially a form of martial law, was enacted on 09/11/2001 and as far as I can see, was never rescinded. This means we don't know exactly what is considered legal and acceptable if done under the cover of "national security". Thus we must assume everything is. This fact alone goes a long way to explaining the insanity we live within. Please see my latest article for the lengthy explanation.


Wed, 11/10/2010 - 12:15 | 716522 Marla And Me
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Here is the continuation of the state of emergency for 2009:


and here it is for 2010:


Just in case you need proof from the white house itself.  We have been, and continue to be, in a state of constant "national emergency" which alters the powers of the executive branch.  It's the legal way to be draconian...

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 20:52 | 714436 sax
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This is absolutely fantastic!


Nice work guys, excellent report.  Glad some people are taking the time to point out such an important issue...and this is coming from a guy in Australia who doesn't really need to care

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:16 | 714511 damage
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This would have been better if it was a video, with music in the background... like maybe the end of the 1812 overture...

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 15:42 | 715029 fuu
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I decided to avoid the audio copyright issues with an audioless version.

Of course I will take it down upon request.


Tubedub with the Overture. http://tubedubber.com/#v6bBV4H-1lA:k-vQKZFF-9s:0:100:0:0:true

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:43 | 714585 turds in the pu...
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bummer about the strict file permissions – these charts are begging for a montage

a muthafuckin montage.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:48 | 714603 Fidel Sarcastro
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Great stuff Tyler...I'll be spreading the word this very evening.

I haven't looked at every mini-flash crash event presented above but after looking at many it seems as if the richly priced stocks are suffering 1% insta-crashes, while lowlier stocks are pasted 5% in milliseconds.  Some, however, were 20% or more.  

It looks as if the algorithms themselves have been programmed to hammer these stocks to a specific percent of the share value.  Just a thought. 

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 21:49 | 714609 bigelkhorn
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Go watch this video, it is brilliant and explains things in about 1 minute.


God help us all!!

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 00:19 | 714911 jdrose1985
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I just wasted a minute of my life, please go back to Yahoo boards.

Thanks in advance

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 22:14 | 714688 DocLogo
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great job, TD.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 22:32 | 714721 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Brilliant work.  Simply astounding findings.  Thank you.

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 22:45 | 714750 Sun Tsu
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Identify a weak trend, then enter incremental limit buy orders@t -z% to -10z% in a binary "search" progression until the ALG triggers

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