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Exposing The Story Behind Goldman's Record Profits

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You know the official version of how god's bank, aka Goldman, makes money: in the traditional, and not at all mysterious god's way, as a pureplay investment bank, which allocates capital, provides financing, advisory services, etc. Despite what Mr. Blankfein would want you to believe, that's only half the story. This two part PBS Series analyzes the other side of the equation. Who should know the truth better than former Goldmanite, Nomi Prins. "Classical investment banking function is a small portion of their revenues, I think it is about 10% or so. So if he is doing god's work, he is only doing it 10% capacity. The rest is prop trading." But wait, according to Goldman prop trading accounts for only 10% of revenue. Why the discrepancy? Simple - because that 80% "vacuum" is really just the client-facing prop/flow fixed income hybrid model, which after the disappearance of all big fixed income trading houses (Bear, Lehman and soon, RBS) Goldman has now monopolized. Being able to determine how big or small the bid/offer spreads on anything from cash bonds, to CDS to various non-CDS OTC derivatives should be, courtesy of having the largest fixed income inventory in the world at any one time, to which it can add or from which it can sell, makes Goldman not so much a pure play prop trader, as a market monopoly, which has to be dismembered as it now is the market (just like the Fed is the market in MBS and Agency paper) when it comes to all non-Fed dominated Fixed Income and OTC derivative products. This is, and always has been, an FTC issue: remember Ma Bell?

That Goldman can piggy back on its unparalleled "market facing" perspective and allow its prop traders to legally trade ahead of major clients (thank you 4 point font disclosure footnotes) is just the cherry on top. Volcker is on the right path. But the true solution of the problem is to finally get Christine Varney's DOJ troops on the matter and to formally declare Goldman Sachs a monopoly power which threatens and prevents the emergence of true competition in the flow/prop trading arena. For an indication of Goldman's unparalleled monopolist capacity, look no further than its ever greater record trading profits.

Part One of PBS Series below (Part Two follows tomorrow).

 


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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 18:54 | Link to Comment trav7777
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They needed GS to make the market since March.  Otherwise, it was apocalypse time

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:00 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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Apocalypse delayed 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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Apocalypse created, then exploited

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:16 | Link to Comment Cursive
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Anyone remember that, according to his official government calendar, Hank Paulson met withe Goldman Board in MOSCOW in August 2008 and they discussed what would happen if LEHMAN were to fail?  They are rubbing it in our faces and laughing.  LAUGHING!  Well, me thinks they will be hiding rather than laughing in the not-to-distant future.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You know the end is near when "The News Hour" is reporting on the absolute corruption of the Majors.  At least they had some idiots on their to justify Sir Lord Blankcheck's sophisticated investing techniques.

"The scheme of things" is getting a little, well, how do i put this, schemey.  Proprietary trades are just one of many reasons why gold is  going sky high, btw.

Also, who are the people sitting behind the CEOs?  They all look the same?  And one of the suits looks like a hermaphrodite.  Usually this would be the punchline, except that I am serious...who the hell are the "men" sitting behind the bankers?  Once again, they all look the same. I first noticed them in a NYT article, where the "men" were also prominently featured in the main picture.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Eally Ucked
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Hermaphrodite? That was fucked up Angel after traffic accident. He clipped wings of another one on very high speed. Heavy traffic in "Gods Lair" 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:40 | Link to Comment chet
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When you can't identify a dude in a suit, 4-to-1 it's a lawyer.

Mon, 02/15/2010 - 10:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:03 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Anyone who does business with them deserves to get screwed. That they are a bunch of crooks is not exactly a secret.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:45 | Link to Comment msorense
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Crooks?  They are savvy businessmen according to Obozo.  Quite deserving of their bonuses after all.

Sun, 02/14/2010 - 16:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 You would have to be insane to do business with these people.Criminals, they are just thieves.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:39 | Link to Comment chet
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Tyler, you are at times an excellent writer, with exquisite turns of phrase.  At other times, you try to pass off this:

"Being able to determine how big or small the bid/offer spreads on anything from cash bonds, to CDS to various non-CDS OTC derivatives should be, courtesy of having the largest fixed income inventory in the world at any one time, to which it can add or from which it can sell, makes Goldman not so much a pure play prop trader, as a market monopoly, which has to be dismembered as it now is the market (just like the Fed is the market in MBS and Agency paper) when it comes to all non-Fed dominated Fixed Income and OTC derivative products."

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Prof Gulliver
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Can I get a free Zero Hedge T-Shirt if I diagram that sentence?

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:35 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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How bout a Dow 10,000 v3 hat?

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:43 | Link to Comment tom a taxpayer
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Chet and Prof Gulliver -  It is Friday night. I think TD might get a a little chuckle out of my attempt to diagram his monumental sentence.

Subject: Gerund "Being able to determine how big or small the bid/offer spreads on anything from cash bonds, to CDS to various non-CDS OTC derivatives should be,"

Subordinate clause: "courtesy of having the largest fixed income inventory in the world at any one time,"

Subordinate clause: "to which it can add or from which it can sell," 

Verb:    "makes"

Direct Object: "Goldman not so much a pure play prop trader, as a market monopoly,"

Subordinate clause: "which has to be dismembered" 

Subordinate clause: "as it now is the market"

Non-restrictive appositive: "(just like the Fed is the market in MBS and Agency paper)"

Subordinate clause:  "when it comes to all non-Fed dominated Fixed Income and OTC derivative products."

TD is my favorite fountain of fast paced, invaluable, cutting-edge information. 

TD, I love your sentences, from simple declarative to compound-complex. Keep 'em coming.

 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 01:24 | Link to Comment David449420
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Nicely done. I'll bet you've had as much CR as I have. Or the equivalent of.

CR = Crown Royal

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 01:50 | Link to Comment tom a taxpayer
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Yes, I had rocket fuel: spumante with a shot of sambuca.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 01:51 | Link to Comment Bill DeBurgh
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Mmmm... Makers Mark...

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:27 | Link to Comment David449420
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So, he was a bit verbose. I give the man great credit for being so high minded. He focused on a serious problem in the monetary world & suggested the logical & necessary fix.

My immediate response, some months back, when I initially realized what a company like Goldman Sax and the criminals who run it had done, (and the other equally criminal companies like his) was far less analytical and far more emotional. 

Punish the bastards that caused this and then fix the problems that they caused.

Unfortunately, I think we are too late.

I don't think what has been done can be fixed. It's too late.

What really irritates me is that all the criminals who run those companies have seen this too, that they know that they have lost control and cannot stop what is coming, and they are now stealing everything they can right up to the last moment that they can.

Everyone of them have already got a plan in place that will enable them (they think) to escape to wherever they think is a secure place when the crash occurs.

That PBS is starting to air things like this is good. They did not present the full picture of the criminal activities of GS, though. Its far too little, far too late. 

If we had a few years, it might be possible to achieve what TD is suggesting and what I would emotionally want.

We don't have a few years.

If you tell me you think you Know where this is going to end up, well my response to you is that you are guessing.

New Monetary system,  War,  Fascism & Tyranny,  Anarchy,  take your pick. 

Good luck to us all.

And there's another pipe dream.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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"Unfortunately, I think we are too late."

Sympathize and then implant the suggestion that it's gone to far. We have to give up.

Fuck you. Fuck you hard.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:23 | Link to Comment David449420
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I think you took my comment way too much to heart.

There was no suggestion of giving up.

If my comment offends you, then just move on to the next one & ignore me. I have a tendency when I communicate to be a bit of an asshole & express myself rather forcefully.  I think a lot of us are guilty of such behavior at some time or another. 

If it is just that you don't want what I am saying to be factual, well Sorry, but that's YOUR problem. If I'm wrong (I would really, really like to be wrong) then it should be easy for you to dismiss it, & move on.

I find a lot of people who I communicate with are not willing to accept what I say or suggest, so usually I keep it to myself.

I found this forum overall to be rich in ideas and reasonably open minded to alternative opinions (even IF they are wrong). 

So, that's why you had my opinion, which you so venomously objected to.

I guess you would have to call this the follow up to the pipe dream.

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:55 | Link to Comment David449420
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You guys are going to have to try harder than that.

Let me make a suggestion to you. 

Why don't you actually try to descredit me with facts and logic ?

That's OK. Take a while to think about it.

 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 06:08 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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"You guys are going to have to try harder than that."

Na. It's too late. Maybe if we had started a couple years ago we could have fixed your stupid ass but I guess we just have to accept it now. We clearly see that you won't stop pretending you understand and then declaring it hopeless.

What kind of lame ass sympathetic magician are you?

Just turn one of your phrases inside out and you go from a total dick to a total asshole.

 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 14:03 | Link to Comment ETF-Trader
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chet,

Since you are more concerned with TD's grammar, rather than the contents he delivers (that keeps us all on the edge of our seats wanting more), I have written something especially for you:

FUCK OFF!

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:41 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Goldman along with a few other institutions are simply a product of the political, legal & financial systems that are in place.  The kicker is that if the FTC does not intervene, forcefully, then the beast that the aforementioned institutions are will consume themselves and if they can, the rest of us along with them. 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:00 | Link to Comment Euro Dude
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A bit over-the-top. GS is anything but a monopoly - it's certainly the dominant player but it's clearly not a monopoly: there are plenty of other people to trade with for example. Also, monopolies are not intrinsically illegal - only if the dominant player exhibits abusive behavior which is at least debatable.

The stuff about GS legally trading ahead of their clients seems pretty dubious too - based, as far as I can tell, on reading a couple of disclaimers on a GS Web site.

If GS really were thieves people wouldn't do business with them and they really aren't the only game in town and they presumably wouldn't win awards for giving institutional clients the best pricing: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aFtRXG2YEX30

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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Hahahahahahaha.

Thanks for the Friday laugh.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Rainman
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Keep reading that Squid website, Dude. And Good Luck !

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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I want some of what Euro Dude is smoking.....  Remembering that chasing the dragon has never been a good pastime sounds like a far better idea.  I should know.

- Layne

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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LOL...remember smoking causes garment burns...x

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:04 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Smoking jacket or house coat, the same results.  Good to see you.  Now, back to those green shoots Ben wants everyone to smoke... Peace pal.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Sqworl
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You remembered...sweet...xx

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 21:49 | Link to Comment imsaul0968
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I totally agree. Im actually amazed by all the conspiracy theorists out there. Bottom line, GS people(and I know many) are smart, savy, strategic and very forward thinking. I only wish I had the info they have when dealing with client orders. Theyre job is to deliver products their clients want, then they reduce the risk they have as a firm to those positions and hopefully, leverage this knowledge into investments that will benefit the firms shareholders, employeee's, and clients.  All this anti-GS talk just wreaks of jealousy from people that don't have enough money to be a GS client. There I said it!

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 21:50 | Link to Comment imsaul0968
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I totally agree. Im actually amazed by all the conspiracy theorists out there. Bottom line, GS people(and I know many) are smart, savy, strategic and very forward thinking. I only wish I had the info they have when dealing with client orders. Theyre job is to deliver products their clients want, then they reduce the risk they have as a firm to those positions and hopefully, leverage this knowledge into investments that will benefit the firms shareholders, employeee's, and clients.  All this anti-GS talk just wreaks of jealousy from people that don't have enough money to be a GS client. There I said it!

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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Have you been a GS customer?  I have, and I've been ripped off by them and forced to move my business elsewhere (we knew from the beginning it would happen and we planned for it).  That in itself is fine, however, it wasn't innovation, forward thinking, strategy or any other bullshit beyond plain fucking thievery.  We never let them into the office during trading hours and we never let them bring in "support techs" to see how they could help us further with executions or any other excuse they made to visit us because we knew they just wanted to see how we were doing things and how they could copy it.

As soon as we refused their insulting buyout offer, our relationship with them was doomed.  They started front running us or just slowing us down enough to make sure we lost just that much of an edge.  When we complained they just said so what, go somewhere else if you don't like it.

Their disclaimer should read "we work for you as long as it benefits us more than you, we will make every effort to ensure our success at your expense.  If you are kicking ass we will do everything we can to reverse engineer your trades until we can replicate your system, then copy it, and run it in front of you.  Oh yeah, there's not a fucking thing you can do about it."

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:39 | Link to Comment Dr Hackenbush
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(( GS people(and I know many) are smart, savy, strategic and very forward thinking))

Pardon the squidious-interruptus, but I believe this hosts of geniuses you speak of are bringing down the planet

- just a little side note. 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 04:30 | Link to Comment chindit13
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You give them much more credit than they deserve.  I went to business school with a lot of folks who ended up at GS (I went to a competitor).  They were not the brightest lights in the room, though they were by no means stupid.  In my early days on WS they were not anywhere near as ruthless and mercenary as today.  They used to be kind of dull and nondescript, though they did make some good money.  They lacked the "character" status of, for example, the old Solly.

Somewhere along the line they changed.  Perhaps it was Blankfein who did it.  They started front running and abusing customers, and had this arrogant view of "we're so much better than our customers that they don't even know we're fucking them nine ways from Sunday".  Slowly the market is understanding what they are all about now, and other firms (MS, JPM) are benefitting from customer defections.

What GS had working for it---and it may now have changed---is a kind of critical mass.  Being the biggest and best connected had advantages so long as there was some degree of self control within the firm that limited the amount of abuse they inflict on their customers.  This has changed, and with it the future path of GS.  There's a reason why it's stock price has been faltering.  Arrogance eventually destroys.  A little more public awareness and GS will lose the only real advantage it has left, which is its control of a good portion of the government.  They think they're the "best", but put them up against someone with real talent (Tudor, Kovner, Drunkenmiller, Bacon) in a fair contest, and GS is just a bunch of weenies sucking on the taxpayer teat.

Sun, 02/14/2010 - 04:02 | Link to Comment Stevm30
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"...and GS is just a bunch of weenies sucking on the taxpayer teat."

Shakespeare couldn't have said it better!

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Wow well said. You should go into public relations.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:51 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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I figure there's some sort of rotating assignment sheet at GS, if you guess wrong, you get the job of monitoring any Goldman stuff at Zh and have to cheerlead.  It must be a pain in the ass, not sure why they bother.  It's not like anyone believes what they write.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:46 | Link to Comment David449420
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I like that. Just as your comment came up, I was writing down those two handles.  And had essentially the same thought.

 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 06:11 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ya if you're going to try to control a group.You need to have good notes davey. But it's good you noticed that we noticed.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 01:36 | Link to Comment David449420
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Most people initially will take this as a facetious question. 

Are there any companies on Wall Street who are not run by criminals?

I'm not trying to be funny at this moment. Is there any?

My suspicion is that there are none, but someone more in the know might suggest different.  humm... How could you show  / actually prove that X company was legit, compared to Y company.

And therein, I think,  lies the crux of the problem. Once confidence is lost in the monetary system, how do you regain it?

 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:16 | Link to Comment TopHat (not verified)
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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 21:16 | Link to Comment uninstaller
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David Stockman??  He rode Collins and Aikman into chapter 11 and barely escaped jail.  Why is he giving interviews on Goldman?

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 21:26 | Link to Comment bad.bank (not verified)
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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:04 | Link to Comment David449420
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NO. I call it criminal.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:11 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:11 | Link to Comment mcarthur
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Goldman strikes me as a good short since there are similarities with Enron.  In other words once everyone figures out your game you can't sustain it.  You are only as good as the bets you made last quarter.  This is not a sustainable business plan.  If your profits depend upon finding a pack of fools to take the other side of your trades eventually you run out of fools.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 01:28 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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You are probably right about that.  Now if you knew when, you could make a fortune.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 04:26 | Link to Comment mcarthur
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Ya.  Everyone ran around saying don't fuck with Enron, they are really smart.  Substitute Goldman for Enron and presto.

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:38 | Link to Comment donatoloscalzo
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Tyler, you are a true gift from God.  I find myself reading only your website everyday all day: it is the only relevant financial website which always, always delivers incredible news, professionally written and presented.  Thank you!!!!

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:22 | Link to Comment David449420
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Wonderfull !

I haven't a clue what you just said but it was incredibly poetic.  

I enjoyed this better than anything else tonight.  Come back Guy, that was great.

 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 02:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Everything I posted tonight seemed to post twice. I have no idea why. This is overwriting a second copy of my previous post.  Enjoy your weekend, people.

 

 

Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:07 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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mmmmm Nomi....Nom nom nomnomnom...

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 01:50 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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That car guy/crush Dennis Kneale flameout was....EPIC!

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 04:34 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Macke's now a debt collector for a New Jersey-based cement company.  The firm supplied that black leather uniform.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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Do they supply him with crack? Or does he have a dealer on speed dial?

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 02:36 | Link to Comment Rick64
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Boy Macke sure wants a job at GS, they should have asked Dylan Ratigan I bet he would have plenty to say.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 11:56 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Go ahead and point out all of the "lies", then refute them.  That's the beauty of this site;  it demands input from those who know better.  If you really do know better, prove it.

You can start with this:  TARP money, overnight BHC approval that granted GS access to unlimited Fed borrowings using collateral of unknown value (and paved the way for the Buffett deal), FDIC debt guarantees on $28 billion of debt, $12.9 billion on AIG 100c/$ CDS payouts, TBTF status that lowers funding costs relative to anyone not TBTF, taking the other side---after a heads-up---on a large portion of the $1.25 trillion of MBS' Bernanke has stuck to the taxpayer.  Then you can opine on whether there is not at least the appearance of impropriety---for lack of a better word---in being Obama's top contributor and one of the top three lobbyists in DC (in terms of money spent).

No doubt it's all just a simple misunderstanding which you can clear up for us all.

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We had walked for 1000 days, feet bleeding from the pavement, concrete pieces strewn in all directions, bitter reminders of our torrid past. We trusted not one, as our group walked determined in the madness. Hoping, thirsting, searching, for the safe haven that never seemed to come. My children three, were gone. Dead to  my existence, left by the wayside in shallow grave, to hide them from the eating ones. The flesh eater, bent and twisted from the bitter electron charged air. My brother, me, and two friends. One wife, pregnant with an angel soon coming into hell. We never doubted it would die in the womb, for death in the belly would be so much better than life. 3 nine millimeter berettas, two empty of shell, a mere facade. One 12 gauge Benelli, a vintage M-1, and an AR-15. These were our earthly tickets to the waiting place. The new tommorrow. The promise that never came. Yet, still we walked, determined to find meaning in the meaningless. Then I saw the blood. Running like a torrent through the gutters after a strong spring rain. We were welcomed at the gate by a man like ourselves. Light in the darkness, just in the injustice. In the fires of hell, comfort from the demonceit. There were many as we, and none bore the mark. There was a great throne, and upon it sat one with balanced scale, with a sword swung in justice, going out into the darkness as it was wielded to the right and then to the left. In the new city, there was no night, and only day. As I sat, I rested with the children I had lost, now born new. My garments were clean, born of the blood that had pierced the ground. I found peace, knowing justice had been served. My days were 10,000. Then, I was taken back to God.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 02/13/2010 - 15:28 | Link to Comment rubearish10
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Still waiting for the Bond Vigilantes to save the day.

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 15:37 | Link to Comment David449420
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I would suggest that almost all people on this site already are aware or they wouldn't be here. Other than the shills for GS that is.  And guess what? Those apologists for GS, etc. are eventually going to see the nature of the beast too. Or at least most of them will, if they spend more that a little bit of their time here.

I've noticed that most of the obvious shills don't argue the facts, they just attack the person. 

I think it would be interesting to find out how many people here ARE from the major financial companies and have woke up to the truth. 

 

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 17:29 | Link to Comment reload
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I have absolutely no doubt that GS is as rotten and despicable as its fiercest critics would have us believe. I have never met a properly senior GS employee, but the juniors I have met from the equity options side have all been spectacularly ordinary - in every respect, save their slavish devotion to their employer. They used to be  reffered to as the `jesuits of finance` as bit of a joke, but I would not be suprised if the selection criteria were designed to select footsoldiers who will respond well to a bit of corporate culture brainwashing. Anyway they are different animals from their counterparts at Deutche, JPM, SocGen etc etc where there remain some Characters who would have fitted in well at Salomon Brothers back in the day.        

Sat, 02/13/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 02/14/2010 - 00:20 | Link to Comment Instant Karma
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Goldman Sachs is "the house." They make the markets, profit from the spreads, and front run the trades. That's how market making works. But to make money selling billions upon billions of dollars in crap products, then, make money when those crap products turn to shit, that's fraud on a massive scale. I can only suppose they're still in business because they appear to be intertwined with the government.

Don't forget another big source of profit--they create bubbles and burst them, like oil. I'm sure they made billions on the way up and billions on the way down. Heck, they don't even need bubbles, with their fancy trading programs they scalp millions out of the markets every trading day.

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