Eyjafjallajokull Ash Diffusion Indicates Why Europe Is Panicking, 84% Of European Flights Cancelled

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Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:33 | 306668 Missing_Link
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The Black Swan has arrived in terminal B, gate #4.  Repeat: The Black Swan has arrived in terminal B, gate #4.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 16:15 | 306916 THE DORK OF CORK
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Finnish air force F-18 engine damaged due to volcanic dust


Sun, 04/18/2010 - 16:48 | 306957 carbonmutant
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EU without Air Defense ??

Is this an exploitable scenario?

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 19:39 | 307122 faustian bargain
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they had air defense?

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 08:14 | 307525 Adam Neira
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Sao Tome and Principe will take advantage of the confusion and invade...

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:35 | 306672 Fish Gone Bad
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Somehow, this seems fitting that Iceland would f*ck over Europe.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:42 | 306681 doggis
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cheers to that fish,

you sell us toxic assets - we send it right back the icelandic way!

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:50 | 306694 Cistercian
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 The people in Iceland get the justice they have been longing for...just not in the exact form expected.

 Black Swan?Absolutely.Wait till Katla goes off, then the FAIL will be truly epic.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 15:47 | 306883 ZerOhead
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A Katla eruption would indeed be a game changer!

The current eruption has spewed far less than .1 cubic km of ash into the upper troposhere/lower stratosphere. You will require at least a couple of kms^3 to get a measurable global temperature decline.

For comparison Mt. St. Helens was around 1 km^3 and Pinatubo was on the order of around 6 km^3. Tambora in 1816 ("The year without summer") was 100 km^3 and the last time Yellowstone supervolcano went off? 600 km^3 !!!

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 17:32 | 307003 nabi
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A Katla eruption would pretty much stick a fork in Europe (at least financially)...

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 02:50 | 307457 faustian bargain
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From the article http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7070239.ece

"Eyjafjallajokull has blown three times in the past thousand years," Dr McGarvie told The Times, "in 920AD, in 1612 and between 1821 and 1823. Each time it set off Katla." The likelihood of Katla blowing could become clear "in a few weeks or a few months", he said.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:31 | 306785 Nicodemus
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Posts like these make ZH as entertaining as it is informative.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 16:23 | 306928 umop episdn
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The final request of Iceland's bankster-killed economy was to have its ashes scattered over Europe.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 22:07 | 307243 dogbreath
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Sun, 04/18/2010 - 23:56 | 307353 colorfulbliss
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+(at least)1000000

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 01:42 | 307423 A Nanny Moose
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Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:48 | 306690 e1618978
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Not only that - but Iceland is uneffected for the most part.  Some of my co-workers are stuck in Sweden, I am thinking that they should maybe take the train to Spain and fly from there...

Also, it looks like some of the ash is heading for the eastern seaboard of Canada and the US.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:55 | 306705 malek
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In case anybody hasn't read the full version of the joke:

A Joke Making the Rounds in Iceland Today

Britain: Iceland are you crazy?!? Why did you send us volcanic ash? Our airspace has shut down.
Iceland: What ? That's what you asked for isn't it?
Britain: NO! We said cash! Cash you dyslexic idiot. CASH!
Iceland: Woooops...
To the British and Dutch Governments: There is no C in the Icelandic alphabet, so when you ask for Cash, all you get is ..

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 15:17 | 306854 Hephasteus
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Volcanos. They are like natures sand in your economic engines vagina.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 23:58 | 307358 colorfulbliss
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omg....too many +100000's tonight!!!!

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 08:16 | 307547 Adam Neira
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Wicked sense of humour those fisherman. Best Icelandic film, out of about ten I've seen, is Reykjavik-Rotterdam (2008). Really depicts the culture well. (Love world cinema.) I also have a great old 70's album produced in Hafnarfjörður called "Great Trucking Songs of the Revolution" that I have been trying to sell on E-Bay.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:57 | 306708 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Meh. KLM is already flying planes to demonstrate this is a bit of a nothingburger. Eventually the industry will push the matter and putting their planes in the air.


Of course, now there are rumors saying no planes in the air prior to the 22nd.


and of course this could be the opening act for the Kalta et al

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 13:16 | 306722 Greyzone
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I saw photographs of one jet engine, disassembled, after it had flown through this crap. The damage was extensive, and expensive. The smoke and vapors are not much of an issue, but the areas of actual ash are dangerous to jet turbines, extremely dangerous.


Expert Dr David Rothery, from the Department of Earth & Environmental Sciences at the Open University, said: "This is not a dense cloud, and is unlikely to be noticed by people on the ground, though we may have a spectacularly red sunset this evening.


"However, air traffic restrictions have very properly been applied, resulting in closure of airports and airspace. This is because if volcanic ash particles are ingested into a jet engine, they accumulate and clog the engines with molten glass.


"In 1982 British Airways and Singapore Airways jumbo jets lost all their engines when they flew into an ash cloud over Indonesia, and a KLM flight had a similar experience in 1989 over Alaska. On each occasion, the plane fell to within a few thousand feet of the ground before it was possible to restart the engines."


People versed in this issue plus the actual history from prior experiences with this issue suggest that your statement is incorrect.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 13:35 | 306739 seventree
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The ash clouds in their present diffuse state are invisible to pilots, and also to any navigational or weather radar carried by modern airliners. It is possible that most flight paths through them will cause no damage. It is also very possible that some flights will suffer significant engine wear. The only safe way to resume traffic is for every engine of every plane to undergo close inspection upon landing. In this case, expect to see a surcharge on your tickets for some time to come.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 16:46 | 306888 Martel
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KLM is already flying planes to demonstrate this is a bit of a nothingburger

On thursday, before the restrictions, five Finnish F-18s were practicing dogfight in the Northern Finland airspace. After landing, powdered ash was found from the jet engines of three Hornets. According to the Finnish Air Force, the ash melted inside the engines' combustion chambers, causing extensive damage. A few pics here: http://www.ilmavoimat.fi/index.php?id=1149

As far as I understand, many countries base their restrictions on British computer model about the movement of the ash cloud, not actual measurements. In that sense, some restrictions may indeed be unnecessary. But if you fly into an ash cloud, you may damage the engine. Some more ballsy people, like the Russian president, choose to fly anyway.

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 08:17 | 307560 Adam Neira
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Those planes are finished !

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 17:49 | 307026 duo
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One short flight through a nearly invisible cloud of this stuff and you have an aircraft out of comission for a month and millions in repair costs.


Sounds like an expensive gamble.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 13:30 | 306735 Mitchman
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Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:14 | 306760 BlackBeard
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+1 lol karma bitches!

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:53 | 306815 Dirtt
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God Bless them. Iceland. We are with you. Erupt away.

The only way this could get anymore poetic is if GS long oil blows up in their faces. And the demand for shipping capacity to offset air freight pushes crude off the ocean and into land based infrastructure.

Yeah yeah yeah. Wishful thinking. They probably found away to short volcanic eruptions too.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:54 | 306702 Great Depressio...
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If this lasts for another 2 weeks the damage will be substantial to the EU airliners.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:55 | 306706 lawton
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Scientists are saying this thing could stay real active for over a year possibly and if that is the case Europe will have some major acid rain issues and if it does trigger the other volcano the whole world will be affected quite a bit.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:15 | 306763 zeroman
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Sources? or just 3 miller lites?

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:58 | 306821 Dirtt
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Has anyone found a phonetic spelling yet?

Pretty amazing Crab Cake to say the least.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 21:34 | 307217 Shortbus Bully
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For the record jökull is an especially difficult word for non Icelanders to pronounce correctly, there are no reasonable English phonetic equivalents to the 'ö' or 'll' sounds.

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 07:45 | 307516 Adam Neira
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Björk Gudmundsdottir (The country wins the Gold Medal for tricky names) was interviewed on BBC just yesterday whilst on her latest Norwegian regional tour. The reporter wanted to know how to pronounce the volcano's name correctly. The elfin-like singer then swallowed a bag of peanuts, jumped in a fjord and sang a line from an ancient Icelandic folk song whilst wearing a wetsuit hood. The sound that the underwater microphone picked up was the closest version yet to the original utterance by a group of drunken shepherds on a month long trip from Reykjavik in the winter of 1642. Pronunciation Degree of Difficulty 9.9. A small caption appeared at the bottom of the screen..."Please do not try this at home !" 

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 15:52 | 306892 arnoldsimage
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well... this world isn't big on repentance after all.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 12:57 | 306707 doublethink
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It's not just about grounded flights; it's also about food and energy.


Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:17 | 306754 berlinjames02
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Seriously!! Has anyone every heard of 1815, "the year without a summer"?


In short, Mount Tambora, a volcano in Indonesia, exploded and put a whole bunch of ash into the atmosphere. The ash prevented light from the sun to hit the Earth, and as a result a 'volcanic winter' occurred. Crops failed, there was starvation, riots and social unrest followed too. (Not sure if Waterloo was affected?)

One positive benefit: the bicycle (or velocipede) was invented. Because there was not enough food (oats, etc) for humans and horses, a German came up with a 2-wheeled device that a person could use for transportation.

Mon, 04/19/2010 - 07:50 | 307518 Adam Neira
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The caldera of Danau Toba in central Sumatra is a sight to behold. When that blew off thousands of years ago the whole planet must have been affected. I spent a month living on the lake with my girlfriend whilst on a ten month trip travelling through the beautiful archipelago in 1998/99. William Hill in London offers odds on possible sites of further eruptions. Indonesia would be the favourite in my book. More volcanos there than you can poke a stick at.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 13:00 | 306709 spekulatn
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 algore and his nobel buddies in europa can't catch a dam break. Being upstaged by Motha Erf be a bitch n a half.



Sun, 04/18/2010 - 13:09 | 306713 Gubbmint Cheese
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Why doesn't the Fed simply print a pile of money and use it to plug the volcano?

problem solved.


Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:15 | 306762 SteveNYC
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Haha, pure gold comment.


On a more serious note, Mother Earth has been exploding like this since the dawn of time. We have been here a mere tick of the clock, and our industrialist economies and societies a mere fraction of one tick.

This thing could go on for a long time, there is nothing to say that it will just fizzle out. I'm keeping my eye on this big time, could be very devastating.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:16 | 306765 zeroman
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Glad your an authority on what happened before you were born?  who do you believe? the scientists that told us the world was flat?

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:56 | 306819 George the baby...
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Now I understand why you call yourself zeroman.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 15:08 | 306828 nonclaim
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The earth is known to be round for longer than any ancient records found (you need the knowledge before you document it). Greeks had its circumference/radius calculated with reasonable values over 2200 years ago.

Search for historical records and you'll be surprised that the "flat earth" was invented and documented during the Illuminism, no less!, to mock the then current culture.

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 19:04 | 307083 Thomas
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Indeed, the flat Earth concept is a construct from the 19th century. In fact, medieval scholars were trying to calculate the distance to Saturn. They came up with 73 million miles. Although off by a bit (factor of 25), this does not square modern man's view of our predecessors. BTW-Magellan never sailed around the World. Everybody knows that except us modern guys. 

Sun, 04/18/2010 - 14:18 | 306769 zeroman
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now that is funny!! this would be just as successful long term as keeping the tbtf's goin

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