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FDIC Decision Due Out Soon

Bruce Krasting's picture




 

On September 29th the FDIC announced a plan to bolster its reserves.
There were three basic choices. A) Borrow from the Federal Financing
Bank, B) Charge a large special assessment on the banks and C) Have the
banks pre-pay three years of insurance premiums up front.

At
the time, the FDIC gave the public a thirty-day comment period before
the final determination. That time period is up. The letters are in. I
would expect an announcement on this by Ms. Bair before the end of the
week.

This is the link
to the letters. There are a lot of them. The FDIC may choose to ignore
all of the comments, but I think they will address some core issues
raised in their final ruling.

The FDIC went after this with a carrot and a stick. They said to the banks,” If you pay up front we will make the accounting work for you”. “If you don’t, we will charge you a ‘Special Assessment’. That would go through your income statement”.

Bankers
being bankers it is understandable why they would not want to recognize
an expense up front if there was another way around it. Therefore
almost all of the letters were in support of the pre-pay deferred
recognition approach.

There was some support for the FDIC to
tap its credit lines at the Federal Financing Bank. They have a blank
check at the FFB for $100 billion. So the pre-pay option isn’t really
necessary. But the easier FFB option had a significant cost. Ms. Bair
is acutely aware of the ‘anti bailout’ mentality. Her words on the
subject:

“It's clear that the
American people would prefer to see an end to policies that look to the
federal balance sheet as a remedy for every problem.”

This is why the FDIC made it easy for the banks to choose door (C). It’s cosmetics.

Not
surprisingly the Banks all wanted a bone thrown to them. They made a
good case. If they did not prepay they would have earned a spread on
the cash. So in effect the proposal has a negative impact on income. We
wouldn’t want that. A few examples:

 

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Some thoughts on what may come:

-The $45 b prepay is a done deal.

-There
will be exceptions in a number of cases and categories of banks. These
banks will get a drawing from the FFB. That drawing will be guaranteed
by the FDIC. This is small beer. Maybe $5b. It will look like the FDIC
will have no borrowings however.

-There will be no special assessments.

-There
will be a discount on the pre-payment. The banks will be allowed to
take that as income. Top line benefit that has no substance.

-The
assumption that deposits will grow by 5% will be reduced. This will
have the impact of reducing the net amount that the FDIC takes in. (by
just a few billion)

-The statement will reaffirm that deposits are safe and that the FFB (and this cash) is backstopping that promise.

-This will be made to look like a great success. A true private sector solution.

-The ‘system’ will have created another $45 billion of off balance/income statement funding. This will not show up anywhere.

-If
a discount is awarded to the banks then that percentage should be
compared to the cost of tapping the FFB for the shortfall. Any excess
would be a measure of the Government's willingness to avoid the
perception of a bailout.

Congressman Latta was very supportive of the proposal in his letter. I thought his side comments were interesting:

Also of interest was this comment by the ABA.

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Fri, 11/13/2009 - 04:07 | 129477 Anonymous
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Let me see if I've got this straight:

The Gov't loans the banks money at Zero percent interest so the banks can buy Gov't guaranteed T-bills that pay interest. The banks use the interest to give fat million dollar bonuses to bank management. The FDIC charges all banks relatively the same 3 1/2 year upfront fee to backstop the big bad banks that are unprofitable and couldn't borrow a penny if anyone could see their books. FDIC uses the fee money provided by the banks at interest to buy worthless or near worthless real estate from some of the big bad banks, thereby putting the tax payers on the hook. The FDIC opens a US government auction web site in the year 2013 where the big bad banks can buy back for 1% on the dollar all the real estate it sold the FDIC back in 2010 for 75% on the dollar. Ok, this all makes sense to me, now.

Fri, 11/13/2009 - 01:44 | 129422 Anonymous
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This prepay proposal is kabuki theater. Even if it is implemented, it's just a brief prelude to printing up scrip wholesale to pay off depositors in failed banks. Lots of toner left at the Fed, so no problem. They should bring Madoff in to manage this clusterfuck.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 22:46 | 129316 FischerBlack
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Let's see what Failure Friday brings. I can't wait to see the spike in bank failures after the FDIC replenishes the DIF. What amazing timing! Wow, good thing we replenished *before* all these banks failed. Whew!

Aaaand, it's gone.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 22:20 | 129288 Anonymous
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I think the regular old taxpayer should pony up. Heck many of them are out of work and just sitting on their duffs as it is.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 21:48 | 129259 Zippyin Annapolis
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Timmy vs. Sheila--Sheila wins

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 19:02 | 129118 steve from virginia
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The banks lending funds to the FDIC is the least bad option from what the worst situation offers; an assessment is simply a loan to the FDIC by the banks without interest.

As more and more banks fail the assessment/premium issue will become academic. Depositors will eventually be 'supported' by borrowing from the taxpayers' grandchildren. Which means depositors will be supported by nobody in particular.

The banks' biggest problem is they cannot/won't make good loans. Talk about voting, 'No- confidence' with their feet!

Fri, 11/13/2009 - 00:54 | 129395 Anonymous
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Somebody has to lose in this game. No way losses cannot be taken. No free lunch.

Either destroy the currency by printing and debasement. Or allow bank runs until the money runs out. Or default on Treasury debt and defy globalism.

Or contract credit eventually to zero, call all loans, foreclose all collateral. Government then reallocates via whatever political system chosen, and human productivity moves ahead from there in varying degrees of efficiency.

Losses must be realized. Gov't won't allow that to be the banks whose lending errors conjured up this chimera. Treasury debt repudiation will damage foreigners in greater proportion. Dollar debasement will most universally distribute losses.

All else is an exercize in rhetoric and baby steps to collapse.

Fri, 11/13/2009 - 00:41 | 129385 Anonymous
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Extent of insolvency cannot be contained. All future efforts are to forestall the inevitable failure. Children of the future will experience a different "system" and currency, probably a different form of government.

Since the values were so immensely distorted on real assets which formed the basis for the loans in this "late stage" exponential usury debacle, the correction is the equivalent of a RESET. No amount of time dilation or dispensation from accounting integrity can make whole.

The fraud, inflation, distortions, prevarications exceed what can be covered up by even the most inventive means of Fed/Treasonry.

They allowed it to grow far too large. This is the Chernyobl of high finance in a new millenium.

The fullness of time will reveal all things. Until then will be an incomplete discovery and step disclosure of the systemic corruption of capital and allocation of productive mankind.

Now comes the slow slide.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 16:49 | 128939 carbonmutant
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What is the FDIC going to do for next year's shortfall?

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 17:10 | 128964 TimmyM
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That is the scary question. They really need about 300B. Some alternatives are:

All the strong banks say FU and unplug from national charters and form theirown private insurance program.(maybe they could start a central bank too!) This would at least keep the A-holes from taking everybody down.

Repeal most of Gramm, Leach, Bliley and solve TBTF.

Get the rules changed where insured limits go way up but put in a 2% co-pay for investors-thus making the hot gatherers pay 200 bps over the well capitalized market.

Dissolve the FDIC and just make it all Treasury guaranteed with a co-pay.

Institute a material risk based premium system.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 16:46 | 128934 Anonymous
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Let me see if I've got his straight:

The Gov't loans the banks money at Zero percent interest, so the banks can buy Gov't guaranteed T-bills that pay interest. Use the interest to give fat million dollar bonuses to bank management. Charge all banks the relatively same 3 1/2 year upfront fee to backstop the big bad banks that are unprofitable and couldn't borrow a penny if anyone could see their books. Use the fee money provided by the banks at interest to buy worthless or near worthless real estate from some of the big bad banks, thereby putting the tax payers on the hook. Open a US government auction site in the year 2013 where the big bad banks can buy back for 1% on the dollar all the real estate it sold the FDIC back in 2010 for 75% on the dollar. Ok, this all makes sense, now.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 16:46 | 128932 Anonymous
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Let me see if I've got his straight:

The Gov't loans the banks money at Zero percent interest, so the banks can buy Gov't guaranteed T-bills that pay interest. Use the interest to give fat million dollar bonuses to bank management. Charge all banks the relatively same 3 1/2 year upfront fee to backstop the big bad banks that are unprofitable and couldn't borrow a penny if anyone could see their books. Use the fee money provided by the banks at interest to buy worthless or near worthless real estate from some of the big bad banks, thereby putting the tax payers on the hook. Open a US government auction site in the year 2013 where the big bad banks can buy back for 1% on the dollar all the real estate it sold the FDIC back in 2010 for 75% on the dollar. Ok, this all makes sense, now.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 14:29 | 128705 chet
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How long will $45 billion last the FDIC anyway?  How much have they gone through this year already?

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 14:25 | 128699 Racer
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What a cheek!!

Takes the biscuit that does completely

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 14:07 | 128675 Anonymous
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The ironic thing is that any special assessment or prepayment penalizes the banks that did it right. In essence, the strong banks pay for the failures of the weak banks. And, of course, the TBTF banks continue to be rewarded.

The only observation I wanted to make was that the whole FDIC system is a kind of scam anyway. It is an insurance policy every bank has to have in order to run their business, so every bank is at the mercy of the FDIC for "premiums" and "assessments". You can't cancel your insurance, or you go out of business because the general populace doesn't believe their money is safe unless it is FDIC insured. (Ironic, isn't it?)

This forum makes a number of blanket statements about the banking industry and how evil it is, but the fact of the matter is that many banks are worth doing business with and stand on their own two feet, no thanks to the FDIC.

I work for a well-capitalized and profitable Thrift, and sometimes I think that we wish the FDIC didn't exist at all. Then strong institutions would be rewarded for their strength, and weak institutions would be penalized by the market.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 19:24 | 129139 rational
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You should read some history.  When a panic comes, depositors won't listen to your explanation of how strong your bank is, the will withdraw first and ask questions later.  Without deposit insurance, bank runs destroy all banks, weak or strong.  That's why it was created in the first place.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 15:39 | 128817 Dburn
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Go back to 1996 to 2006 when no premiums were paid thanks to the ABA lobbying congress. They felt that the 52 billion in the FDIC account was more than sufficient. The payments resumed when Bair took office in 2006 after she convinced congress that the amount really wasn't sufficient.

 

Or put another way, imagine if they had paid the premiums during the years they were flush.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 12:52 | 128577 bugs_
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Banco Festiva!!!!!

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 12:35 | 128558 Anonymous
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Why not redirect some of the TARP repayments into the FDIC fund and also use them to retire FDIC bank guarantees?

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 15:34 | 128811 Dburn
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The response I would like to see from Bair to the whining bankers.

 

I can understand why you might think that this pre-assessment  would  inhibit your  capital without a discount.

 

 

So we came up with the BBFS Option:  We would hire an outside team of specialists  to  go through all your derivitives to find out your bank's  net liability if they were brought back on the balance sheet. This would help us  to see which would have the most detrimental effect on your capital. By golly if the pre-assessment outweighs your consolidated derivative liability, we would be open to a meeting between you , the FDIC and the Dept of Justice as we review your real estate transactions from 2004 on. If there are no problems there , meaning you still have your freedom, we may be open to preliminary discussions of a credit that could be used against the post-assessments  we are considering for the 10 years from 1996 to 2006 when you paid no premiums.

 

If the Liability does exceed the pre-assessement by a significant magin where it say zeroes out all your capital, well, lets not go into that now until we get all the assessements in. Lets just leave it as; we would have to create a new shit list that no bank would want to be on

 

So we are clear:

1. You can pay the pre-assessment and STFU or the PASTFU option

2. Our preference would be for you to place your bets on the BBFS option outlined above which we refer to as Bank Building For Sale. Please refer to it as the BBFS in all future communications as you must know by now how much Timmy loves his acronyms..

 

Please be advised that the assessment in no way immunizes you from any criminal prosecution or civil actions should someone with spine unexpectedly show themselves in Govt.

 

 

Please advise on what would be the best option for your fine institution.

 

Sincerely

 

Sheila "I found my FDIC rule book" Bair.

 

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 22:23 | 129295 Cistercian
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 That is the funniest post today by far, totally priceless!!!

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 12:01 | 128514 Catullus
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Did the ABA just suggest that the FDIC take the pre-pay money and buy RE bonds?  The plan: take three years worth of premiums for insurance to backstop decapitalized banks (so take more money from already undercapitalized banks), pay interest on the pre-paid premiums, then take the premium payments and buy real estate off the books of the banks (effectively giving the money right back to banks).  Wonderful.  Except the banks you buy the RE bonds from are not all the same banks you took the premiums from.  So you decapitalize the smallest banks to buy the assets of the largest banks.  Bruce, I need a flow chart.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 12:51 | 128575 economessed
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You just nailed it. 

R.I.P. Moral Hazard (1231 B.C. - 2007)

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 11:56 | 128509 Anonymous
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Somebody know some good commercial real estate stock to start shorting right now? :)

Fortress Investment Group LLC still looks like a money maker to short I guess :)

anybody have any good ideas?

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 18:22 | 129068 Master Bates
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GBE - Grubb and Ellis

* this recommendation should not be construed as financial advice.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 14:54 | 128747 Dburn
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Keep a hair trigger on the buy button if you do. This market has not shown one ounce of decency to us bears. It hates us.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 11:42 | 128478 Anonymous
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These are the same banksters that made these imploding loans. Why are many of the same mgts in place running the show now?
These bloodsuckers need to be booted into the unemployment lines. And these banksters should pick up the tabs for years to come.

Fri, 11/13/2009 - 01:17 | 128472 Problem Is
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I still vote for special assessment on Timmay G's Aunt Lloyd and Uncle Jamie whether the prepay is a done deal or not...

Disclaimer: I hope none of the above violates any of Marla's new rules crackdown...

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 11:41 | 128468 Problem Is
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Thu, 11/12/2009 - 22:24 | 129296 Anonymous
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Ha Ha! When the DVD drive on my lap top cranked up all by itself the other day I decided that maybe I should dial back the rhetoric a tad.

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