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Fear Index Now Inverse To VIX

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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:18 | 18461 Bryan
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The VIX is down so low now because there IS no volatility any more.  Notice from day to day as the first hour of trading is up and down, then someone steps in and causes the market to trade in a tight range?  No wonder the VIX is down, but not reflecting any 'fear' in the market.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:20 | 18465 Project Mayhem
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Since its introduction in 1993, VIX has been considered by
many to be the world’s premier barometer of investor senti-
ment and market volatility. The VIX Index is an implied vola-
tility index that measures the market’s expectation of 30-day
S&P 500® volatility implicit in the prices of near-term S&P
500 options. VIX is quoted in percentage points, just like the
standard deviation of a rate of return. The VIX closing price
in 2005 was 12.07.



Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:07 | 18541 spekulatn
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Here I thought the VIX was introduced in 1988...thanks PM for this teachable moment ;>-~



Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:33 | 18487 Comrade de Chaos
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"Oil prices were "well overpriced" in the $70s and will continue to weaken in the weeks and months ahead, says James Cordier, President of Liberty Trading Group and co-author of The Complete Guide to Option Selling."

2nd guy calling OIL @ 70 a total BS, wonder if robots are capable of "ducking & covering?"

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:42 | 18491 Project Mayhem
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Check out Rob Kirby's article on oil manipulation -- turns out much of the oil crash may have been caused by USgovt swapping sweet crude for sour out of the SPR -- hence the price inversion of Brent vs. WTI.


Stop the Ponzimonium [and Pawns-a-monium]
Shame on CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton
BY ROB KIRBY | june 29, 2009


As evidenced above, crude oil has also been swapped – likely sweet crude, WTI - for less expensive sour crude. Under such a scenario physical sweet crude left the SPR, creating a market glut of “premium sweet oil.” This set off an engineered over-supply chain reaction in the crude complex which depressed WTI’s price relative to Brent Crude. Because supply chain storage facilities are finite and were completely filled in the Texas / Cushing region, this also contributed to further price declines in the crude complex.

This would also explain the phenomena of the world’s VLCC [very large crude carrier] Fleet being fully booked for storage purposes while the Baltic Dry Index is at or near record lows.



Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:06 | 18538 Oso
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ya, not sure i believe that.  why on earth would the SPR be switched into heavier grades of crude?  the whole point of the SPR is to be strategic.  there isnt very much heavy refining capability in the US, and globally, period.  doing this would mean the SPR should be called the Dumb-Ass Petrolum Reserve.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:14 | 18555 Project Mayhem
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Perhaps.  I've yet to see a better explanation for the WTI/Brent inversion during that time period, nor of the DOE's notification of engaging in 'oil swaps'.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:36 | 18490 Anonymous
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go back to the old site

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:59 | 18525 Danz Gambit
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forget it, its done, man up

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 19:16 | 18735 VegasBD
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The old site would be censored soon, the dmca notices were piling up.


Ironic that you have to get out of this country to have freedom.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:40 | 18494 novanglus
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What captures the fear of the investors that pulled out of the market and are sitting in cash?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:50 | 18512 Gilgamesh
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Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:01 | 18526 dnarby
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One way ticket sales out of the country.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:08 | 18542 deadhead
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NYC is paying for one way airfare out of the city for homeless families.  Article was in the NY Daily News.


Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:42 | 18497 Comrade de Chaos
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p.s. An interesting chart, the real fear must be somewhere in the middle. It probably indicates that retail & institutions are reluctant to decrease their risk aversion and somewhat lagging when it comes to decision making and timing. However this is my take, and it might be a bit off, since reality at this point is directly correlated to ones' employment & luck rather than possession of sufficient data.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:44 | 18498 i.knoknot
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Good to have another metric for the toolkit, but any indicator that i cannot regenerate from public raw un-manipulable (is that a word?) data sources is barely worth the magnetic material it's written to. As soon as a proprietary indicator gains fashion, the "powers that be" will take hold of the indicator. And why wouldn't they?

Witness CPI, unemployment, VIX, housing prices/starts ... it's all good for the tomato plants.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:46 | 18502 Anonymous
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When oil made its last big dip it was when the the CFTC announced that position size was "under review"

That is when the oil speculators left last time.

What happened today?...same headline same result. OIL TANK! Not to mention Goldman came out today Totally against the rule...(STORY WAS ON BLOOMBERG TODAY FOR LIKE A FEW MINUTES AND THEN IT WAS GONE)

We pay at the pump and Goldman collects the money at the Oil pit. That is just another example of how these motherfuckers are able to continue to fleece the American public as well as these other pricks that do the same thing.

Reform needs to start in NY because any reform started in Washington will still be puppets of the big banks.


Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:58 | 18524 DebtorShredder
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When do you realize that they don't represent you?

The only thing that changed was the names.


Wed, 07/29/2009 - 21:42 | 18876 Anonymous
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so true

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:19 | 18560 Anonymous
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Bloomberg has been bad for that lately. Can you remember what the headline was or some good keywords to look in google's cache?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:46 | 18503 maximus
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Whatever comes out of these gates, we've got a better chance of survival if we work together. Do you understand? If we stay together we survive.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:48 | 18507 Anonymous
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:49 | 18508 Dr Hackenbush
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the squeeze is on - hope no one got suckered. 



Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:51 | 18514 Alexander Supertramp
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"VIX has become irrelevant as an indicator of sentiment."

No shit, Sherlock.  Caveat emptor to those who ever thought it was (or furthermore that such a thing might even be remotely useful even if it were possible to model).

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:54 | 18517 Anonymous
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this is the effin correction we have all been waiting for AMEN...btw, did u covered all your shorts yet???

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:54 | 18519 Anonymous
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3:30 pump is on! S&P500 goes vertical

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:11 | 18547 Anonymous
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yes it did

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:20 | 18563 Anonymous
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Makes me wish I day traded. It's absurdly predictable.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:56 | 18521 Anonymous
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CSFB Index is essentially driven by put-call parity, or lack there of, which is in practice a function of volatility. So, these two indices have a tendency to move opposite each other. Using the since inception history for CSFB (per Bloomberg), it has a -53% correlation with VIX and a positive 19% correlation with SPX

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:28 | 18576 Fruffing
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Thanks for clarifying this#1851.   As the site's followers grow, the level of drivel is going up in the commentary.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:41 | 18601 Anonymous
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you're quite welcome, and I've noticed that too.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 21:54 | 18886 Anonymous
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Check the correlation for the period shown in chart shown above (~11/20/2008-6/30/2009) of the CSFB Fear Index and the S&P 500 Index. You'll find the correlation is a little higher than 19%. Heck, just eyeball it. I can only conclude that the most effective manner in which the economy may be improved is to introduce more fear into the market. So let it be written, so it shall be done.

Fri, 07/31/2009 - 16:27 | 21162 Anonymous
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Another factor could be, CSFB is a function of 3-month forward volatility while the VIX is 30-day forward volatility. There may be a divergence between these two.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 15:57 | 18522 Anonymous
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A recent picture of your U.S. Goldman Sachs trading desk:


Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:01 | 18527 Anonymous
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Pisani says victory for the Bulls so much I feel like Michael Jordan is playing again.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:03 | 18529 Gilgamesh
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Going to start calling him Johnny Drama.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:09 | 18544 I need more cowbell
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He doesn't have the calf muscles for it.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:04 | 18531 mdtrader
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Well there was a whole host of bad news today. You would have expected 200 point down day, but it held up yet again. If the market doesn't go down significantly when the news is that bad, then when will it?

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:06 | 18537 deadhead
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"If the market doesn't go down significantly when the news is that bad, then when will it?"


1. when you least expect it.

2. immediately after you covered your short



Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:15 | 18556 mdtrader
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Have puts.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:06 | 18540 Anonymous
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When someone pulls the plug on GS HFT computers!

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:16 | 18558 DebtorShredder
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Watch out for falling bric's.

They hurt when dropped from high levels.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:04 | 18532 deadhead
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18527...that was good....VERY good!

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:03 | 18530 Anonymous
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NDX: 12 consecutive higher lows, 14 consecutive closes greater than the open.

BENTIM9000 has got to be spitting out smoke at this point.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:05 | 18535 Anonymous
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Crazy market, just lure shorters in on the back of pathetic fundamentals stuff, like auction, dreadful Beige book and wham, hit them going into close as per usual.

Dot com wasn't anywhere near as ridiculous as this

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:16 | 18557 Anonymous
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3 things:

1) SPX options face serious competition these days.

2) Given the past two weeks action how does the VXN compare?

3) More and more people (or machines) trading options as a proxy has to chow up somewhere.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:17 | 18559 McLuvin
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Tyler, would you mind posting this on a regular basis?  Not necessarily everyday, but perhaps every week.  It would be helpful to have a good read into fear levels not shown by the VIX.  Two interesting take aways I see from this chart.  One, it seems the upward trajectory during a relatively calm market answers questions of where the juice for the big rally of the last few weeks came from.  And two, it's interesting that the measure is currently at the same level it was in January when the market last peaked, with the markets at similar levels.  The VIX used to provide this type of insight, but using that as a gauge the last 6 months would have provided no such information.  I looks like the peak at the end of June was a perfect trading buy signal, and the current still high level highlights the true dangers of trying to get short.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:19 | 18561 Ags Nightmare
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HFT's having a field day scalping those 1/2 pennies......DOW JOKES up "30" points in the last four days. 25 Billion cow chips being churned to to dust. The NasCrack barely moved also.

Lost Money all sold into the close as well ater telling everyone you just "gotta own this space" and "you just gotta be in this space".......yesterday...still haven't heard a peep out of the panel about their strong buy on amazon pre earnings.

This looked like the computers were positoning for tomorrow's gamed number which I'm sure is being held in an envelope in strict confidence by Mr. Beeks.


Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:24 | 18567 Anonymous
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Compare that CSFB Fear Index to the S&P 500 Index. Hmmm. Pretty high positive correlation there. Fear, or out-of-the money put volume? A nice measure of hedging liquidity.

Wed, 07/29/2009 - 16:25 | 18568 GlassHammer
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Is this the market of Bizarro World?

Its not as charming as I imagined it to be.

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