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Fed Begins Tightening Process: Discount Rate Raised To 0.75% From 0.5%, Futures Plunge, Dollar Surges, Curve Pancakes

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Will the Steepener/Carry Trade/Long Stock bandwagon please proceed calmly in single file through the exit of the burning theater. Fed hikes discount rate by 25 bps - Hoenig, Plosser are finally heard. Futures plunge, dollar surges, 2s10s pancake.

Full Fed Press Release:

 

For release at 4:30 p.m. EDT

The Federal Reserve Board on Thursday announced that in light of
continued improvement in financial market conditions it had unanimously
approved several modifications to the terms of its discount window
lending programs.

Like the closure of a number of extraordinary credit
programs earlier this month, these changes are intended as a further
normalization of the Federal Reserve's lending facilities. The
modifications are not expected to lead to tighter financial conditions
for households and businesses and do not signal any change in the
outlook for the economy or for monetary policy, which remains about as
it was at the January meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee
(FOMC). At that meeting, the Committee left its target range for the
federal funds rate at 0 to 1/4 percent and said it anticipates that
economic conditions are likely to warrant exceptionally low levels of
the federal funds rate for an extended period.

The changes to the discount window facilities
include Board approval of requests by the boards of directors of the 12
Federal Reserve Banks to increase the primary credit rate (generally
referred to as the discount rate) from 1/2 percent to 3/4 percent. This
action is effective on February 19.

In addition, the Board announced that, effective on
March 18, the typical maximum maturity for primary credit loans will be
shortened to overnight. Primary credit is provided by Reserve Banks on
a fully secured basis to depository institutions that are in generally
sound condition as a backup source of funds. Finally, the Board
announced that it had raised the minimum bid rate for the Term Auction
Facility (TAF) by 1/4 percentage point to 1/2 percent. The final TAF
auction will be on March 8, 2010.

Easing the terms of primary credit was one of the
Federal Reserve's first responses to the financial crisis. On August
17, 2007, the Federal Reserve reduced the spread of the primary credit
rate over the FOMC's target for the federal funds rate to 1/2
percentage point, from 1 percentage point, and lengthened the typical
maximum maturity from overnight to 30 days. On December 12, 2007, the
Federal Reserve created the TAF to further improve the access of
depository institutions to term funding. On March 16, 2008, the Federal
Reserve lowered the spread of the primary credit rate over the target
federal funds rate to 1/4 percentage point and extended the maximum
maturity of primary credit loans to 90 days.

Subsequently, in response to improving conditions
in wholesale funding markets, on June 25, 2009, the Federal Reserve
initiated a gradual reduction in TAF auction sizes. As announced on
November 17, 2009, and implemented on January 14, 2010, the Federal
Reserve began the process of normalizing the terms on primary credit by
reducing the typical maximum maturity to 28 days.

The increase in the discount rate announced
Thursday widens the spread between the primary credit rate and the top
of the FOMC's 0 to 1/4 percent target range for the federal funds rate
to 1/2 percentage point. The increase in the spread and reduction in
maximum maturity will encourage depository institutions to rely on
private funding markets for short-term credit and
to use the Federal Reserve's primary credit facility only as a backup
source of funds. The Federal Reserve will assess over time whether
further increases in the spread are appropriate in view of experience
with the 1/2 percentage point spread.




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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:46 | Link to Comment deadhead
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This ought to be a great thread.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:11 | Link to Comment strike for retu...
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I guess the vampire squid finished selling equity calls this afternoon.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:22 | Link to Comment deadhead
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every last one of them, between spx 1106-1107....thought that quick rocket up just after 2 p.m. EST was kinda funny.  there's always a reason.

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:36 | Link to Comment strike for retu...
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The wisdom of the central planners is not be questioned.

I do wonder if those who make their living from stealing realize that they should stop after they've stolen everything.  A bit of wisdom would suggest stopping before stealing everything because it is a bad thing when the rest of the country decides it has nothing left to lose.

(For those who lost their way and belong back on cnbc, the first sentence is sarcasm.)

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Mr. Anonymous
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+1

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:53 | Link to Comment crosey
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Things did feel odd.  Internals looked okay, but nothing to blow you away.  Lots of indecision and coiling up in the afternoon.  Knew there would be a break one way or another.  Happened to sell my contracts at 1106.50.  Nice to be right once or twice.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:35 | Link to Comment AR
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Hey DH  /  Yes, we're around and trading fiercely (and well). You stay alert, these are good markets for us old timers (you understand what I'm talking about). Stay FOCUSED our good friend. Tyler posted an article yesterday referencing JP Morgan setting aside $3-Billion for "quant" problems (this is a quiet "tell" for those paying attention). This gets messy. Be well...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:48 | Link to Comment deadhead
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thanks AR!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:04 | Link to Comment defender
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TD, Denninger has a graph showing 2MM SPY trading seconds before the announcement.  It was a very noticeable spike.  Have to wonder which computers algo wasn't in synch with the server, or who was pushing the package a little too hard.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:47 | Link to Comment E pluribus unum
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S&P will hit 1300 tomorrow

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:09 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Nope. They got 126B in treasuries to sell next week and came damn close to a failed auction on that last 30yr. Scare the money to the sides tomorrow so everything goes smooth.

This reality tv show has gone into repeats.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment strike for retu...
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>They got 126B in treasuries to sell next week<

I think a different verb is required when a Treserve computer in NYC "sells" a bond to a Treserve computer in London. 

Maybe "debase".

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:13 | Link to Comment strike for retu...
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Is that a polite way of saying "f*ck*d"?

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 07:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:22 | Link to Comment E pluribus unum
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It went up almost 100 points today with unemployment claims increasing, annual energy inflation hitting 25% and a crazy homegrown terrorist flying a plane into a government building. A 1/4% rate increase is nada.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 01:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:23 | Link to Comment Hansel
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But if the Fed is going to start hiking rates, why would I buy bonds now?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:59 | Link to Comment Stuart
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and one of these days buyers will stop proving that the Fed is right in their conviction that they really as as stupid as the Fed thinks they are. 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:52 | Link to Comment Salah
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Obama meets the Dali Lama, China makes good on their warnings (after setting up the disposal of all corporates & non-feds).  So, US Fed has to wreck stocks to fund treasuries.   Tyler predicted this Christmas Day with his post "Brace for Impact"...go back and read, then re-read again.  No federal bailout, part 2, Scott Brown & Evan Bayh stopped that.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 07:54 | Link to Comment wprosser
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yes, and last weeks auctions have nothing to do with this right??? China wants a higher rate and given that the Treserve is having an issue monetizing our debt without our overseas helper...

CNBC says it is good bc things are fixed- sure-

the vix is cheap....

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:49 | Link to Comment GoldSilverDoc
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This is going to be a fun month.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Mongo
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Pump up the jam!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment MarketTruth
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Great song, though Buffalo Stance by Neneh Cherry during that same time period is better imho.

And you'll find out if you do that...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Mongo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K7fL5s_1ac

 

Imagine Helicopter-Ben and Timmay! dancing that groove! I just KNOW Lloyd Blankfein would be somewhere in that picutre too.. eightlegged dancegroves squid-stryle!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:56 | Link to Comment MarketTruth
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Nice one!

Ok, my take...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsRz3TJDEY

Heli Ben with the gold $ sign (Neneh) with Godmaster L.B.Fein on the wheels of steel.

L.B. Fein then enters CONgress wearing his M2M Brioni suit while the beat contnues...

Who's that gigolo on the street
With his hands in his in YOUR pockets and crocodile shoes on his feet

Who's looking good today?
Who's looking good in every way?
No style CONgress rookie
You better watch don't mess with me...

Yo' man what do you expect?
The guy's a gigolo man!
You know I mean...

---------------------------

Well, either that or just go right to pure evil with Carl Orff – O Fortuna

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMQOX3h7ZI

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 05:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:50 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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Dr. Hoenig's dissent sounds like it was prescient...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:51 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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Is this a joke?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:55 | Link to Comment monmick
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It is a joke, but not in the way you mean...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:08 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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I thought it might be another piece from the onion. As clear a case of market manipulation as we may ever witness.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 09:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:52 | Link to Comment truont
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Oh, so that is what happened to gold...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:57 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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I was thinking Oil and others as well.  Maybe even cotton.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:03 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Cotton. Yeah. Everyone is going to need new shorts now.

Long fruit-o-the-loom, baby.

 

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:09 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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+1000

I was getting depressed by the lousy news everywhere until I hit your comment about everyone needing new shorts.  Hmm, better go change mine in case "something else" comes in tonight.  Ugh.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 07:55 | Link to Comment wprosser
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duh

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:53 | Link to Comment P Rankmug
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All it took was one small plane impacting an IRS building.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Psquared
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Exactly, now everyone will be paying attention to financial news and forget about the "Stack Manifesto."

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:05 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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In future they will refer to any suspicious Fed activity after-hours as "stacking" or "a stack event".

Nobody will remember where the term came from. Wikipedia will have an entry, but it will be totally wrong.

cougar

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:02 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Sadly, one person is missing, presumed dead...2 injured.

The Suicide note was Classic though...........

Loosely paraphrased, Ok, you Bstd's,you took everthing except a pound of flesh, and I am going to give that to you and more.

At least he was lucid..and pissed.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:42 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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The plane crashing into the building totally fries me.  What a complete waste of a person willing to kill himself.  In case there are any upcoming suiciders out there, at least put me on your life insurance policy!!!!

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:37 | Link to Comment Dirtt
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Yes Sir.  You almost don't want to think about it.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:55 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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The rationale for this totally FUBAR!!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:56 | Link to Comment SDRII
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IMF annoucement + Discount Window annoucnement...Is that China on the line, please hold..

Info campaign full stop

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:56 | Link to Comment Fritz
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The day before Opex?

unbefuckinglivible

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:21 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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unbefuckinglivible.

 

Actually, not really.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Hansel
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Yep, really SOP (standard operating procedure).  Like August 2007 in reverse.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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Nice how they got the IMF talk in there too about selling in the same 24 hours... isn't it?  If I wasnt already in the camp that believes in coordinated smack downs of gold ala GATA claims, this would surely make me more inclined to believe it.

 

On the other hand, with China's recent moves in getting rid of treasuries it looks like the fed just blinked.  Bet you wont hear anything about China's currency for a while either now.  Looks like they got their point across. 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:24 | Link to Comment deadhead
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as i think i recall...didn't greenspan pull one of these the other way, i.e. dropped the rate (fed funds i think) just before opex?  ouch for those holding puts then

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Dixie Normous
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Probably 9 years ago, mid morning, Feb or March, surprise cut at a very key level.  Lot of shorts got fucked by 10 point moves in almost every financial, not to mention the tech stocks were still on roids.

I think Greeny liked the surprise cuts, kept everyone guessing as to how wise he was.  Man ......

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 08:44 | Link to Comment AR
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DH  /  Greenspan cut rates a full point on the Thursday before expiration in October 1998 at 3:11PM/EST right after the bond pit closed. S&P's gapped up 75 handles, Dow futures jumped approx. 500 points, bonds went limit down on the open on expiration Friday. Memories...it's good to be an old-timer.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:56 | Link to Comment john_connor
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CARNAGE in after hours.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment deadhead
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i just want to see the big gap at 901 spx filled......like, soon!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:01 | Link to Comment john_connor
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whatever you do, don't close your shorts or sell your puts too early.  this is going to be a fun two weeks for the bears.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:28 | Link to Comment dumpster
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We are never deceived; we but deceive ourselves.]

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

jesse

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:15 | Link to Comment milbank
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My favorite quote of von Goethe's . . .

"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free."

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:24 | Link to Comment abalone
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kudos to you John for so many correct calls...hope you enjoy

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Instant Karma
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Any how much can the FED raise interests rates, really, when the Treasury is issuing billions in new debt each month, and billions more of short term debt matures and has to be rolled over. C'mon. They can tweek the rates but any meaningful rise in rates will mean an unservicable amount of interest, unless we go to quantitative easing part 2 (which we will have to, it's just math).

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:35 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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I think they have to. Almost had a busted auction last week. They need the foreign demand to come back. Bad luck for equities and commodities.....

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Traianus Augustus
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There were 50,000 March SPX puts bought yesterday in uniform manner at strikes of 600 thru 650.  5 purchases in increments of 10,000 contracts.  I'm just saying...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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That was me!  What, are you logging my key strokes or something?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:38 | Link to Comment Assetman
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Man... that's just freaking AWESOME.

And not in a good way.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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 -

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Cyan Lite
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The day before OpEx?  Seriously.  Maybe the PPT was short 1110 SPX calls for tomorrow...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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or the direct bidder banks were on the wrong end of too many trades that would end up in the black for investors.  Just another way to help recapitalize the banksters...

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:04 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Theres 126B in treasuries to sell next week. This shouldnt be a surprise. Scare all the money to the sidelines tomorrow to prep for 'unexpectadly good' bond sales.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Assetman
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Of course, I hope you know the Treserve will need to repeat this feat numerous times before they refinance all that is needed.

I'm surprised this has happened so soon, but it fits in with the Fed pulling back their special loan facilities. 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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Day before OP EX.  Not a joke, but a fuckin nightmare to the bulls!

 

They need a collpase in equities.  No one is left to buy the Treasuries, and now they know it!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:26 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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not just Treasuries, MBS too.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:57 | Link to Comment Dirtt
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Bada Bing!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Rusty_Shackleford
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Bingo.  True Goldbugs absolutely love our little central bankers and live for dollar rallies. 

Who wouldn't love some more time to accumulate gold under $1000?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Dr o love
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I'm gonna grab me some sub $700.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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Word

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:17 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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then youll be waiting a lonnnng time.  Other central banks (ie China) are buyers and a floor in the price way above 700.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:21 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Gold is a bargain now.  Gold will be a bargain at $1500.  Gold would be a bargain at $800, but I don't think we'll ever see that again.

Think long term.  Buy now.  Buy later.  Buy after that.  Never sell, just give it away real quiet when you get old.

fofoa.blogspot.com offers an apparently unique and sophisticated take on gold as the ultimate wealth preserver.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 07:12 | Link to Comment boiow
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what ! silver

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Psquared
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The market will open lower in the morning and will soar tomorrow afternoon. This is one of those rare moments when you can make a killing on a quick trade. Short everything related to mining, materials and metals in the morning and buy them back cheap in the afternoon. Tech stocks, industrials, and probably banking stocks will go up in the afternoon.

This should be interesting.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:09 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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The modifications are not expected to lead to tighter financial conditions for households and businesses and do not signal any change in the outlook for the economy or for monetary policy...

Yeah.

Look, a unicorn!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:10 | Link to Comment monopoly
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Well, it looks like I will be buying more gold tomorrow. I love it when the inmates run the asylum.

This is worse than a grade B movie. Financial conditions improving. No, you can't make this stuff up. Fed begins tightening process. Right, next step in 2099, spring, I think.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Postal
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"They're coming to take me away, haha!"

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:10 | Link to Comment CB
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ponzi artistry at work.  soooo beautiful.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:11 | Link to Comment Cyan Lite
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Currently awaiting CNBC spin:

"This is bullish for the markets, the Fed is getting comfortable with our economic recovery!"

Maybe ZH should change its tagline:

Higher Rates, the new green shoots.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:27 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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Yes, that's how it will be spun. I don't expect these assholes at the Fed to have learned anything about "low interest rates for an extended period" from the last two collapses! Don't tell me they are taking note of their prior fuck-ups.

Bernanke probably had a hernia before announcing this.

Even though 0.25 is not a lot, it is more of a psychological rape for the momo's that have chased this pig at least 50% above its fundamental value. Bring it down.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:42 | Link to Comment ATG
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Conveniently, CNBC on vacation for the

Olympics so 0 bragging on his accomplish

-ments.

Next stop 2% T Bills, 23% real

unemployment and anti-aircraft batteries

at every IRS Echelon office...

http://www.jubileeprosperity.com/

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:40 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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This whole thing has crossed many times and then some the unbelievable level. What the F#*$ they want?

Equities up or down??????????

 

What do they want?  They want you to put it in treasuries as they need tons of capital that foreigners aint gonna provide.  So if they can make it so volatile that shorts and longs get toasted (except for the big prop trading desks anyways) people take assets out of specualtive stock investmetns and go to "safe" items such as treasuries - or so they hope.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:53 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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+1

Perhaps the only safe investment is in improving ourselves.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 08:48 | Link to Comment Nick Utah
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+10

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:13 | Link to Comment DMA Trader
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say bye bye to gold 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment CB
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which do you mean, long or short term?  check the fed funds rate from 2004-2007 and then check gold.  raising the rate a 1/4 pt might not mean much yet unless you're a day trader. 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:21 | Link to Comment DMA Trader
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only short term. 

on the long term. we have the one and only SECULAR BULL TREND :)

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:34 | Link to Comment CB
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yep

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:52 | Link to Comment ATG
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You mean by 2038?...

http://econocasts.com/

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Nice big pile of MBS sitting at the Fed.  So does the Fed plan to foreclose on all those houses or create enough inflation that the "renters" keep paying the mortgage?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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You need to read Lawrence Summers paper as a young PhD wherein he solved Gibson's Paradox re: gold.  Basically, when the real rates rise gold does too.  Which is where we are.  A 1/4 point move by the Fed aint changing anything other than a little noise for a small while.  And yes, please raise rates further another point or two.  Lets see what happens to the economy then.  Considering the majority of the last quarter was inventory replenishment and not going to happen again next qtr lets see them keep raising rates going forward.  Lets me buy more cheaper.  Wait till the next ten years are done.  I believe gold will do extrememly well over that period.  Small moves like today are more noise to the long term cycle than anything else.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:47 | Link to Comment dumpster
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gold maybe to 1080 next week then up to new high

in april a sell off from a high ,,

the gold goodbuyers have now been wrong for 9 years

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:08 | Link to Comment dumpster
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The final Pillar in the gold bull market is a bear market in US Treasuries.

The increase in the discount rate to 0.75% is driven by market realities and a desire to be able to sell US Treasuries as foreign demand falls off.

The bull market in gold moved from $400 to $887.50 in the 1970s as interest rates rose from 3% to 14 7.8% on Ten Year money.

Once again the knee jerk reaction is to sell gold and buy the dollar. Be assured this must happen.

Because the final Pillar is falling while Gold is over $1000, you can look at Armstrong’s $5000 prediction as a realistic possibility.

Stay the course.

Respectfully,
Jim sinclair

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:14 | Link to Comment jm
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Breaking out the champaign tonight.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Unscarred
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I'll toast to that.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:59 | Link to Comment strike for retu...
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>champaign

Are you in Urbana, or did you already tap the champagne?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:56 | Link to Comment jm
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Oh God you're a dickhead.

 

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 07:13 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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but perceptive (and witty).

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment ratava
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our squid friends have been pricing this in all day yesterday

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment DMA Trader
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how the  .... 

can they do that 1 day before opex. 

incredible. 

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Cyan Lite
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Same way they print money:

 

UPDATE [Rates] WITH(ROWLOCK)

SET [DiscountRate] = 0.75

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:28 | Link to Comment DMA Trader
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this is to much. i got a feeling today that something was wrong. with PA.

didn't have guts to enter long or short on the dollar. 

the PA was really strange. 

And I always expect something to happen before OPEX.

but this is to much. 

China is supose to defend the 1,35 on EUR/USD. 

Oh and China is closed. This is amazing. 

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Fritz
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TD - 

I was right in the middle of a swig of scotch while I was reading the opening sentence.... I laughed so hard scotch came out my nose.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:29 | Link to Comment DMA Trader
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I just closed my day and was about to see a movie. 

I came back my charts all went crazy. 

Coulnd't believe my eyes

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 19:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment chet
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So now we look at today's activity to see who knew about this before hand?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Racer
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Er um, uh, can I have just a GuesssssS?

 

 

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Racer
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It will be interesting to see how they push the overnight futures... PPT at work to prop or not... normally they should have left itill after expiry?

 

But on the other hand, maybe this is the way to give the nod to the banksters before expiry and in more legal way

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Cyan Lite
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I believe they will prop.  This actually might be a good buying opportunity for the /ES

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Joanito
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oh hell yeah....  Wow can't imagine that Heli Ben got his days mixed up.  He was exactly 24 hours early.  Unless of course he was just sending a gentle howitzer shot across the bow of carry trade types globally.  But I really cannot imagine that he seriously wants a strong dollar, so I think that he is merely saving face and appear to still have some sort of control by taking credit for a raise that the markets around the world were about to impose anyway

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:22 | Link to Comment Cyan Lite
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CNBC is currently prefacing the announcement by calling the discount rate "largely symbolic".

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:12 | Link to Comment Joanito
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I'm not sure exactly what it symbolizes for the banks except major roll risk if indeed they are expected to raise money "privately". This smacks of Big O finally figuring out how to crack some skulls.  The timing of this announcement is highly suspect.  The idea that this was telegraphed is comical to me.  In the last week I've probably spent 30 hours combing blogs and mm outlets from here to Asia and not a single one mentioned even the possiblity of a rate hike after the close, on a random Thursday, between FOMC meetings. 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:17 | Link to Comment BS Inc.
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The idea that this was telegraphed is comical to me.  In the last week I've probably spent 30 hours combing blogs and mm outlets from here to Asia and not a single one mentioned even the possiblity of a rate hike after the close, on a random Thursday, between FOMC meetings.

 

Oh, you and your need for "evidence" of an unsubstantiated assertion!

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:23 | Link to Comment Racer
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And see just look at those futures... now held steady and no doubt got big buy orders ready to bulldoze the market back up if they really have to, but why bother, they have staked the ground and dare any shorts try to cross... they will be skinned alive and murdered

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Double down
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Did they not try that at 1080 like three times?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:24 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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All the fuckin morons buying equities at these multiples, chasing the momentum, are going to get what's coming to them. We are at least 50% overvalued. This is going to be ugly.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 18:39 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Mo' money headed for Treasuries. The last auction might have been a little close for comfort.

Sheep are for shearing.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:46 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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Pigs get fattened

Hogs get slaughtered

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:08 | Link to Comment _Biggs_
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"Amarillo Slim, the greatist proposition gambler of all time held to his fathers maxim; You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin him only once."

Rounders.

Translation:  American wealth=slow bleed.  "Make the American people think they aren't loosing that much."  Heard today in the squid's board room.

This is going to interesting.  Just do "opposite George" and the war will be won vs. the cybers.

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