Fed To Remit A Record $78.4 Billion In Ponzi Cash To Treasury

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Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:48 | 864356 ewmayer
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You can be sure Bernanke and Geithner will spin this as "The Fed`s bond-purchasing programs have actually made money for the American taxpayer." Jut like the government raiding the SS and Medicare trust funds and replacing the cash with IOUs yielding some rock-bottom (but nonzero) percentage "makes money for the American taxpayer."

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:49 | 864675 Monkey Craig
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this country has gone from actually creating wealth to a system of vote buying and spinning news to the proles who don't give a shit except for fantasy football  

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 21:24 | 865842 Drachma
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Letter to Congress from Geithner Jan. 6, 2011:

"Never in our history has Congress failed to increase the debt limit when necessary. Failure to raise the limit would precipitate a default by the United States.”

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 21:25 | 865849 Drachma
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Letter to Congress from Geithner Jan. 6, 2011:

"Never in our history has Congress failed to increase the debt limit when necessary. Failure to raise the limit would precipitate a default by the United States.”

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 21:27 | 865853 Drachma
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Letter to Congress from Geithner Jan. 6, 2011:

"Never in our history has Congress failed to increase the debt limit when necessary. Failure to raise the limit would precipitate a default by the United States.”

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 16:27 | 864849 RockyRacoon
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"Unaudited."   How do we know they're not skimming?  Crooks.

Would you trust your broker's "unaudited" remittance... of $78B?

Especially if you knew your broker had a printing press.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 17:09 | 865018 mick_richfield
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Yes, I would.

And I would use it to buy argentum faster than you could say "Bunky Hunt". 

Then Tyler Durden would be workin for me, baby.




Oh, and ... Fed delenda est.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 21:24 | 865843 99er
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 21:26 | 865850 99er
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:51 | 864370 101 years and c...
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PONZI...BITCHEZ (yes, caps are needed).


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:59 | 864371 Quinvarius
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Credit cards and mortgages should work this way.

Why the Hell am I paying taxes for anything if the government gets paid to borow money?  Why don't they just borrow even more money so they can make a bigger profit?

What a kick in the ass for a guy who works for a living.  This is all so insulting, it is like Bernie Madoff telling you what he is really going to do with your money before you give it to him.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:01 | 864424 NotApplicable
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Why don't they just borrow even more money so they can make a bigger profit?

Oh, don't you worry, they will.

To infinity, and beyond!

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:51 | 864374 Rusty Shorts
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Bangladesh suspended trading at its main stock exchange in the capital Dhaka on Monday, and security officials used batons to disperse thousands of angry investors upset over a market plunge...


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:59 | 864413 Cleanclog
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Also in Bangladesh some food riots on higher prices.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:55 | 864390 LMAO
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The vastness of all these operations, the sums involved..... I have an increasingly hard time of getting my head around all these numbers.

This is beyond lunacy.



Mon, 01/10/2011 - 14:56 | 864404 greased up deaf guy
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translation: believe us when we tell you the ponzi is working.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:00 | 864415 pile of poop
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we're rich, bitches!

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:11 | 864466 LMAO
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We surely are dude (or dudess)

We are fooking less than $8 bill shy of the years 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 combined!

And.... even better news, it looks like we are in an UP and beyond trend.

YiiiiHaaaaa !


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:00 | 864422 Boilermaker
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REITs started their upward march at 10:00 sharp and are now positive...

RMZ and IYR are green.  Same action as yesterday...plunge...massive shove up...plunge...grind up to parity, close slightly positive.


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:23 | 864552 unwashedmass
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oh please, they have nothing on the gang pushing the peasants money into BAC. i just watched someone unload a few million shares -- and the price went up.

these people in Bangla Desh need to come over here and learn a few lessons on how to run a corrupt market.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 16:43 | 864922 Boilermaker
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The financials and the REITs are forever connected.  If the REITs are allowed to go tits-up then the banks are indisputably insolvent.

Thus, never price discovery actually occur. 

Today is really getting absurd and laughable.  This ridiculous ride has to end sometime.  I just wonder how many more quarters they have in their pocket to keep it going.

If you follow the REITs, it's just beyond awful how blatant it's become.  It's nothing more than a puppet act at this point.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 16:51 | 864955 Amish Hacker
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Maybe we should send some Americans over to Bangladesh to learn a few lessons on how to riot in the streets when markets get to the final stages of corruption.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:03 | 864432 tmosley
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Of course, we should remember that they refund what they have left AFTER EXPENSES.  Think about why Federal Reserve buildings are always so gigantic and beautiful.

Next year, we'll likely have one of these in the likeness of Bernanke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omLpwpRH6PA

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:04 | 864433 boricuadigm-shift
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"after providing for the costs of operations, payment of dividends, and the amount necessary to equate surplus with capital paid-in, are distributed to the U.S. Treasury"


Payments of dividends to whom?  Is it $1/share?, $10/share?  It is crazy not knowing what the heck these guys are doing with our precious fiat.

I wonder how much GS, JPM and the Rothchilds got.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:07 | 864442 knukles
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Issue a bost load of digital dinero at no cost (seigniorage) and buy any interest bearing instrument that pays, presto chango, makes a lotta moolah.

Be-Jesus Deux....

Watch the spin about how profitable and rosie-dosie everything is.  "It's raining money, Ben!  It's raining money!  What deficit?  See the more we QE, the better we'll all be!  You're a God-damned Genius, Ben!"

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:07 | 864445 buzzsaw99
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This looks like a crazy ponzi kickback scheme, but it can't be.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:07 | 864451 Ragnarok
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Hey, this should buy the debt ceiling vote a month or so.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:08 | 864457 primefool
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A. Treasury sells US Treasuries - Fed buys them. Treasury pays interest to the Fed. Fed returns the interest received back to Treasury. And we call that progress.

B. Treasury should just print money for itself. Free of interest and cut out the middle-man.



Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:11 | 864478 buzzsaw99
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That's just crazy talk. We need the fed to help us destroy, er, ourselves.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:12 | 864484 TideFighter
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Ho hum. The Treasury used to keep an offset account at the Fed with about 5-10 Billion in a Treasury Tax and Loan Account. Now, the Treasury just gives the Fed a bill to deposit in an unamed offset account. The balances then shot to 500 Billion. The Treasury's cash held at banks fell 98%. The Fed can just deposit a Treasury Bill back into this account. True Grit.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:14 | 864494 TideFighter
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The Fed as a PD. We need a bidding name for them.

Any ideas?


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:15 | 864500 THE DORK OF CORK
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What are yee guys bitching about..... the commercial banks cannot gain any income from such purchases - at least directly.

This is net positive for the US but negative for the rest of the world as commodities rise but with no interest dividend sweetener for mercantile countries.


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:17 | 864513 TideFighter
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The new Fed PD: "Snuffalufafed"

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:38 | 864627 Orly
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When real people notice and point it out, the Fed's books are nowhere to be seen.

The Fed as the invisible elephant.  Loves it!

I'm pretty sure Big Bird was one o'them tin-foil hatters anyways.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:30 | 864524 stewie
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Would somebody be kind enough to explain two points I don't get from this article:

1- "...and the amount necessary to equate surplus with capital paid-in".  What does this mean?

2- "the higher interest rates go, the greater the duration-adjusted loss on Fed holdings".  Is this because bond prices and interests move inverse?



So with monetized debt, the gvmt pays interests to itself on that debt, minus what the FED keeps. So it seems that whoever is getting dividends from the FED dividends are the ones getting the sweet deal in all this.  

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:59 | 864714 boricuadigm-shift
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BINGO!  This is THE QUESTION!  WHO THE F@#$ is getting these dividends?  I bet the Equity on the FED is relatively minuscule.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 16:20 | 864823 unununium
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You are making it too complicated.  T pays interest to all holders, including the Fed.  At year end, Fed remits all profits to T.  That is what this $70B is.

If you are looking for the scam, look elsewhere.  For example,

 - Inflation "tax"

 - PD's take a cut of all transactions

 - Fed's expenses accountable to nobody

...and the biggie

 - Fed transactions unaudited and accountable to nobody (for example, your basic Fedwire transfers that alter account balances)

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:21 | 864545 Winterland
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I've posed this question before:


Why would the UST even bother holding open auctions if they can borrow money for free from the Fed?

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:27 | 864573 stewie
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From what I understand:  Because the commercial banks wouldn't profit from such an arrangement.


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:32 | 864601 THE DORK OF CORK
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Its just to keep the illusion that when creating money or more accuretly currency it needs to be debt - this may be inflationary but it sure won't increase the debt much.


You could create a monetory system where all internal currency is created debt free by the goverment - using only Gold and silver to pay for outside goods and services (oil)

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:27 | 864571 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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"payment of dividends"

Who do the dividends go to of this private, secretive, parasitic organisation that plunders U.S. citizens labor earned wealth?

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:31 | 864585 stewie
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To the shareholders of each of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks.


the top eight stockholders of the New York Fed were, in order from largest to smallest as of 1983, Citibank, Chase Manhatten, Morgan Guaranty Trust, Chemical Bank, Manufacturers Hanover Trust, Bankers Trust Company, National Bank of North America, and the Bank of New York (Mullins, p. 179). Together, these banks owned about 63 percent of the New York Fed's outstanding stock. Mullins then showed that many of these banks are owned by about a dozen European banking organizations, mostly British, and most notably the Rothschild banking dynasty.


From: http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.html


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:35 | 864607 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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And who are these shareholders of these 12 banks/trusts? Would they be a small collective of individuals from wealthy families per chance?

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:44 | 864655 stewie
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Thousands of American banks.  To participate in the Federal Reserve System, national and state banks need to purchase shares of their regional fed bank.  


It seems that no individuals or organizations own any shares.



Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:56 | 864677 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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"national and state banks need to purchase shares of their regional fed bank"

Are these the same national and state banks that the FED bails out? So, the FED is bailing out it's own shareholders? How novel!

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:38 | 864632 A_MacLaren
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by Dr. Edward Flaherty, University of Charleston
Last updated July 18, 1997


82nd Annual Report, 1995. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. U.S. Government Printing Office.

Galbraith, John K. 1990. A Short History of Financial Euphoria. New York: Whittle Direct Books.

Kah, Gary. 1991. En Route to Global Occupation. Lafayette, La.: Huntington House.

Mullins, Eustace. 1983. Secrets of the Federal Reserve. Staunton, Va.: Bankers Research Institute.

Shauf, Thomas. 1992. The Federal Reserve. Streamwood, IL: FED-UP, Inc.

Woodward, G. Thomas. 1996. "Money and the Federal Reserve System: Myth and Reality." Congressional Research ServiceUnited States Code Annotated. 1994. U.S. Government Printing Office.


Last updated July 18, 1997

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:32 | 864602 A_MacLaren
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Its owners, of course. 

Who is that? 

That's on a need to know basis; and you don't need to know.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:36 | 864622 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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I do know, that's why i buy gold/silver (like they do) exchanging their confetti paper for real wealth.

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:30 | 864590 Buttcathead
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those folks sure can count high...

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