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The Fed's Nemesis: Exter's $2 Quadrillion Of "Liquidity"

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Another representation of what will likely become a prevalent topic in upcoming days: the Exter pyramid. When the system works, the various layers are in equilibrium. When the system is broken, like it is now, the Fed and all Central Banks try to refill the pyramid from the bottom-up with every single dollar they print. The current temporary calm is all Bernanke can hope to achieve before $2 quadrillion of liquidity collapses onto whatever truly tangible assets exist. They don't call it a pyramid scheme for nothing. And by assets, we are not talking about the crap that the Fed collateralizes against in its Discount Window and Primary Dealer Lending Facility taxpayer handouts. And for the goldbugs: $2 quadrillion (mythical liquidity) collapsing into $2 trillion (hard assets): can you spell $1 million an ounce of gold? (Because even S&P would likely rate any company with 1000x book (imaginary to real asset ratio) at most an AAA-...Maybe)

It is starting to get interesting.




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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:08 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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T.D.?? You be a sick fu**in machine.

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiii like it!!

 

"MARK IT ZERO, DUDE"

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Voluntary Exchange
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Fellow Humans:

 

I quote Hans-Hermann Hoppe:

“A state, in accordance with generally accepted terminology, is defined as a compulsory territorial monopolist of law and order (an ultimate decision maker). “

(“On the impossibility of Limited Government and the Prospects for a Second American Revolution”

http://mises.org/story/2874)

In those rare moments in history where a group of people have won their freedom and attempted to preserve their freedom for future times and generations they have resorted to various means to try to preserve it, as history records: monarchy, democracy, oligarchy, and so on up to the 18th century when a minority of Americans tried using a republic with strictly limited powers as granted in a constitution. Any such endeavor that grants a territorial monopoly of law and order must ultimately fail. (Failure in the sense that it must sooner or later cease to be efficacious in preserving life, liberty and property of the people in general and become a tool of plunder by the few against the many).

To be brief: the characteristics inherent in a monopoly of this sort ultimately create the conditions for that failure. The natural laws that govern human action will always lead to this failure, given the starting condition of monopoly that meets the above definition of a State. Its being as such a monopoly, over time, will naturally attract the minority of individuals who consider taking from others through force or fraud a preferred survival strategy. The early stages of their aggressions take on various forms of deception that have become more sophisticated though history, leading of late to central banks, fiat currency, grants of economic and business privileges and so on. In earlier ages religion was often used but that trick is wearing a little thin by now. Eventually as the non-parasitic class becomes aware of the nature of the deceptions and how it has been enslaved, (and eventually it always will happen given the human power of reason, learning and communication: hence the state's perpetual war against reason, learning, and communication), the system enters into its final stage that America is quickly approaching: overt despotism, and open aggression, being unable to exploit by deception any longer.

Many American Colonists reasoned that they needed some kind of minimalist state in order to survive in a world populated by other aggressive states, not at that time in history being aware of how a strictly voluntary system of exchanges amongst individuals and groups could arise and long endure to solve the primary needs of individual and group security and justice. As is always the case, along side such individuals were those who viewed aggression and deception as a preferred way of life and saw the forming of a state as their opportunity. The dynamic of these two forces, the subsequent struggles that ensued, in the formation of and subverting of the United States is a fascinating study, or as is often said: “ the rest is history”.

For those who want to understand how to form a viable, strictly voluntary contractual society may I suggest they study Ludwig Von Mises, Murray Rothbard, and Hans-Hermann Hoppe as a good starting point.

 

We are at a very exciting moment in human civilization. The State and its thus empowered despotism has never been so vulnerable in known human history. The understanding of how to end the “State” and what to replace it with is well developed. Once the appropriate manifestos/declarations ( I suggest “the Manifesto of the free” as a possible title) are properly formulated and globally communicated in a readily digestible form we could see the rapid, total collapse of State-ism similar to the mostly non-violent collapse of Communistic Eastern Europe and the Soviet block. Given an intact internet This could sweep the planet in a matter of weeks or months.

 

To put it simply, for we who wish to be FREE, the foundation has been staring us in the face since the beginning of civilization:

VOLUNTARY EXCHANGE.

 

To all the States of the world and their allies, let the proclamation sound: All those who initiate aggression or use fraud are declared illegitimate. Your system rests upon that which cannot and ought not to endure. You will no longer be obeyed or served. You who have lived by plunder will plunder us no more. Make restitution and go in peace, or face the consequences of open aggression against your moral and just teachers.

 

Friends, it is high time that we figuratively fight like “warrior poets” and win our freedom! Let those who stand with me against aggression openly declare to each other”

“I AM FREE!”.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:07 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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We are at a very exciting moment in human civilization. The State and its thus empowered despotism has never been so vulnerable in known human history. The understanding of how to end the “State” and what to replace it with is well developed. Once the appropriate manifestos/declarations ( I suggest “the Manifesto of the free” as a possible title) are properly formulated and globally communicated in a readily digestible form we could see the rapid, total collapse of State-ism similar to the mostly non-violent collapse of Communistic Eastern Europe and the Soviet block.

I agree completely.  The state is collapsing of its own weight.  The transition will be quite dangerous and advocates of liberty must be vigilant; oligarchy would naturally give way to dictatorship.  Liberty could be about to break out all over, and it is very exciting.  We are making history.  I allow myself to be encouraged by the willingess of the middle-aged middle class to demonstrate against their own destruction at the hands of the oligarchy.

Note to all: do not be content to witness history.  Make it.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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I AM FREE.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:14 | Link to Comment digalert
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Who says the system can't be fixed? A little flour, water and USD fiatzos, paper mache can fix it right up.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:34 | Link to Comment agrotera
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the picture says 55 trillion words...

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:47 | Link to Comment Thomas
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Not 2 trillion ounces; $2 trillion

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 02:25 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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$1000/oz * 1000 = $1,000,000/oz

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 05:55 | Link to Comment FreddyInBangkok
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manic irrational overshoot of course

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 09:27 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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If the investment remains stable but the value of the dollar declines, you lose. The problem with most 401k providers is they don't offer an investment option that can avoid a declining dollar, so in essence your screwed.

As was touched on here recently, even with the market going up the fact that the dollar has declined means the gains were partially offset by the loss of the dollar. This is what gold / PM's are saying.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 11/10/2009 - 09:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:46 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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GOLD BITCHES!!!

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 06:14 | Link to Comment Renfield
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Like I tell my sister, If you're gonna be a bitch, GOLD is the best kind to be. :-P

(PS: Who are you again?)

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 01:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:18 | Link to Comment Slewburger
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Dingggg!!!

It's mainline news.... IE Sludgereport..... its a suckers market now.

I'll trade you a case of Rem 223 rounds for a two bottles of Walker.

See... the apocalypse can be fun.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Right on...ROTFL!

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:10 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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You adolescents have watched "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" one too many times.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 14:14 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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Funny, I've been accussed of this so many times....never seen the move. I dont even know what the plot is other than extrapolating meaning from critisism...

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 02:15 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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The earth doesn't look like it stands a chance in that picture.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 02/13/2011 - 02:29 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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The Human scabies crawling around on the surface of the Earth MUST eventually migrate to the stars, there is no alternative.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 02:38 | Link to Comment Harbourcity
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I always wonder who the gold bugs think are going to buy the gold from them? 

Other gold bugs?

Can you say bubble?

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 02:53 | Link to Comment Burnbright
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It is really sad to see people who just dont get it, and who never will.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 03:18 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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don't be sad. be happy that there's people to take the other side of the trade. these people don't appreciate the advice anyway so let them be.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:55 | Link to Comment dnarby
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Then short it motherfvcker!

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:15 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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I always wonder who the gold bugs think are going to buy the gold from them?

Who was buying $147 oil?  Who was buying real estate in 2005?  Please come up with some better stuff.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 22:46 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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Pretending like money isn't money after all of the paper in your bank account is worthless is prettty stupid if you ask me. If you measure it against that you'll always think it's dumb to own and probably think it's "expensive" too.

I don't think it's smart to only buy precious metals. But owning them is much smarter than not owning them IMO.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Harbourcity
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I find it interesting that any time someone disagrees with Gold, the Goldbugs come out.  The reality is that a lot of other commodities have an actual use outside of peoples "perception" of it having value.

Does gold have any value outside of what people perceive its value is?

Who will be buying the gold from the gold bugs if the new reserve currency has nothing to do with gold.  We will not be going back to a gold standard.  Never happen.

 

 

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 02/12/2011 - 22:47 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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That's why I own silver. It stores value, buttt! it also kills vampires!

Sun, 02/13/2011 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Amagnonx
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Paper is in a bubble - people who trade houses and cars for pieces of paper can no longer be considered sane.

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 02:45 | Link to Comment jimmyjames
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I always wonder who the gold bugs think are going to buy the gold from them? 

Other gold bugs?

Can you say bubble?

 

I can say central banks--

It's already happening--

Slowly at first--then a quickening--

Then in a panic--

The other buyers will be squeezed shorts-

Also in a panic--

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 02:47 | Link to Comment ACjourneyman
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I'll put my gold up against any worthless paper currency anyday, I don't know what I will buy but I do know you won't be buying anything if you don't own any.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 03:02 | Link to Comment Mark Beck
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Maybe this is not the right place for this, but I am really interested to find out how the markets will respond to the health care passage through the house over the weekend. Market reaction and media spin. Should be fun.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:28 | Link to Comment snorkeler
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Thank you.

Anyone that thought the insurers and big pharma were not going to come out of this pus festival without a win is not paying very good attention.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 06:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 06:58 | Link to Comment duckweed
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If anyone is inclined to believe that any aspect of the nature of things is changed by such formulations, he is being extremely credulous about numbers. The real facts do not change, whatever numbers we give them. We are living in an age that is dominated by setting sun vision. We should be looking for a new dawn where what we create that is real and tangible is the measure of a man or woman. What we add to society in a real, down to earth exchange between two or more human beings, where our hands actually touch, and we can see, hear, feel, smell and taste the sweat of one anothers labor, that might be something worth living and dying for.

Goldman and the FED, this government and all it's proxies, anyone who aids and abbets them, are not worth another single moment of our time. Do not labor for them. It is time to quit participating in the Lie. Quit your job, stop payment on all your bills, usury notes and help your neighbor do the same. Together we can end this farce once and for all.

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 16:42 | Link to Comment duckweed
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It is done.

Sun, 02/13/2011 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Amagnonx
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Also done - quit, stopped, exited.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 07:36 | Link to Comment TumblingDice
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I do have a bone to pick with this representation though. Misc. Assetts seems to be misplaced on this pyramid. If those misc assets refer to the things of utility then they are the backbone of this pyramid; it's mirror image. If we are talking about money it is easy to build a liquidity pyramid. It is nice and inverse. A representation of assets, as things, usually of utility, that actrually matter, that make up our world, as mr duckweed says above has no shape. A representation of society is a regular pyramid, as our trusty dollar bill implies, and the shape of the future is yet to be determined, so any of those shapes are subject to change. Keep at it.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Slewburger
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I agree some assets are almost as good as gold.

Here's another one...

If the derivatives (blue) shrink and the "area" of the pyramid stays constant, should the broad & power currency illusions (yellow & green) grow?

After all we would hate for the pyramid to collapse.

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:28 | Link to Comment BennyBoy
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The "Audit The FED" bill was made toothless, so we have no nemisis.

Isn't that right, Lloyd?

BB

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 09:40 | Link to Comment lookma
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When it comes to protecting your wealth from the hugry collective and the ravenous crooks, you make it obvious why gold > land.   The G owns the land.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 09:54 | Link to Comment callistenes
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Uhh look at Zimbabwe,

Title: Gold for Bread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ubJp6rmUYM

1/10 gram of gold per loaf of bread

about $3.50 per loaf as of just now.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:54 | Link to Comment dnarby
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No, that's placer gold (80-90%) and in granular form, so it trades at a discount to bullion.

The price is ~$2.50 a loaf.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:36 | Link to Comment blindfaith
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WOA!!!  hey folks, don't you realize that if such an event should ( God Forbid) happen, you had better be on a spaceship where the mobs can't get at you.  If such a thing should happen there would be a world wide mob scene...where do you, pro or con gold folks, think you can hid your butts let along your wealth? EVERYTHING would STOP, there would be no food to buy with the gold in the trunk of your car.   This in NOT a football game or a TV show, yet I read over and over this " I am detatched" attitude from the mess.  Can goods, folks, can goods...I'll sell ya can of beans for an ounce of gold...see how fast you run out of the stuff, and I'll still have can goods.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:44 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 10:59 | Link to Comment dnarby
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That's retarded.  I have plenty of farmer friends who will gladly sell 16oz of beans for 0.1 oz of silver.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:47 | Link to Comment ED
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And when your can-opener breaks and your little gold-free neck of the woods finds itself unable to barter free and fast enough to replace it, you'll be bashing the crap out of those cans with rocks in order to feast on the contents.

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 13:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sun, 02/13/2011 - 09:10 | Link to Comment Amagnonx
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Food is good - so is gold, so is farmland - so are horses, cows and chickens - collect the set.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:59 | Link to Comment Winisk
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This weekend's commentary has been heart warming and terrifying at once. It has transcended money and politics and is veering toward philosophy. Great stuff! It keeps me sane.

I understand the merits of gold. Number one being it is finite. I own some. But I have to agree with Blindfaith on this one. Gold may very well be the best store of wealth there is but wealth is a rather abstract concept itself. Wealth represents access to resources in the future. Who the hell knows what the world will look like or value years from now. I do know that power trumps money every time.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 09:49 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:00 | Link to Comment dnarby
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Clearly the captcha has to be cranked up...

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 22:55 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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Let the man speak. He can "do" math.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 02/12/2011 - 22:58 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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Can we disable anonymous comments man? This shit's pretty ridiculous... I get that it's the internet and all but this is a community. Not a bunch of guys with guns who can't wait for hyperinflation so they can go in the streets and start shooting shit.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Lndmvr
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I take care of a family member (94) who owns 160 acres of farmland in Iowa. We talk about todays events and I tell him that he is one of the smartest men I know. he says he saw the homeless and hungry in the depression and knew it would come again. I can hunt and fish there and if his kids don't sell out I can live there through this coming mess. The beans and corn will at least pay the taxes if a market survives. And for those of you who understand what the " ditch " is, any govt people who come by will also have a place to sleep.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:07 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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All this waiting for the 'end times' yet, tomorrow is always tomorrow.

I don't know when ZH became a gold- bug site, I yearn for the days of HFT ...

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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false. keeping track of all assets is critical when one evaluates whatever is left of capital markets and the Fed's and the administration's response in "stimulating" them. After all, most of what is done on ZH is constant brainstorming.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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+100

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Slewburger
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+1

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:49 | Link to Comment asteroid
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Tyler,

The term "pyramid scheme" generally refers to a pyramid with its long base along the bottom.  People entering the pyramid feed those at the top drawing benefits.

Your pyramid is inverted, and top-heavy (granted), and prone to toppling or to collapse.  Indeed, the process has already started and gov't is essentially powerless to reverse it.

The process of collapsing $2Q in paper onto real assets (1/1000th value) is essentially a deflationary process, not an inflationary one, yet if I read you correctly, you are implying an inflationary expectation.

If we were talking about $2T in assets then perhaps we could talk about an inflationary outcome, but the prospects of $2Q collapsing is not one where a gov't printing press has the capacity to produce enough inflation to reflate the system.

One of the things inflationists may be missing is that we live in an age of intentional monetary insufficiency.  Reserve requirements have been cut to nearly zero for many years.  Most reserves are probably held at banks, and are limited to vault cash on hand.

A national run on banks would quickly deplete actual cash reserves, and the federal banking system would have to ration cash by limiting withdrawals.  In America?  Sure--it's only a matter of time.

If you want to know what outcome the system is expecting, take notice of their leverage ratios.  Higer leverage ratios imply we are heading for collapse across the board.

Cordially,

 

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Harbourcity
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This I agree with but Fiat currency is meant to crash.  It is based on infinite expansion which obviously has to end at some point.

My problem with gold is that like any form of speculation, it is based on perceived value.  The gold bubble doesn't exist now but those who go into gold (not necessarily a bad decision) need to plan the bubble and therefore plan for an exit strategy as it will become a speculative trend and thereby eventually pop. 

NOTHING in life is a universal truth, even gold.  With any "investment" you need to plan for who is going to buy it so you can "realize" the gain. Sometimes its better to sell before the peak if when it hits the peak there are no buyers left.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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It is a mega-deflationary depression in terms of Gold, not the dollar.'nuf said.

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 16:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 11/09/2009 - 15:17 | Link to Comment JamesBrrando
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its killing time

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:29 | Link to Comment i-m a dinner jacket
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Voluntary Exchange, nice section about attempts to preserve freedoms in a republic with limited government, but history records plenty of predecessors. The American case isn't helped by pretensions to uniqueness. Venice, Holland, and a host of ancient Mediterranean city states had limited governments and enshrined rights for citizens.

 

In the modern world, the Swiss Confederation is probably the most interesting and thorough-going republic of limited powers, and a couple of centuries older than the US.

 

Just saying....

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 02/13/2011 - 02:46 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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What, never heard of anyone with a 10-carton a day habit?

Mon, 11/09/2009 - 19:11 | Link to Comment time123
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May be hard assets like houses are actually worth much more than what the market prices them right now. Time to buy real estate?

time123

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Sun, 02/13/2011 - 23:07 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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Buy gold, oil (USO) and palladium and you will most likely protect your savings from the devastation of inflation.

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