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Fire Breaks Out At Fukushima Reactor 4

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Time to upgrade Fukushima from 7 to 7¼? From Reuters: "A fire broke out at Japan's crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, operator Tokyo Electric and Power (TEPCO) said on Tuesday, although flames and smoke were no longer visible. A worker saw fire at a building near the No.4 reactor at around 6:38 a.m. (21:38 GMT) and a fire fighting unit of the Self Defence Forces was sent to fight the blaze, a TEPCO spokesman said. "Flames and smoke are no longer visible but we are awaiting further details regarding whether the fire has been extinguished completely," he said. Japan has been battling to bring under control the plant damaged severely by last month's devastating earthquake and tsunami."

Update: TEPCO says fire out at battery storage bldg near Fukushim-1 reactors 1-4. No effect to reactors, water cooling continues. Then again this does come from TEPCO where every day is opposite day.

And an update from Kyodo, which surprisingly has yet another version of (sur)reality.

A fire broke out at the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear plant in
northeastern Japan Tuesday morning, but was soon extinguished, the plant
operator said.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said the fire occurred at the sampling
building near a water outlet at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power
plant's No.4 reactor and was spotted by a worker.

There was no change in the levels of radiation around the reactor, the utility known as TEPCO added.

The nuclear plant was crippled after a mega quake and tsunami hit northeastern Japan on March 11.

Watch the latest from NHK here.

 

 


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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:58 | Link to Comment Veekay23
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TEPCO says small fire near Fukushima reactor was extinguished quickly - AP

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:21 | Link to Comment LowProfile
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TEPCO has said quite a few things over the past weeks.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:51 | Link to Comment Harmonious_Diss...
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I wonder if the fire is related to this, recorded earlier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgooTL9hEc0&feature=player_embedded

 

Nuetron Beams, Bitchez?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:18 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Another earthquake:

MAP  6.2   2011/04/11 23:08:16    35.406    140.542  13.1   NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:02 | Link to Comment American idle
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>>Insert Dante quote here<<

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:05 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.
Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore:
fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapienza e 'l primo amore.
Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create
se non etterne, e io etterno duro.
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate

bitchez

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:28 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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Che minchia hai detto?! 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:35 | Link to Comment Theta_Burn
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"Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.

Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore;
fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapïenza e 'l primo amore.

Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create
se non etterne, e io etterno duro.
***Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate***"

"Through me the way into the suffering city,
Through me the way to the eternal pain,
Through me the way that runs among the lost.

Justice urged on my high artificer;
My maker was divine authority,
The highest wisdom, and the primal love.

Before me nothing but eternal things were made,
And I endure eternally.
Abandon every hope, ye who enter here."

(transl. Longfellow) AND Appropriate

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:43 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Chi dà una cacca?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:36 | Link to Comment duckduckMOOSE
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Watashi no kusodikku no mesu inu o suu

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:19 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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Was zur Hölle...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:39 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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lol

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:30 | Link to Comment Theta_Burn
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lets lighten the mood a bit Bob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKYHRgjyCqI

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:05 | Link to Comment T-888
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I say we nuke the entire site from orbit....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Mae Kadoodie
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How would you like to be the poor bastards that have to go do the dirty work?  If it were me i'd tell my boss, "no, you go put the fucking fire out"!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Hansel
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Especially considering the pay,

From Bloomberg,

"A week before becoming ground zero for the world’s biggest nuclear crisis since 1986, the Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant offered $11 an hour for full-time maintenance work..."

TEPCO didn't care about safety.  They cared about money.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:58 | Link to Comment ml8ml8
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They've upped the pay quite a bit, at least at the senior technicial level.  This is a couple of weeks old.  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-wanted-u-workers-crippled-japan-nuke-...

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Organic Matter
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It's the only way to be sure.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:30 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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Ho-ho-hold on, hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Organic Matter
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You know, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see zero hedge f'ng each other over for a goddamn percentage.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:29 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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The radiation mostly comes out at night. Mostly.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Wasn't 4 the better of the lot?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:41 | Link to Comment avonaltendorf
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Yes. #4 reactor cold. Spent fuel easy to hose down.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:07 | Link to Comment Spalding_Smailes
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Live video feed - www.tepco.co

 


Updated images ten minute lag ....


 pointscope

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:08 | Link to Comment LostWages
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Was this before or after the 6.6 aftershock?

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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If you are **** S T I L L **** in Tokyo, you @$@$^#$($# moron

G

T

F

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*N*O*W*...as in YESTERDAY

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:07 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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Battery storage, eh? That means the workers have to deal with fuming sulfuric acid. Real nasty business when that particular acid is heated.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 02:59 | Link to Comment Drag Racer
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I'm thinking more of hydrogen gas or chlorine gas if they were hit with seawater

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:10 | Link to Comment Spalding_Smailes
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MINSK, Belarus — An explosion has ripped through a subway station in the center of the Belarusian capital, severely wounding at least a dozen people and sending clouds of smoke pouring into the street.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene Monday evening saw several inert people being carried out of the station, some with heavy injuries including at least one with missing legs.

 www.bostonherald.com

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:51 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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those former Soviet states can never catch a break... 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:10 | Link to Comment bud-wiser
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Sometimes, I really wish we could do the thumbs up thing. As in, for Yes We Can, But.

I couldn't have said it better.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment PY-129-20
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OT: About the "terror act" in Belarus today

Well, some blogger call this a false flag operation to save Lukashenko's position. What I found more interesting - the amount of Gold has increased fivefold since the beginning of the year, because inflation is running amok in Belarus and people are tired of Lukashenko - according to German magazine "Der Spiegel".

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:11 | Link to Comment hambone
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Not to worry - check the headline on CNBC...

Nuclear Power Fears at New Heights Despite Safety, Viability

"The Fukushima meltdown may mark a high point in anti-nuclear hysteria," says one analyst. "As a result, investors should not treat nuclear-related stocks as if they were radioactive."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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I would like to know, how long do the spent fuel rods have to be stored before they are rendered harmless? There will be an extended oversight maintenance program to keep them cool I imagine, so what is the plan?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:52 | Link to Comment avonaltendorf
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Two answers. In normal operation, after cooling a couple years they can be put in dry casks. At Fukushima, never. Spent fuel rods have burned, melted, been buried under collapsed cranes and twisted wreckage. They don't exist as "fuel rods" anymore. The plan is to tear off some of the wreckage with remote control heavy equipment to get a look at the damage with remote control helicopter cameras. This has as much chance of succeeding as a Chinese fire drill.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:26 | Link to Comment DoctoRx
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www.fairewinds.com has a graphic demonstration on Vimeo from April 10 about how the zircalloy acts under intense heat with water around.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:29 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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Correcting some typos in that quotation...

"The Fukushima meltdown may mark a high point in anti-nuclear hysteria.  On the other hand, it may also mark the beginning of a massive ecological disaster, war in east Asia, widespread famine, and the worst dieback of our species since the Toba Supereruption.  Of course the latter case would be more difficult to hedge."

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:00 | Link to Comment MSimon
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BTFD bitchez

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 09:31 | Link to Comment Reptil
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An analyst from Euro Pacific Capital. I bet they invested heavily in in it. hahaha

At some point taking a loss is inevitable. The problem is, that accepting the need for new investments, and revaluation of the risk (which is not being done right now), will mean the end of the nuclear industry. (It's just too expensive to insure.) They (we) have a safety and waste disposal problem. Any change and admission of that problem will result in plummetting of market value. So, that's not being done. The only ones really working on it are the germans, and behind the scenes, the canadians. (A little bird told me that. ;-)

For the rest... let's hope nothing bad happens in the next eh 10 years?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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It sure was suppoosed to be the better of the 4 and in some instances the 6.  Fires just don't up and happen.  It could be 3 possibilities, one is that something is getting hot enough to set off fires in the building (burned through core giving off heat that is hot enough to spotaneously start fire).  Two, the fire wasn't in the place they said but in the holding pool and it's starting to burn.  And three, radiation is degrading the electronics and circuitry of the building and the systems may have did a right when they should have done a left in operations.  Fire or no fire, they don't have control of the situation not by a long shot.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:22 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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If the fire was in a battery storage building, and the charge control device (electronics) failed, then the batteries could have easily overheated and exploded. Also, the heated sulfuric acid would have likely ignited any flammable materials in the vicinity.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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 I just listened to NHK's coverage of the level 7 announcement. The Japanese government now openly admits that radiation release has been "Massive", "Dangerous to Human Health", "Wide Spread" and "Ongoing".

Now in and of itself, this is daming enough. What is scary though is that the government offered no evidence or hope that containment of any kind was imminent.

In short, this event can not even be shoved under the rug by the most pro nuclear power people out there, such as Karl Denninger.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:39 | Link to Comment chunga
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That's a better than expected "green shoot".

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:20 | Link to Comment squexx
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Yahoo!!! That should be good for at least 5% into the green on both the NIKKEI and DOW today!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:26 | Link to Comment trav7777
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I'm amazed more shit hasn't caught fire there

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:12 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Truly a miracle from god. Thanks for pointing that out...

BTW ever get that live footage where shit isn't on fire?

...no you didn't because you don't know if other shit is on fire, or if neutron beams are shooting out of another reactor, or anything.

That whole area could be like a neutron beam laser light show and you would have no idea unless TEPCO releases that info (which they wouldn't)

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:34 | Link to Comment trav7777
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sure it could be...but I am not inclined to assume it is in the absence of evidence.  Would I have evacuated already?  Hell yes, once my own geiger counter started going off

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:03 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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That really has been my thesis in our long and communal diatribe.

You won't get the evidence. I mean you will eventually, as you can't hide it forever, but there is no real way of knowing what is going on there because the evidence is being suppressed. The only people close enough to the event aren't going to release information unless they absolutely have to, and the only reason they will release "something" is because they have no other choice.

I think we can both agree that right now the situation is not under control. I don't see how they can put the situation in control. I personaly can only see it getting worse.

In my view this is worse than Chernobyl because of its scope. I mean....6 reactors need to be put under control, and that is incredible to think about considering the situation they are in.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:35 | Link to Comment PolishHammer
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fires you can see are the least of their problems

 

it's the stuff nobody can see, deep in the bowels...radioactive magma going critical every now and then

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:35 | Link to Comment bud-wiser
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Just a moment of silence for those poor heroes who are struggling, on scene, against who-knows-what to buy time for their families, friends, neighbors, and strangers...

I wish their stories were public, because these are the heroics that make us human.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:30 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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Absolutely right.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:38 | Link to Comment djsmps
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Jesus, another major aftershock near Fukushima. Power lost at reactors 1,2 and 3.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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linky?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:41 | Link to Comment chump666
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TEPCO are criminals, their mis-handling of this and cover up via Japan Gov media sources =   Astounding.  C'mon Japanese citizens where is your samurai spirit?

Some heads gotta roll

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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Weren't they already spraying water on it?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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maybe we need to send douchinger over there to pick up some of those blue light specials.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment max2205
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Like if Japan was not an island which it is, then how is the surrounding seas contamination vary from a solely land based event. Over and out.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:08 | Link to Comment avonaltendorf
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All nuclear power plants are sited on rivers and seaside because they need a lot of cold water to make the condenser cycle work. Reactor makes steam, turns a turbine to make electricity, then water has to be cooled and returned to reactor cold to keep it from like blowing up. The basic problem at Fukushima is kaput cooling, broken pipes, leaking molten uranium and plutonium sending radioactive steam into the air and threatening to explode every so often. Sea contamination is caused by spraying water over the hot spent fuel and pumping more water into the broken plumbing to keep the reactors cool (sort of). All this irradiated water runs downhill into the ocean, carrying bits of radioactive particles.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:48 | Link to Comment web bot
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Why don't they just get a bunch of #uckin clowns, hand puppets or the 3 stooges to take over operations... if this wasn't such a tragedy en masse, it would be a comedy.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:50 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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dahr jamail is going to be on rense tonight. should be interesting for any of you that care to listen to this.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:58 | Link to Comment SgtSchultz
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Any speculation as to a timeline for a final endgame for this?  How it will all end?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:01 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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Shouldn't take long, they've already made the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeJ6Cftc-E8

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:11 | Link to Comment SgtSchultz
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So as the island is reclaimed by the earth, any radiation released is still the healthy kind?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:17 | Link to Comment avonaltendorf
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Months of peril until corium lava oozes into the sea or the flooded basements and cools or explodes. Years to get control of the spent fuel and dismantle reactor buildings. Decades to haul it all away and/or bury with concrete in situ. 100 km2 permanent exclusion zone.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:16 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Nightly News Hour on PBS had a special tonight about over 7,500 (yes, thousand) California public schools that violated the Fielding act from the mid 1930's which had enacted building codes for earthquake safety.

Many schools built or modified since then skirted the safety laws, either in planning or in construction.

As if California had any money to rebuild schools.

Hey, bond issue!  Just get GS to sell it...overseas...or to pension funds, and make sure you tie it in with liability insurance too, call it:  

"Default Earthquake Assignated Dead Kids Insurance Debt Stratified Bond Swaps or DEADKIDSBS "

Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Organic Matter
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This is like watching each and every rivet pop on the Titanic in super-slow-360 motion. We only have 875 more rivets to go before this festering beast goes under. This is painful to watch, the situation could be pretty much described as:

Totally F'n Out of Control

Then again the Japanese don't appear too concerned about any of this, maybe volunteers are hard to come by these days. I want a live 24 hour feed like the BP Goat F down in the Gulf. I want to be able to tell my grandchildren that:

" I have seen the the famous blue light off the shores of Fukishima, I've seen things you wouldn't believe".

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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. . . Time to die.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:32 | Link to Comment blindman
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don't blame the responders.  no one can fix this.

it is a case of failure, by design.  the blame can only

go to the original seed.  the origin of the idea.  the

the first shovel of earth removed in confidence.  it was

all present then.  some saw it, the authority denied it.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:14 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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Yes, but "it's only a tiny fire."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:21 | Link to Comment franzpick
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...the government offered no evidence or hope that containment of any kind was imminent.

Ten or so days ago Tepco and the gov't. of Japan paid $6 plus MIL for the purchase and delivery of 4 giant Putzmeister concrete/water crane pumps, 2 of which arrived in Tokyo Saturday aboard 2 Soviet Antonov 225 transports from Atlanta and Los Angeles, and 2 previously re-routed to the reactor area aboard  barges from Viet Nam, for the announced purpose of cooling the necessary reactor components.

The pump owners were paid in advance because these remote-controlled metallic cranes have one-way tickets to the Fukushima rescue site where they will quickly be contaminated and ultimately abandoned on site or to nearby nuclear boneyards such as exist around Chernobyl for aircraft, trucks and ships.

For some reason the authorities have avoided announcing the details of reactor cooling and then entombing with concrete, tin and boric chemicals as part of a planned, coordinated containment, perhaps planning to announce each step as a "new" advance, first of cooling, then later the final "advance" of entombment.

I suspect they have and are enacting a containment plan, but are refusing to declare it and describe the costly arrangements and delivery plans made, and the containment details.

Maybe that's good political and corporate spin - it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you look playing the game - but history is usually written by the victors, not the failing, defeated corporate and state managers.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:39 | Link to Comment moneymutt
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agreed.....not that I agree with TEPCO, but they have dripped out info in a way that has made people regard situation with less urgency....now they say its a seven, but they knew it was all along, but if week one they say seven, when nuke experts saying it was under control, then people would have freaked even more than they did.

 

Given general population seems to have appropriate fear of radiation, I guess in terms of all public health hazards this one that is least worst to downplay...but I'm really annoyed they aren't doing more, especially international scientiests to get a handle on where the radiation is spreading...but then again they probably are and just not telling us

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:11 | Link to Comment franzpick
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Like what you might try to convey to anxious frogs increasingly uncomfortable in the slowly rising temperature of a pot of water on it's way to boiling, to prevent them from making any unauthorized leaps to safety:  "It's OK, Don't Jump Out".

Or what you would do to prevent increasingly irradiated residents from arriving at a local-sourced consensus to make a mass exodus out of the deteriorating area.

Or how you might lie about and disguise collapsing residential home prices so as to prevent additional mortgage default, walk-aways and cascading, further home price collapse.

Listening to the state and media spin is, first, toxic, then deadly.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:29 | Link to Comment franzpick
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JUNK in the road ahead:  Step Over It.

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Tue, 04/12/2011 - 03:40 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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I really am tired of this particular chink.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Madhouse
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Tepco...its a madhouse.  Japanese are insane. They are so worried about "losing face" yet they allow these idiots to keep telling the world lies ?  WTF ?  Obama, again, missing in action. Where is the concrete you blithering idiot ? Food supply, cancer, children, $1 trillion defense budget...Hell-fucking-lo !!  Anyone ?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:51 | Link to Comment qmhedging
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BOJ will pour more money in.Another positive sign.Liquidity can absorb radiation

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:11 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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All I wanted was an hourly radioisotope mass fractionation

Just one hourly radioisotope mass fractionation

But they wouldn't give it to me

They wouldn't give it to me

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 07:40 | Link to Comment Cui Bono
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you'll probably get hit by a bus anyway.......

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 11:35 | Link to Comment serotonindumptruck
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You know what Jim? You are one kool dood. Not only are you a brilliant engineer, you're also a hardcorepunk rocker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZRuiEBjEwo

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:32 | Link to Comment parangwarrior
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NEWS ADVISORY: Radiation leak may exceed amount in Chernobyl accident: TEPCONote

[link to english.kyodonews.jp]

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:21 | Link to Comment constanceplumtree
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I like how they prefaced it  URGENT .  This from TEPCO itself.  What is going on

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:30 | Link to Comment parangwarrior
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several posters at ATS and GLP are calculating its highly possible it will exceed chernobyll

excerpt from ATS:-

they said releases of 10,000 TBq / hr for several hours...(knowing Tepco it was many hours)

1 TBq ~ 27 curies
270,000 curies/hr

just 8 hours would be 2,160,000 curies (somebody check my math to make sure)

most reports say Chernobyl was 50 million curies total

Cesium-137 levels of 3.26 million becquerels per square meter 40 kilometers northwest of the Fukushima plant

compare to most reports of Chernobyl 550,000 becquerels per square meter of Cesium-137

 

is the calculation legit??

 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:45 | Link to Comment TheJudge2012
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About two monts ago Aol ran an article about a radiation pill (Ex-Rad) that prevents and repairs genetic damage. It's by a private co and the govt has become active in it. It is not available to the public, but I'm sure the big shots that run world politics will get it. I was also reading about different technology for cleaning up radioactive elements on the dailypaul.com, but here again I'm sure it won't be put to use till after a significant death toll of the commoners occurs. How convenient.

Link to Drudge about Ex-Rad:

http://www.drudge.com/news/142287/ex-rad-us-militarys-radiation-wonder

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment TheJudge2012
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Actually I'm not sure if a private co was involved in it and the govt took control.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Slin
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I heard the huge band of rain in the middle of the country is full of radiation.  It is coming to the east coast.  100x times legal limit measured in rainfall in Iowa.  I just don't know what to believe.  Is it possible all of this was up the atomsphere above us, and now will dump?  Long distance to ravel from Japan, I just don't know.  But I will not be out in the rain the next few days. 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Abandon In Place
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The next real deadline for Fukushima really is the start of typhoon season. If they don't have the entire site encapsulated by the first big blow there is no telling how far radioactive debris will be spread. Even a good thunderstorm would be a real problem.

Short of sacrificing the human workforce to deconstruct this disaster, there should be an international competetion for kluging together GIANT teleoperated robot deconstruction and heavy hauling machinery. Every ounce of lead and every surplus shipping container in the world should be directed to Fukushima. Use the robots to disassemble the wrecked units, stuff everything into steel containers, pile like Lego Blocks untill the entire site is enclosed, weld together. Decorate as desired. Pray some more...

There should also be another competition to design the sarcophogus that will be on this site for the rest of human history. Might I suggest the curtain walls be made from borated ceramic with a very heavily leaded glaze.

If they make it pretty enough it could become a future tourist draw.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:24 | Link to Comment constanceplumtree
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hmmm.  what happened to the resin spraying that was sposed to "keep the dust down"?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:25 | Link to Comment vxpatel
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Wow, i was worried until TEPCO said they had everything under control.

 

Praise the lord.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:52 | Link to Comment intric8
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Hong Kong officials see no danger with radiation levels until their in-air readings of cs-137 hit 2480 Bq/m3.  These guys are already high on it.  http://falloutphilippines.blogspot.com

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:13 | Link to Comment parangwarrior
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unbelievable, another strong quake hitting Fukushima prefecture

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:55 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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You gotta wonder, are these earthquakes abnormal or are we just seeing more because we're paying attention to Japan...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 02:03 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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I think normal is being redefined ...not that it ever had a definition you could nail down.  But, I have been watching earthquake patterns daily for over two years and what we're seeing isn't at all typical of recent activity.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 02:21 | Link to Comment Broker NotBroke
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Fascinating. Wonder why earth is so upset these days...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 03:54 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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There are several fascinating spots around lately.  Four of them are spots where usually small earthquakes are happening often and happening right in the exact same place.

One of those spots is near Geyserville in northern California, one just off the Oregon coast, one at the mouth of the Gulf of Aden and one just north of Little Rock Arkansas. An incredible number of these "stacked" earthquakes occur at ten kilometers depth.

The area that has been most fascinating to me is the California/Mexico border between the northern tip of the Gulf of California and the Salton Sea.  There was  a 7.2 mag quake southwest of Mexicali on Easter Sunday last year and that narrow strip of land from the gulf northward to the Salton Sea rang like  a bell for about 10 1/2 months.  There were numerous 2.5 to 4 mag quakes a day until about six weeks ago.  Over about three days the staccato drumbeat of little quakes tapered down to almost nothing and has since picked back up very slightly.

Haiti's 7.1 didn't do that.  Neither did the big 8 pointers off Chile.  Nor the larger quakes around Indonesia.  Those big ones threw off a few significant aftershocks periodically, but never that steady drumbeat of tremblors.  Nothing I've seen since has done that...until now.

Since the 7.1 foreshock that hit a few days before the big 9.0 there's been a steady drumbeat of 2.5 to 5.9 quakes, many per day, all up and down the coast of Honshu from Tokyo north to Sendai.  And of course we've seen a number of significant aftershocks 6 and larger as well.

Since the big one they've been getting progressively shallower and moving westward toward the shoreline and now appear to be moving onshore.

I don't know if the Mexicali example is going to be repeated here in Japan, but if it is, this level of activity could continue for a very long time.

The Mexicali area is still very interesting to me because the Salton Sea and most of the Imperial Valley is well below sea level.  There is a very small area of land between the Imperial Valley and the Gulf and the lowest portions never rise higher than 15 meters above sea level.  If you squint your eyes just right and hold your tongue just so, it's not difficult to see the Imperial Valley becoming a new inland sea somewhere down the road.

Just a few disconnected, unscientific, anecdotal observations :)

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 02:11 | Link to Comment parangwarrior
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gotta refer to my "road to armageddon" manual..lets see

E for earthquake..hmmmm

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:59 | Link to Comment Stormdancer
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Yup....nuke site evacuated again.  But they reassure us nothing has changed at the plant :)

6.0 centered approx 55 km SW of the power plant.  These last three have been quite shallow...10km, 13.6km and 10.6km.

Cryptome has posted some new pics @ http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp6/daiichi-photos6.htm which show the Putzmeister still standing strong.  I'm surprised...but whoop..there it is.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 02:00 | Link to Comment frontierland
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This sucker has been a 7 since the Reactors started exploding.  In 25 years, this massive coverup will be revealed as hundreds of thousands of cancer stricken die all over the New World...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 05:22 | Link to Comment ivars
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Short summary with data and table why Fukushima moved into 7 and how 10% of Chernobyl has been calculated. Actually, Cs-137 with 30 years half life is has been already leaked at amounts =20% of Chernobyl total.

 

http://www.saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=2657&start=300#p31744

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 06:28 | Link to Comment unnormal
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check this out - EU has increased limits of radiation of imported food - the increase is 10-fold!

http://www.newsecho.de/gesellschaft/panorama/6vIIz8vx6Sk/informationspolitik_kritisiert

(article is in german so you if U don't know the language use a translator)

(read at dwagrosze.blogspot.com)

 

 

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 07:09 | Link to Comment reload
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http://www.surf-forecast.com/maps/Japan/wind/120

Wind forcast for sunday through to next tuesday: Not good.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 11:39 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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Don't link to that link for NHK.  Link here for headline videos and live:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!