Fire Breaks Out At Fukushima Reactor 4

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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:58 | 1159696 Veekay23
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TEPCO says small fire near Fukushima reactor was extinguished quickly - AP

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:21 | 1159781 LowProfile
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TEPCO has said quite a few things over the past weeks.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:51 | 1160274 Harmonious_Diss...
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I wonder if the fire is related to this, recorded earlier:


Nuetron Beams, Bitchez?

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:18 | 1160522 goldfish1
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Another earthquake:

MAP  6.2   2011/04/11 23:08:16    35.406    140.542  13.1   NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:02 | 1159703 American idle
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>>Insert Dante quote here<<

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:05 | 1159709 bob_dabolina
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Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.
Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore:
fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapienza e 'l primo amore.
Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create
se non etterne, e io etterno duro.
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:28 | 1159800 thatthingcanfly
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Che minchia hai detto?! 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:35 | 1159824 Theta_Burn
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"Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.

Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore;
fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapïenza e 'l primo amore.

Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create
se non etterne, e io etterno duro.
***Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate***"

"Through me the way into the suffering city,
Through me the way to the eternal pain,
Through me the way that runs among the lost.

Justice urged on my high artificer;
My maker was divine authority,
The highest wisdom, and the primal love.

Before me nothing but eternal things were made,
And I endure eternally.
Abandon every hope, ye who enter here."

(transl. Longfellow) AND Appropriate

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:43 | 1159847 bob_dabolina
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Chi dà una cacca?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:36 | 1160136 duckduckMOOSE
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Watashi no kusodikku no mesu inu o suu

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:19 | 1160361 PY-129-20
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Was zur Hölle...

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:39 | 1160565 bob_dabolina
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:30 | 1159810 Theta_Burn
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lets lighten the mood a bit Bob

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:05 | 1159712 T-888
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I say we nuke the entire site from orbit....

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:17 | 1159762 Mae Kadoodie
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How would you like to be the poor bastards that have to go do the dirty work?  If it were me i'd tell my boss, "no, you go put the fucking fire out"!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:20 | 1159778 Hansel
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Especially considering the pay,

From Bloomberg,

"A week before becoming ground zero for the world’s biggest nuclear crisis since 1986, the Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant offered $11 an hour for full-time maintenance work..."

TEPCO didn't care about safety.  They cared about money.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:58 | 1160037 ml8ml8
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They've upped the pay quite a bit, at least at the senior technicial level.  This is a couple of weeks old.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:23 | 1159782 Organic Matter
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It's the only way to be sure.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:30 | 1159812 mick_richfield
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Ho-ho-hold on, hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:07 | 1160047 Organic Matter
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You know, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see zero hedge f'ng each other over for a goddamn percentage.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:29 | 1159802 thatthingcanfly
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The radiation mostly comes out at night. Mostly.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:03 | 1159714 Id fight Gandhi
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Wasn't 4 the better of the lot?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:41 | 1160002 avonaltendorf
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Yes. #4 reactor cold. Spent fuel easy to hose down.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:07 | 1159718 Spalding_Smailes
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Live video feed -


Updated images ten minute lag ....


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:08 | 1159727 LostWages
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Was this before or after the 6.6 aftershock?


Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:09 | 1159733 Yes We Can. But...
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If you are **** S T I L L **** in Tokyo, you @$@$^#$($# moron






Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:07 | 1159734 serotonindumptruck
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Battery storage, eh? That means the workers have to deal with fuming sulfuric acid. Real nasty business when that particular acid is heated.

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 02:59 | 1160735 Drag Racer
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I'm thinking more of hydrogen gas or chlorine gas if they were hit with seawater

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:10 | 1159745 Spalding_Smailes
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MINSK, Belarus — An explosion has ripped through a subway station in the center of the Belarusian capital, severely wounding at least a dozen people and sending clouds of smoke pouring into the street.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene Monday evening saw several inert people being carried out of the station, some with heavy injuries including at least one with missing legs.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:51 | 1160022 dark pools of soros
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those former Soviet states can never catch a break... 

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:10 | 1159747 bud-wiser
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Sometimes, I really wish we could do the thumbs up thing. As in, for Yes We Can, But.

I couldn't have said it better.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:13 | 1159750 PY-129-20
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OT: About the "terror act" in Belarus today

Well, some blogger call this a false flag operation to save Lukashenko's position. What I found more interesting - the amount of Gold has increased fivefold since the beginning of the year, because inflation is running amok in Belarus and people are tired of Lukashenko - according to German magazine "Der Spiegel".

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:11 | 1159752 hambone
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Not to worry - check the headline on CNBC...

Nuclear Power Fears at New Heights Despite Safety, Viability

"The Fukushima meltdown may mark a high point in anti-nuclear hysteria," says one analyst. "As a result, investors should not treat nuclear-related stocks as if they were radioactive."

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:18 | 1159772 Al Gorerhythm
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I would like to know, how long do the spent fuel rods have to be stored before they are rendered harmless? There will be an extended oversight maintenance program to keep them cool I imagine, so what is the plan?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:52 | 1160026 avonaltendorf
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Two answers. In normal operation, after cooling a couple years they can be put in dry casks. At Fukushima, never. Spent fuel rods have burned, melted, been buried under collapsed cranes and twisted wreckage. They don't exist as "fuel rods" anymore. The plan is to tear off some of the wreckage with remote control heavy equipment to get a look at the damage with remote control helicopter cameras. This has as much chance of succeeding as a Chinese fire drill.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:26 | 1160111 DoctoRx
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:29 | 1159801 mick_richfield
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Correcting some typos in that quotation...

"The Fukushima meltdown may mark a high point in anti-nuclear hysteria.  On the other hand, it may also mark the beginning of a massive ecological disaster, war in east Asia, widespread famine, and the worst dieback of our species since the Toba Supereruption.  Of course the latter case would be more difficult to hedge."

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 01:00 | 1160611 MSimon
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BTFD bitchez

Tue, 04/12/2011 - 09:31 | 1161271 Reptil
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An analyst from Euro Pacific Capital. I bet they invested heavily in in it. hahaha

At some point taking a loss is inevitable. The problem is, that accepting the need for new investments, and revaluation of the risk (which is not being done right now), will mean the end of the nuclear industry. (It's just too expensive to insure.) They (we) have a safety and waste disposal problem. Any change and admission of that problem will result in plummetting of market value. So, that's not being done. The only ones really working on it are the germans, and behind the scenes, the canadians. (A little bird told me that. ;-)

For the rest... let's hope nothing bad happens in the next eh 10 years?

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:13 | 1159758 Buck Johnson
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It sure was suppoosed to be the better of the 4 and in some instances the 6.  Fires just don't up and happen.  It could be 3 possibilities, one is that something is getting hot enough to set off fires in the building (burned through core giving off heat that is hot enough to spotaneously start fire).  Two, the fire wasn't in the place they said but in the holding pool and it's starting to burn.  And three, radiation is degrading the electronics and circuitry of the building and the systems may have did a right when they should have done a left in operations.  Fire or no fire, they don't have control of the situation not by a long shot.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:22 | 1159780 serotonindumptruck
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If the fire was in a battery storage building, and the charge control device (electronics) failed, then the batteries could have easily overheated and exploded. Also, the heated sulfuric acid would have likely ignited any flammable materials in the vicinity.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:20 | 1159768 Jack Burton
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 I just listened to NHK's coverage of the level 7 announcement. The Japanese government now openly admits that radiation release has been "Massive", "Dangerous to Human Health", "Wide Spread" and "Ongoing".

Now in and of itself, this is daming enough. What is scary though is that the government offered no evidence or hope that containment of any kind was imminent.

In short, this event can not even be shoved under the rug by the most pro nuclear power people out there, such as Karl Denninger.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:39 | 1159841 chunga
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That's a better than expected "green shoot".

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:20 | 1159777 squexx
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Yahoo!!! That should be good for at least 5% into the green on both the NIKKEI and DOW today!

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:26 | 1159797 trav7777
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I'm amazed more shit hasn't caught fire there

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:12 | 1159905 bob_dabolina
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Truly a miracle from god. Thanks for pointing that out...

BTW ever get that live footage where shit isn't on fire? you didn't because you don't know if other shit is on fire, or if neutron beams are shooting out of another reactor, or anything.

That whole area could be like a neutron beam laser light show and you would have no idea unless TEPCO releases that info (which they wouldn't)

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 21:34 | 1159985 trav7777
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sure it could be...but I am not inclined to assume it is in the absence of evidence.  Would I have evacuated already?  Hell yes, once my own geiger counter started going off

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:03 | 1160043 bob_dabolina
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That really has been my thesis in our long and communal diatribe.

You won't get the evidence. I mean you will eventually, as you can't hide it forever, but there is no real way of knowing what is going on there because the evidence is being suppressed. The only people close enough to the event aren't going to release information unless they absolutely have to, and the only reason they will release "something" is because they have no other choice.

I think we can both agree that right now the situation is not under control. I don't see how they can put the situation in control. I personaly can only see it getting worse.

In my view this is worse than Chernobyl because of its scope. I mean....6 reactors need to be put under control, and that is incredible to think about considering the situation they are in.

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:35 | 1159817 PolishHammer
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fires you can see are the least of their problems


it's the stuff nobody can see, deep in the bowels...radioactive magma going critical every now and then

Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:35 | 1159823 bud-wiser
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Just a moment of silence for those poor heroes who are struggling, on scene, against who-knows-what to buy time for their families, friends, neighbors, and strangers...

I wish their stories were public, because these are the heroics that make us human.

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