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First Video Report Of China's Bullet Train Collision

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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:21 | 1484792 Bam_Man
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Pugsly, Gomez and Uncle Fester could not have topped this one.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:27 | 1484993 dlmaniac
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It's one thing to fake Apple stores, it's another to fake high speed rails.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 16:25 | 1485445 adeptus
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Ironically, the Chinese ad I had to watch prior to the video was of a fake Nike brand for shoes and tennis shirts.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:24 | 1485118 Azannoth
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They should have paid the Germans to do their trains instead of just stealing German technology, serves them right

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 20:22 | 1485849 Arius
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yeah, well,...it is not the first technology they are stealing...so, few people were killed...does it really matter???

what matter is that China rises and west is falling like it or not thats a fact ...none is claiming they are fighting fair .... but who cares right?  at the end what matters is who rules... then the victorious writes the history ....

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 20:36 | 1485860 Arius
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if i might ad to that ... there will be quite a few of Paul Krugman and Joe LaVorgna types (("the king has died long live the king" types you know what i mean)  who will help them to acclimatize their version of history to westerns (the poor remaining souls) ...c'est la vie mon amie ... what goes around comes around...

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 20:22 | 1485848 Stares straight...
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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:30 | 1484818 gwar5
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Two bullet trains head on?  Surprised so few killed actually. Could have been much worse.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:37 | 1484845 Baptiste Say
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The death toll on Utøya island was first reported as 10, once the gunman/gunmen finished it didn't take long to be revised to 84. This might be the same situation.


On the other hand perhaps they were only travelling at low speeds?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:37 | 1484848 fishface
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wasn't head on



WENZHOU, July 23 (Xinhua) -- At least 11 people were dead and 89 injured after two coaches of a bullet train fell off a bridge after derailing in east China's Zhejiang Province late Saturday, local police, firefighters and hospital sources said.

The train numbered D3115, running from the provincial capital Hangzhou to the southeastern city of Fuzhou, derailed at the section of Shuangyu Town in Wenzhou City of Zhejiang at 8:34 p.m.

The accident occurred after the train was hit by lightning and lost drive, and then rear-ended by another bullet train, the official microblog of Hangzhou TV "News 60 minutes" program quoted a local railway official as saying.

The Ministry of Railways confirmed at 11:20 p.m. that the D301 train from Beijing to Fuzhou rear-ended the D3115 train. The first four coaches of D301 and the 15th and 16th coaches of D3115 went off the line.


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:55 | 1484904 Steroid
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Oops. They forgot to steal the anti-lightning system.

This rescue operation seems so unorganized. Just sheer manpower, like everything Chinese.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 16:29 | 1485456 Smiddywesson
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Oh, I see, IT WAS AN ACT OF GOD (if you can say that in China) not shoddy workmanship by a centrally planned economy.  

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 19:03 | 1485685 machineh
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The accident-causing error appears to be lack of fail-safe design. In a fail-safe signal system, a positive 'track is clear' signal is required. Otherwise, the emergency brakes automatically stop the train. So when lightning shut down the power, the trains would have stopped.

On the contrary, China's signal system seemed to assume that it was safe to proceed unless a 'track blocked' signal was received. But with no power, no such signal was received. Kaboom!

If this design prevails throughout the thousands of miles of high-speed network already built, it will take months to retrofit it. Meanwhile, what appears to be a basic engineering error will seriously set back China's ambitions to build high-speed rail in California and elsewhere.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:37 | 1484849 A Nanny Moose
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Were the families charged for this bullet?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:45 | 1484868 Sudden Debt
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Only 50%...


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:13 | 1484962 poggi
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What's wrong with your brain that lets you revel in others' pain and agony?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:43 | 1484854 Sudden Debt
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One driver was yelling: GO LEFT!! I GO LIGHT!

and while driving a bit fast the other driver only heard GO LEGHT, I GO LIFT and he went to the right side...




Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:45 | 1484866 Hacked Economy
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Hey, what happened to my comment I posted only 10 minutes ago?  Someone posted...I (and another person) responded...and now they're all gone.

Did the moderator delete them?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:48 | 1484873 Sudden Debt
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alcohol... does strange things to a man's memory...

COOL HE?!! :)


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:36 | 1486317 Ra-Marduk
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How about shutting your pie hole with this never say never crap. You are a baffoon!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 00:37 | 1486318 Ra-Marduk
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How about shutting your pie hole with this never say never crap. You are a baffoon!

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:47 | 1484875 Baptiste Say
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I believe the member we responded to got so many junks that his post disapeared, I believe it takes 30 junks for this feat and he was at ten only minutes after he posted.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:49 | 1484881 Salinger
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I had it deleted for your comments about my mother.


but here it is for posterity



by Hacked Economy
on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:36


Don't be an ass, Salinger.  People died...if you don't feel this is "newsworthy" to you, then just move along.

Maybe when your own mother dies in a car accident, others will see the local newspaper article the next day and complain to the editor that it's a waste of time, too.


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:53 | 1484896 Tyler Durden
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While you are right that this may not be Business Insider worthy, which instead will focus on news of Amy Winehouse' death (in a 20 page click-generating powerpoint presentation), it sure seems to be Financial Times front page material.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:02 | 1484928 Sudden Debt
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They killed Amy Whinehouse?


Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:10 | 1484952 Salinger
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that was my first thought

Tyler temp #17 seems very sensitive today having to respond to a deleted comment about the temorary Tylers with the front page of a MSM article whose current headline  by the way Business Insider is curently featuring

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:25 | 1485120 dwdollar
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How convenient.  I'm sure she will be the lead story for the MSM next week.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:09 | 1484951 Hacked Economy
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Ah, okay... so you deleted it yourself, Salinger.

I was in no way wishing that your mother would die, but I WAS trying to correlate one horrible scenario with another.  You obviously (and understandably) were upset with a comment about your mother, so perhaps now you see why it's so asinine to make glib comments regarding the lack of "newsworthiness" when others die.

And why so many people junked you.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:15 | 1484968 Salinger
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no I didn't delete (just kidding about the mother stuff) My point was that as tragic as a train derailment and associated deaths it really isn't news worthy of ZH e.g. people are getting slaughtered and brutalized every minute, though CNN and Business Insider love these kind of stories


As for the deletion I don't know who did it but judging by the respsonse from Tyler 17 referring to    my Business Insider slur perhaps he/she/it did - you it's fine to spew racist crap here on ZH but don't dare question the editorial acumen of  a temporary Tyler who happens to be incharge on a summer  weekend

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 15:34 | 1485316 Use of Weapons
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Ok, mr on a high horse, I'll make it "newsworthy".

The trains crashed into each other, thus proving they actually exist, and aren't mirages (like those skyscrapers in the last couple of months). This means that, unlike many Chinese paper assets, everyone should jump long into CRIC-bonds as a) the company assets exist!! b) they EXIST!! and c) they need more (rolling, or not so rolling, its a magnet) stock



See... easy.


[edited to remove a magnet meme that I strongly suspect will go sailing by the intended audience]

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 16:35 | 1485467 Smiddywesson
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One bulelt train is a tragedy, but two bullet trains, full of the people who are soon to EMP us, is a statistic

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:45 | 1485031 agNau
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Is that you officer Crowley?

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:49 | 1484879 Sudden Debt
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I can't wait to see the Directors cut!



Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:53 | 1484898 glenlloyd
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One would think advanced tech trains would have sensors and controls to deal with this issue.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:06 | 1484944 Diogenes
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Or even drivers and brake pedals.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:56 | 1484909 High Plains Drifter
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confucius says , two trains trying to use same track at same time, not good idea.......

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:57 | 1484917 High Plains Drifter
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here we go. i was wondering when this would start. now its those wascally neo nazis that did the norway thingy. yep, i knew it all along........those wascally nazis did it.......

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:07 | 1484947 High Plains Drifter
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msm now picking up on comparison between norway and oklahoma city...yep, its those evil white militias and nazis that are what is wrong in this world......

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 13:54 | 1485056 Pool Shark
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These things always come in threes:


First it was the Norway Shooting/Bombing,

Next its a Train Crash in China,

Finally, that other Train Wreck (Amy Winehouse) dies:



Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:10 | 1485089 agNau
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I speak perfect Delmonte Mandarin! I clearly heard the on site reporter state this was the high speed rail system that Obama would be ordering once the debt ceiling was raised. The news anchor questioned, "why would America want a defective system?" The on site reporter replied "Ling, you ignorant slut! Once the train built and found defective, Obama would be able to create Czars to oversee the regulation of the system, and organized laborers to set strict safety standards, committees to study the system, and use the DHS to keep all passengers safe from terrorist activities. And more the deal was for a train load of worthless Dollars coming our way to pay for skank train! "

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 18:35 | 1485148 Zero Govt
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any safety belts, airbags, frontal impact zones mandated in a 200mph Bullet train?

private transport (cars and planes) Govt mandates stacks of safety equipment with stacks of petty fines

public transport (trains and buses) no seatbelts, airbags, no nothing

the little Hitlers of Govt interferes, patronises and bosses the private sector but leaves the goalposts wide open in the public sector

Fukinshambles ...Govt

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 14:46 | 1485167 sasebo
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I believe this is still TD's site. Post all the crap you like, leave, whatever. It's still TD's site.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 08:56 | 1486868 Bicycle Repairman
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The Chinese made some mistakes, no doubt.  When they fix them, they'll have a better high speed rail system and we'll still have crumbling infrastructure.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:15 | 1487764 tigersea
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govt officials have already teared the carriage apart with excavators and buryed it with injured and dead people inside at site. No attempt to investiage the train and no attempt to remove corpse from it. A surviving 2year old girl found when they teared the carriage apart with excavators. Appreantly they didnt bother to search the carriage.



0:09 & 2:56 people/corpse fell off the carriage when they roll the carriage to the hole.

another video source http://v.ifeng.com/news/paike/201107/61543c00-92e5-4128-9710-afeed542431...




edit: rumor has it saying officer wont get fire if death toll is under 36 so they tried to hid corpses.


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 19:21 | 1489037 laomei
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Hey look... bullshit here.  Jesus some of you people are seriously retarded

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:55 | 1490978 tigersea
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chinese govt is deleteing/editing the video, 2nd video is gone, first video they took out frames @2:26, i will try to find a copy of the original


what they did are like trying to destory the blackbox of aircraft. pure shame.

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