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Fitch Downgrades Portugal To A-, On Rating Watch Negative

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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:26 | 1095622 EscapeKey
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In fact we are shocked the EURUSD is not at 2.00 on the news.

Well, technically, it's about sqrt(2.0).

Anyway, give it time.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 15:55 | 1096505 Tulli
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Judging by what the PSI-20 Portuguese equities benchmark index did today, this is surely bullish for Portuguese stocks, so a gap up is expected as soon as tomorrow!

/sarcasm off.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 20:37 | 1097671 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Only numerous grades higher than Illinois very shocking.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:27 | 1095626 plocequ1
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Wow, Thats not good.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:28 | 1095631 Racer
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Good news for the market

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:31 | 1095638 plocequ1
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Im on sarcasm mode

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:48 | 1095724 Racer
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So was I  :)

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:21 | 1095873 camaro68ss
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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:21 | 1095875 camaro68ss
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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:21 | 1095876 camaro68ss
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I think this news is good for DOW 150+ what do you think

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:29 | 1095630 Frank Redner
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-In fact we are shocked the EURUSD is not at 2.00 on the news.

Stop the crap or back to kindergarten

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:30 | 1095633 stormsailor
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hooray for captain obvious

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:29 | 1095636 cossack55
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Thats rather like the old saw, "Bombing Afghanastan up to the stone-age". A-. Really?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:30 | 1095643 no2foreclosures
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Who cares about what Fitch or Moody's or whatever these rating agencies do?  They are part and parcel of the same Ponzi Scheme called America.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:34 | 1095666 sabra1
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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:43 | 1095707 X. Kurt OSis
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Don't be so hard on the ratings agency people... they are just a bunch of poor saps trying to earn a buck.

Besides, they are just angry about being harrassed by investors, congressmen and the occasional 'bloody loco'...


Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:14 | 1096133 no2foreclosures
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Don't know why ZH double posted my previous comment?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:12 | 1096134 no2foreclosures
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Well, your point is well taken.  People don't make a Ponzi Scheme work, or do they?  Just because they work for this Corp. from Hell does it mean that they are not responsible for their actions just because they are a cog in the wheel of the Ponzi Scheme?  BTW, the cool, calm, and collective one is that video is not a 'norte americano'.  The crazy one is that norte americano.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:36 | 1095675 godzila
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I muss say I'm rather bemused by the recent strength  in the EUR

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:39 | 1095678 dwdollar
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Is it really necessary to have a rating if everyone and Satan is bailed out anyway?  Good for laughs I guess.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:38 | 1095683 Robot Traders Mom
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Most people would be surprised to see how many "high quality" essential service revs and G.O.'s are just plain shit. Many investment firms still have it in their ADV that they will invest in _% AA or insured so they buy absolute shit. So in that sense, Moodys/S&P still matter.

It really is hot potato in the muni market. Meredith maybe early, but she is definitely not wrong.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:37 | 1095686 max2205
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I am shocked they didn't wait a few more days to do a better review.
Who pays these people?!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:40 | 1095688 john milton
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better than expected junk shot

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:41 | 1095691 Seasmoke
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man, what do you have to do to get a BBB

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:46 | 1095713 shushup
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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:54 | 1095727 LawsofPhysics
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Hmm, how to get downgraded...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:52 | 1095729 LawsofPhysics
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Spend within your means, save, and be productive. That will get you downgraded for sure.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:40 | 1095696 Insiderman
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I would say A- represents serious grade inflation.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:42 | 1095701 tallen
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Retardonomics at work, EURUSD up 0.78% today.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:49 | 1095721 LawsofPhysics
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Sweet, maybe a meteor will hit Portugal and they will get their AAA rating back.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:49 | 1095725 Traianus Augustus
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China - hard at work swapping USD turds for EUR turds!!!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:51 | 1095734 Mongo
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Aksjully... the ratings should be rated. To complete the circle of fail it should be done so by the central banks...

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:53 | 1095738 Frank Redner
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Im new here and need to contribute to the community:

chairsatan bitchez, gold bitchez, silver bitchez, even tungsten bitchez, euro crisis bitchez, glowing swans bitchez and bitchez bitchez....


I hope i get a warm welcome



Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:56 | 1095747 Reptil
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junk bitchez!

(neh - too obvious)

ps: I'm new too. Always have been.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:56 | 1095752 Traianus Augustus
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Nice start so far.  I see your previous post has been junked already.  Just remember to post any sarcastic comments with the sarcasm button and you should be good.  Welcome!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 12:56 | 1095746 NOTW777
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affirmative action grading

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:05 | 1095786 downwiththebanks
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Fitch = junk

Why aren't these professional liars in jail?  Not one of the ratings agencies should be operational after the collossal fraud to which they continue to subject us.

Shut these MFers down, and behead the executives.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:06 | 1095792 Dick Darlington
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Here's some more bullish news from Europe. Rioting seems to transfer into the heart of EU, not just Greece or MENA anymore...


Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:15 | 1095842 Portugal
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Conversely, Why aren't you shocked that USDEUR didn't reached (2.00 ) long ago.... Do you really want to compare the financials of Portugal with California, or some other US states ?

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:17 | 1095853 buzzsaw99
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Hey Portugal, take the bailout money and run!

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 15:24 | 1096357 CrashisOptimistic
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It's not BAILOUT.  It's more debt.  That money isn't a grant.  It's a loan.

They Must Defaut.  Until someone has the balls to default, nothing is going to change.  A default will FINALLY trigger the swaps and take it all down.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:36 | 1095951 Ruffcut
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They need a new TV show to correlate to this bullshit.

The Biggest winner, were chubbies eat as much as they can. Hot dog and pie eating contests and the like.

Most amerikans want the ponzi to continue. Bring on all the fake bobbies you can. The ratings agencies are probably instructed to lie for "national security" reasons, and to protect their own personal ponzi positions.

Waiting for next big propaganda campaign;

"telling the truth, is un amerikan."

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:39 | 1095962 HedgeFundLIVE
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this latest move up in the market with all this ugly stuff like the downgrade happening= def. a shorting oppty: http://www.hedgefundlive.com/blog/recent-march-rally-a-shorting-opportunity

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 13:41 | 1095977 faustian bargain
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I guess A- is the new F+

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:08 | 1096110 Johnny Lawrence
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Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:15 | 1096156 eureka
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USD minus Pentagon = Insolvent Fiat #1.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 14:58 | 1096288 Marc45
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When I was in school an A- was considered a pretty good grade.


Thu, 03/24/2011 - 15:21 | 1096337 CrashisOptimistic
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Someone, somewhere HAS to have the balls to default and trigger the swaps.

Only the swaps really matter.  It is the swaps that cause the rampant bailouts.  Until someone defaults rather than take a slavery inducing bailout, nothing will change.

Thu, 03/24/2011 - 15:27 | 1096375 Ferg .
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The market's response to anything euro negative as of late can be condensed down to one simple sentiment : who gives a fuck .

It truly has been a nightmare to trade , as has FX in general .

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