Florida Judge Declares Entire Healthcare Law Void

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Mon, 01/31/2011 - 16:36 | 921487 traderjoe
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Yikes! It's on like Donkey Kong...

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 16:38 | 921493 TheGoodDoctor
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"There's a shitstorm coming Rand." Jim Lahey

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 16:43 | 921527 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I hope you go see the boys do their live show. In the interim, we're all takin' the shit tornado right back to Oz.


Pass the booze.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 16:55 | 921591 dlmaniac
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Is there a derivative to short Obama administration? I wanna go all in on that one on a 10x leverage.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 16:57 | 921607 financeguru500
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Well there goes the only solution to save medicare. So long, hardly ever knew ya.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 17:09 | 921660 Herd Redirectio...
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This 'judge' knows the Supreme Court  will overturn his decision.  Just like with the Rahm Emanuel case (not being allowed onto the Chicago Mayoral ballot), you only have to pay off the highest court, it seems.  Lets hope it is merely cynicism talking.

Any way, check out the latest from the Capital Research Institute:

The World's Addiction to Credit


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Mon, 01/31/2011 - 17:40 | 921806 Clinteastwood
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Unconstitutional bitchez!

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 17:45 | 921830 Haywood Jablowme
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Like I said before, Obama and his administration will probably go down as the WORST in USSofA history...



Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:22 | 922281 weinerdog43
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Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:51 | 922347 Pants McPants
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Not even close.  They are bad, sure, but he hasn't killed nearly enough people (yet) to be considered among such failures as FDR, Wilson, or LBJ.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:06 | 922375 PeterSchump
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Aren't those chaps considered to be the best among U.S. presidents?

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:26 | 922398 Pure Evil
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Damn, if ObamaCare gets repealed, then Jakarta Jim's only other accomplishment will have been to turn the Military into one vast homosexual playground.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 01:59 | 922939 Strongbad
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In a parallel dimension perhaps.  I would rank them as the three worst as well.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:06 | 922376 PeterSchump
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Mon, 01/31/2011 - 19:28 | 922159 blunderdog
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No doubt, Herd, this is a big fat nothingburger.

The Feds don't care what's Constitutional, especially talking about what some yahoo judge in Florida rules is Constitutional or not.

It's strange that anyone would think this is an important story...in a country where the Feds can read your email and listen to your phone calls without cause or warrant.  In a country which wages war at will without declaration from Congress.  In a country where your "First Amendment right" (ha) to assemble peacefully is dependent on receiving authorization from the local government to meet in a "Free Speech Zone."  Where you can't buy a gun without a 3 day wait and a background check.  Where the Supreme Court steps into the national election process despite Constitutional decree that such elections are in the hands of the States, and THEN never bothers to follow up to improve the system.  Where law enforcement armed with automatic rifles and grenades performs "no-knock" raids of non-violent citizens in their own homes.  Where our soldiers torture prisoners to death because we spent 5 years coming up with the right legal arguments about why it's not torture and why they're not prisoners.

Now some asshole in FL says this bullshit healthcare law is unconstitutional?  Fuckin' hilarious!

So what is anyone going to DO ABOUT IT? 

Nothing to see here.  This is just a PR play that won't make a lick of difference in whether the law is changed.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:06 | 922242 hardmedicine
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well said +1000

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:39 | 922325 Mr Poopra
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We don't have the proper catalyst yet, but we will.  It needs to be strong enough to be self sustaining and irrefutable.  In my opinion anything short of the truth about CIA and Mossad involvement in 9/11 will fizzle out or be spun.  The universe itself is acting against them, it is inevitable.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 07:13 | 923106 creviceCaress
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sentence #1 - check

sentence #2 - check

the rest.....remember jfk?....the truth shall set you to pee


Tue, 02/01/2011 - 07:17 | 923107 creviceCaress
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sentence #1 - check

sentence #2 - check

the rest.....remember jfk?....the truth shall set you to pee


Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:04 | 922369 nmewn
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I had to read this twice...agree with most...citizens don't directly elect the president, as it should be. 

This caught my eye..."Where our soldiers torture prisoners to death because we spent 5 years coming up with the right legal arguments about why it's not torture and why they're not prisoners."...I have to ask.

I assume you mean the five year policy of rendition started under Clinton, Berger, Clark in the 90's?...however our soldiers never touched them.

If you mean "waterboarding"...that's considered rough foreplay in some parts of San Francisco ;-)

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:22 | 922393 blunderdog
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Waterboarding is torture when other countries do it, but some Americans have decided it's not torture when we do it.  I won't speak to that--it's self-explanatory.

So eliminate from discussion any deaths that occurred during waterboarding sessions, and over a hundred non-prisoners were found dead from complications of injuries they received after being non-tortured by our soldiers.  Beatings, suspension from the ceiling, long periods of sleep-deprivation, take your pick.

The military investigators have ruled many of these deaths "murder."  But hey, military investigators tend to be anti-American anyway, and since these people weren't prisoners, it doesn't count.

Aside from any facts bearing on any aspect of the circumstances, there's a good argument in there.

The real elegance is that the same soldiers who did their best to comply with their orders without losing their minds and humanity are the ones most likely to end up with dishonorable discharges and/or brig-time for the non-crimes of brutality that didn't occur against the non-prisoners.

Now THAT'S "Constitutional."

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:27 | 922400 nmewn
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No slithering...speak to Clinton's rendition.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 21:45 | 922428 blunderdog
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Partisan hack. 

If you read my rants and think I'd support Clinton in any way, you're a moron.  His rendition policy is exactly the kind of anti-Constitutional legalist sleaze that led me to anarchism in the first place. 

So fucking what?

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 22:24 | 922520 nmewn
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Of course you know I'm just jackin around with the thought process...but...

So you (or me) agree Clinton giving intel to nations who don't uphold our standard of jurisprudence was a bad idea.

So far so good.

Now what about the problem with waterboarding, which is something we put our own troops through during training?

So the logical position here must be...if it's voluntary waterboarding it must be OK (like in San Francisco), if it's involuntary waterboarding it must be torture.

Glad we got that sorted out...LOL.

I guess we don't even need to volunteer opinions on the fining of restaurant recipes in New York City because the state says they contain too much salt or fat or sugar...it must be all good ;-)

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 23:18 | 922659 blunderdog
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There's no problem at all with waterboarding as long as you ignore that all-hallowed Constitution which maintains some rather quaint poetic language in it about cruel and unusual punishment.

Oh...I just figured it out...this is all about you and your little menu thing.  We obviously don't share a common sense of perspective. 

In my opinion, there's likely something very unusual about you if you'd equate being assessed a fine with being tortured to death.  But I don't blame you for it--we don't choose what we are.  If you get your weenie stand's case up in front of the Supremes, I'll come vouch for you.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 08:01 | 923134 nmewn
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"Oh...I just figured it out...this is all about you and your little menu thing."

A small thing leading to larger things.

"We obviously don't share a common sense of perspective."

I think we do. You just prefer to concentrate on painting the house while I point out the termites under the wood.

"In my opinion, there's likely something very unusual about you..."

I wish it were more pervasive.

"If you get your weenie stand's case up in front of the Supremes, I'll come vouch for you."

LOL...your a good man, I knew I could count on you to help me stand up against them.

Take care.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 02:21 | 922977 WaterWings
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Also, it's a potential hornets nest for further dividing the American people.

"They took my mom's healthcare away! Mu'fuckas! I'm burning some shit today!"

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 03:47 | 923041 MSimon
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The War Aginst the Barbary Pirates was undeclared. Read the AUMF for that war. Compare it to the AUMF for the current war. How did Jefferson get away with an undeclared war? Didn't he read the Constitution?


You know - it is like the preferred mode for Paulites is ignorance.  And that is despite the point  that I think they have domestic policy 99+% right.


Mon, 01/31/2011 - 17:35 | 921767 Problem Is
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"Is there a derivative to short Obama administration?"

If Their Careers Were Their Stock Price
Which one of those moronic, incompetent pricks would you short with SO many to choose from?

Obummer? Bone-head Biden? "Empty Suit" Holder? Mary "Queen of Porn" Schapiro? "Fat" Larry Summers? Valerie "Jevees" Jarrett? Rahm-Tard Emanual? David "Douche-Boy" Axelrod? Robert "I AM a Prick Lawyer" Gibbs? Sheila "Shoe Horn Up My Ass and Lovin' It" Bair? Stevie "The Rat" Ratner?...


Or perhaps Timmay "The Wanker" Jeethner?

You would have to make a Short ETF for all these loser pricks who are going down career wise...

Only Fail Upward... a la The Rube-Boy Rubin
It is a good thing that our Ruling Oligarchy only fail upwards...

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:30 | 922009 A Nanny Moose
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Wouldn't matter. You would lose out in the daily settlement.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 19:07 | 922118 SilverRhino
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If you find it .... hell I'm ALL in!! :-)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 01:21 | 922893 Boxed Merlot
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Me too, but sense I'm already upside down, I'll throw my own shorts in.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 10:00 | 923394 chumbawamba
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Found it!


I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 17:16 | 921695 Devout Republican
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Oh thank the Heavenly Father!  If you are too poor to have insurance it means God does not love you.  Try harder!

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:15 | 921966 Carl Spackler
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If you are "too poor" to have insurance, just go to the hospital, anyway.

They will still treat you for free, and the people who have insurance will continue to pay the hospital bills of everybody.

The system has been working like that for many years.

Liberals are losers. Too bad, so sad.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:32 | 922017 Devout Republican
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You Betcha!  They are losers!  Happily they will be left behind to cannibalize each other while me and my ZH brothers are in the arms of the loving Father!


Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:52 | 922072 CrockettAlmanac.com
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We've seen this shtick before and it's not particularly entertaining if for no other reason than the fact that most folks here at ZH are unaligned with Teams Red and Blue. Take me for instance. I'm an objectivist, anarcho-capitalistic, pro-Palestinian, atheist Tea Partier. And I'm one of the less interesting people around here.

How's your little "Devout Republican" joke going to compete with that? Free market individualism has made ZH a far more entertaining and informative place than your centrally planned, partisan humor could ever hope to equal.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 19:03 | 922105 Flakmeister
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  Kudos... Impressive resume...as for me

Social liberatarian, anti-corporatist, eco-realist, pragmatic, progressive, empiricist, atheist sprinkled with a smattering of Buddhist. That being said I'd sooner vote for the devil incarnate than any Republican that has "graced" my ballot.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:49 | 922345 Devout Republican
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</snark>DR loves you!<snark>

Palin 2012!</snark></body></html>

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:50 | 922346 Flakmeister
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  Sorry, but the trolling nets have been drawn up for evening.. Better luck next time.

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 01:30 | 922904 lawrence1
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Agreed, at least the devil seems to be a thinking being, not a rigid, brain-dead dogmatic
cliche-infested republican.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 19:06 | 922115 Jendrzejczyk
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A sincere bow to your eloquence.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 20:43 | 922333 cdskiller
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Mon, 01/31/2011 - 19:51 | 922201 whatz that smell
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eating sinners is a sin, pink jesus.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:31 | 922012 Confused
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I junked you. Not because I disagree with you, but its how you said it.


This is what gives religion a bad name. People that think they know what the creator would think. 


I bet you think he hates "gays" too. 

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:36 | 922024 Devout Republican
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I wouldn't know about that.  Personally, I can't understand why people would chose to live that lifestyle.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 18:44 | 922051 Calmyourself
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Evil projection puppet..

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 19:18 | 922143 McJobsworth
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because they would like to stick their love rocket that your good lord created up your poo poo passage?

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