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    The price of gold shot up this week, and silver moved proportionally. Headlines are screaming for gold to hit $10,000 or $50,000. Does this alleged new bull market have legs?

FMX Connect Debunks The Reverse Psychology In Goldman's "Buy Gold" Recommendation

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Tue, 03/22/2011 - 21:50 | 1088256 Michael
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Anyone who takes Goldman Sachs masters of deception word for anything needs their head examined.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:00 | 1088295 monopoly
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Right on Michael, +1

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:18 | 1088343 Herd Redirectio...
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They are trying to get people to TRADE gold.  'Nuff said.  What you need to do is HOLD gold.  For when, I'm not sure any one can say with any certainty, but we will wake up one day to gold prices atleast double what they were the night before.  The 1933 dollar devaluation will be a fond memory, at that point.

Check out the Capital Research Institute "The Day The Standards Died":

http://www.capitalresearchinstitute.org

We have spent a lot of time discussing the Gold standard and what it means to have the world reserve currency here at the Capital Research Institute. But today we want to look at something a little different, but just as crucial: the importance of accounting standards. OK, OK, I am hearing the yawns already, just bear with me! When the Financial Crisis hit in late 2008 not only did Capitalism die, when the Government decided bankrupt firms (of their choosing) should no longer be exposed to the risk of failure! The history books are going to be speechless on that one, and will simple relate: “It seemed like a good idea at the time!?!?” But what may have slipped under a lot of (non-accounting) people’s noses was that accounting standards were also effectively removed at that time. The most important of which were mark-to-market accounting rules.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 02:07 | 1088942 sherryw
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Er.... yes we know this. and????

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 05:25 | 1089057 Debtman And Robbin
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You think they are trying to get people to trade gold?

Where do you read that?

It appears to me they are trying to get people to trade CLAIMS on gold.

 

 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 23:03 | 1088538 Michael
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Goldman Sachs is the mirror image of Gollum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvIFRNbqOs

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 08:04 | 1089240 Cash_is_Trash
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Hehehe, it's been noted here before that Gollum looks like Herman Van Rompuy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Van_Rompuy

 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:10 | 1088316 Thomas
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It will always be a three card monty.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:21 | 1088353 Careless Whisper
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Any analysis of a Goldman recommendation is PATHETIC. Seriously, do you think they will publish a paper that is intended to help the general public? Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:19 | 1088350 penisouraus erecti
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+

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 21:53 | 1088261 DoChenRollingBearing
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I pay zero attention to what Goldman Sux and JP Morgue have to say.  They recommend then unrecommend PAPER.  They are basically acting like carnival barkers and con men.

Drive a stake in their hearts, buy physical gold!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:02 | 1088298 Doña K
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Assuming that all the people who can afford to buy and hold physical Gold, buy it all and take it out of circulation and price goes to $10,000 or higher, who would want it and why?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:11 | 1088322 bankrupt JPM bu...
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why would anyone sell Gold for fiat if its hits $10,000?  At that point the $US will be worth as much as Blythe's derivatives.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:15 | 1088340 savagegoose
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they might want to become a slum lord, and there is a great deal on a whole block of houses for $10k

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 23:02 | 1088542 tmosley
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At that point, you can be assured that the current owner of those slums would prefer to have the gold, not the dollars.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 21:52 | 1088265 Moe Howard
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Purchase physical from Worm Lip KaddafyDuck. I understand he is short FIAT and long physical.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:03 | 1088301 Doña K
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I had a Fiat once and it was factory pre-rusted. Any connection?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:12 | 1088326 Moe Howard
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Yes, Chrysler.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:17 | 1088328 GoinFawr
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 Only if you want to be seen as admiring brutal dictators and their gold, because short fiat long gold=QDaffy. Or so I keep hearing...

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 00:45 | 1088840 Diogenes
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They call it Fiat money because it depreciates like a rusty Italian car.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 21:59 | 1088286 monopoly
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It is really so simple for me. I buy more on the dips, and take 1/3 off on rips. Always keep my core holdings, always. 3 months forward on options, no more, from time to time. That is my speculative side. Limited losses there if I am wrong. And add physical whenever I can. I never try and be cute and short gold. Sure there are some super shorts for a few days, but for me it is too much to time, I just lighten up and hope to get the turn up soon after it starts.

Does anyone feel comfortable around a squid? Especially a Giant one? And cramer, not even worth typing about.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:10 | 1088321 Doña K
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Assuming you had $20k holdings and it went up to $27k. then you took 1/3 off ($9k) and now your holding is $18k. What level down do you consider a dip? Would you buy once, twice or thrice if price drifted down three days in a row? And how much each time.

Help me understand the concept.   

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:01 | 1088294 Ray1968
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Just today I exited my Dec 11 Gold 1200 call. Nice profit. Didn't need the squid to tell me to do that.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:02 | 1088297 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Goldman knows Gold! Really they do..

If they said buy today and came out in a week and said sell, well. You must have missed the fact that they trade the micro trend.

Dummies!

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:03 | 1088300 oldmanagain
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My experience in this situation is that Goldman is wanting to buy the nearby and sell the deferred contracts in hopes of backwardation. Since Dec is thin they need some buyers for their short side.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:05 | 1088306 Mineshaft
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When does someone get the nice pair of Silver handcuffs?  I am getting tired of waiting.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:10 | 1088317 Oh regional Indian
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Gold's day in the Sun is dun. You have to see through the smoke and mirrors. 

No technical or other analysis needed to tell you that. Don't do as they say, do as they do. All the talk, disparagiing or otherwise, is about gold. Meanwhile, over a 1,500 Kilos of Silver shot on the plains of Libya in one hour of missile-barraging.

War is the future and silver is real in that scenario. They did the same in WWII, study soem history. Silver has been destroyed, physically, over and over. What is it they fear about it so much?

Think.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/interesting-times-sweet-validations/

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:44 | 1088429 Cdad
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Ummm...I'm long silver...so don't get me wrong...but this IS NOT AN INVESTABLE THESIS.  Good grief, ORI.  Seriously...1500 kilos blown in the dessert the last couple days...and what... it is going to flow through to the spot? 

Listen, I try to give you the benefit of the doubt...and then you go and say something like this.

Good grief...definitely buy silver but for other reasons.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:47 | 1088445 Oh regional Indian
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All good Cdaddy-O! We all work on our own instincts, ne? Seriously, what does a prolonged war do for silver? Will they sift the sands for it?

Good Grief..... oxymoron!

;-)

ORI

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 23:18 | 1088598 ZapBranigan
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What happened to your March 22nd prediction?  It's almost midnight and nothing has happened.  Please stop posting/advertising-your-website and making predictions that are based on nothing.  ZH is a financial and geopolitical website, take that fearmongering shite elsewhere. (Rense or AJ perhaps)

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 23:53 | 1088717 Oh regional Indian
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Zapper, your choice of avaatar speaks volumes for who you are. It's all very subliminal.

ow I suggest you delete yourself.

And by the way, it wasn't me, it was Terrence McKenna who said that, and have you taken a look around at the world going into the shitter> Libya war launched on the 19th?

Ah, why bother.

You cesium to exist as far as I am concerned and I suggest you see me the same way, all well.

ORI

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 04:41 | 1089037 Bay of Pigs
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Bullshit dude. You said otherwise. Still may happen though, but why the Sinclair type predictions? Makes no sense.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 09:40 | 1089578 ZapBranigan
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Yeah, exactly what BoP said, "Bullshit".  Don't play-off your endless failed predictions on someone else.  You specifically told all ZH'ers to have ALL of their money and assets OUT of the markets before March 22nd and I bet some naive individuals actually took your advice.  Yet another one of your busted prophesies, remember, a broken clock is right at least twice a day.  You are definitely 'on-notice' now.

I'm not junking your right towards spiritual/astrological enlightenment, but this isn't the forum for your New Age rants.  If you can't post on relevant market and political issues, then don't post at all.  Take it somewhere else. 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:13 | 1088325 Bansters-in-my-...
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Did you say "Godman Sachs.?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:14 | 1088332 High Plains Drifter
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There was a time when they had about 80B in type 3 assets. I suppose these now have long ago been off loaded on the FED which of course means us??

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:15 | 1088339 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368693/Libya-war-Germans-pull-f...

the coalition of the willing is falling apart now. its ten long years since 911. perhaps the sheep are restless now and are not as willing to go for the lies anymore.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:18 | 1088344 Dr. Porkchop
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I just read about this new development of JP Morgue getting a quick and dirty license from CFTC to be a silver vault.

Oh, what new and evil shenannigans are they going to get up to with this one? I think it does show that they are having to get creative.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:31 | 1088394 umop episdn
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http://seekingalpha.com/article/259549-will-jp-morgan-now-make-and-take-...

The bank can now, potentially, deliver short obligations to itself. Yes, you read that correctly. The bank itself, if it still holds short silver positions, and/or the hedge funds/related financial institutions who may have taken over the positions, can now deliver the alleged metal to J.P. Morgan's own vault.

Is this the link? I can't keep track of all the writers on that site...how reliable is this guy?

 

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 00:36 | 1088832 rich_wicks
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Well, JP Morgan would have to still purchase a futures contract in order to deliver to itself.  I don't see how this really fixes their problem, if indeed, they are naked short on the COMEX.  How is this at all different to simply closing the short position?

Maybe they hope to get clients to go long on silver, and then desposit paper silver at the vault?

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:17 | 1088345 Bansters-in-my-...
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Save a cow...Eat a FAT FUCKING BANKER.

Banksters-in-my- feces.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:17 | 1088346 Blano
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Props to FMX for the tone and attitude of the article.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:21 | 1088355 unclebigs
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The Always Long Gold Trade is going to Backfire on Goldbugs just like it did in 2008.  LOL!!!!

 

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 23:31 | 1088644 DoChenRollingBearing
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We´ll see.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 00:06 | 1088749 PaperWillBurn
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Remind me, what was the price of gold in 2008?

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 00:08 | 1088752 gosseyn
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Where did you come from troll?

We BTFD below 730 spot in 2008 and our rec was in the public domain at the time.

Before this is all over you will BTD, that's bite the dick.  You'll cry "uncle", unclebigs.

Wed, 03/23/2011 - 00:39 | 1088836 rich_wicks
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1000 to 750 to 1400 didn't backfire on me.

"lol".

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:20 | 1088356 Bansters-in-my-...
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Does Godman Sucks get thier Very Own New shiny Precious metals Vault,like the J P Morgue & Chase do...???

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:24 | 1088363 gwar5
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Goldman Sachs is the mothership of alien predators.

Swab their DNA if you don' believe me.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:27 | 1088378 FischerBlack
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Great write up. Love it.

Tue, 03/22/2011 - 22:33 | 1088402 3rivers
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some of the shortfall is being made up for. Treasure Island yesterday reports gold prod up 34% yoy, silver 66% nickel 55%.  if more mining countries keep increasing maybe the shortage will finally be reduced.  that would be good news? making it more affordable to accumulate. but what if they keep increasing production? not everyone lives in Palawan.   

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