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Oh regional Indian's picture

It might be safe to declare that North Africa has been tipped over into th efirst stages of Chaos.

Nothing good will come out of this except for the installation of toady's like ElBaradei into positions of power, supposedly on the back of popular revolt.

The game, it seems, is going well according to plan. And Egyptians are playing right into their hands.

Please note the giant twitter symbol in the screen capture, pounding in the massage that twitter=freedom. Masterful. Bernays would be proud.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/wisdom-for-warriors-6/

kridkrid's picture

And I thought I was cynical.  What are some of the other pieces of the plan that I should be looking for?  I am open minded, for sure... just not well versed.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Watch for the GOM story to come right back in the news as a temporal marker that things are going to get really crappy.

Along with it, watch for the Vatican/Clerical sex abuse story to resurface with a vengeance. Remember too that it was the Gulf of Mexico disaster on April 20th, that pushed a fast peaking/breaking Church Abuse story into the complete background ever since.  

When it rains in Spain (figuratively of course), another big temporal marker that the tipping point is behind us. The revolution WILL go to Spain. 

If you weren't being sarcastic, I can give you more.

ORI

kridkrid's picture

Not sarcastic, at all.  About me: something like a libertarian anarchist.  Makes me want to believe in things like wikileaks and the sort of "revolution" we are watching in Egypt... BUT hopelessly cynical and prone to believing we can never have anything nice.

fredquimby's picture

Hi Kridkid,

This is a great article for you about this and wiki/Egypt/TPTB...

http://www.thedailybell.com/1717/Fall-of-Saudi-Arabia-to-End-Dollar-Rese...

Boonie's picture

fredquimby, thank you for the link.  I was unaware of the Daily Bell.  Article is something I've been thinking through and alerting friends.  IMO Ben and Timmay are engaged in a global game of chicken, but it's going to end up being dollar suicide.  The historical and cultural significance of Egypt the Middle East and Arab world should not be underestimated.  In my view, the dominoes fall to Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere of course).  The royal family then has a decision - do they fear their social revolution more than either the U.S. military or Iran.  If social revolution and loss of power is more feared, then the delink and stop pricing oil in dollars (hello Weimar USA), although at risk of U.S. invasion?  If they fear Iran more, then try to resist the revolution, fail, and still U.S. invasion to try to secure oil fields and we know how well that turned out in Iraq.  As I type this, I think under either scenario pricing of oil in dollars is soon to be history.  Thank you Ben and Timmy.

chumbawamba's picture

Good luck invading Saudi Arabia when no one will take your silly dollars to buy their oil anymore.

But even if we did successfully manage to take over (which, let's be realistic, won't be too difficult considering the resources and personnel already there, not to mention the remote sabotage triggers probably built in to every F16 we ever sold to them) it would be a fleeting occupation.  Most of the troops that would be used to secure SA would quickly find themselves in an entirely untenable situation and will skulk away in the night using any means available to hightail it back home to the US.

The US Empire is done.  This is just the semi-formal announcement.

I am Chumbawamba.

Boonie's picture

Agreed.  One can only sit back in awe at the sight of the gross strategic miscalculation unfolding right before our eyes.  Too bad the snap-back is going to be very hardscrabble for the 99% of us Americans, regardless of how prepared we may believe we are positioned as individuals or families. 

jus_lite_reading's picture

It's better to be 10 minutes too early than 10 seconds too late...

In an ironic twist, 12/2012 might actually be better than what the next few months bring starting now.

Haywood Jablowme's picture

In an ironic twist, 12/2012 might actually be better than what the next few months bring starting now.

 

The mayans have it right.  They understood cyclical patterns.

 

Malcolm Tucker's picture

BREAKING NEWS: Saudi demonstration planned for Saturday (today) to protest the corruption and lack of infrastructure in Jeddah after massive floods devastate the city this week!

http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/2011/01/saudi-hiccup.html

The protest is being organized via Blackberry Messenger...

CPL's picture

Tower is down now btw that you chit chatted about it...dumb fuck.

 

Anon is working to make a mesh network available, not that you know what the fuck that is.  Not sure if we should defend anyone here.   Seriously.  When it's sayd anon, USE FUCKING ANON.  Since you used specifics, nice, anyone that helped keep it open it dead or run away fuck nut. 

 

This isn't a video game, please understand other humans are trying their damnest to keep it open.

 

..fuck sakes...swear to christ you all deserve what you get...oh Ahmed is dead btw because of your big mouth if you didn't think a million people read this.  Don't make me drive two hours.

snowball777's picture

Once TD has made your blog a front page item, you can feel free to stop spamming it all over the damn site. 

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Everything is connected to everything else in this 'interdependent' world of ours, so might as well mention it here.  Check out "The World's Addiction to Credit" on the Capital Research Institute's blog: www.capitalresearchinstitute.org

"More credit means more money and more money means higher inflation unless offset with economic growth, which is hard to attain in consideration of the amount of additional money the Federal Reserve Bank, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund have added to the system for the bailouts. Due to the weaknesses and low interest rates in the developed world, additional capital is flowing into emerging markets which therefore drives up prices and causes inflation unless they raise their interest rates, which slows down economic growth and causes their currencies to appreciate, the opposite of what they want. Countries around the world are in a race to the bottom of their currencies, they try to devalue in order to gain a competitive edge over its neighbours to compete for exports."

DaveyJones's picture

pride goeth before the fall - Herodotus

Rodent Freikorps's picture

Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Proverbs 16:18

snowball777's picture

Herodotus: 484BC - 425BC

Great Assembly: ~450 BC

It's a tie!

UpShotKnotHoleGrable's picture

mubarak on charlie rose saying how much his country benefited under his administration, that it is a democracy and how women are respected w/ rose lapping it up of course (minute 2).

famous last words:

"reform has to be home grown, it is what the people demand" - mubarak (minute 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvYe2-PabZY&playnext=1&list=PL23D98698A05...

 

Shylockracy's picture

We do not govern Egypt, we govern the governors of Egypt.
—Lord Cromer (1841-1917)

Shylockracy's picture

Thanks for indicating the Carroll Quigley repository.

I have been looking for a while for an online copy of Tragedy and Hope, and now I have it. Cheers.

Bastiat's picture

Most of the troops that would be used to secure SA would quickly find themselves in an entirely untenable situation

Right.  US troops in control of Mecca?   Global jihad -- every muslim with a pulse would jump in.

Uncle Remus's picture

Global jihad -- every muslim with a pulse would jump in.

Maybe even a couple without a pulse, Osama comes to mind.

And "untenable"? Understatement, of the dangerous variety.

Rick Masters's picture

Really? Isnt this article about Egpyt. SA will not fall. There wont even be protests. Look at the population numbers. I, for one, am taking a wait and see approach for I announce the end of empire and the beiniing of the fall of Arab dictators. I think it would be very bad for us if Mubarek fell and very bad for the Egyptians unless you like Islamic rule.

Rick Masters's picture

Thanks for the junks but i know what im talking about. SA will not fall. What happens in Egypt laregly depends on the military's reaction. Do they suopport Mubarek or do they stage a coup to restore "order". The wildcard in the Muslim Brotherhood. They are small, maybe 10 to 20 percent of the poulation, from what i have read in year's past, but might are very savvy politcially. It's really anyone's educated guess. And I mean educated, as in having read books like "The Life and Times of Muhammed" and "Milestones." Milestones is a must read for anyone wanting to know how al-Qaeada thinks. It would be a mistake to view this thru Western glasses. IMO, there's a 50/50 between Mubarek being exiled and the army taking power but it is one or the other. I could be wrong but this is not bringing down the global economy...sorry perma-gloomers. News like this certainly brings out the wacky in all of us. In the end, we won't know what is going to happen til it happens.

Bob's picture

Indeed.  Take Mubarak's strategy of warning the public that they'll need him to take care of them.  Looting is growing--how many of the looters, one has to wonder, are plainclothes cops?  Now the prisons are being emptied--and they are not all political prisoners. 

Most saavy move, however, seems to be allowing protests to simmer along.  One has to wonder how basic provisions will hold up in this large urban center--are food deliveries continuing uninterrupted?  I doubt it. 

Mubarak is playing his position to feed the downside of anarchy until the people give up, imo.

Mr Lennon Hendrix's picture

Jihad means "personal struggle" and only has to do with a spiritual journey.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Everyone meeds to understand that.

Another mal-understood, mal-propagated word for mal-odorous effect. Thanks LH.

ORI

nmewn's picture

"not to mention the remote sabotage triggers probably built in to every F16 we ever sold to them"

;-)

Rick Masters's picture

Are there such things? I certainlly hope so. How do you know, BTW? Not being a smart-a**; just want to gauge your knowledge.

Rusty Shorts's picture

Obviously, you need to bone up on your history. Once upon a time in the late 1970's, the good'ole USA sold Iran (79) F-14 Tomcats.

...rumors suggest that all 77 remaining Tomcats (two had been lost in 1977 during training flights) were somehow sabotaged so that they could no longer fire their Phoenix missiles. Whether or not these rumors have any merit to them is debated, as is the identity of who may have performed this sabotage and how. Various accounts credit the act to either departing Grumman technicians or Iranian Air Force personnel friendly to the US. Perhaps the simplest and most effective means of performing this sabotage would have been to remove or somehow corrupt the software in the aircraft's flight computer that interfaces with and commands the missiles..."

snowball777's picture

They uploaded StuxNet via an RS232 cable.

born2bmild's picture

The US switches sides of who they support so often there's probably a module for that device - just plug it in. Also, we have electronic countermeasure A-6's that completely black out any enemy radar, it makes their radar screen look like the entire luftwaffe is coming when it's just one or two planes. The USS Enterprise did it 4/88 in the Gulf fighting on the side of Iraq in the Iran Iraq War. We sank nearly every ship in the Iranian Navy (in one sortie) and put a radio controlled bomb down the smokestack of the biggest ship they had. That's old tech'. No telling what's current.

Kayman's picture

Barrels were outsourced to China because of their high standards and knowledge of metallurgy.

Ludwig Van's picture

 

"But even if we did successfully manage to take over (which, let's be realistic, won't be too difficult...."

Not realistic at all.

 

SwingForce's picture

Empire? Did somebody say EMPIRE? Ooops, Revolution Calling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJb3Lcvtn4M&feature=related

Lyrics from 1990 will floor you: Hey, where's RobotTrader all week?


 "Revolution Calling" 

For a price I'd do about anything
Except pull the trigger
For that I'd need a pretty good cause
Then I heard of Dr. X
The man with the cure
Just watch the television
Yeah, you'll see there's something going on

Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It's just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There's a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
[There's a] Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through

I'm tired of all this bullshit
They keep selling me on T.V.
About the communist plan
And all the shady preachers
Begging for my cash
Swiss bank accounts while giving their
Secretaries the slam

They're all in Penthouse now
Or Playboy magazine, million dollar stories to tell
I guess Warhol wasn't wrong
Fame fifteen minutes long
Everyone's using everybody, making the sale

I used to think
That only America's way, way was right
But now the holy dollar rules everybody's lives
Gotta make a million doesn't matter who dies

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
[There's a] Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
[There's a] Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through 

 

 

SwingForce's picture

Oh yeah,  Send "In 'N' Out" Ringtones to Cell 

(Words by Van Halen) 

Yeah, I been in debt from conception
I pay for the rest of your life
As long as I remember, bills have looked me in the eye

You can have it now but ya gotta pay for it later. Oh!
Work me out, the payment's cleared
Now you're workin' for the man. Yeah

They gotcha goin' in. They gotcha comin' out
Same amount, woo! In 'n out

Ain't no way 'round the system
Money make this world go round
All the way, they got you down

Stay and add it up or throw yourself out a window. Oh!
Might cost you less to stick around
One more payment. Lay it down, on the ground

Well, they gotcha comin' in, they gotcha goin' out
Same amount, woo! In 'n out
Oh!

Uh uh uhuh yeah
Uh uh uhuh yeah
Uh uh uhuh yeah 
Woo, come on!

DosZap's picture

 If they fear Iran more, then try to resist the revolution, fail, and still U.S. invasion to try to secure oil fields and we know how well that turned out in Iraq

The US failed to bring in enough troops,and we should not make that mistake ever again.

The scenarios you paint leaves them one choice, Stick w/the US, because come hell or high water, we WILL be there enmasse,regardless.

Oh regional Indian's picture

This time, it is different. But it's the old cry wolf problem. 

ORI

downrodeo's picture

libertarian anarchist....cynical and prone to believing we can never have anything nice

ahhh, a kindred spirit!

/hat tip/

MilleniumJane's picture

we can never have anything nice.

One of the most tragic and profound statements I have read in a long time.

+1

chumbawamba's picture

Life isn't fair.  You can have whatever you want, as long as you're willing to fight for it.

I am Chumbawamba.

American Dreams's picture

Agreed Chumba, agreed.

 

know your enemy