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Follow The Egyptian Revolution Live Via Al Jazeera
Forget the irrelevant inventory accumulation... pardon... GDP number. The real news today is coming from Egypt, where history is currently being made and a regime is in the process of being overthrown despite the unprecedented country-wide internet shutdown. The fallout from today's riots will be momentous. Follow all the news in real time from Al Jazeera.
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I think it is more dirty, because we have allowed it. The idea that people should treat each other with respect has morphed into a nightmare called political correctness; shame has been stripped from society, and replaced with the idea that everyone is a victim.
There aren't anymore pedophiles today than there were forty years ago. The difference is that today, kidtouchers aren't afraid they're going to end up face down in a swamp somewhere. They can instead look forward to rehabilitation, a guarantee that they're going to get another chance. Getting pregnant doesn't mean you're sentenced to losing your childhood and a life of difficulty, you just have a quick procedure; problem solved. Thieves aren't really to blame, it isn't their fault that they weren't born with the same advantages as the person they took from....... It goes on forever.
Modern communications have simply helped to normalize abnormal behaviour. Personal responsibility is gone from our society. I'm not a religious guy, but there is going to be a reckoning. Soon. There is no alternative, we have reached a point where we don't even take responsibility for feeding ourselves anymore. That is the essence of unsustainability.
While I strongly believe that TPTB are well served by mind numb robots eating take out food and glued to TV's, I do agree with the flip side of my argument that we are being fed what we have asked for. Nothing breeds apathy like a fat stomach, Bud Light and 106 channels of cable.
Did you look at the interactive map of unrest that was put up the other day? Look across the world and see what's happening. Did you notice the two ironic/satirical events in the U.S.? MacDonalds may have to raise prices, and Starbucks is booming. Contrast that with people rioting because the increase in the price of grain is eating up 20+ % of an income that wasn't enough to survive on in the first place. What do you suppose the percentage of Americans are that understand (or try to anyway, I have a pretty full stomach too) what life outside the Skittle and Rainbow universe we live in is really like?
Party on Garth. (America)
+ 1335 on all points colonel.
US citizens are not looking for truth. They want factoids to support their line of thinking. It is much more different.
Why you might see more people looking for alternative sources to feed them with factoids? Because they are living a life of disconnection between themselves and the rest of the US citizens.
The great US machine is no longer working for them. The MSM target meaningful people, the ones for whom the machine still works. Because they are the ones who are going to vote as exclusion in the US translates into rejection of the two parties and no longer casting a vote.
The MSM serves what people who are still in wants to hear. They largely prefer to see Charlie Seen enjoying the US way of life than news that might question their way of life and its sustainability.
The other US citizens, the ones who are been tossed out of the bowl, are looking for factoids supporting their view that the machine got corrupted, explaining therefore why they are no longer part of it.
The very idea that the US machine has reached the end of the rope in their case, that the machine can no longer support them and include them is odious to them.
In the US, the information is secure the most efficient way you can imagine because the information is public and people know the information but prefer propaganda over it.
The MSM sells propaganda to a public that demands it. It is mutually beneficiary. People in the US want to believe, they want to forget they know.
People who ignore this reality and live in the US might endanger their life.
Hey Mako, good to see you back.
Good post.
I have not watched one minute of the daily show in months and months. And I just watched a show. Total waste of time. No edge, no spine.
I couldn't be more succinct. Bravo!
Who would've dreamed 20-30 yrs. ago that you would have to tune in to RT and Al Jazeera news to find out whats going on.
Or, if you can find a Sorta Conservative UK source, they give out more true news than the US media.
Unless of course its about the USA.
In retrospect no surprise. Just think where we would be without the Web.
That is because this is an Ameican sponcerd overthrow according to the Drudge. So it's not good business to reveal the businesss of America. But I am sure it will be on the evening news/progamming.
on Fri, 01/28/2011 - 10:04
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Who would've dreamed 20-30 yrs. ago that you would have to tune in to RT and Al Jazeera news to find out whats going on.
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No shit, right? after 9-11... if you would have said I would be an Al Jazeera supporter... I would have shot you. now? look at me!
Kinda scary how shit goes full circle isn't it?
I know you agree.. and if you or I walked in where we eat breakfast and told them to change the channel, people would want to know what body snatcher / brain washing we had suffered... not any more!
This morning.. I had them change the channel, thusly there are a few more people watching things that I have seen and they dont like it any more than I do.
People should be Free, everywhere!
Fucking a-1's parked around the city? against the people.. we need to air drop those people some TOW's.
Thing is, I'm still waiting (probably hoping naively) that the military is going to side with the people. Shit, they just showed protesters standing on top of APC's and cheering. Mombaruk is maybe weak enough that the army understands where their bread is buttered.
Plus, with all the rumors that Mombaruk has fled already, maybe the army is just sitting around waiting with the rest of them for the announcement to see who their new boss really is before they decide what they're going to do.
We'll see. Interesting times.
Same hope for the USA. Still waiting to see if our generals will oust the banksters.
never happen--the crowd is a) too PC, b) been weeded out for many years, and c) can't organize outside of DoD structure.
- Ned
who uses the most oil?
military.
keep the people fat, dull, undereducated and totally insecure! and you to can have a nation of 300MIL overweight future cancer patients...that's worth a lot of money.
Oh right. Mubarak as preventer of Chaos, as opposed to Western/Zio monkeyboy. Yes, that is highly credible.
Brush your teeth, your hasbara breath is just awful.
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ORI
that's what google is for.
I think he meant to say, Biden said the dictator had nice teeth...I dunno, sometimes I can't understand Biden either, I could be wrong ;-)
Funny Nm. :-) Biden, not that man has a scary set of chompers, if I ever saw one.
ORI
Fangs are useful when you get cornered.
I see your point. But respectfully. The Native American trade has been executed! Years ago. I do like your post's. Keep them Fresh.
There is not anyway the people can find decent leadership? Maybe it is that I am nieve, but if they are looking for an uprising, maybe they will find their way?
the pyramid scheme is falling at the pyramid
How fitting eh?
ORI
No one cares!
Ben is at home not evening thinking about his QE(s).
He is sipping his coffee and gracefully spending time with his family. Just like 90% of every other American does on a Sunday afternoon.
Democracies can fall another day
El Baradei is nothing more than a UN puppet.
The UN is nothing more than another tentacle of the NWO.
The Egyptian people should shun this man.
From what I read, they are shunning him. He had this triumphant return planned to take control of the revolution, and no one showed up at the airport to greet him.
Per Fox News, he's now under house arrest. Wouldn't cry if they shot him.
"El Baradei is nothing more than a UN puppet."
Couple things:
1. Uhhh, who isn't?
2. Mr. El Baradei showed grande cojones in refusing to knuckle under to extreme Western/Zio pressure about Iraq's non-existent "WMDs"
Seems to me he'd be more independent of mind and likely more concerned with actual Egyptian interests than monkeyboy Mubarak.
C'mon, 'fess up: Isn't THAT what's really bothering you about him?
Mr. El Baradei did stand up to Western Pressure on the Iraqi Nuke question, that was principled and courageous, in similar circumstances would have Obama or any other Western leader done the same? Not if it wasn't written in the script I think. That is, I have no doubt, the objection our poster friend has to Baradei- Who knows what havoc a principled man, working off script, might cause before it was possible to assassinate him? No- No! Let us find a reliable actor who understands, and fears, the consequences of deviation from the official script!
Let us find a reliable actor who understands, and fears, the consequences of deviation from the official script!
I know. I know. Timothy Geithner? Tax Cheat. FRBNY corrupt pres. Yet, only he could be Treasury Sec.
Hey Sparkey, that's my other name. Where'd you get that?
if they move too quick
oh way oh
they're falling down like a domino
fuck hillary clinton(what she sayin about egypt), burn mubarak out of town, violence is the only way, revolution will someday come to america, its way over due
I seriously doubt it. I think you are being far too cynical. This isn't according to anyone's plan, and the outcome can't be worse than the current situation.
I find it difficult to believe Egypt is a spontaneous event and not organized by the Islamic terrorist wing. War on Israel without Egypt would be difficult. Trading a moderate dictator for Sharia "freedom" is not, IMHO, an improvement and quite distant from the ideals that supposedly sparked this "revolution".
Yes. The propaganda machine is alive and well. Wolf Blitzer is on the job, a bit late, of course, but looking good in his perfectly tailored suit and manicured face while he reads his script to the sheeple.
Blow you harmonica, son.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiVFfOOm_GI
The "brotherhood" will do all it can to exploit it.
Maybe a Turkish type constitution?...ahhh never mind.
Ok this is so off topic but I couldn't resist.
U know how banks offer $100 to open a checking account? I always wondered how they would stay in business?
Now Imagine when the dollar collaspes, maybe the chip is ready for us? Now Imagine if they offered $5,000 to the first takers of the chip?
How many sheeeple will promptly accept the chip.
Generally, you get the $100 if and only if you put much more in the account; think of it as an inverted "pigeon drop" scam.
Mohamed ElBaradei, the self-proclaimed leader of the protests and who the MSM is already proposing may be the next president, is on the Board of Directors of the International Crisis Group – a globalist think tank run by Zbigniew Brzezinski and George Soros.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/
George Soros is on the executive committee of the International Crisis Group:
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board.aspx
Senior Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski:
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board/crisis-group-senior-advisers.aspx
Can we please see 1000 comments?
Whos gonna be #1000?
ya, I'm hangin' 'round for that as well.
Wonder what the max no. has been.
Also wonder at the "volume" is on the 1-hour chart.
Hillary may need to take lessons from Kevin Bacon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro
Timmy Geithner: read and laugh.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110128-704050.html
The egyptians are "feeling some pressure" alright. Thr pressure of the water cannons.
"Well, the rifleman's stalking the sick and the lame
Preacherman seeks the same, who'll get there first is uncertain
Nightsticks and water cannons, tear gas, padlocks
Molotow cocktails and rocks behind every curtain
False-hearted judges dying in the webs that they spin
Only a matter of time 'til the night comes stepping in"
Dylan has his moments. And when he does, ya gotta love it.
One has to wonder where he parks his space ship every morning
What timmah said is absolutely correct. He said they could all solve their inflation problems by loosening their pegs. Finally timmah is listening to me.
I found a list of 17 currencies that are pegged to the USD.
It should also be reminded that countries trying to acquire gold/Euro/Yen or stuff like that are losening their link to the USD through diversification. So far, the accusation of pegging currency is a posteriori observation. Countries that go through troubles go through because of an alledged peg to the dollar. Of course, that could not be because of the US monetary action, irrespectively for peg or not peg. So provide a list of pegged currencies so that predictions can be made before observation.Some folks confuse a country's sterilization/non-sterilization activities with 'pegging'
Sweet - tough choice of where to spend gold after the dollar implodes Aruba or Belize
Ok I'm going to humor you. Every ACB in the Europe trade is your candidate. (Asian Central Banks)
The market should rally on this news.
That's why the inventory build up is so important. Lots of things will need to be replaced after all the worldwide looting, burning, and general desctruction.
A "revolution" can never triumph in a country like Egypt if it's a "middle class revolution". The only chance a revolution like this can have is if the poor masses from the poor districts of Cairo join the protests, and the working class launches a general strike. The revolution in Tunisia only could triumph because the trade unions and the working poor from the peripheric neighborhoods of Tunis joined the fight. In contrast, the "middle class revolution" on Iran has failed, before the passivity of the working poor masses.
Despite the constant LameStreamMedia propaganda, I'm sure the Iranians can take care of themselves. Iranians did toss the Shah and the SAVAK, his secret police, and that wasn't too long ago. Now, in 'Merica, if you must talk about passivity...
Passivity? Next weekend there will be more broken homes than any other, and this because of a stinkin' football game. You call that passive? I think the word you are looking for is DISPLACED....or complacency. America is not passive, except to be passive-aggressive. Way too many steroids in the food for that to happen.
Yr barkin up the wrong tree on that remark. I work out everyday and Like Veggies. I'm still Republican though. But I can see the ocean from my house.
Ah. Another proponent of the dictatorship of the nomenklatura.
Why? Because I said the obvious truth? No matter how much the "middle class" cry and scream, the fact is that the middle class is weak, and can't do a victorious revolution alone, any place on Earth.
Except America circa 1776, I suppose
The Middle class revolts when taxes go up or their cell phone service rates increase or anything else that makes them darn tootin' mad. Then they go home.
The poor revolt when their babies are starving. This is when ugly raises it head.
Bangles release new song....
Run Like an Egyptian......
+1
You mean the Green Bay vs Pittsburgh spread?
What happens to the suez canal and Israel when the muslim brotherhood comes to power?
Hard to say, since the Muslim Brotherhood is not the leadership of the protests, and will not come to power...
Not sure about the Suez, but Israel will be laughing their asses off.
Exactly the opposite, I think. A new government probably won't be nearly as tolerant of them and probably won't be a puppet of the US. Also, the shining example of a Middle Eastern "democratic" government in Egypt will be shown to be the non-representative farce it actually is.
But it's the non-representative farce we know...
Am I out of line here to suggest that the U.S. at least doesn't really care about the Suez Canal. Isn't that the main sea trade link between Asia and Europe? Stuff from Asia to the U.S. goes East not West. Do oil tankers go through the Suez on their way to the U.S.
China is building a high speed rail from Chongqing to Germany that will cut sea trade time in half. I think it should be done in about the next 8-10 years.
Right, super tankers are too large and can't use the Suez; they have to go around South Africa. I think I read that some of the newest container ships being built by Maersk are also to large to go thru the Suez.
Still, the American Empires' Navy controls all of the high seas and the Suez is part of its purview.
They will never be allowed to control it, they ahve nto go thru China first.
It's not going to happen. Egypt is not like Palestine.
CNN is covering this heavily in real time as well.
Thank you ZH.
Amazing that they said the "Christian Egyptians said they will protect the Muslims from the Police".. Amazing solidarity.
Sure hope they remember who stood with them when this ends.
They'll be slaughtered anyway. And the West will do nothing, as usual.
I take it you guys haven't been following the news. There have been attacks against the Egyptian Christian community in recent months, and a large number of Muslims came forward to serve as human shields to protect Christian services over Christmas. The Christians are now reciprocating.
I guess only time will tell if that was more than a PR stunt.
I do not believe it is. I take heart at the notion that people are figuring out that their differences have been exploited because it suits TPTB.
The mere act of people from two different religions standing together to defeat oppression is IMHO, monumental.
It is similar to right/left ZHers finding common ground on issues where both parties would have previously said none existed.
+1
Never going to accept dhimmi status, and that seems baked into that pie.
Some things are non-negotiable.
the gathering of people can be real...
the people being pissed is real...
who will stick whos face in front of the people afterward? thusly the people will flock too?
its not hard, its not even a challenge to manage people... and that can not be the peoples fault they are doing all they can do now.
Okay. I've ruminated on this for hours.
I still have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
Care to elaborate?
the gathering of people can be real... <--- real pissed off people can gather...
the people being pissed is real... <----- the peoples anger can be real enough...
who will stick whos face in front of the people afterward? thusly the people will flock too? <---- who does CNN / CNBC / Faux News March out infront of us or them on the the TV.. Minus any clear leadership? thusly whomever the people are saturated with, whatever seeds that are planted would take root.
its not hard, its not even a challenge to manage people... and that can not be the peoples fault they are doing all they can do now. <---- just by giving someone face time, the business interests can be protected, thusly the people fucked... the people dont control who is on TV or who was allowed to be on TV in Egypt.
this could be come a shell game, based on no leadership.. real leadership in place in Egypt.
Sorry, I was kinda short... but I aint real smart to begin with.. so please bro feel free to grade me on a curve.. lol
Common ground on immoral banking/FIAT, controlled media, manipulated markets, corrupt leadership everywhere...
Re-Set Button!
Push Back!
EveryWHERE!
+10
well said. This is what ugly leaders do best
Beautiful. I agree.
Why is it the job of the West to save them? And if we do, we'll be reviled as imperialists.
They can save themselves, or not be saved.
It's not. But do realize that the West was happy to take it as their job to f*ck Egypt up in the first place. Nationalist and pan-Arab Leader Gamel Abdul Nasser had them on the right track to a happy and sustainable future. So of course he had to go. Just another well-timed coronary, completely coincidental. Pay no mind to that whole cui bono thingy.
I guess even mild old Anwar Sadat wasn't compliant enough to Western/Zio interests, so he, too had to go. They had their murderous "Muslim Brotherhood" (read: our masonic cousins Living Their Mission in the ME), bump him off. Nice broad daylight hit.
Hosni Mubarak was the pick. With him they finally got the whole package. Complete tyrant, enthusiastic traitor to his own, utterly corrupt and devoid of an ounce of moral fiber. Yup, he's our guy.
Monkeyboy Mubarak kept the lid on a simmering pot, but that has apparently run its course. Whatever now emerges in Egypt, be honest enough to realize the West and Israel now get to deal with the unintended consequences of their selfish, murderous policy of oppression and economic strangulation of ordinary Egyptians.
Good on ya Egypt, kick all the scumbags out of Egypt. Then come to the USA to show us how it's done.
We seem to have forgotten how to deal with the tyrants and parasites infesting us here.
when we start getting beat in the street, I'm sure they'll return your favor
and remember, our job is only to save those who have oil
Amazing the show of Christian love in the face of death and persecution & forgiveness, as the Egyptian muslims have been murdering Christians,destroying their churches, the the last few months to the point they were leaving.
DosZap, are you really Joe Biden? Like you, he too is a fan of ethnic cleansing of historicly Muslim territories. He also enjoys the associated looting of America that makes the ongoing ethnic cleansing possible. Joe obviously gets paid for his troubles. If you're not Joe, then what's your excuse? Why the extensive time, effort and big hard-on for Israeli causes from a self-described non-Jew?
Egypt - The world supports you and admires your courage. The "Fourth Turning" seems to have clearly begun. Great book...
Not the least bit of irony in the US facing its own suez crisis
SRDII:
You meant fomenting, right?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/828...
and I wonder how extensive these efforts have been? Lotta' community-organizing going on.
- Ned
I presume Egypt has the same problem as most other countries.
A small rich minority own most of it (land, stocks, bonds) They collect the rent, dividends and coupons. They are under-taxed so they get to keep most of it. When another middle class person folds, the rich buy up their land, stocks and bonds, and collect even more rent, dividends, coupons from their slave work force.
And so it goes on relentlessly. The rich getting richer, the middle class disappearing. The poor getting ever poorer.
Eventually it snaps when the poor can't even afford food any longer and they have nothing to lose. That's what we are seeing.
Snapping here soon.
Here? In Amerika? No way! Our "poor" live like kings comparably. They have EVERYTHING to LOSE if the government collapses...who do you think supports them? The poor of other countries really ARE poor...getting practically nothing from the government. No, our "leaders" made sure they'd be "needed" forever...
Astute observation....apparantly, the revolution WILL be televised....in the middle east ,anyway.
Spot on. As long as the poor in the U.S. have smart phones, cable TV, Xboxes, and SNAP cards there are no worries.
Europe differs, how?
Yeah? Well wait until they turn off your internets.......then see how long the people sit back and snore.
Internet porn will still be allowed into homes for sedation purposes.
already custom embedded in the user-mind, internet no longer required.
Per the progressive god Alinsky, you can only have a successful revolution after a reformation, meaning as you said, the people realize they have nothing to loose by overthrow and everything to gain. We're on that relentless march here but I'm still seeing a lot of new SUV sales so it's business as usual. As a side note, the god Alinsky says without a reformation, a revolution can only end two ways: (1) in failure (2) tyranny. That looks more possible to me at this time than revolution.
If this isn't a US-sponsored "Orange Revolution," then this is REALLY big! The reason being is that Egypt is a big recipient of US foreign aid. And, if one looks around you can see that the US doesn't like to see its recipients unstable.
U.S. Foreign Aid TOP RECIPIENT COUNTRIES
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm
$50 billion later, taking stock of US aid to Egypthttp://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0412/p07s01-wome.html
Short defense contractors!
Great link for the foreign aid recipients. I just said on the GW piece that Egypt is #2 in the world, not just the ME.
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Watch others try various ways to refute this established fact.
Intel op on the prolls hoping for spillover into iran after first Twit failure? Meanwhile Iran planning a naval base in Lebanon
Maybe Cam Ranh Bay 2?
Funny how Libya strikes a deal with BP last year, then magically the states closest to the Gulf of Sidra experience civil unrest.
Hehehe. Like I have been saying, a lonely troll crying out in the wilderness, it is either riots and revolution or end your fucking dollar pegs now. Buwahahaha! China riots soon!
Better to provide a list of pegged nations so it can hold value.
Funny you're being junked for asking for data. Oh yeah, I forgot. Facts don't matter anymore.
list is up-thread
In their attempts to shut down the internet, it's interesting to watch our controlled media blame Twitter and social media for the throngs of rioters that assemble instantaneously. What do others suppose will happen if Twitter instead "tweets" only a thousand armed Americans?
Interesting times, indeed.
Won't somebody please think of Israel..
I just did. Hope it helps.
Is it a doctorate in Stockholm Syndrome then Sandi? With a minors in self-loathing and Jewish bigotry?
You hope it helps what exactly?
I hope it helps you figure out a way to fuck yourself with a medium-sized electric chainsaw. Plug it in first or you won't be able to do what needs to be done.
Nice. Can I borrow it sometime? The line, not the saw. Eeew.
Eeew. I'd like that chainsaw, please.
ABR - please don't conflate opposition to the pariah state, the little one, not the big one, with Jewish bigotry. The whole Zionist project looks on track to be a disaster for the world in general, but the Jewish people in particular.
This has all happened before. Many Jews are opposed.
This revolution was obviously caused by snow. I can't actually see the snow in the video, but I am sure that was the spark.
<Golf Clap>
feed has been shut down
aaand it's back
Remember when CNN showed the world and the Russians Boris Yeltsin standing on an army tank and giving his speech? In those days CNN was the news network. Today, we all watch Al Jazeera, when we can.
The fact that a news network out of Qatar is a lot more informative than anything that you can find in the United States says a lot about the situation around here. And no, you cannot find Al Jazeera on cable TV. Cable companies refuse to add it to their line up. Idiocracy is closer than you think.
Actually, CNN has spent about a third of their air time this morning covering Egypt. It's the day's big story.
Cnn is stupid news for stupid people.
people are commenting on twitter and texting being shut down/disrupted as if nothing happened in the world before the fucking internet and cell phones were invented. jesus...get a grip.
I'll have you know the French Revolution never could have happened without those old-fashioned hand-cranked cellphones they all carried.
lol! +100
One can only hope that TPTB shut down texting and twitter in the States. Perhaps Americans will then be prompted to the streets.
LOL...it's like everything old is new again!
@johngerard
You're right of course, though you have to admit that current telecom is a very useful tool, and would be sorely missed if 'shut down'.
Good morning Suez!
Rumors, musings and other tidbits trickling through an internet blackout (censorship):
-El Baradei is clearly a US pawn/agent, advancing himself as a 'candidate' for a new (pro-West, pro-US) government. No surprise. He also thought Iraq was loaded with WMD. His backers undoubtedly have a simple plan: spread some gravy around, buy publicity and favors, come off as a 'healer' and 'law and order' candidate, then Egypt can resume business as usual with ;gradual' social reforms.
-The Kuwait government has been offered $5,000 per citizen as 'relief' in order to pre-empt unrest. (Source, CNBC)
Egypt should have Rahm Emanuel run for President if they want a CIA stooge. I am sure he could find a way onto the ballot.
Do you ever get the idea the Peace Prize has become the POS Prize?
To me El Baradei stepping in is way too coincidental. He arrived from London, no doubt after a quick lecture from his master's in the City of London.
I hope the good people of Egypt toss his ass out too.
pods