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Forget the irrelevant inventory accumulation... pardon... GDP number. The real news today is coming from Egypt, where history is currently being made and a regime is in the process of being overthrown despite the unprecedented country-wide internet shutdown. The fallout from today's riots will be momentous. Follow all the news in real time from Al Jazeera.

 

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Sat, 01/29/2011 - 13:51 | 916220 Suisse
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Oh great, just another genocidal loon.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 14:09 | 916265 downwiththebanks
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Oh great, just another genocidal loon.

Says Ariel Sharon, just before he pissed and shit himself...

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 14:50 | 916373 Shylockracy
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unjunked.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 14:41 | 916339 bunkermeatheadp...
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Israel is sitting very quiet right now. And why wouldn't they be?

The Egyption revolution has cast a spotlight on how the U.S. pours billions of dollars a year to Israel and it's dictatorial muslim neighbors just so that Israel can exist.

Artificially suppressing political self-determination with the infusion of US dollars is just like artificially inflating the stock market with Fed funny money with one inevitable outcome, the creation of bubbles.

The Israel bubble will inevitably burst, just like the stock market bubble.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 14:42 | 916340 bunkermeatheadp...
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Egyption=Egyptian

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:14 | 915989 ciscokid
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Its always ends like this.

Because "We The People" have the power.

 

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:42 | 916055 born2bmild
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I thought it was a joke but no. Mubarak to Tel Aviv:

http://aljazeera.com/news/articles/39/Mubaraks-planning-exile-to-Tel-Avi...

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:50 | 916071 Aristarchan
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It makes sense, since Mubarak has been on the Mossad payroll for years, and his appointed VP - Suleiman, is close to the Israeli gov. It also appears that the Saudis refused to grant him asylum.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 00:45 | 917382 1223pm
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Caution every one!!!  This aljazeera is not the real Al-Jazeera from Qatar.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 00:50 | 917391 Aristarchan
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For the original, go to www.aljazeera.net, and hit the English tab.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:48 | 916068 Aristarchan
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Rich neighborhoods in Cairo being looted by thugs with clubs and knives. Not a good time to be upper crust....

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:53 | 916076 downwiththebanks
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This must have been what Mubarak was meeting about.

"Send out the agent prococateurs, Omar, and I'll name you VP." 

NOW Hosni's got his pretext to kill protestors en masse!  Just like New Orleans:  "gun down the 'looters'!" 

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:53 | 916077 born2bmild
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Maybe the poorer neighborhoods were looted long long ago.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:57 | 916091 downwiththebanks
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Capitalism does so every day.

 

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 12:57 | 916088 Aleedsfella
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Research has led to the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second to take from four days to four years to complete.Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2- 6 years; It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganisation will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 13:16 | 916136 YHC-FTSE
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+1. Leeds Uni has a good fencing team - it's not the only thing they're good at, I see.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:12 | 916974 TuesdayBen
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I have since the age of 16 been forced to purchase Gubmintium.  Can't stand the stuff - it is fatty and smells bad and just sits there jiggly and blobby.  Stuff is no good for nothing.  Poor folks suck it up and it ruins them.  I live in DC and the repulsive, skanky shit is absolutely everywhere in this town.  In fact, the main manufacturing plant is right across the river from me, in the District.  The CEO as of two years ago is this gangly doofus, hired out of some faculty lounge.  Got a lotta big, pie-in-the-sky, dumbass ideas  Guy fucking loves Gubmintium, actually thinks it makes peoples' lives better!!  Crap has killed tens of millions of innocents in just the past century, but this fool wants everyone to gorge on even more of it....

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:31 | 916992 Cathartes Aura
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brilliant first post!  welcome to the fray.

Leeds also home to the Gang of Four, guitars! still going strong. . .

from the past: "To Hell With Poverty!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPJHQmJAiKA

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 16:15 | 916566 PeterSchump
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The Bernank is trying to export the U.S. depression via inflation.  It looks like it is starting to work.  One by one he is taking out the emergings, with the weakest falling first.  While this may benefit the U.S. economically in the short term, the policital effects are greatly unknown and, therefore, dangerous.  If the contagion spreads to Asia proper, we will know he has completely succeeded.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 16:44 | 916630 bunkermeatheadp...
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The spotlight on the US funding of despots couldn't come at a better time.

Rand Paul has been calling for an end to all foreign aid.

Of course, the special interests called his approach "misguided"

The AP article is here:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jl6gViRL5ewCkB3FfQqPDt...

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:43 | 917036 Cathartes Aura
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when Rand Paul revises his stance on female body integrity - the government has zero authority to legislate human body rights, amirite libertarians?? - then I'll maybe re-think my stance on his seeming political opportunism.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 21:51 | 919020 Cathartes Aura
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yeah, junks with no rebuttals, eh lads? look me up when you "find" some. . .

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 17:23 | 916697 dwdollar
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The Egyptions need to step it up a notch and show the army who is boss.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 18:07 | 916776 chindit13
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For many years we have all watched the US export its manufacturing base and its jobs to other nations.  We have watched the American people hand over a large portion of their wealth and power to a self-selected few whose avarice is unlimited and whose arrogance is unbound.

Now we can see that America also exported its once innate thirst for freedom and liberty, which is now a trait possessed by the people of Egypt and Tunisia, and perhaps soon in other countries where hunger is both real and immediate.

While we watch and learn what real courage is, we remain content to let our betters continue to rob us of our wealth and piss on our freedoms and our democracy, just so long as they provide the occasional bread and circus for us.

We brag about our guns, have delusional fantasies about our courage, and secretly hope for more chaos---far from us---so our PM's can soar in value and make us feel adequate.

In the final analysis, however, history is not ours, nor is dignity.  We will continue to sit back and allow the continued rape of our present and future by the self-serving few---the bankstas and their paid help known as government---daring not to risk the petty comfort allowed us by our betters, and too easily pacified by a few bobbles and the occasional grand show.

We have ceased to be men.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 18:35 | 916825 Sad Sufi
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+100

You have to admire the courage of the average person in Egypt, who goes out and shows his views.  It is about courage and dignity.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:15 | 917092 Dr. Sandi
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You have to admire the courage of the average person in Egypt, who goes out and shows his views.  It is about courage and dignity.

The Egyptians understand voting with your feet!

 

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 19:42 | 916935 New_Meat
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chindit: I've loved your posts, but back off and get a spine:

"We have ceased to be men."

Please speak for yourself in this discussion.

I'm nay recognizing any "betters" ('cuz there are 'good-as' and 'need improvement').  But Humans are Humans.

"... nor is dignity ... "

I'll hold my dignity to myself, and carry it with me to the end.

I don't know who the "we" is in your post, just ain't anyone I associate with.

- Ned

[and yes, prepositions are bad words to end a sentence with].

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:20 | 917434 bunkermeatheadp...
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The times that try men's souls is not upon us, yet.

Remember, even the American Revolutionaries stayed under British rule for generations.

The founding fathers were past middle age when they finally rebelled against England, after a decade of publishing their grievences towards the Crown in their local papers.

Revolution is always preceded by talk.

As for the "Greatest Generation", they did not rise up against the bankers in the 1930's even though their banker caused plight was more severe than what we are presently feeling today.

Don't try to call who are men (and who are not) until the moment that separates the men from the boys actually happens.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:52 | 917809 Founders Keeper
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[The times that try men's souls is not upon us, yet.]---bunkermeatheadp...

Agreed.

I wouldn't be too hard on Chindit13. He is likely grappling with his own anger, fear and anxiety. Seeing the tv images of Egyptian protesters makes one question one's beliefs. What do I really believe? Do I have the courage of my convictions? Are my convictions sound? How do I balance doing what's right against the things I risk losing?

The protestors in Egypt are displaying great courage. The protest is coming after decades of severe oppression, to put this in perspective.

(For those of you new to the threat of social unrest in the US, take note of the events in Egypt. Note the cascading shut down of electronic communication, replacing police force with military, curfews cutting off citizens in the city center from returning to their homes, rubber bullets changing to lead bullets, gangs freeing prisoners, homes suffering night time home invasions, family members taking watch shifts through the night, etc.)

Please also consider what may be different if/when this level of social unrest visits the US. You won't, for example, be able to sneak your family onto a flight bound for London where they can step off the plane, sigh in relief, and enjoy a nice glass of wine under a flat screen airport monitor tuned to CNN.

By the time this level of unrest hits the US, there won't be any safe place in the world to go. This is the last stand, folks.

 

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 19:39 | 916931 buzzsaw99
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VIVA EGYPT BITCHEZ!

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:33 | 917027 topcallingtroll
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This is a great example of complex systems having emergent unpredictable properties and being sensitive to initial conditions.  Who would have thought when that policeman dumped over that poor man's vegetable cart in Tunisia that it would ignite the Arab world?  Does anyone know that guy's name who first burned himself in Tunisia?  Can we set up a fund to take care of his family and build a small shrine at his house?  He was a hero and never knew it.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:35 | 917029 topcallingtroll
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I am serious.  Let's do something for that guy's family if we can find out who he was.  a thousand dollars would go a long way in tunisia to take care of his widow and his kids if he has any.  Maybe TD could do an article on the guy

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:58 | 917065 New_Meat
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top-troll:

" He was a hero and never knew it...."

maybe a hero, maybe stuff happens, I'd doubt that his actions were intentional, therefore no "hero" although certainly brave.

Harvey and others have had significant lectures (to me) on this.

- Ned

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 22:43 | 917252 CD
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His name is Robert Paulson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 20:47 | 917045 putbuyer
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Now you see. Sarah Palin who is not one of the elites  - is the best chance we have to save this country. Get over it and believe it. Not smart? smart enough. We do not need another Harvard PhD. We do need a president who can put .44 between the eyes of a terrorist.

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/17039m3_ts.JPG?cell=300,300&cvt=...

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:20 | 917098 Dr. Sandi
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I hope you're making a funny. Judging from the pictures of her last big kill, the only way Sarah can put a .44 between the eyes of a terrorist is if she's aiming for his ass and has lots of opportunity and ammo.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:29 | 917128 Aristarchan
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And is really close........

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:49 | 917958 bunkermeatheadp...
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Why oh why do you accuse Sarah of these blood libels?

 

j/k

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:10 | 917080 Aristarchan
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I see no conceivable scenario that allows Mubarak to remain in Egypt.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:19 | 917100 Dr. Sandi
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I see at least one. But it involves a six foot hole in the ground.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:28 | 917123 Aristarchan
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That is conceivable....but I figure, like Martin Bormann, Mubarak has a finely-tuned escape plan. Of course, his plan could be like Saddam's, be found in a hole, and end up in a hole.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:25 | 917117 Aristarchan
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But, if Mubarak does get asylum in Israel, that is going to ramp up the tension between the two countries. Even if Mubarak has been on Mossad's payroll for years, and has been relatively friendly with the Israelis, it is hard for me to understand why they would take him in. Even if they think they have a deal for a palatable successor (Suleiman), the Egyptian people will see it as a deal with the devil to trade one US/Israeli puppet for another. It is difficult to see how this all works out without serious unintended consequences. Remember the shit that came down after the Shah of Iran showed up in the US. And, despite the seemingly senile endorsement of Mubarak by the Saudi King, you can bet your ass that Prince Bandar is working overtime to see that Mubarak does not show up in that particular sandbox, and with his high-level contacts with the US military and government, he can - and has many times in the past - hold sway. If Mubarak goes to Israel, it will almost have to be a transition locale on his way to some other place....possibly Libya, as unlikely as that seems, or maybe....yes, the US...if it could be spun that the US is taking Mubarak off the Egyptian people's hands for the good of their own country. You can bet that some serious multi-country negotiations are going on right now.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:32 | 917130 New_Meat
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"But, if Mubarak does get asylum in Israel,..."

what?

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:34 | 917136 Aristarchan
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Several news sources are reporting that. One source was the Egyptian Embassy in Tel Aviv.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:35 | 917137 Aristarchan
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ZH has also posted it on Twitter from an Aljazeera source.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:42 | 917149 New_Meat
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I'm with the under, nfw

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:46 | 917157 Aristarchan
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It sounds weird to me as well.....but it could be part of a deal to make sure Israel gets their choice of successors...stranger things have happened.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 00:34 | 917371 1223pm
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America and Israel both will not give asylum to Mubarak. America is no one's friend.

These dictator think since they are loyal to America And at the end will get rescued.

No, if you are not loyal to your country no one is your friend. After all America's relation with Egypt is important than friendship with a dictator. These dictator are nothing but toilet paper. 

Bin Ali from Tunisia was refused entry to France and USA. Another dictator from Saudi rescued him.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:29 | 917125 fedspeak
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http://chart.ly/3ohqo3c

Egypt may be the straw that broke the camels back as all indices seem to be turning quite negative.  Then again the Ben Bernank may have some more tricks up his sleeve. 

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:37 | 917139 HedgeFundLIVE
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The most devastating blow the Mubarak government has thrown was not tear gas and rubber bullets; it was shutting down the Internet.

http://www.hedgefundlive.com/blog/egypt-the-stock-market-and-yoga


Sat, 01/29/2011 - 21:54 | 917173 Aristarchan
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And, telling everyone he would be President for life, then his son would take over. That was the seed, Tunisia was the spark.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 22:24 | 917221 AssFire
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Funny, no statement from the President pressing for democracy there like the Iraq model??

Democracy is not so cool when the freedom fighters hate you (USA) because you supported a character like the Shaw for 30 years. Maybe speak out for Democracy throughout the Arab world in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, as well as Iran.. 

C'mon Barack, LEADER OF DEMOCRACY (lmao) give a shout out to your homies!

oh,

Then call out China for their human rights abuses then that should about do it.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 22:56 | 917264 onlooker
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The street is an interesting and sad story, but the story we don’t know is what intrigue is at play within the military and who will take over. With the soft actions of the military toward the citizens, a military coup seems the most likely outcome before the revolt spins into total anarchy. Military control before radical power structures can become effective. This has a possibility of ending well, depending upon who is chosen to lead.

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 23:43 | 917317 Misean
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Perhaps the military is angling for a king maker role ala Turkey...

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 23:28 | 917298 mynhair
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What the F is Twitter?

No one has heard of Skype?

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 23:44 | 917322 JackES
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I don't care at all.

Buy again when SPX drops around 10%

Sat, 01/29/2011 - 23:50 | 917329 BigDuke6
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May be a silly question but i aint american.

Why does the USA spend a fortune and look really bad for the sake of Isreal?

Its not a colony and doesn't seem very grateful. What gives??

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 00:27 | 917367 AssFire
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It is not us, it is our Jewish overlords who hijacked the country by dividing us. I don't know seems to me the Jews should be given a big chunk of Germany and maybe a Jewish Chancellor - then they could attone, like we are with Barack. What a fucked up situation.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:25 | 917441 1223pm
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Elephant is not responsible for damage inside the china shop.

It is the Jew riding on top of it.

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:34 | 917450 BigDuke6
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Why do people put up with it?  is it the bible christian sympathy with the jews?

thats gotta be wearing thin.

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 03:04 | 917510 bunkermeatheadp...
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Evangelical christians, and many other christian denominations, believe that instilling jews in Jerusalem will bring the second coming of Christ.

However, approval of US foreign policy based on religious prophecy is counter-intuitive for a country that prides itself on the separation of church and state.

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:26 | 917889 Randall Cabot
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About a hundred years ago the jews fronted some wackjob biblethumper named Scofield to make the new version of the Bible jew-friendly and he wrote a boatload of shit about it especially that if you support israel you'll get to heaven-it's all explained here:

http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 22:01 | 919041 Cathartes Aura
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However, approval of US foreign policy based on religious prophecy is counter-intuitive for a country that prides itself on the separation of church and state.

no, that's not true any more - amrka desires god in their officials now, for decades actually. . . even their new heroes must profess their loyalty - check Rand Paul.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:12 | 917422 Rodent Freikorps
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Arab governments need a bogey man to focus the prole's anger on, instead of their own corrupt selves.

It is the local version of blaming the great Satan. Lots of governments do it.

"You don't live in poverty because we mismanaged, or stole all the money. You live shitty lives because America stole it all. Yeah, that's the ticket. It is all America's fault. Death to America! Now get back to your hovels, and STFU."

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:02 | 917745 msjimmied
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And in America the message is the same, except for the Great Satan being the banks.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 22:06 | 919048 Cathartes Aura
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flip that coin:

"they hate us for our freedumbs!

now back to yer TV 'n' internet privileges before we cut 'em off!"

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:36 | 917451 Yen Cross
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 Lots of busy little beavers working this this tread. Very nice to see indeed!

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 01:54 | 917462 Money Squid
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You its funny, riots breakout in some country and the US President goes on tv and states that president should not use brute force, should uphold democracy, should do this and that - lectures other leaders about how to behave. Then, when the end is obvious the US President publicly that president's position is untenable and that he should give up power and walk away from his own country. When the shit hits the fan in the US, which world leader will call Obama and tell him its time to pack his bags and get the fuck out?  Hu Jintao?    "Herro Barrack, this is Hu, you owe me so much money, I have no faith you can pay me back. Get the fuck out!"

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 02:08 | 917468 Rodent Freikorps
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Iran would have to take him in. They owe him.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 02:18 | 917478 Money Squid
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That was supposed to start out with "You know....

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:25 | 917724 New_Meat
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I was thinking "Make no mistake..."

- Ned

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 02:25 | 917482 digalert
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I can't believe I'm watching Al Jazeera. This Mubarak/Egypt is a big deal, but you'd never know from our MSM. We in the US can rest assured that Obama and Billary have things under control...gag.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 02:31 | 917486 Misean
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The Kardashian sisters have a new reality TV show, and Charlie Sheen really likes blow and hookers...what more does one need to know?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 02:55 | 917501 Yen Cross
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 All I know is it's early. But I'm watching the interbank markets for tomorrows opening and, and it is quiet. I guess some would say. (normal) I'm any case, this is a blipp to Justify a healthy 10% pullback. Hey Apple is going straight to 1000 and Schmidt over @ Northern Trust or some one equivalent to invest his 100m, in Aerial Drones is the story for  the January month end close. Keep your eyes on flows and lots of earnings yet to come. I figure we finish Q4 REPORTS IN Q3. Just a little joke.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 03:15 | 917512 ivars
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What is most interesting is:

1) history in making
2) The process Egypt revolution following Tunisia is a model, step by step, how these informed middle class Internet coordinated revolutions will occur everywhere with minor deviations-unrest, denial, clashes, blackout of  SMS, mobile and Internet, cosmetic changes by regime, police and secrete service going rogue and trying to destabilize the situation so that people look back for "good" old days and rulers , people establishing militias for self protection, army not interfering or taking the side of the people, and finally, the dictator being ousted in one way or another, new popular transitional government, euphoria, reality of governing, splits , start of embryonic democracy with all the faults, old rulers partly returning to power under new guises after first 5 years of democracy bring disillusionment and some fatique( as happened in Russia in 2000) etc. 
3) reaction of Israel-Arabs not ready for democracy- sure they are not, but they have to start one day, as we started after the collapse of the Soviet Union- there is no other way to get "ready" for democracy other than starting one., and it takes tens of years, generation before it becomes a true democracy. You will never get "ready " sitting under a totalitarian regime.
4) USA completely taken by surprise and struggling to express any definite opinion ... Damaging to the USA image as advocate of democracy and human rights completely, e.g. in my eyes definitely. This is a moment someone clever in the USA can catch to play loudly against the USA elites ( and taking the risk of becoming a target for Mossad or even CIA)
5) China communists again scared out of their wits and suppressing coverage of events in Egypt - they do not want their middle class (100 million) or students  ( 36 million) get any idea which they anyway already harbor.
6) spreading of unrest via the Middle East and problems it creates for oil supply and Israel and, consequently the West. The local war in Middle East with Israel involvement is coming closer in leaps... But I still think not before Iran develops a credible nuke, say in 2014. Oil is on rise now for at least 2-3 years with spikes and drops, but the average will never again be below what we see today.

Exceptionally interesting, though scary as any change of such scale.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 06:28 | 917569 Yen Cross
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You mean Tatical Mushroom? Right?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:16 | 917862 1223pm
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We are watching all the signs of a super power going down. Opposing forces are stepping up and making their space. Same thing happened many times before in history. Fall of France gave birth to many African countries. British Empire is the mother of many states from Australia to India and recently demise of USSR caused Dozens of STANS. Now start counting and start one from Sudan.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 04:14 | 917538 ivars
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I simply suggest following Egyptian revolution on Aljazeera since I could not find adequate coverage neither on CNN nor other USA networks or BBC. This is the general model how all popular anti elite movements will evolve, again,the USA not being an exclusion if a double dip occurs- and now its obvious the we are heading for peak oil that may bring double dip to the USA and some other Western economies ( in UK, its already on its way with its 4th quarter GDP dropping), and in fact, slow down recovery everywhere.

Raising food and energy costs, started by FEDs exported inflation, now hit back with instability in the Middle East.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

What is most interesting is:
1) history in making
2) The process Egypt revolution following Tunisia is a model, step by step, how these informed middle class Internet coordinated revolutions will occur everywhere with minor deviations-unrest, denial, clashes, blackout of SMS, mobile and Internet, cosmetic changes by regime, police and secrete service going rogue and trying to destabilize the situation so that people look back for "good" old days and rulers , people establishing militias for self protection, army not interfering or taking the side of the people, and finally, the dictator being ousted in one way or another, new popular transitional government, euphoria, reality of governing, splits , start of embryonic democracy with all the faults, old rulers partly returning to power under new guises after first 5 years of democracy bring disillusionment and some fatique( as happened in Russia in 2000) etc.
3) reaction of Israel-Arabs not ready for democracy- sure they are not, but they have to start one day, as we started after the collapse of the Soviet Union- there is no other way to get "ready" for democracy other than starting one., and it takes tens of years, generation before it becomes a true democracy. You will never get "ready " sitting under a totalitarian regime.
4) USA completely taken by surprise and struggling to express any definite opinion ... Damaging to the USA image as advocate of democracy and human rights completely, e.g. in my eyes definitely. This is a moment someone clever in the USA can catch to play loudly against the USA elites ( and taking the risk of becoming a target for Mossad or even CIA)
5) China communists again scared out of their wits and suppressing coverage of events in Egypt - they do not want their middle class (100 million) or students ( 36 million) get any idea which they anyway already harbor.
6) spreading of unrest via the Middle East and problems it creates for oil supply and Israel and, consequently the West. The local war in Middle East with Israel involvement is coming closer in leaps... But I still think not before Iran develops a credible nuke, say in 2014. Oil is on rise now for at least 2-3 years with spikes and drops, but the average will never again be below what we see today.

Exceptionally interesting, though scary as any change of such scale.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 08:49 | 917623 PY-129-20
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Pakistan is a major concern. There were fights between loyalist and islamist army units in the past. There are around 80-120 nukes. While Pakistan has improved its control over its nuclear weapons in recent years, it is not clear if it has transitioned, either partially or fully, to requiring access codes to arm nuclear warheads. It does store its weapons disassembled, and key components are kept at different locations. However, the Islamist army factions have evidently managed to secure the key components required to completely arm a nuclear weapon. What is uncertain is whether access codes are needed, and if they are, whether the breakaway elements have them.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 06:39 | 917571 Yen Cross
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 I'm sitting on an unweighted DXY @ 78.29 with resistance in two close levels, on the 5hour chart. 79.14-79.37 on that decending trendline. Actually a short term channel. The top bollinger band is going to get pinged. But I really like the (short term) simple moving average cross overs coming up. There is a really good bull trendline arround 80. I'm long.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 06:54 | 917578 smeagol
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Al Jazeerah taken down by Egypt gov

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 07:32 | 917592 ivars
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Preparing to let some blood.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 08:01 | 917601 Atoyota
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Just thought I'd paste this (whole) from twitter:

 

Breaking News
orders 'suspension of operations of Al Jazeera'; cancels Qatar-based network's licenses - state media via Reuters 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Sun, 01/30/2011 - 08:36 | 917618 belsebub
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So, marketwise, what will happen tomorrow? Oil prices and commodities through the roof, stockmarkets to fall? Yields down and USD stronger. Or will it just be as just as usual, where robots buy the fuckin' dip? Any ideas?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:37 | 917923 Randall Cabot
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Robots buy the fuckin' dip.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 08:38 | 917619 belsebub
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So, marketwise, what will happen tomorrow? Oil prices and commodities through the roof, stockmarkets to fall? Yields down and USD stronger? Or will it just be as just as usual, where robots buy the fuckin' dip? Any ideas?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:05 | 917632 ivars
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Oil is definitely on its way up, how sharply, difficult to say, but until the Egyptian of crisis is brought to some resolution, it may reach 110-120 USD.

The rest is difficult to say, it depends what happens even today evening and night in Egypt. Situation is still unclear, there might be a crackdown as well, which will unleash terrible chaos all over the Middle East.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:56 | 917657 TonyV
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Oil up, gold up, USD up, Dow down. Other commodities may or may not go up.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:17 | 917637 Catullus
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Egyptian Army authorized to use live ammunition against the protestors.  Reported on Al Jazeera at 0815 US East coast time.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:23 | 917643 ivars
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I do not believe soldiers ( at least biggest part) are going to execute these orders. We have seen these "flower" revolutions in many places where the Army in the end shoots the dictator (e.g Chausesku case) .

 

There however will be security forces dressed as army that will be shooting to provoke dispute between the army on ground and protesters.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:24 | 917644 LoneStarHog
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THIS is why we have The Second Amendment !!!!!

This is ATTEMPTED MURDER by those who gave the order.  There should be an INTERNATIONAL ARREST WARRANT for their capture.

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 10:30 | 917678 Zina
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Second Amendment? I'm wondering here what would be the result of a confrontation of some Egypcian citizens armed with shotguns and semi-automatic pistols against the army soldiers armed with fully automatic machine guns, grenades, bazookas and armored tanks...

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 14:22 | 918041 snowball777
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cMIVNntHs

Some are better prepared than others...but the perps all went down in the end.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:22 | 917641 Twindrives
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Mubarak has ordered the military to use live ammunition on the protesters.  Probably at the behest of the CIA and Barack Obama who are getting increasingly desperate for resolution before the revolution impacts the ponzi U.S. economy propped up by the FED 's POMO.  Bring on DOW 6000 once the insurrections move into France.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:54 | 917654 Johnny Lawrence
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Watching Al Jazeera English...

 

Egyptian fighter jets being flown over the crowd in an effort to silence them.  Crowd only chants louder after the planes are gone.  F'in amazing.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 10:35 | 917682 Catullus
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That was really dramatic.  If only some Americans could have heard that on their 60" LCD screens with super surround sound theatres.  US news reporting sucks a giant one.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:14 | 917711 bunkermeatheadp...
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"US news reporting sucks a giant one."

Thats by design.  The elites hate a spotlight being placed on U.S. support of undemocratic regimes.

The U.S. MSM reports always start off their interviews with U.S. politicians with a set up like this "Egypt [Mubarak] has been the U.S. biggest ally in the mideast second only to Israel, what do you senator, think the implications of the protest might be for stability in the middle east"

The funny thing about this set up question is this, Egypt receives the biggest foreign aid from the U.S., second only to Israel.

Calling Egypt and Israel the U.S.'s closest allies in the middle east (because we give them billions of dollars each year) is as misguided as your buddy telling you he's in love with a stripper.

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 15:05 | 918159 Dr. Porkchop
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I've been glued to Al Jazeera, don't even waste your time turning on the US Media, unless you are just checking to see what the officially sanctioned reality currently is, for comparison purposes.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 09:58 | 917658 Johnny Lawrence
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From CNN's blog this morning:

– In Sudan, about 100 protesters at an university in Khartoum changed, "No to high prices, no to corruption" and "Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan together as one." Police forced students back to the university and closed the gates, but students came back out of the gates and threw bricks at officers.

The chain reaction continues...

How in the world does Bernanke sleep at night?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:07 | 917703 Twindrives
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How does Bernanke sleep?  With Obama on one side and Geithner on the other.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:20 | 917717 bunkermeatheadp...
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A Moolah - ge - Trois

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:23 | 917721 gaoptimize
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Got crowbar? Christiane Amanpour: "Bands of vigilantes out on Egypt's streets with wooden batons and pieces of metal". Obviously a gun-controlled country. It is like the first moments of the video game "Half-Life". Know this, if the American people ever take to the streets: There are ~250 million guns owned by private citizens in the US. The average gun owner owns 4 guns.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:47 | 917952 Randall Cabot
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But in America everybody will be shooting at everybody-there'll be so many factions you're head will spin.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 15:03 | 918154 cosmictrainwreck
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yup - and as the various gangs form up, coalesce & set turf, the natural outcome is regional warlords, bitchez. Not here, you say, that kinda shit is for Afghans? Well, don't quote me, but you heard it here first......

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 15:15 | 918181 Dr. Porkchop
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Think of it this way, in Iraq, when the insurgency started, what portion of the country was effectively controlled by the US Forces? Now think of the US, a population of over 250 million spread over a huge land mass. If things get dicey, I don't know if the Federal Government will be able to control the situation for very long. They'll very quickly become irrelevant. Control will be held at regional or levels or lower.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 16:13 | 918334 Dr. Sandi
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But in America everybody will be shooting at everybody-there'll be so many factions you're head will spin.

 

There are two kinds of people in this world. Heroes and survivors.

My chickenshit survivor faction will be keeping their heads low right here at home while the heroes battle for the trophy. We might have a 20 gauge or two by our side to help any visiting heroes choose to leave the porch either under their own power or with rocket-assist.

Don't be stoppin' by pretending you're the mailman. Normal times, nobody comes down here that we don't already know. Bad times, probably some of the ones we DO know still won't make it past our more heroic cop neighbors.

We're not going to be looking for trouble. Just quietly at home, making some chili out of our dried beans and spices. Maybe some rice pilaf. Canned chicken is okay with some homemade dumplings.

Steal our stuff and you're going to have to know how to cook it. No MREs here, my hungry heroes. Move along.

Maybe a hero or two will wander down our way in a looting mood. Maybe they know where we're holed up and they don't mind a deershot enema for getting too close. No heroics, just a line drawn on the lawn.

We're not set up for a year of a survivalist's wet dream. We're just ready for an extended streak of unpleasantness or really bad weather.

If it starts looking like Thunderdome out there, then we're just too damned old and out of shape to battle Mad Max for the last dinner rat. We're not interested in that kind of hard scrabble survival anyway.

We're just home loving folks who are trying to get by without trampling on the neighbors. And we're pretty adamant about having the favor returned.

I figure we have something to offer when the 3 days of supermarket food goes away with the regular truck shipments. We're ready to help feed the neighbors if they can bring in some potatoes, onions, carrots, tomatoes, turnips, rice, oatmeal, corn meal, barley or even some meaty stuff. Since they're mostly eating frozen or dehydrated stuff right now, I know we have skills that only relics of the hippie era possess.

Just don't start swiping our stuff without putting something back in the pot. I'll feed your face if you help protect the neighborhood. Seems like a fair deal. And if you can bring in some mystery meat once in awhile, that would be good too. Stew is very forgiving.

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 16:24 | 918370 New_Meat
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Stone soup ;-)

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 18:34 | 918698 Founders Keeper
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[Don't be stoppin' by pretending you're the mailman.]---Dr. Sandi

No, ma'am, I won't be. (Hat tip)

Guess we won't be seeing you at Camp FEMA.

Caution on the "mystery meat." Don't accept it unless you can identify the animal(?).

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 15:47 | 918246 Dr. Sandi
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There are ~250 million guns owned by private citizens in the US. The average gun owner owns 4 guns.

So I get that there are 62.5 million people with one gun for each of their limbs. Does that mean there are 249.5 million targets wandering around the country?

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:36 | 917732 JW n FL
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Fuck Inflation!

 

Fuck the FED!!

 

FREE EGYPT!!!

 

If people with rocks can "Push Back", why can't "We the People" take our Country Back?!?!?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:39 | 917734 grandcru
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don`t know if already posted - mubarak plannnin exile to israel/tel aviv

 

http://aljazeera.com/news/articles/39/Mubaraks-planning-exile-to-Tel-Avi...

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:48 | 917737 Twindrives
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If the Mossad won't take him, the CIA in Langley will.  I mean like, what's another illegal immigrant to us among the thousands Obama is letting in every day.  

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:05 | 917750 JW n FL
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"what's another illegal immigrant to us among the thousands Obama is letting in every day."

*********************************************************************************

Becuase Bush was stopping them? shut the fuck up!  

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:37 | 917786 OMG
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+1000

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:35 | 917783 1223pm
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Mubarak is not illegal immigrant. He is illegal HUMAN.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 15:51 | 918263 chumbawamba
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What the American public is getting now, courtesy of the same propaganda channels that normally bring you high fructose news media, is an education in insurrection.  The TV is the classroom and the lesson plan is Revolution 101.  And if the students don't think the cops over here won't be shooting into the crowd with live bullets, their grade will be an unfortunate and automatic fail.

This is what's coming here.  It'll be our turn soon enough.  But don't think it'll be done like we're seeing on TV.  That would be facile.  You'd just be playing right into their hands.  We'll need to move right on to guerilla warfare.  Fuck this rioting in the street bullshit.  We'll be way beyond that by the time the Revolution reaches our shores.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 16:21 | 918357 Dr. Sandi
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The revolution won't be televised. But the how-to guide is already on the air.

How much blow will Charlie Sheen have to be given to keep the American Revolution, Part 2, off the screens here in Yankeeland?

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 11:49 | 917739 JW n FL
Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:05 | 917831 Cocomaan
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The revolution will be televised, regardless of what Mubarak shuts down!

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:11 | 917758 10044
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things heating up guys, watch

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 12:57 | 917816 americanspirit
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I'm watching Asia tonight - especially oil futures. You think the US can't afford an oil price shock? Try China, India, Japan and Korea. This spike could easily hit $300.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:18 | 917872 bunkermeatheadp...
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It's going to be a late night tonight indeed.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:54 | 917971 Randall Cabot
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Dude, take a Xanax, calm down-oil ain't going to $300 on speculation-if the Suez gets shut down, maybe, but not until that happens.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 14:17 | 918025 bunkermeatheadp...
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I agree that oil will not go to $300, even if the Suez gets shut down.

The real chaos would be in the European economy which is the region most heavily dependent on the Suez. 

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 22:56 | 919140 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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A large price move will signal a shutdown.  You will not hear about it before $300.  But like I said, you will know.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 13:56 | 917978 1223pm
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According to British Media, Al-Jazeera has been taken off-air in Egypt.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 14:46 | 918102 ThirdCoastSurfer
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For Allah's sake people, THERE IS NO POLICE FORCE IN EGYPT and the world leaders sit around with their thumbs up their asses.  If the UN was worth spit it would be in session right now making plans to send a Peacekeeping force before the more unstable elements of the region arrive in mass. 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 14:59 | 918143 New_Meat
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3CS-you are making an assumption that the Security Council has members who want to return to the status quo ante bellum.

O wants "change".

- Ned

[ed. captcha thingie got me]

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 15:28 | 918200 Randall Cabot
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It's too late, prison officials have been liquidated and their prisons emptied of thousands of fanatics, many of them Muslim Brotherhood bent on revenge. The Muslim Brotherhood will end up with much power and by the time it all plays out they just might be the supreme rulers of Egypt.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:07 | 918513 praps
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AJ live engish stream seems to have gone off the air at 21:02 GMT.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:16 | 918540 praps
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Back now.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:16 | 918539 franzpick
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+1000.  Blog comments that is.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:56 | 918631 New_Meat
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not yet

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:23 | 918556 franzpick
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New version of gout, the rich man's disease caused by too much rich food, red meat, and wine, spreading worldwide.  Think it's called the chauchesku virus.  Cowen, Ben-Ali, Hose-me, Ben, Timmy, Nancy and Barry all are presenting with symptoms.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:47 | 918613 CustomersMan
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    For those of you that like re-life inspired songs that actually tell a story of pain, immense suffering, injustice, genocide and still trough it all, a message of hope listen to the Song For GAZA, details below;

 

WE WILL NOT GO DOWN (Song for Gaza)
(Composed by Michael Heart)
Copyright 2009

A blinding flash of white light
Lit up the sky over Gaza tonight
People running for cover
Not knowing whether they’re dead or alive

They came with their tanks and their planes
With ravaging fiery flames
And nothing remains
Just a voice rising up in the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

Women and children alike
Murdered and massacred night after night
While the so-called leaders of countries afar
Debated on who’s wrong or right

But their powerless words were in vain
And the bombs fell down like acid rain
But through the tears and the blood and the pain
You can still hear that voice through the smoky haze

We will not go down
In the night, without a fight
You can burn up our mosques and our homes and our schools
But our spirit will never die
We will not go down
In Gaza tonight

 

...and once finished read this article at Whatreallyhappened.com on the instructions to the Israeli IDF soldiers, as they went into GAZA in Dec.,2008 - Jan., 2009, as the U.S. was waiting for O'Bama to be sworn in, and Bush ll was a lame duck (and complicit in the suffering), a synopsis below;

(What's happening in the Middle East is directly tied to what happened/is happening in GAZA)

 

*******************************************

Jan,.30 at WhatReallyHappened.com

 

 

INTERVIEW IDF : ‘OPERATION CAST LEAD’ By: My Catbird Seat
Tags:

INTERVIEW YOU WILL NOT SEE IN ZIONIST CONTROLLED AMERICAN MEDIA

They were told:
“ENTRY WOULD BE DIS-PROPORTIONATE”

The orders were to:
“CLEANSE THE NEIGHBOURHOOD”

“Every house gets a shell, that was our job…”

“We were to shell the top and shell the bottom…”

“The moment the tank hit the second shell, we see processions of the family walk out with children, with babies, with white flag on a stick….”

“We entered the city in a big hullabaloo…”

“The squadron… with a lazer marked clearly the houses that had to be shelled….”

Alex Thompson has their story…

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 17:48 | 918617 The Mummy
Mon, 01/31/2011 - 03:28 | 919543 JW n FL
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Fuck the Fed!

 

Fuck Inflation!!

 

Free Egypt!!!

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 18:19 | 918677 New_Meat
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Tyler-great job here.  thx - Ned

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 18:23 | 918684 spanish inquisition
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1001! that is all i got

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 19:38 | 918792 franzpick
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The gold and silver markets up $8 and up 38c tell me the markets are looking for a ME solution, but this popular revolution can't be papered over or jawboned away, and I'm thinking a $50 up day soon in Au would bring the reality into focus.  Just what the fiat masters don't want the civilians to see.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 20:09 | 918827 Reese Bobby
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Non-main-stream-media reports the military and CSF have agreed to work together.  That's why Elbaradei & MBH have announced an alliance.

Whichever side can control labor will win the day.  Protesting/rioting in the streets is a side-show.  Poland broke free of the Commies via union solidarity.  Might be tough to pull off in Egypt where having a job is a neat trick.

At least that's my take on things...

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 20:22 | 918844 rubearish10
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I thought there'd be some signs of more violent/radical presence given the strategic and tactical relevance of Egypt. Perhaps there's insufficient organizational leadership which I suppose is encouraging for the world populous.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 20:18 | 918840 rubearish10
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Well, WTI is up $1.50, PM's up a little, SPU's down a touch and USD mixed. More in line for a traditional melt-up than comparable to any real issues in ME or anywhere else for that matter. Since no major catastrophic events in Egypt other than a few youngsters running around looting and screaming makes no difference for what i'd call just another Sunday pre-market. Otherwise known as ,,,,uneventful. How disappointing. For a moment last Friday, there was a shot at some interesting and tradable stuff.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 20:42 | 918876 melvynny
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After Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, and Jordan,  what's next?  Saudi Arabia will be in play within 10 years--the US better get off its ME oil addiction.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 21:07 | 918954 rwe2late
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The overthrow of the Egyptian dictatorship (Mubarak or Suleiman et al) will not come easily or soon.

The Obama administra­tion has told Mubarak not to step down.
Israel wants Mubarak to stay, and to crack down, and opposes ElBaradei.

The Obama administra­tion has stated they intend to continue military aid (as they have been doing for 30 years). The security forces will remain loyal to their paymaster.

The Obama administra­tion has told the protesters to allow Mubarak to oversee the fake transition­. He will only approve his henchman for office.

Journalist­s and foreign observers are being ousted, and the media blacked out.
The police are returning, and the military is being concentrat­ed.

There will soon be a one-sided bloodbath, either on the streets,
or, if the protests fade, in the prisons after the mass arrests of "trouble-m­akers".

The playbook is closer to Indonesia 1965.

The empire will make a stand in Egypt. There is the Suez Canal, and the huge Levant Basin gas reserve at stake.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 21:58 | 919032 New_Meat
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are we too late?  You betcha'

but:

"The Obama administra­tion has told Mubarak not to step down."

Au contraire, mon ami.  Hillary and the community organizers have sanctioned the transitions.  O will fall in on the winning side: right now, he's voting "present."

- Ned

 

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 09:48 | 919893 rwe2late
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Mubarak’s government is “stable” and cutting aid is not under consideration - HR Clinton

Should Mubarak step down? -interviewer

“No…Mubarak has been an ally of ours in a number of things. And he’s been very responsible . … I would not refer to him as a dictator” - Biden

“…protesters should also refrain from violence and express themselves peacefully” -HRClinton

“…the people on the streets have to be careful about not resorting to violence” - Obama 1-27-2011

 The US may be willing to dump Mubarak, but only if the US-dependent military retains power under another front man (like Suleiman).

 

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 22:09 | 919049 Bastiat
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Big Question:  will the Egyptian army slaughter civilians like the Israelis slaughtered Palestinians?  If so, the whole Arab world will light up.  It's a razor's edge for the government and military.

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 02:22 | 919493 CustomersMan
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     The answer is no. Any troops that fire on civilians will be recorded by the protesters and marked for reprisal. They will capture enough of the police/offenders in order to interrogate and get the answer's to who fired on the populace.

 

     They should think twice about who might win this encounter before firing at people. They may wind up on the wrong side. Deadly repercussions.

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