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Following Core Meltdown, Reactor One At Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant Explodes - Video
Following a report earlier that the Uranium at the Fukushima Power Plant may have melted, we sadly bring you this video of the explosion at Reactor one of the nuclear site.
A before and after picture, showing the loss of Reactor 1
From BBC:
There has been an explosion at a Japanese nuclear power plant that was hit by Friday's devastating earthquake.
Pictures show a blast at the Fukushima plant and initial reports say several workers were injured.
Nuclear expert, Malcolm Grimston told the BBC that nuclear materials may have been able to escape .
And as predicted by Zero Hedge first yesterday, the power plant has just announced that there is indeed a meltdown at the plant.
The core at Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant's No. 1 reactor may be partially melting, the nuclear safety agency said Saturday.
Radioactive substance cesium was detected around the reactor, it said.
Alas, as many may be affected by fallout, we present the wind data for Asia for Saturday:
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Thanks for the correction. I did mis-remember.
However, I just watched a launch of the Delta IV with 2 (??? or 3 ???) hydrogen-oxygen engines, and it had plenty of flames spewing out too... though perhaps somewhat less than the Saturn V rockets.
So my point about burning hydrogen + oxygen is correct... and is even more correct (slightly) when hydrogen and atmosphere burn, since the atmosphere contains other "junk" (particulates, pollutants, etc).
I also believe in first-hand observation, and I have burned pure hydrogen. That's the best proof of all for me.
The Space Shuttle used Liquid Hydrogen/LOX. You can always see the three blue cones when ignition commenced.
An informed poster wrote:
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"Clearly you've never watched a Saturn V rocket take off.
Because the fuel for those rockets is pure hydrogen and pure oxygen."
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Right.
For the 2nd and 3rd stages.
Per Wiki:
The Saturn V consisted of three stages—the S-IC first stage, S-II second stage and the S-IVB third stage—and the instrument unit.
All three stages used liquid oxygen (LOX) as an oxidizer.
The first stage used RP-1 for fuel, while the second and third stages used liquid hydrogen (LH2).
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Thanks for the correction. I did mis-remember.
However, I just watched a launch of the Delta IV with 2 (??? or 3 ???) hydrogen-oxygen engines, and it had plenty of flames spewing out too... though perhaps somewhat less than the Saturn V rockets.
So my point about burning hydrogen + oxygen is correct... and is even more correct (slightly) when hydrogen and atmosphere burn, since the atmosphere contains other "junk" (particulates, pollutants, etc).
I also believe in first-hand observation, and I have burned pure hydrogen. That's the best proof of all for me.
"However, I just watched a launch of the Delta IV with 2 (??? or 3 ???) hydrogen-oxygen engines, and it had plenty of flames spewing out too."
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Hellfire man!
You were witnessing some RATHER strong 'flames' from that rocket launch, with high temps to match ... the trace impurities (other trace gases) alone in a situation like that would 'create visable light' that one would see!
I would quit generalaizaing 'science' too, based on one-time events I anecdotally recall; while obervations play an importrant part, one has to be careful in attributing cause and effect, and any other elements that might enter into the experiment ...
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I know better than to consider the flames coming out while the damn rocket is on the pad, or in the few seconds after liftoff. The freaking flames were visible for a minute or more and only became difficult to see when the freaking rocket was dozens if not hundreds of miles down range. Sure it is difficult to see anything but the bright white-hot glow of the innards of the engines.
Man, people cannot even admit things that are blatantly obvious to their own eyes. Freaking hellfire yourself.
I have burned hydrogen in a chemistry lab as well. It didn't take very long, and there was no visible flame. Sort of an uncontrolled experiment. The florence flask containing it was reduced to sand, approximately -- just the little round flat area from its bottom remained sitting on the lab bench.
What you see in shuttle launches is flames from the solid fuel booster rockets. The hydrogen flames coming out of the tail of the shuttle itself, are remarkably transparent for such a big fire.
Watch a shuttle liftoff. The flame coming out of the shuttle's three engines is just about transparent. The solid boosters make a colored flame of course, and both leave vapor behind them.
Hydrogen flames emit almost no visible light.
Clearly you've never watched a Saturn V rocket take off.
Because the fuel for those rockets is pure hydrogen and pure oxygen. But just take a look at the tail end of one of those rockets when they take off. You see nothing? Wow!
I've burned hydrogen before, in chemistry lab. And I can assure you, I most certainly did see flames!
Maybe if you burn hydrogen very, very slowly in tiny little quantities you might be correct. But that certainly was not a teenie, tiny explosion we saw.
The Gummint knows that taxpayers expect to see flames when they burn such a huge amount of money.
The Saturn V engines contain ports through which they drop M&Ms which combust in the otherwise invisible exhaust stream. They could go purple if they wanted to but the Gummint thinks orange is the best money burning colour. Benron does it without the M&Ms so you cannot really see what is happening with the Fed.
That was explosion so all hydrogen burned atonce, Saturn is diffferent because you constantly deliver massive amounts of hydrogen. I'm not rocket scientist and don't really know what fuel for them consists of. If you say it's pure hydrogen I believe you. I just had once experience with burning hydrogen at semiconductor facility.
Sir,
The Saturn V First Stage that you refer to is RP-1 / LOX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-1_%28rocket_engine%29
LOX is Liquid Oxygen and RP-1 is a form of kerosene.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP-1
It is NOT hydrogen. There is NO hydrogen.
You need to stop saying things that are just completely wrong.
This is a serious discussion of a serious matter and falsity is not appreciated, although shills and trolls just love wrecking straightforward conversation with it.
And you could have made an honest mistake. :)
Thanks for the correction. I did mis-remember.
However, I just watched a launch of the Delta IV with 2 hydrogen-oxygen engines, and it had plenty of flames spewing out too... though perhaps somewhat less than the Saturn V rockets.
So my point about burning hydrogen + oxygen is correct... and is even more correct (slightly) when hydrogen and atmosphere burn, since the atmosphere contains other "junk" (particulates, pollutants, etc).
I also believe in first-hand observation, and I have burned pure hydrogen. That's the best proof of all for me.
With all due respect the Delta IV has strap on solids that produce huge amounts of exhaust during lift off. Once the vehicle reaches a certain altitude, the solids are jettisoned and the exhaust from the main engine becomes invisble, save for a little condensation from the heat.
DaddyO
@daddy O
I accept that hydrogen has a very clean burn and if it reacts with oxygen for a tiny moment in time its plasma will disappear quickly.
However if you look at the supplied footage of the Delta IV heavy - as you should know being a rocket engineer only operates with 3 core hydrogen / oxygen engines.
The single core Delta IV can and does work with GEM- 60 solids but that is not the rocket illustrated.
Anyhow the sheer volume and flow of liquids going into those engines perhaps make it a bad example as they were even bigger then the SMEs
I seriously doubt your claimed rocket man credentials.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Ajho60XPI
With all due respect to my credentials, I worked at KSC from 1982 to 1995 for several different contractors, USBI, Boeing and I-Net. I have experience on both the flight side of the house and the test side.
The footage you referenced was indeed the heavy and during early ascent all manner of other things are being consumed hence the smoke seen during liftoff. Hyrogen and oxygen give off vapor that is mostly condensation that is cooling in the contrail. Right at the point of ignition, the visible flames are blueish white and begin to take on a reddish hue further down the exhaust stream. SSME ignition can be seen in this video showing the blue white to red exhaust colors.
I stand by my comments about the blast at Fukushima as being from H/Ox combination.
DaddyO
Fair enough - it may indeed be a chemical reaction rather then steam pressure.
Either way its bad shit.
Sorry for being a Dork but its in my nature DaddyO
Thank goodness someone knew the difference between a Saturn engine burn of RP-1 and LOX and a hydrogen burn/ignition. Liquid hydrogen and LOX fuel the Space shuttle and burn nearly invisible. If you will look at shuttle lauch footage, you will clearly see that the main engines produce little if any exhaust.
The impulse you see in the containment building blast is in my opinion, a hydrogen blast impulse generated from the hydrogen/oxygen mixture reaching combustion mixture ratio sufficient to produce the explosion in the video.
I spent years working on the shuttle program and have flowed thousands of gallons of liquid hydrogen during testing of the SSME's on the shuttle. We used to flow hydrogen and GOX into the burn pond near the launch pad and burn it off. Very hot and very invisible.
News reports are indicating that gas from the reactor containment vessel was being vented to relieve pressure, appearantly the ratio of H/ox in the buiding reached the proper levels to explode. The video is proof positive of that. Whether the reator containment vessel breached is another topic for discussion once the authorities are able to look into the destroyed building.
DaddyO
How can a plasma not emit light - have you ever seen the Hindenburg ?
Its a invisible gas but plasma by its very nature emits light.
Jesus science education in America is worse then I suspected.
Yes education in america is abhorrant. What you saw burning on the hindenburg was the fuselage, not the H2, but nevermind that, you're much smarter than everyone else.
So when liquid oxygen is exposed to liquid Hydrogen there is no light !!!!!!!!!!
Here is a all liquid oxygen / hydrogen rocket launch - the delta IV heavy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB5_j1RYMYg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_IV#Vehicle_description
The emission "seen" in the youtube video posted by Dork shows the red emission from Hydrogen. That is not to say it is the predominant emission, the blue lines and the red lines are all we "can" see.
Thanks for the link... especially since it shows plenty bright flames shooting out of all 3 boosters. Initial descriptions I found said the outer 2 boosters are liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, and the central booster is solid fuel.
However, that doesn't make much sense because their flames look pretty identical to me. That plus I thought I heard the guy say they throttled back the central booster near the end of the video, which is only possible with liquid boosters as far as I know.
The flames are somewhat less intense than Saturn V boosters, but they are certainly quite visible. So if anything that's proof that hydrogen + oxygen combustion generates visible light. Which I knew anyway, since I've burned hydrogen myself.
Let's be clear: Hydrogen emits at frequencies from 656nm to 410nm in the human visible range (400 - 700nm).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI50GBUJ48s
I would say that the vast amount of energy emitted from the Hindenberg was hydrogen and that a small amount was infrastructure.
656nm would be red, 410nm would be blue, so what was the "color" of the Hindenburg fire?
Was it yellow? If so did the camera capture the flame as it was or as it was capable of seeing?
There are many questions and if there was a radiometer on site we might actually obtain answers.
I watched the explosion again and it does seem to emit a faint yellow light - so maybe the explosion was a result of a chemical reaction rather then steam pressure.
Or maybe both.
Uhhh, this American understands that much of the light spectrum isn't visible. Especially, you know, the UV spectrum where hydrogen plasma emits light.
Plasma emits light according the the properties of the molecules being excited.
The light you saw from the Hindenburg was from the carbonaceous material burning, not the hydrogen. Same thing here. It clearly wasn't JUST hydrogen burning.
Of course, I didn't learn any of this in school.
Poor, dumb, government educated people.
All chemical reactions such as the above occur at temperatures where infra - red and visable light is predominant.
Chemical reactions do have enough oomph to generate much UV or X rays.
You don't know much about spectroscopy, clearly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UV_spectroscopy
How does I excite electron from ground state?
So when I light a coal fire and stare at its flames I will get a suntan from the UV created !!!!
Come on, I have occasionally seen a blue flame when I stoke a fire but only rarely - most of the energy is in infra red and visable light.
You can create a plasma in lets say a typical UV light which operates at higher temperatures then a typical chemical fire but there is no reaction with other elements - the gas is just excited by energy to a high state
Hey, tmos:
I know you were following the PIMCO dump on Treasuries - was interested in getting your take on how this event potentially effects that decision? The timing of it (the day before this event) I find a little curious...
I respect your opinion and I'm not that smart, is why I'm asking you.
Outer covering of the Hindenberg was made of cloth (linen?) painted with red oxide primer then a silver paint containing aluminum powder . They did not realize it at the time but it was the next thing to Thermite, a highly flammable substance.
After the fire they came up with a revises formula containing bronze powder that was much safer or at least, less likely to explode.
Plasma - Hindenburg?
What do you think the 'products' in combustion are and what the process involving a flame (burning in air) are?
Is it plasma? If you try to study that problem you'll see that opinion about that are split. There are some ionized gases in flames but is it enough to qualify it as plasma? What about electrical properties of flames are they the same as plasma?
Is it plasma?
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Yes, it is ... and yes, they have the same properties (e.g. electrically conductive for one)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame
Flame or plasma speakers (modulate a flame with an audio signal):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_speaker
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Is it too bold to blame public e...oh never mind ;-)
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/current-affairs/as-japans-n-reactor-exp...
Has a pretty good image of the 'flames' too.
Credibility weakens significantly when the source uses imagery such as is present in this article:
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/current-affairs/horror-continuesjapan-r...
A thermal image of the site at the time of the event would tell more about the componets , as pure Hydrogen burns with little flame but its heat signature is present even when the visible flames are less noticeable.
Map of two evacuations zones (Fukushima No. 1 and No. 2 nuclear power plants).
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_54.html
Just watched Al jazeera and a respected nuclear analyst said that he thinks the inner pressure vessel has blown exposing its elements.
Although he said he cannot be sure.
Lets hope its just the containment structure that has been destroyed.
Not good not good at all - that means all 6 of those plants are unworkable - lets hope spring comes soon for the Japs.
Maybe they need a new force of Kamikaze pilots who will dump some sand on this disaster.
Not good at all.
Looks like an implosion folks. Check night fall video for glowing. Otherwise theyll fly in a dome
Maybe it is too soon to start beating this drum, but this is an example of the politicalization of science.
In fact, there is no science any more, at least in anything that is funded by government or large corporations. The scientists are there simply to provide rationalizations and prestige to whatever the predators-that-be wish to claim.
Any one single real scientist with no boss to tell him what to claim would immediately add 2 + 2 and get 4.
#1: Japan gets many large earthquakes.
#2: Large nearby earthquakes cause large tsunamis.
#3: If you put [cooling or electrical or other] equipment on a coastline, that equipment is guaranteed to stop working when 50 trillion gallons of tsunami water shoves it's way in.
#4: Therefore, you cannot build safe nuclear power plants in such locations unless the entire facility is raised 40 to 50 meters about the ground (highest conceivable tsunami). But even then you create other large risks such as tsunamis pushing huge ships into the structure holding everything 50 meters above ground.
As a scientist, I can assure everyone that just about any real scientist... or any honest, rational non-scientist... assigned the task of approving designs like this would immediately veto the plans. Yet every reactor in Japan appears to be on or near the coast from maps I've seen. And many reactors worldwide were built in absurd locations.
Every time I've taken a contract that has government connections, I've seen the science being massively corrupted. Any scientist who doesn't support the pre-conceived agenda of the predators-that-be is read the riot act. If that doesn't work, they are edged out or transferred elsewhere. If that doesn't work they're fired and subjected to character and career assassination.
Never trust "science" (or anything else) from government or large corporations. It is almost all agenda driven lies. And not only in the USSA.
+1000 global warmings, collings, whatever.
Certainly I also found amazing that in such an earthquake-prone (and therefore tsunami-prone) area, nuclear plants have been built on the coastline.
There is risk in everything - there has been 2 major nuclear accidents in a quarter of a century.
Meanwhile we has the Iran / Iraq war , the first gulf war , the second gulf war and now it seems Libya will be a major conflict which has killed millions of people.
A irrational assessment of risk is now more dangerous then risk - Germany and other countries cancelled their nuclear projects partially as a result of Chernobyl.
This increased geopolitical risk as countries became more dependent on foregin energy - Germany's dependence on Russian gas has considerably modified poltical and economic links and risks in the region.
Nothing is risk free.
I agree. Maybe you miss my point.
I am not calling for "no nuclear power". But I am saying flat out that the people involved in government and large corporations are the most massive liars in the history of the universe, with possible exception of the international ganster [central] banksters (also massive corporations).
As you can see daily, it is trivial for rich corporations to bribe governments to approve and support just about anything. And the people in government will lie even when they don't need to lie... they are terrified-of and allergic-to honesty.
I am quite confident it is possible to design safe nuclear power reactors. Just not any way it is being done today, or for the past several decades.
According to the BBC:
Tepco itself has been implicated in a series of cover-ups down the years.
In 2002, the chairman and four other executives resigned, suspected of having falsified safety records at Tepco power stations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12723092
You can design SAFER nuclear reactors but not safe reactors.
The concept of risk assessment should be part of every scientific curriculum for teenagers and above.
This is at the core of effective governance
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You put forth a rational case without histrionics - watch that you don't get burned as a witch.
Building more nukes, increases the odds that a disaster will heppen.
Would it be worth it to have a Chernobyl Meltdown somewhere in the world every 5=20 years, as a side effect of reducing dependance on fossil fuels?
That would be a way to improve the technology. How do you define "worth it"? By the number of humans that die from lack of sufficient energy supplies vs. the number that die from the consequences of energy production? Or by the numbers of USDs that are created with each scenario?
With the caveat that not all nuclear energy is the same:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-heres-how-we-get-energy-inde...
Cooter
So what?
The reactors (FPL) in Florida are on the water as well. They use the sea water (marshes) to let the water that exits the plant cool, then pump it back in.
no Tsunami risk in FL. Hurricanes give ample warning for safe shutdown, even the oil spill, which posed a risk to the plants all along the Gulf, was a slow moving danger - not like an earthquake/tsunami where they potentially have less than minutes to react.
Good point on the lack of warning....its hard to sift through the bullshit the last 24 hours but one account yesterday described movement of the subsea floor from the quake measured in meters. The epicenter was 140 miles offshore. At that distance, the first warning of tsunami is probably someone looking out the window and yelling 'OH SHIT!'
I understand that Dr. Robert Stadler was head of the Japanese Science Institute. He clearly stated that the JSI would free science from the rule of the doll....yen.
@honestann
Thank you...
If Japans nuclear plants experience meltdown, it will send oil price up immediately, as nuclear alternative will look less problem free.
Here are scenarious for oil and DJIA I charted on february 6th, so far they look good:
http://saposjoint.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2626&start=0
http://saposjoint.net/Forum/download/file.php?id=2609
http://saposjoint.net/Forum/download/file.php?id=2608
I did not expect nuclear power problems to compound on supply problems from revolutions, but, the curves does not depend on causes, they are systemic, the causes provide themselves readily, as we have seen so far.
The curves are the cumulative result of all unpredictable causes, but the curves themselves are predictable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8375497/Japan-earth...
A huge fire has broken out at an oil refinery in Ichihara following an earthquake in JapanYou didn't factor QE(x) into your predictions.
I did. QE x will not come or will not have the desired effect to devaluate USD.
Wormwood
It's strange that no more images have been shown from the plant. It is already night there, so all daylight images are hours old. I guess that is not good, though no images doesn't necessarily mean catastrophe (beyond what we've already seen, of course)
Another 6.0 quake just hit Fukushima.
Two in a row. This a 6.4:
MAG UTC DATE-TIMEy/m/d h:m:s LAT
deg LON
deg DEPTH
km Region MAP 6.4 2011/03/12 13:15:42 37.261 141.175 37.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Quote of the day : And I thought it was our shared orgasm honey...
DOW 14050 here we come.
"Something doesn't sound right about this. Japanese engineering skills are superb. They're usually right on top of things like this. "
"Everybody has a plan until they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Not only that, the whole nuke project is clearly an ongoing game of Russian Roulette.
Played by the french...
"Everybody has a plan until they get hit." -Mike Tyson
(Ain't that the truth)
+1
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he should know he got so punch drunk on it..
Has Dick Cheney given the order to stand down and let the facility blow yet?
HAVE YOU HEARD ANY ORDER TO THE CONTRARY!?!?!??
<...Stay away from fools, for you won't find knowledge there. The wise look ahead to see what is coming, but fools deceive themselves...> http://www.entendance.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=668&p=15976#p15976
" NEW YORK, New York, April 26, 2010 (ENS) - Nearly one million people around the world died from exposure to radiation released by the 1986 nuclear disaster at the Chernobyl reactor, finds a new book from the New York Academy of Sciences published today on the 24th anniversary of the meltdown at the Soviet facility.
The book, "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment," was compiled by authors Alexey Yablokov of the Center for Russian Environmental Policy in Moscow, and Vassily Nesterenko and Alexey Nesterenko of the Institute of Radiation Safety, in Minsk, Belarus.
The authors examined more than 5,000 published articles and studies, most written in Slavic languages and never before available in English.
www.ens-newswire.com
My aunt dies last year from terminal bone cancer. She was in Russia when Chernobyl melted and was exposed. So 1,000,001.
how old was she?
Exactly.
HAARP-induced Earthquake + planned energy/environmental disaster = Elitist problem-reaction-solution
add in "Planet-X" and solar flares and flipping the magnetic poles. Must be coming; I heard it on the radio. - Ned
And 'Super Moon'...
'Civilization' (on Earth) is so fragile..
Had heard all of that on the MSM, I would not have believed it. But.....
ManOfBliss
on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 08:46
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HAARP-induced Earthquake + planned energy/environmental disaster = Elitist problem-reaction-solution
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H.A.A.R.P. my ass ... (That's the sure mark of a loon.)
"Conspriracy theories are the tool of the weak-minded." - Vic LaRoca
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Hmmm ... maybe this should be revised:
"Conspriracy theories are not, repeat not the tool of the weak-minded."
I don't think so though.
I've been seeing many h a arp related comments on the various blogs regarding this event. I can't say that it's not plausible.
In typica, government fashion ( i.e. not telling people the truth ) they are now giving out potassium iodine - that says it all !
SSKI may be used in radioiodine-contamination emergencies (i.e., nuclear accidents) to "block" the thyroid's uptake of radioiodine (this is not the same as blocking the thyroid's release of thyroid hormone). The dose is smaller: 130 mg KI per day (100 mg iodide) which represents 2 drops of SSKI solution per day, for an adult.
Following the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in April, 1986, a saturated solution of potassium iodide (SSKI) was administered to 10.5 million children and 7 million adults in Poland[21] as a prophylactic measure against accumulation of radioactive iodine-131 in the thyroid gland. People in the areas immediately surrounding Chernobyl itself, however, were not given the supplement.[22]
Potassium iodide was also approved in 1982 by the US FDA to protect the thyroid glands from radioactive iodine from accidents or fission emergencies. In the event of an accident or attack at a nuclear power plant, or fallout from a nuclear bomb, volatile fission product radionuclides may be released, of which 131I is one of the most common by-products and a particularly dangerous one due to thyroid gland concentration of it, which may lead to thyroid cancer. By saturating the body with a source of stable iodide prior to exposure, inhaled or ingested 131I tends to be excreted.
The Swedish manufacturing facility for Thyrosafe, a potassium iodide tablet for thyroid protection from radiation manufactured by Recipharm AB, was mentioned on the secret US 2008 Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative leaked by Wikileaks in 2010.[23]
Potassium iodide cannot protect against any other causes of radiation poisoning, nor can it provide any degree of protection against dirty bombs that produce radionuclides other than isotopes of iodine.
Fukushima soon to be Fuk US
Japanese government announces they are handing out Iodine. You would think that standard operating procedure in a nuclear country would be advising people to stockpile iodine in the areas surrounding plants years ahead of time.
How many US citizens living beside a reactor have iodine stocked in their homes? Hollywood has conditioned us with its propaganda machine to believe all of these common sense things would exist. Look at what porn has done to the social fabric. Look at how young people aspire to the fiction that is presented to them on the idiot box and now handheld devices.
We're also finding out that US military supremacy is in fact a Hollywood fiction. Our weapons are still no match for herdsmen riding camels in Afghanistan.
What is more ominous is that the general population is waking up to the fact that much that we believe is a fiction in our heads... this is a dangerous wake up call with consequences...
Apocalypse means unveiling. The veil is being lifted everywhere and at once.
Our rules of engagement and the effed up UN-ified mission are to blame for the clusterfark that is Afghanistan nine years on. The initial mission there only took a few months and was very effective. That was a military mission back then. The destruction of Saddam's armies was a similar tour de force.
dammit. i was afraid of this when i saw the problems yest morning. it does not appear to have been a nuclear explosion, but the environ-mental degradation will be huge. hopefully the other 5 reactors at the site are not further damaged. while the big dog capitalists are flying off to the safety and luxury of majorca, the best citizens will never even pause at the door of the heroic, just shrug their worthy shoulders, declare it a good day to die for their people, and enter the light and the darkness.
nuclear "energy" is always "perfectly safe" until there is an "act of God", or a human error or crime, all three of which happen ALL THE FUKING TIME. everywhere.
as japanese tears streak these aging cheeks, one word is left: amen.
Could they spare just 1 of those tears for that horrific Dolphin slaughter they enjoy so much?
The official statement of the japanese about the explosion so far is that it was just a steam explosion of coolant, whereby no radioactivity leaked.
The core casing is still intact.
" ... just a steam explosion ..."
So, the over-pressure thingamjig pops on the top of my pressure cooker blows (b/c it got too hot, built up to much pressure etc etc etc) ... but, not to worry, everything is okay - no radioac -er- 'beans' escaped through said over-pressure safety valve (as any and all water still present instantly vaporized, forming VAPOR) along with said vapor ....
I feel safe.
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I doubt reactor vessel is still intact. If it is, the steam release would have been like a pressure safety valve going off, a controlled release, not a massive explosion destroyng the containment building.
My guess reactor vessel itself blew up, blowing uranium fuel everywhere, massive radiation, whole area will be uninhabitable for a thousand years, meaning all 5 reactors will have to be shut down, entire facility terminated.
But it's just speculation, we'll have to wait and see.
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. That shock wave blowing straight up most likely was the lid of the containment vessel going super-sonic, additionally, it appears that the entire building structure was blown to smithereens.
Meanwhile not a single fucking "news" network in the US covering this story.
ipad 2 is out.
THIS is pissing me off no end. Flipping around news channels, they are covering the Tsunami, but not this.
Journalism in the mainstream is a useless dead Zombie. Guess I need to get over it.
McNews. Franchised. Processed. Predigested. Prepackaged. Delievered directly to your home. No need to look anywhere else. If you deliver news off the script, you lose your Franchise.
I find RT usually has a different take on events. Plus no POS commercials for Big Pharma drugs with side affects like DEATH to sit thru.
Twitter rules...!!
Sky is saying that one small town has 10’000 unaccounted for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjorLr5MUvc
I would have thought people would have thought better than to have built such dangerous objects on massive fault lines and you would have thought that the Japanese of all people would be wary of such dangerous substances
What the banks now are to the US Congress, the construction industry was to the LDP in Japan from the mid 1950's until the late 1990's. Massive "donations".
The FED will just print up some funny money and give it to them. I mean it is on our tab, isn't it? Its all good.
"The level of safety and control they have rival's the economic control systems in the US."
---- Now you've really scared thr hell out of us.
Ha ha ha..
Yup..
What an awful Pickle you've got us into Ollie!
A lot of miners die ripping out coal.
Oil is not without dangers, just ask the oil spill people.
Time to say a little prayer.
Maybe even be nice to a liberal, well, on second thought, nah.
even a prayer from a shitheaded asswipe like you is better late, than never.
This event has for all intents and purposes single handedly destroyed one of the world's biggest economic power houses, for the foreseeable future. I wonder what this really means to the world financial system , being the state that it now finds itself?
At this juncture, no one really knows if HAARP did this or not, but one thing is for sure. In my honest opinion, this is very good news for the new world order crowd. Remember, problem, reaction, sollution.........I am not sure how, at this point, but I figure its like Mayor Emanuel, former adviser to President Obama and now Mayor of Chicago, has stated, never let a good crisis go to waste.......
At this juncture, no one really knows if HAARP did this or ...
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Shit.
HAARP is powered by like six on-site diesel generators ... NO TIE-IN with a real power plant even, yet, THE END OF THE WORLD CAN BE INVOKED BY HAARP.
Can you please state the principle upon which this is EOTW via HAARP is premised?
(It seems to be an 'article of faith' among the conspiracy-types.)
"Conspriracy theories are the tools of the weak-minded." - Vic LaRoca
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“If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you'd have the key to the universe" -Nikola Tesla?
arrêt de délirer povre tache.
shoe bomber :o
Are you really going to wait for the government to hand out Iodine? Stockpile it for yourself, it is fairly cheap. Get a Nuke Alert too. www.ki4u.com Just a satisfied customer.
Nature is bringing catastrophes in ever higher frequencies. Despite my skepticism, I'm really starting to think that the end is near for most of mankind, not in a gradual way, but in an exponential one.
Well they want to get rid of 5/6 of the world population since they are considered unnecessary and useless eaters.
We have a volunteer!
Ohh YA ! welcome back! You made my horizon.
Most Americans are useless since they wouldn't want to work for Foxconn.
Wow, the Japs read Zero Hedge.
I posted this 50 minutes ago,
"Why didn't the have a petrol generator, a pump, and a piece of pipe ready to dangle into the sea, or am I being a bit simplistic."
....and just heard this from the BBC. "The authorities are considering pumping sea water to cool the reactor."
Clever people, those Japs.
when i read you first post, it reminded me of a thought i'd had yest: if we can use C-118's & C-130's to scoop and drop water on forest fires...???
then i realized i had a mickey D coupon for free outmeal which would soon expire, and, being hungry...
They did that for Chernobyl.
Almost everyone involved died from acute radiation poisoning.
They'll do that for this plant too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw-ik1U4Uvk
Sorry, but not true..
At Chernoybl they dropped concrete...
LOTS of it..Read the book..
And yes, most gave their lives in the endeavor..
NOW you know whey they built so close to the seashore/ocean ...
mild /sarc
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Hopefully life will not be lost here. This is the last thing we need right now. And Japan, a country of such good people. No one deserves this, no one.
+1
Well, there is Washington, DC.
Wall Street.
That's what disturbs me most about this...if it happened to DC, lower Manhattan, Chicago and SF, I would concede karma is a bitch and admit that the world was probably a better place for it. I do not feel that way about Japan; just a huge sense of loss.
BBC saying that food stocks are very low in Tokyo.
Dai mondai.
Is this clown on FoxNews for real? potasium/iodide. (sp) what a clueless idiot. Radiation will smoke you. Dig a deep hole. These reactors are going to burn. The collant supply is cut off after that blast. They were linked. Fallout will happen for weeks. West coast USA will get in 2 days.
what can we do, YC? i'll be near the ggatebr next week; what are your plans? i wuz thinking we could just meet on the bridge and decide what to do, from there. maybe mini-chute down to an outbound cargo ship full of empties and just take "pot luck". speaking of which, you bring the stash; i'm out. again. weed, evoo, and paper towels. i just can't keep 'em in the house! but wait! we'd be sailing right into the radiation clouds. still, if we could jump, on bikes, the mary poppins thingy would be fabulous!
fuk it! too showy! i'm gonna try Plan B: go arould to every dentist in town to whom i owe green stamps, which is plenty, and beg, borrow, or steal lead aprons. i shall then build a small pyramid or "t.p." as the great cornholio might say, over my ca king bed, which is in the living room b/c the bedroom is too small, and a bit cluttered, also, right now. then, hunker down w/ balzac, frithjof schuon [Schuon Case News File], and some undigested Holy Writ...and maybe a young hooker or two, if they can think straight and know what is truly good for them...
ferget the tinfoil, BiCHeZ, it's time to accoutre one's self in lead.
timfoil?
There is no oversight. Huge corporations OWN the souls of our policy makers. My heart is aching for the people of Japan.
yes, we ache.
let's try to keep our ears up, tho, 'k?
human souls are...human souls; even the lone ranger wears a mask...YouTube - THIS MASQUERADE / LEON RUSSELL
by gall batter on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 09:16 #1044063
There is no oversight. Huge corporations OWN the souls of our policy makers. My heart is aching for the people of Japan.
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Were you in the capitol dome in Wisconsin this week; tambourine in hand, repeating that same mantra? ... thought I recognized you ... .
On a sympathetic note, my heart aches for the people of Japan too, a few whom I have known. .
Bye Bye Kitty
Rally, wrong , arrests to follow and insurance companies who dont want to pay will seek a fall guy. These plants are supposed to be earthquake and atomic bomb proof, yeh right. I pray the containment held and guess what , the other 14 or so plants will have to be secured and checked and rechecked and the after shocks continue. At least 125 of them so far. Not good, Japan is handing out Iodine to people. Not good.
Ok i'm watching tis looser from Fox News real time. The Yellow stone/longvally caldera. You are an idiot. Live life and deal with it you pussy.
I'm crusing @ 42.5. It's bumpy flying over the south pacific. We are chasing the sun.
Jet stream patterns, Northern hemisphere. Notice the stream directly over Northern Japan and how it is picked up and carried over the Pacific at +150 kts, then slowed to disperse over the West coast.
http://squall.sfsu.edu/scripts/nhemjetstream_model.html
Set it for 4 days, 6 hr intervals and press build animation. (NB This is not forecast, but real time data during the past 4 days)